On Aug 22, 12:16 pm, Glenn <gamccl...@spiritone.com> wrote:

About Predictions and Prophecies for 2012

First, The world will not end in (or before) 2012, and there
is no Biblical Prophecy which points to the Lord's return
before approximately 2014.

Isn't it wonderful how the Futurists tell us that Jesus
never said when he would return and yet, tell us it
must be around such and such time.

How do you spell Futurist? "H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E"

On Aug 22, 4:52 pm, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:16:07 -0700, Glenn <gamccl...@spiritone.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.

About Predictions and Prophecies for 2012
First, The world will not end in (or before) 2012, and there is no
Biblical Prophecy which points to the Lord's return before approximately
2014. In fact, there is a seven year sequence of prophetic events which
has not yet begun and therefore can not and will not conclude before 2014.

Setting ANY timetables OR dates is not scriptural.

And if you are doing it (YOU ARE), then you are out of step.

john w

I did not write this post to explain what will happen, but rather to
identify some predictions will NOT happen.
The following is found athttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012
Or google for "2012"http://tinyurl.com/3xyeaq
Quote:
2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation
(or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the
thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which
occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there
will be a major change in world order.
1. Polar Shift is a theory that on December 21st 2012 Earth will be
in line with the sun and a *Black Hole that is at the center of our
galaxy the Milky Way, All these actions may cause earths poles change
move position, or have an affect on Earth's magnetic field which might
cause the loss of Earth's atmosphere, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions or
other natural disasters.
Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing
event will take place in 2012:
2. The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with
long-period sunspot cycles.
3. The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have
been instructed in their wisdom by discarnate entities from Orion and
the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted
in accordance with the movements of planets and stars.
4. The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain
algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide
with the Earth.
5. The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural
disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the
third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise
of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the
strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural
or man caused destruction.
6. The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic
field will reverse.
7 The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray
reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and
finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth
to fit their theories.
8. The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel
Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic
connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere.
9. The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation into
Civilization's End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific new
predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by various
sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of dangerous
positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth's magnetic field,
cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, and supervolcanoes
that may be on the verge of erupting.
Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year
include:
10. Terence McKenna's mathematical novelty theory suggests a point
of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in
consciousness.
11. The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy,
speculated that Pope Benedict XVI would reign during the beginning of
the tribulation of which Jesus spoke, and sometime later a future pope
described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", the last in this
prophetic list, would appear, bringing as a result the destruction of
the city of Rome and the Last Judgment.
12. Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in
2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production and the
Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and
permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak
in oil production in or around 2012. [10] [11] [12]
13. Some alien-enthusiasts (e.g. Riley Martin), along with some
new-agers, believe 2012 to correspond approximately with the return of
alien "watchers" or "caretakers" who might have helped the first human
civilizations with developing their technology and may have been waiting
for us to reach a higher level of technological and/or social
advancement. Beliefs range from the extra-terrestrials having benevolent
purposes - such as to help human society evolve - to malevolent purposes
- such as enslavement of mankind and/or manipulation.
14. There is a Hindu following indicating the appearance of an
Avatar (God in human form) with God-like powers who will herald a new
age. A website to this effect appears at: End of the World 2012.
End quote.
=========
Some predictions which will NOT happen:
#1. There is no such thing as a "black hole," and, the alignment of
planets or other galactic or stellar objects has no effect on the earth
or events on earth.
#2, 3. The Mayan Calendar (nor any other 'calendar') has no effect on
human events.
#4, 5. There is no "Bible Code" and Nostradamus is not a prophet, and no
single, large, asteroid or comet will impact the earth.
#8, 10, 14. This may be related to Satan proclaiming himself to be
"God." However, that event will occur in the midst of Daniel's 70th week
(Seven Years) -- which sequence of events have not yet (22Aug07) begun.
#12. Actually, "Peak Oil" may have already occurred, which is why the
United States has occupied Iraq, and may lead to war with Iran. "Peak
oil" is a term, and theory, that should be investigated. A "peak" such
as a "Bell Curve" can have a fairly long (relatively speaking) 'period.'
#13. There are no "alien civilizations."
For a study of the end time sequence of events (but no 'date
predictions') see:
www.thelittlebookopened.org

Actually, I was thinking of saving his post so later I can show it to
him and have a good giggle at his expense. ;-)

john w <johnw wrote:

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:16:07 -0700, Glenn <gamcclary@spiritone.com>
wrote:

About Predictions and Prophecies for 2012


First, The world will not end in (or before) 2012, and there is no
Biblical Prophecy which points to the Lord's return before approximately
2014. In fact, there is a seven year sequence of prophetic events which
has not yet begun and therefore can not and will not conclude before 2014.

Setting ANY timetables OR dates is not scriptural.

Wrong:

On several occasions God has given prophecies containing times.

That you seem to be ignorant of these prophecies

so, that I will not offer to educate you since it is impossible to
enlighten one who's mind is closed to truth.

And if you are doing it (YOU ARE), then you are out of step.

john w

I did not write this post to explain what will happen, but rather to
identify some predictions will NOT happen.

The following is found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012
Or google for "2012" http://tinyurl.com/3xyeaq


Quote:
2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation
(or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the
thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which
occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there
will be a major change in world order.

1. Polar Shift is a theory that on December 21st 2012 Earth will be
in line with the sun and a *Black Hole that is at the center of our
galaxy the Milky Way, All these actions may cause earths poles change
move position, or have an affect on Earth's magnetic field which might
cause the loss of Earth's atmosphere, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions or
other natural disasters.

Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing
event will take place in 2012:

2. The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with
long-period sunspot cycles.
3. The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have
been instructed in their wisdom by discarnate entities from Orion and
the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted
in accordance with the movements of planets and stars.
4. The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain
algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide
with the Earth.
5. The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural
disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the
third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise
of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the
strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural
or man caused destruction.
6. The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic
field will reverse.
7 The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray
reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and
finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth
to fit their theories.
8. The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel
Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic
connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere.
9. The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation into
Civilization's End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific new
predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by various
sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of dangerous
positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth's magnetic field,
cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, and supervolcanoes
that may be on the verge of erupting.

Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year
include:

10. Terence McKenna's mathematical novelty theory suggests a point
of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in
consciousness.
11. The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy,
speculated that Pope Benedict XVI would reign during the beginning of
the tribulation of which Jesus spoke, and sometime later a future pope
described in the prophecy as "Peter the Roman", the last in this
prophetic list, would appear, bringing as a result the destruction of
the city of Rome and the Last Judgment.
12. Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in
2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production and the
Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and
permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak
in oil production in or around 2012. [10] [11] [12]
13. Some alien-enthusiasts (e.g. Riley Martin), along with some
new-agers, believe 2012 to correspond approximately with the return of
alien "watchers" or "caretakers" who might have helped the first human
civilizations with developing their technology and may have been waiting
for us to reach a higher level of technological and/or social
advancement. Beliefs range from the extra-terrestrials having benevolent
purposes — such as to help human society evolve — to malevolent purposes
— such as enslavement of mankind and/or manipulation.
14. There is a Hindu following indicating the appearance of an
Avatar (God in human form) with God-like powers who will herald a new
age. A website to this effect appears at: End of the World 2012.

End quote.
=========

Some predictions which will NOT happen:

#1. There is no such thing as a "black hole," and, the alignment of
planets or other galactic or stellar objects has no effect on the earth
or events on earth.

#2, 3. The Mayan Calendar (nor any other 'calendar') has no effect on
human events.

#4, 5. There is no "Bible Code" and Nostradamus is not a prophet, and no
single, large, asteroid or comet will impact the earth.

#8, 10, 14. This may be related to Satan proclaiming himself to be
"God." However, that event will occur in the midst of Daniel's 70th week
(Seven Years) -- which sequence of events have not yet (22Aug07) begun.

#12. Actually, "Peak Oil" may have already occurred, which is why the
United States has occupied Iraq, and may lead to war with Iran. "Peak
oil" is a term, and theory, that should be investigated. A "peak" such
as a "Bell Curve" can have a fairly long (relatively speaking) 'period.'

#13. There are no "alien civilizations."


For a study of the end time sequence of events (but no 'date
predictions') see:
www.thelittlebookopened.org



Glenn
His witness