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ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
by Carl McCaskey
On various discussion groups and computer networks there is a certain
individual many Christians are very familiar with. He
calls himself a Christian, but many of his words and actions are
definitely of an unChristian nature. He also calls himself a
"Reverend" and a "Pastor", but he never clarifies who ordained him nor
answers any questions about the validity of the titles
and upon close investigation it turns out that the titles are ones he
bestowed upon himself.
Recently, he posted one of his canned text files in defense of his
routine practice of cursing others, especially Christians
who do not follow his false teachings nor agree with his personal
doctrines that do not follow orthodoxy. I felt a fairly
detailed, point-by-point response was in order. His post is reproduced
in parts for my response, but it is complete and in
order so the context cannot be disputed. His words are reproduced as
they were originally posted and have not been edited in
any way with the exception of adding a ">" in order to differentiate
his words from mine. Hopefully this will avoid
confusion.
To begin, he wrote:
A false christian scum was whining about the fact that I obeyed
the Bible and cursed him.
Nowhere in the Bible are there instructions for Christians to curse
others or pray to God to curse others. In fact the
opposite is taught:
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, BLESS THEM THAT CURSE
YOU..." (Matthew 5:44) (Emphasis mine - CM)
"BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU, and pray for them which despitefully
use you." (Luke 6:28) (Emphasis mine - CM)
"Bless them which persecute you: BLESS, AND CURSE NOT" (Romans
12:14) (Emphasis mine - CM)
"But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of
deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and
therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of
God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My
brethren, these things ought not so to be. Doth a fountain send
forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? Can the fig tree,
my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no
fountain both yield salt water and fresh. Who is a wise man and
endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good
conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have
bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not
against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is
earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there
is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from
above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be
intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and
without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace
of them that make peace." (James 3:8-18)
It is taught that "no fountain both yield salt water and fresh" that
is, no person who curses others can bless God. The
cursing of people truly indicates what lies within a person. The
person in question finds it very easy to curse others
therefore by Biblical standards, Christians can see what lies within
him and that it is evil.
To illustrate, here are some excerpts from his past posts to me in
which he attempts to invoke curses:
I ask any real Christians reading here to join me in prayer that
God will curse Carl Mccaskey for his efforts to deceive souls
into hell and to disrupt this echo, but let us also pray that the
Lord would also mightly curse those filthy false preachers that
turned Carl Mccaskey into such putrid false christian filth.
and
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
and
I curse you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
and
I curse Carl Mccaskey in the name of Jesus because he is a
filthy, deceiving false christian scum, Mccaskey.
and
You are filthy, Holy Ghost blaspheming, false christian scum
and I curse you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and ask
that any real Christians here join me in prayer that the
Lord would reward you according to your works without delay
for the sake of any fool that you might ensnare.
and
On the authority and instruction of the Word of God, I curse
you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
and
I curse you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and I also
curse your pastor.
and
May the curse of God be manifest against you and your space
to repent be cut off.
Sadly, the person in question sincerely believes that the scriptures
justify his curses and his prayers to God for curses.
[*Resuming the missive SW wrote that I am currently addressing*]
Let's examine the scriptural precident.
Let's do so, but let's do so thoroughly and properly as one who is
"rightly dividing the word of truth" (2 Timothy 2:15),
that is, one who correctly interprets the Holy Scriptures in both
analyses and presentation in contrast to the
interpretations of false teachers.
I believe, though, that we need not lose track of the bottom line,
regardless of any formality, and that is, the accursedness of any
preacher that is preaching other than the Acts 2:38 message.
Before one preaches the Acts 2:38 message, one must properly
_understand_ the Acts 2:38 message. SW has proved that he does
not preach the true Acts 2:38 message, but a woefully erroneous
translation of Acts 2:38. However that is clearly addressed
in other posts. In this post I will show how SW preaches unsound
doctrine by twisting Galatians 1:8.
Technically the word translated as accursed means nailed up on the
church wall.
I find it interesting that the person in question would give this as a
definition, but not cite the source. This brings doubt
on the validity of this definition.
"If any man comes preaching any other doctrine, nail him up on the
wall of the church" or "let him be nailed up on the wall of the
church."
This is his unsound interpretation of Galatians 1:8.
Let's look at what several respected sources say about Galatians 1:8:
According to my Strong's Exhaustive Concordance Of The Bible (Greek
Dictionary Of The New Testament portion[1]) _anathema_ is
defined thusly: "a (religious) ban or (concr.) excommunicated (thing
or person) :--accused, anathema, curse, X great"
Charles Caldwell Ryrie, Th.D.,Ph.D. properly translates _anathema_ in
Galatians 1:8 as "eternally condemned"[2] NOT "nail him
up on the wall of the church" as SW mistranslates it.
The King James Study Bible properly teaches that if anyone, "even a
heavenly angel...preaches error, is to be accursed, that
is, eternally condemned." [3]
The NIV Study Bible also properly renders _anathema_ as used in
Galatians 1:8 as "eternally condemned" [4].
Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words
specifically addresses the use of _anathema_ in
Galatians 1:8,9 by saying "In Gal. 1:8-9, the apostle declares in the
strongest manner that the gospel he preached was the
one and only way of salvation, and that to preach another was to
nullify the death of Christ."[5] And what happens if one
does not believe in Christ according to scripture? The person is
eternally condemned. Therefore Vine's agrees with the other
sources cited.
Interestingly enough, even my Webster's Collegiate Dictionary[6]
secularly defines _anathema_ thusly:
"1 a: one that is cursed by ecclesiastical authority; b: one that
is intensely disliked: something or someone odious; 2 a: a ban or
curse solemnly pronounced by ecclesiastical authority and
accompanied by excommunication; b: the denunciation of something
as accursed; c: a vigorous denunciation"
So even the secular definition does not support the person in
question's assertion that _anathema_ "means nailed up on the
church wall."
Would you trust Koine Greek translation to someone who has been
extensively trained in Koine Greek or someone like the person
I am quoting in this article who never received any training in Koine
Greek and has to fraudulently call himself "Reverend"
and "Pastor" in order to dishonestly attempt to garner false
credibility?
Furthermore, the KJV Parallel Bible Commentary[7] has, in part, the
following commentary on Galatians 1:8. "God does not want
His Word twisted by unlearned and unstable men unto the destruction of
souls. God said what He meant, and He meant what He
said. God can do nothing less than put an awful curse on all who
reject, pervert and falsify the gospel of His Son. It was
the Holy Spirit who moved Paul to pen these serious words. We must
never forget the awful day of doom and destruction is
coming when the divine "anathema" pronounced here will be executed."
[NOTE: The commentary brings up a couple of questions to ponder about
the persom to whom I am referring. First, is this
person a learned man, that is, one who has received education and
training on subjects that would aid a person in
understanding and rightly dividing scripture? The answer is unclear.
Secondly, is this person a stable man? Perhaps, perhaps
not. If one is familiar with his actions {i.e. - harassing those who
disagree with him as well as people associated with them
via not only computer nets, but also by telephone calls; trying to get
those who disagree with him fired from their job with
false accusations to their superiors; phony threats of legal action;
and numerous other example} then one could easily
question his mental stability. However, in terms of scripture
stability as raised in the KJV Parallel Bible Commentary, he
has clearly proven himself to be quite unstable and therefore should
he should be personally avoided in accordance to Romans
16:17.]
I am only pointing this out for academic purposes as I feel that
a verbal curse with much prayer is a much more appropriate
obediance to the verses.
Only in this person's hardened and deceived heart may it be proper,
but it is clearly NOT appropriate according to scripture.
Furthermore, the person to whom I am addressing in this article claims
his reasoning is for "academic purposes." So why
does he fail to present his interpretation of "anathema" is an
academic manner (i.e. - cite source materials, include
footnotes, etc.)?
I believe that our consideration should be more the realization of
the accursedness of the false preacher rather than getting hung up
over who prays the prayer.
Those who curse others or pray for curses are not obedient to the Holy
Scriptures.
Please note now that this person attempts to use an unnamed source to
try to justify his mistranslation of "accursed" (Gr.
_anathema_). He is counting on the average Christian not having
acknowledged resource material of their own to make sure he
is being truthful and thorough with his "scholarship." Anyone who does
have access to good Biblical resource material
realizes that SW does not present the correct definition of _anathema_
nor does he present thorough and accurate research on
the proper interpretation/definition of _anathema_ as used in
Galatians 1:8.
Gal 1: 8 But though <1437> we, or <2228> an angel <32> from
heaven <3772>, preach <2097> any other gospel <2097> unto
you than <3844> that which <3739> we have preached <2097> unto
you, let him be accursed <331>.
331 anathema {an-ath'-em-ah} from 394; TDNT - 1:353,57; n n
AV - accursed (4)
- anathema (1)
- bind under a great curse + 332 (1) [6]
1) a thing set up or laid by in order to be kept; specifically an
offering resulting from a vow, which after being consecrated
to a god was hung upon the walls or columns of the temple, or
put in some other conspicuous place.
2) a thing devoted to God without hope of being redeemed, and if
an animal, to be slain; therefore a person or thing doomed to
destruction.
2a) a curse
2b) a man accursed, devoted to the direst of woes.
Where did this this person get these definitions? What is his source?
He cites none.
I believe that my perception of Gal 1:8 is quite accurate and
preferable to other possible considerations, like for instance:
If any man preach another gospel:
1. Hang him up on the church wall or some other conspicuous place.
2. Slay him.
3. Destroy him.
What's sad is that this person comes up with this "perception" that is
not even supported by the definitions he chose to
supply. If you will note, in his given definition, what "was hung upon
the walls or columns of the temple, or put in some
other conspicuous place" was a THING not a person as he asserts. If he
cannot even properly interpret something that
simple, why should anyone trust him with Biblical interpretation?
I believe that praying a curse against such a person is the
only acceptable and proper approach to take.
He believes wrongly for even when improperly translated as he has
done, Galatians 1:8 still does NOT teach nor justify any
Christian cursing another or praying for curses against another.
Furthermore, as evidenced by several Biblical passages
quoted earlier in this article, the Bible clearly teaches believers to
not curse others nor pray for such curses [Matt. 5:4;
Luke 6:28; Rom. 12:14; James 3:8-18].
It is obvious that he is no expert in Koine Greek nor is trained
(formally or otherwise) in textual criticism.
Even though many of acceptable translations (KJV, NKJV, NASB, etc.)
render _anathema_ literally as "accursed" in Galatians
1:8, absolutely none of them render the verse the way he does nor do
any of those translations justify a Christian cursing
others. Furthermore the NIV renders Galatians thusly:
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach
a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him
be eternally condemned!" (Galatians 1:8, NIV)
The person to whom I refer, on the other hand has given his private
interpretation of Galatians 1:8 as "If any man comes
preaching any other doctrine, nail him up on the wall of the church"
which is _not_ supported by any recognized translation.
It appears that he could possibly be confusing Galatians 1:8 with
Galatians 3:13 which reads "Christ hath redeemed us from
the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written,
`Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree':"
In Galatians 3:13 Jesus quoted from Deuteronomy 21:23 which described
the old testament law of public hanging and display of
executed criminals. In Deuteronomy 21:23, it is clearly instructed to
bury the body the same day for the reason was that the
corpse of an executed man was an object accursed of God and would
defile the land (Leviticus 18:24-27, Numbers 35:33,34).
However in Galatians 3:13 it is properly taught that Christ was the
executed man who delivered us from the curse of the law
by being crucified on the cross, hence "made a curse for us" (i.e. -
he died for our sins).
Of course some groups that measure themselves among themselves
and as a natural result of that begin to "bear with" those who
preach "another Jesus" (for example the "false Jesus" of the
trinitarians), soon
As has been proven time and time again, the person to whom I am
addressing in this article is the one guilty of preaching
"another Jesus" rather than the orthodox teaching of Christ and the
apostles that is taught today in orthodox churches,
including "trinitarian churches." Let him deceive you not, my
Christian brethren, "trinitarians" and "trinitarian preachers"
are very orthodox for the most part (there always being some
exceptions, sad to say) in their teachings of Jesus and of
scripture.
begin to regard the trinitarians and such like as "wayward brethern"
rather than "accursed children".(not saying that they are beyond
repentance, but we are talking about preachers here).
He would do well to heed his own words here, but until his heart is no
longer hardened to Biblical truths, he will continue
to teach unsound doctrine.
II Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number,
or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they
measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among
themselves, are not wise.
Please note that in this verse that he cites, Paul is showing that the
false teachers in Corinth behave as though there is no
standard of comparison higher than themselves. Ironically, he behaves
the same way by considering his teachings as the final
authority regardless of how much scripture contradicts his teachings.
II Corinthians 10:13 But we will not boast of things without [our]
measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath
distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.
Please note, my Christian brethren, that he constantly boasts of his
earthly measure.
II Corinthians 10:14 For we stretch not ourselves beyond [our
measure], as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far
as to you also in [preaching] the gospel of Christ:
II Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy:
for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as]
a chaste virgin to Christ.
II Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted
from the simplicity that is in Christ.
II Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus,
whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye
have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye
might well bear with [him].
Please note, my Christian brethren, that this person quoted above and
throughout this article continually preaches "another
Jesus" as well as "another gospel" and his unChristian words and
actions clearly show that he has received "another spirit."
His unrepentant mistranslation of Galatians 1:8 is a clearcut example
of his teaching "another gospel."
God DOES NOT want his people to even "bear with" trinitarian
preachers.
Actually God DOES NOT want his people to "bear with" false teachers
like this person quoted above. But even then the Bible
does not teach Christians to be abusive and hateful towards even the
people like this of this world, but to avoid them
(Romans 16:17) and to be able to refute their false teachings using
words with grace seasoned with salt (Col. 4:6), but with
gentleness and respect (1 Peter 3:15).
Your Bible says "let them be accursed", so don't get sidetracked into
the mechanics so much that you lose track of the accursedness of these
false preachers.
But the simple truth of the matter is that his attempts to justify his
curses and prayers for curses via his mistranslation
of Galatians 1:8 falls absolutely flat and is devoid of sound
doctrine. He seems to think that the phrase "let him be
accursed" gives him license to curse whomever he pleases. However that
is NOT what the verse is teaching. The Greek word
translated to "accursed" is _anathema_ which when rightly divided (as
I have shown you earlier) means "eternally condemned."
What these verses are actually teaching is that if anyone, even an
angel, teaches unsound doctrine, then their *false
teachings* eternally condemns them. These verses do not teach that
someone else is supposed to curse the false teacher, but
that the false teacher is condemning himself to eternal condemnation
by their unsound doctrine. The message, NOT the
messenger is of utmost importance. Therefore, it is important to the
Christian to closely examine what this person or any
other self-professed preacher teaches and compare it to scripture in
order to determine the soundness of it. Since we have
already seen that this person's attempts at justifying his cursing is
obviously unscriptural (see: James 3:8-18), what does
this say of him? The Biblical answer is sad indeed.
What if I was totally wrong?
He IS wrong, very wrong.
Would a trinitarian be more or less accused?
No, for they believe scriptural truth.
If God was saying "I will curse them",
But God did not say this in Galatians 1:8. He made this up.
would my saying "I curse you" lessen the curse upon that person?
His saying "I curse you" is in direct opposition to sound Biblical
doctrine (Matt. 5:44, Luke 6:28, Rom. 12:14, James 3:8-18)
and should be avoided (Rom. 16:17,18, 1 Tim. 6:1-5, Titus 1:10-16, 2
Pet. 2:1-22).
Would God hold me accountable for agreeing in prayer and publically
concering the accursedness of one that He had declared "accursed"?
God will hold him accountable for cursing others in His name because
He clearly teaches that no person is to curse another or
even pray for curses. He ignores many verses that clearly instructs
Christians to "curse not."
Will God hold me accountable for praying that His Word be manifest
in a direct mannor?
God will hold him accountable to disobeying His instructions and
continue sinning and teaching other gospels in an
unrepentant manner.
Rev. ***** ******
Remember folks, he is no "Reverend" of any consequence or credibility.
He has never been trained nor been tested as required
by the scriptures (1 Timothy 3:10) therefore he lacks the scriptural
qualifications to be a properly ordained "Reverend" or
"Pastor." Plus the fact that he does not meet most of the
qualifications given for leaders in the church as set out in the
third chapter of 1 Timothy nor does he meet most of the qualifications
for a servant of the Lord as given in 2 Timothy
2:15-16; 2:19-26.
Pay no heed to his unsound doctrine for he is a false teacher that we
Christians are warned to avoid (Romans 16:17, 2 Peter
2:1).
He not only calls himself "Reverend" and "Pastor" (proven phony titles
with no merit and credibility in this person's case),
but he considers himself a Biblical scholar although he has no
credentials and no training of any manner. Some argue that one
does not necessarily need formal training to learn how to rightly
divide scripture and to some extent I agree, but the
scriptures do indicate that one who wishes to be a preacher is to be
tested (1 Timothy 3:10) not only on knowledge but also
on character. He fails both of these tests.
It is important according to scripture that one who wishes to be a
minister of God's words one must prepare via instruction,
study, practice and subsequent testing in order to not only teach
sound doctrine, but to also present it in a Christian
manner.
"Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman
who does not need to be ashamed, handling accurately the word
of truth." (2 Timothy 2:15; NASB)
In fact, Paul included that clear exhortation in an epistle sent to a
young pastor named Timothy. It still applies today for
those who wish to be pastors.
In the footnotes, I have cited several books used to show what true,
legitimate scholars have written in regards to Galatians
1:8 and how they clearly disagree with the person's (to whom I am
addressing in this article) private interpretation of that
verse and the meaning of the Greek word _anathema_ (i.e. - accursed).
In most of the books cited, the writings and editorial
duties were shared by groups of people, all of whom are well qualified
to do so in accordance to 2 Timothy 2:15. For whatever
it is worth, here are just some of those involved and their
credentials as credited in those books:
Wayne A. Brindle, Th.M., Th.D.
Benjamin C. Chapman, Ph.D.
Edward G. Dobson, D.D., Ed.D.
Edward E. Hindson, Th.M., Th.D.
Richard D. Patterson, Th.M., Ph.D.
Edward R. Roustio, Th.D.
Charles Caldwell Ryrie, Th.D.,Ph.D.
Admittedly a degree does not guarantee sound doctrine, but the people
listed (and it is only a partial list) have been
trained and tested as Paul instructed in the epistles Timothy (I do
not personally know any of these gentlemen nor am I
familiar with them enough to say whether their character have been
tested, but I assume they have). This testing drastically
improves the odds that they _will_ impart sound doctrine and will
rightly divide scripture. And if the Holy Spirit is with
them, then the guarantee of sound doctrine is assured. Has SW
undergone any training and testing to lend credence to the
titles "Reverend" and "Pastor" which he has attached to his name
routinely? I have yet to see any evidence that he has.
Now since this person is a self-proclaimed Bible scholar as well as a
self-proclaimed "Reverend" and "Pastor" I openly
challenge him to publicly disclose completely all of his credentials
(if any) and training (if any) so we may then see how he
compares to those listed above as well as others in the future.
However the more important question is if the Holy Spirit is with this
person. I cannot see what is within his heart so I
readily and honestly admit that I cannot say for certain, but God
supplied scriptural guidelines to see whether a person's
words and actions exhibit characteristics consistent with a Spirit-
filled life. One of the most detailed verses on this point
is Galatians 5:22,23 which reads
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patient,
kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
Against such things there is no law." (Gal. 5:22,23; NIV)
Since the scriptures also teach that we all still sin and fall far
short of the glory of God [Rom. 3:23], it is only natural
to expect every believer to fail to exhibit the fruit of the Spirit
from time to time, but this person's behavior is so
constantly devoid of the fruit of the Spirit that it becomes strongly
suspect that the Holy Spirit is within him.
Ironically the very verse that is the focus of this article (Galatians
1:8) is part of a warning to all Christians to be wary
of false preachers teaching false doctrine. It is such an important
warning that it was included in many of the epistles:
"Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and
offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid
them." (Romans 16:17; NKJV)
"But there were also false prophets among the people, even as
there will be false teachers among you, who will bring in
destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who brought them,
and bring on themselves swift destruction." (2 Peter 2:1; NKJV)
"Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will
depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and
doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their
own conscience seared with a hot iron," (1 Timothy 4:1,2; NKJV)
[A sidenote: I personally believe that the person to whom I am
addressing in this article sadly fits the description in these
verses.]
However, no Christian should ever make the mistake of studying
scripture in such minute detail to the exclusion of Christ. I
am heeded of Jesus's warning to the Jewish leaders in John 5:39,40.
"You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have
eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you
are not willing to come to Me that you may have life."
(John 5:39,40; NKJV)
Basically, the bottom line is this: whenever this person's private
doctrines and scriptural interpretations come under
question, I will not only read and study the Bible to find the true
meaning of the verse or verses brought up, but I will
also research what recognized, credible Christian scholars and
teachers have written on the matter and I will pray for God's
grace in guidance and understanding. And if the Biblical truth is
opposed with this person's private interpretation, then I
must side with God's words instead of this person's words.
In regards to his interpretation of Galatians 1:8 as justification of
his actions, the person in question is once again
guilty of teaching "another gospel" rather than the Gospel taught by
Jesus Christ and His disciples. Ironically this makes
him a victim of the very verse he perverts to his own purposes, namely
Galatians 1:8 and according to the proper and rightly
divided interpretation of this Bible verse, he is setting himself up
to be eternally condemned. I hope and pray that he will
someday see the seriousness of his error and allow God to come into
his life to cast off the demonic forces that are blinding
him to Biblical truths. Only then will he find true joy, happiness and
contentment rather than the bitterness, anger and
abject hatred that he currently suffers.
My Christian brethren, I beseech you all to reject his false teachings
and avoid his provocations in accordance to scripture,
but I also exhort you to not respond to him in any manner unbecoming a
Christian. Furthermore, I beseech all my learned
Christian brethren to ask God for His help in refuting his errors in
gentleness and respect.
I ask all my Christian brethren to please include him in your personal
prayers, forgiving him for whatever transgressions he
may have committed against you and ask God to bless him. This is what
we, as believers, should do for him in the hopes that
one day God will allow the seeds we plant to grow into something
wondrous.
Amen!
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FOOTNOTES:
[1] This definition is found in the dictionary entitled "A Concise
Dictionary Of The Words In The Greek New Testament; With Their
Renderings In The Authorized English Version" by James Strong,
S.T.D., LL.D. which is included in my copy of "Strong's Exhaustive
Concordance Of The Bible" [Hendrickson Publishers]
[2] "Ryrie Study Bible: Expanded Edition", Charles Caldwell Ryrie,
Th.D,Ph.D. [Moody Press, 1994]
[3] "King James Study Bible" [Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1988]
[4] "The NIV Study Bible: 10th Anniversary Edition" [Zondervan
Publishers, 1995]
[5] "Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament
Words" [Thomas Nelson Publishers, 1985]
[6] "Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary" [Merriam-Webster Inc.,
1983]
[7] "The KJV Parallel Bible Commentary" [Thomas Nelson Publishers,
1994]
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| Title: Re: ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION OF GALATIANS 1:8 |
18 May 2007 11:28:05 AM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
Of course a filthy, deceiving, Satanic, lying, false-christian
scum like Carl Mccaskey doesn't want real Christians obeying that
commandment!
What other commandment in the Bible is repeated in the very next
verse?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
Did you know that the phrase "let him be accursed" only appears
twice in the whole KJV Bible?
That means that deceiving Satanic, polytheistic false-christian
filth like Carl Mccaskey really are lower in the eyes of God than
even the Sodomite or the child molester.
I have really come to believe after watching the core hatred that
Carl Mccaskey has for the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and the
true Acts 2:38 salvation message, not to mention the times he has
blasphemed the Holy Ghost, that Mccaskey is among those scum that
God has rejected forever.
There are some who have rejected the Acts 2:38 message once too
often. I believe that Carl Mccaskey is among those Satanic scum
to whom repentance is no longer available.
II Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of
unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not
the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
The true Christian loves the truth! Carl Mccaskey HATES the
truth with a Satanic passion and obsession.
II Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them
strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
II Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed
not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Three thousand baptised in Jesus name, on the birthday of the new
testament church. A truth that exposes Carl Mccaskey and all the
trinity peddling scum for the deceivers that they are!
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine
and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Sins are remitted or "washed away" by Jesus Name water baptism.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.
The Name of The Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY NAME that will save
in baptism.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man]
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to
please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant
of Christ.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
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| User: "Pastor Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Carl Mccaskey HATES the truth with a Satanic passion and obsession! |
18 May 2007 11:26:53 AM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
Of course a filthy, deceiving, false-christian scum like Carl
Mccaskey doesn't want real Christians obeying that commandment!
But what other commandment in the Bible is repeated in the very
next verse?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
The phrase "let him be accursed" only appears twice in the whole
Bible.
That means that deceiving Satanic, polytheistic false-christian
filth like Carl Mccaskey really are lower in the eyes of God than
even the Sodomite or the child molester.
I have really come to believe after watching the core hatred that
Carl Mccaskey has for the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and the
true Acts 2:38 salvation message, not to mention the times he has
blasphemed the Holy Ghost, that Mccaskey is among those scum that
God has rejected forever.
There are some who have rejected the Acts 2:38 message once too
often. I believe that Carl Mccaskey is among those Satanic scum
to whom repentance is no longer available.
II Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of
unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not
the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
The true Christian loves the truth! Carl Mccaskey HATES the
truth with a Satanic passion and obsession.
II Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them
strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
II Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed
not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Three thousand baptised in Jesus name, on the birthday of the new
testament church. A truth that exposes Carl Mccaskey and all the
trinity peddling scum for the deceivers that they are!
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine
and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Sins are remitted or "washed away" by Jesus Name water baptism.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.
The Name of The Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY NAME that will save
in baptism.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man]
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to
please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant
of Christ.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
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| User: "Pastor Steve Winter" |
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| Title: Carl Mccaskey, lower than a child molester in the eys of God. |
18 May 2007 11:24:19 AM |
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spake thusly and wrote:
ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
Of course a filthy, deceiving, false-christian scum like Carl
Mccaskey doesn't want real Christians obeying that commandment!
But what other commandment in the Bible is repeated in the very
next verse?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
The phrase "let him be accursed" only appears twice in the whole
Bible.
That shows us that scum like Carl Mccaskey are lower in the eyes
of God than unrepentant Sodomites or even child molesters.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
That means that deceiving Satanic, polytheistic false-christian
filth like Carl Mccaskey really are lower in the eyes of God than
even the Sodomite or the child molester.
I have come to really believe after watching the hatred that Carl
Mccaskey has for the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and the true
Acts 2:38 salvation message, not to mention the times he has
blasphemed the Holy Ghost, that he is among those that God has
rejected forever.
There are some who have rejected the Acts 2:38 message once too
often. I believe that Carl Mccaskey is among those to whom
repentance is no longer available.
II Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of
unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not
the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
The true Christian loves the truth! Carl Mccaskey HATES the
truth.
II Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them
strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
II Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed
not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Three thousand baptised in Jesus name, on the birthday of the new
testament church. A truth that exposes Carl Mccaskey and all the
trinity peddling scum for the deceivers that they are!
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine
and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Sins are remitted or "washed away" by Jesus Name water baptism.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.
The Name of The Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY NAME that will save
in baptism.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man]
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to
please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant
of Christ.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
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| User: "Jesus" |
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| Title: Re: Carl Mccaskey, lower than a child molester in the eys of God. |
18 May 2007 03:48:30 PM |
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Mrs. Winter is no follower of me. He has rejected all that I taught my
Apostles. I fear that he will end up in that phoney fiery lake he's always
writing about. My heart aches so when I think that Mr. Winter has caused the
Church I founded so much pain and suffering. Let uxs pray for his soul to be
healed.
Jesus
"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote in message
news:sjkr43dc58adnq4qfnqdlg8nlveoqo2jvl@4ax.com...
saints@nettally.com spake thusly and wrote:
ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
Of course a filthy, deceiving, false-christian scum like Carl
Mccaskey doesn't want real Christians obeying that commandment!
But what other commandment in the Bible is repeated in the very
next verse?
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
The phrase "let him be accursed" only appears twice in the whole
Bible.
That shows us that scum like Carl Mccaskey are lower in the eyes
of God than unrepentant Sodomites or even child molesters.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
That means that deceiving Satanic, polytheistic false-christian
filth like Carl Mccaskey really are lower in the eyes of God than
even the Sodomite or the child molester.
I have come to really believe after watching the hatred that Carl
Mccaskey has for the real Jesus Christ of the Bible and the true
Acts 2:38 salvation message, not to mention the times he has
blasphemed the Holy Ghost, that he is among those that God has
rejected forever.
There are some who have rejected the Acts 2:38 message once too
often. I believe that Carl Mccaskey is among those to whom
repentance is no longer available.
II Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of
unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not
the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
The true Christian loves the truth! Carl Mccaskey HATES the
truth.
II Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them
strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
II Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed
not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized
every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of
sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and
to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God
shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort,
saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized:
and the same day there were added [unto them] about three
thousand souls.
Three thousand baptised in Jesus name, on the birthday of the new
testament church. A truth that exposes Carl Mccaskey and all the
trinity peddling scum for the deceivers that they are!
Acts 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine
and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only,
deceiving your own selves.
Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and
wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Sins are remitted or "washed away" by Jesus Name water baptism.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is
none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be
saved.
The Name of The Lord Jesus Christ is the ONLY NAME that will save
in baptism.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man]
preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let
him be accursed.
Deceiving filth like Carl Mccaskey are to be accursed!
Galatians 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to
please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant
of Christ.
Pastor sTeve Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION OF GALATIANS 1:8 |
18 May 2007 12:37:44 PM |
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On 18 May 2007 06:04:12 -0700, claimed:
ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN?
A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
by Carl McCaskey
On various discussion groups and computer networks there is a certain
individual many Christians are very familiar with. He
calls himself a Christian, but many of his words and actions are
definitely of an unChristian nature. He also calls himself a
"Reverend" and a "Pastor", but he never clarifies who ordained him nor
answers any questions about the validity of the titles
I assume you're talking about Stevey. I agree with you,
but as for "who ordained him", I don't tell people here
either. I did once and it turned into a nightmare for
the place who did.
and upon close investigation it turns out that the titles are ones he
bestowed upon himself.
That may be true. As for me, people say that of me
and yet, it is not true.
--
Pastor Dave
People are so afraid to reject doctrine, that they just
don't give a damn what the Bible actually says! (:
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL |
20 May 2007 06:41:28 PM |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:37:44 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:
On 18 May 2007 06:04:12 -0700, claimed:
ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
by Carl McCaskey
On various discussion groups and computer networks there is a certain
individual many Christians are very familiar with. He calls himself a
Christian, but many of his words and actions are definitely of an
unChristian nature. He also calls himself a
"Reverend" and a "Pastor", but he never clarifies who ordained him nor
answers any questions about the validity of the titles
I assume you're talking about Stevey. I agree with you, but as for "who
ordained him", I don't tell people here either. I did once and it
turned into a nightmare for the place who did.
and upon close investigation it turns out that the titles are ones he
bestowed upon himself.
That may be true. As for me, people say that of me and yet, it is not
true.
Cursing people is a form of witchcraft and a Christian would be well-
advised to stay away from it. It is also a good road to insanity.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION OF GALATIANS 1:8 |
20 May 2007 08:07:13 PM |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 18:41:28 -0500, Bill
<bigbill52@yuckawin.com> claimed:
On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:37:44 -0400, Pastor Dave wrote:
On 18 May 2007 06:04:12 -0700, claimed:
ACCURSED BY SOMEONE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIAN? A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION
OF GALATIANS 1:8
by Carl McCaskey
On various discussion groups and computer networks there is a certain
individual many Christians are very familiar with. He calls himself a
Christian, but many of his words and actions are definitely of an
unChristian nature. He also calls himself a
"Reverend" and a "Pastor", but he never clarifies who ordained him nor
answers any questions about the validity of the titles
I assume you're talking about Stevey. I agree with you, but as for "who
ordained him", I don't tell people here either. I did once and it
turned into a nightmare for the place who did.
and upon close investigation it turns out that the titles are ones he
bestowed upon himself.
That may be true. As for me, people say that of me and yet, it is not
true.
Cursing people is a form of witchcraft and a Christian would be well-
advised to stay away from it. It is also a good road to insanity.
I agree with you and wasn't disagreeing with anything
that was written, except for the part in which saying
that because someone doesn't say where they were
ordained, that means it isn't legit. That's all.
I know Stevey and I know how evil he is, so you need
spend no time trying to convince me. :)
--
Pastor Dave
People are so afraid to reject doctrine, that they just
don't give a damn what the Bible actually says! Sad!
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