On 9 Mar 2004 06:28:15 -0800,
"Someone Anonymous" <someone462000@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Sneechres" <sneechres@yahoo.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
He's most certainly not good enough to fool anyone, what
a silly charade.
Actually, I take that back. There's one person Craig has
fooled... himself. I think he really believes what he says.
LOL!!!! All I've done is marshall most of all of the relevant
FACTS that pertain to the loathesome agendas that you ignorant
RRR-cult lemmings pursue, and use them to shine the spotlight of
truth upon those agendas. Truths that so **potently** counter them,
that if those agendas were the vampires of novels, they'd instantly
crumble into heaps of dust as though caught in noonday sunlight.
Take just ONE of those issues, to use as an example. The
following outline contains dozens of relevant facts pertaining to the
right of women who so choose to access abortion-upon-request.
And NO Anti-Choicer/RRR cultist has EVER been able to disprove
**any** of the points that it makes. NOR can they even come up
with so much as even *one* relevant fact that supports **their**
hateful stance of seeking to DENY it to women. Probably
because NO such fact even exists, or ever has.
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ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortion terminates entities (z/e/fs: zygotes, embryoes &
fetuses, up until the 7th month of gestation*) which have ALL
of these characteristics in common with sperm and ova:
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend z/e/fs but NOT sperm and ova.
*(AFTER the 7th month of gestation, rudimentary conscious
awareness is regarded possible, by medical science. But
that's a moot point since, per a report by JAMA, 99.99996%
of U.S. abortions already have been performed by that
point.)
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of s/o/z/e/fs
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That the Bible regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by its immense emphasis on the importance
of BIRTH order, and BIRTHrights.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization
-- Thus making z/e/f and sperm & ova of EQUAL worth
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision
-- Most women have no regrets
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation
-- Avoid bringing child into less-loving home
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment
-- Wait until timing is better before having children
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 40 million abortions have been done
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 was at 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s was the most economically-
dynamic of any nation in the entire history of the world.
And we're still 'way ahead of whomever is in 2nd place!
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire
world.
-- Originally posted to alt.abortion & talk.abortion
on Aug. 13, 2000, and updated since.
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...Chilton certainly seems to fall into the "won't save" category.
Well, now, since I am a steadfast defender of human rights, and
defend individual liberties against hateful bigots who seek to impose
immense hardship upon millions of people and make their lives
miserable for NO good reason, that makes my role analogous to that
of the Good Samaritan in Jesus' parable... and totally in keeping with
Jesus' COMMAND to His followers that they show love and compas-
sion to their neighbors. God will make His own decisions, but I see
nothing in the Bible that commands people to be **hateful** to
their neighbors.
In light of all this "Sneechres" makes a TOTAL idiot of herself
by telling **these** wacko lies....
Craig is a bigot almost worse than anyone I've ever seen in
that there doesn't seem to be a single thing one could say to
convince him of the true nature of Christianity, or his errors.
He'd argue with Christ himself.
Topped only by *your* abject stupidity:
He'd certainly be yelling, "cruicify him."
<remaining hate-SWILL flushed into the Sewage Treatment Center>
[[[ READERS: Please don't make the serious mistake of con-
fusing *actual* Christians -- who comprise around 99% of
America's Christian believers, and are very SENSIBLE, toler-
ant, fair-minded. and non-invasive people who live very
normal lives... with the splinter group that comprises the
hate-filled, intolerant, busybodyish and control-freakish self-
appointed "enforcers" of that which they TWIST in their
bigoted minds into MISperceived Biblical precepts. The
Bible appointed NO Gestapo, even to enforce its *actual*
precepts against society in general. The RRR cultists are
probably comprised of very ignorant people, since it would
TAKE a lot of ignorance to allow one's self to be conned
into becoming programmed lemmings who soak up the
cult's false doctrines and dogmas like sponges, and then
seek to deny personal liberties to millions of people. Are
they "Christians?" SOME of them are: **deluded** ones.
The remainder probably are PSEUDO-Christians who cloak
themselves in the mantle of the little bit of remaining
credibility that the FAIR-minded Christians still have, after
being wrongly painted by the cult's brush of bigotry and
hate (which only the cultists deserve), over the last 30
years since that abomination was first initiated by Jerry
Fallwell. (He called it the "Moral Majority" -- but it NEVER
was either moral, OR a majority.) ]]]
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
(REAL name and e-mail address, lest any bigot wrongly
think I'm hiding behind an a alias. The "alias," above,
is designed to be a visible MESSAGE, each time I post.)
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INSIGHT on our Warmonger-in-Thief ---
http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html
AND...
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
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ALSO worth a look:
http://anon.newmediamill.speedera.net/anon.newmediamill/pledge_acc/index.html
And... here's what happens to people like you & me:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/05/21/antiwar.soldier.ap/index.html
However, the same rules don't apply to the "Elite:"
www.awolbush.com
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