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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Craig Chilton"
Date: 09 Dec 2003 04:12:38 AM
Object: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN!
Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other) -- on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement
as the man to OUST Bush next year. This may be the key
advantage that Dean needs to ultimately sew up the nomination,
since he's already well ahead of the rest of the pack in Iowa and
New Hampshire... where the Caucus and Primary, respectively,
are now just a few weeks away!
If Dean beats Bush, the RRR cultists will be whining for years
as their hateful agendas against personal liberties spiral down into
extinction, and that'll be the BEST break Americans have gotten
since Clinton was still President!
-- Craig Chilton

.

User: "Charlie Wolf"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 09 Dec 2003 01:04:02 PM
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:36:39 -0500, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
wrote:



But, as long as people act like blind sheep, they will be led by the

nose

by people like Hitler and Bush.



Shamefully, most Americans don't vote.


Well, it appears that most of the Democrats in Florida that did vote
were too fucking stupid to figure out how to properly cast a ballot.
Lying fucking liberal assholes then accused GWB and the USSC of
"stealing the election", completely ignoring the fact that ALGore
brought in Chicago gangsters and a whole team of lawyers to try to
throw the election. Shamefully, one of the tactics AlGore used was to
disenfranchise thousands of active duty military troops.
Fucking liberals. Fucking Democrats. ***** all of you. It is a
wondrous thing to watch the Democrat Party go down in Flames. Go Dean
Go!!!


I'm glad you don't vote.

Ummm - I do vote. The difference between me and you is that MY vote
counts. I know how to fill out the ballot correctly.
Regards,



.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 09 Dec 2003 01:06:55 PM
"Charlie Wolf" <retiredUSN@noemail.com> wrote in message
news:j37ctvsl3qj2radsa41ludoqpdcveg9jrc@4ax.com...

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 09:36:39 -0500, "Witziges Rätsel" <zer@roer.com>
wrote:



But, as long as people act like blind sheep, they will be led by the

nose

by people like Hitler and Bush.



Shamefully, most Americans don't vote.


Well, it appears that most of the Democrats in Florida that did vote
were too fucking stupid to figure out how to properly cast a ballot.
Lying fucking liberal assholes then accused GWB and the USSC of
"stealing the election", completely ignoring the fact that ALGore
brought in Chicago gangsters and a whole team of lawyers to try to
throw the election. Shamefully, one of the tactics AlGore used was to
disenfranchise thousands of active duty military troops.
Fucking liberals. Fucking Democrats. ***** all of you. It is a
wondrous thing to watch the Democrat Party go down in Flames. Go Dean
Go!!!


I'm glad you don't vote.

Ummm - I do vote. The difference between me and you is that MY vote
counts. I know how to fill out the ballot correctly.
Regards,

That does seem to be a problem with a lot of the democrats. Hopefully next
time they will read.
Or at least not try to sabotage the military absentee ballots, or try votes
from people who have all ready died.
You never know just how low they are willing to go.
.


User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 09 Dec 2003 10:43:14 PM
Charlie Wolf <retiredUSN@noemail.com> wrote:

Lying fucking liberal assholes then accused GWB and the USSC of
"stealing the election", completely ignoring the fact that ALGore

Republican "morality".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "Ubiquitous"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 31 Dec 2003 05:24:49 PM
In article <3fe79cee.29689603@netnews.mchsi.com>,

wrote:

Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other)

Still bitter about AlGore being unable to steal the election?

on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement as the man to OUST Bush
next year.

When asked about AlGore's endorsement, Clinton recomended that
Joe Lieberman "put some ice" on that wound in his back.
--
======================================================================
ISLAM: Winning the hearts and minds of the world, one bomb at a time.
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 01 Jan 2004 10:27:42 AM
weberm!@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote in message news:<eNednZUGJp1cx26iRVn-hA@comcast.com>...

In article <3fe79cee.29689603@netnews.mchsi.com>,


wrote:

Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other)


Still bitter about AlGore being unable to steal the election?

Yea! we should have counted those votes until the desired results
were acheived!


on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement as the man to OUST Bush
next year.


When asked about AlGore's endorsement, Clinton recomended that
Joe Lieberman "put some ice" on that wound in his back.

If the American people wanted Al Gore as President then why is he not
running again? Perhaps its because he now KNOWS he can't use the
courts to steal an election?
.
User: "indypndntwomn"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 01 Jan 2004 10:54:11 AM
"Mark Fox" <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a258afb5.0401010827.2ca970c1@posting.google.com...

wrote:

Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other)


Still bitter about AlGore being unable to steal the election?


Yea! we should have counted those votes until the desired results
were acheived!


on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement as the man to OUST Bush
next year.


When asked about AlGore's endorsement, Clinton recomended that
Joe Lieberman "put some ice" on that wound in his back.


If the American people wanted Al Gore as President then why is he not
running again? Perhaps its because he now KNOWS he can't use the
courts to steal an election?

Personally, one of the reasons he isn't running (I think lol) is
that in his heart of hearts he knows that Florida would not have
mattered one iota if he had only carried his home state of TN.
When those who know you won't back you, there is a problem.
But that's just ammo
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 01 Jan 2004 11:39:45 AM
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

weberm!@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote in message news:<eNednZUGJp1cx26iRVn-hA@comcast.com>...

In article <3fe79cee.29689603@netnews.mchsi.com>,


wrote:

Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other)


Still bitter about AlGore being unable to steal the election?


Yea! we should have counted those votes until the desired results
were acheived!

Or until they were actually counted.

on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement as the man to OUST Bush
next year.


When asked about AlGore's endorsement, Clinton recomended that
Joe Lieberman "put some ice" on that wound in his back.


If the American people wanted Al Gore as President then why is he not
running again?

Because the year is 2004 and not 2000.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 01 Jan 2004 10:35:06 PM
(Ray Fischer) wrote

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

weberm!@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote

xanadu222@mchsi.com wrote:

Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other)


Still bitter about AlGore being unable to steal the election?


Yea! we should have counted those votes until the desired results
were acheived!


Or until they were actually counted.

How many times do you have to count them before they become "actually
counted"?
In my thinking if you count them twice and the same winner emerges
both times then you are done.


on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement as the man to OUST Bush
next year.


When asked about AlGore's endorsement, Clinton recomended that
Joe Lieberman "put some ice" on that wound in his back.


If the American people wanted Al Gore as President then why is he not
running again?


Because the year is 2004 and not 2000.

If a man is electable then it matters not what year it is.
Gore is not running because he is not electable.
.
User: "Greg Bernath"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 02 Jan 2004 04:22:46 PM
(Mark Fox) wrote:

How many times do you have to count them before they become "actually
counted"?

Once.
A ballot kicked out of a machine without being counted isn't
"counted". Sticking it back in the machine and having it kicked out a
second time still doesn't make it counted.

In my thinking if you count them twice and the same winner emerges
both times then you are done.

Correct. Which is why that should have been done.

If a man is electable then it matters not what year it is.

If the great Republicans -- Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Eisenhower --
were running today, they'd be derided by the current Republican party
as leftist traitors.

Gore is not running because he is not electable.

What, no plots masterminded by Hillary? I'm disappointed.
Greg Bernath
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 02 Jan 2004 08:36:24 PM
Greg Bernath <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<8frbvvgc4pm619392a28v0nbvto5pocqna@4ax.com>...

mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) wrote:

How many times do you have to count them before they become "actually
counted"?


Once.

A ballot kicked out of a machine without being counted isn't
"counted". Sticking it back in the machine and having it kicked out a
second time still doesn't make it counted.

The other hundred thousand ballots were counted. What was wrong with that one?
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 02 Jan 2004 10:42:22 PM
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Greg Bernath <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net>

How many times do you have to count them before they become "actually
counted"?


Once.

A ballot kicked out of a machine without being counted isn't
"counted". Sticking it back in the machine and having it kicked out a
second time still doesn't make it counted.


The other hundred thousand ballots were counted. What was wrong with that one?

Overvotes in which the voter wrote in the name of the candidate as
well as punching the appropriate hole were rejected.
For example.
A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 03 Jan 2004 01:24:47 PM
(Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net:

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:
A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.

yes, that is common knowledge.
--
"James Keegan has shown he does not favor and/or support
legalized abortion."
-coward bobby heishman lying as "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
news:1eednfCfCfJV3nOiRVn-hg@comcast.com:
"I also have you on record for not supporting and/or favoring legalized
abortion as well."
-Robert Heishman lying as coward Osprey about Ray Fischer in
<ouednVs5R7Zs5m2iRVn-vA@comcast.com>
.
User: "The Ghost In The Machine"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 03 Jan 2004 06:57:15 PM
In talk.abortion, james g. keegan jr.
<keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote
on Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:24:47 GMT
<Xns946592991B7F7keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net:

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:


A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.



yes, that is common knowledge.

Gore did get more votes in the nationwide tally but that's
not how the Electoral College works.
I don't know regarding Florida's votes, though.
--
#191,

It's still legal to go .sigless.
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 03 Jan 2004 07:21:58 PM
The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:4o3kc1-2n1.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net:

In talk.abortion, james g. keegan jr.
<keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote
on Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:24:47 GMT
<Xns946592991B7F7keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net:

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:


A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.



yes, that is common knowledge.


Gore did get more votes in the nationwide tally but that's
not how the Electoral College works.

I don't know regarding Florida's votes, though.

you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that a payoff
was made to florida's secretary of state for not counting those votes.
and then the supreme court committed what some feel is treason.
and we let it pass, opening the door to even more.
--
"James Keegan has shown he does not favor and/or support
legalized abortion."
-coward bobby heishman lying as "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
news:1eednfCfCfJV3nOiRVn-hg@comcast.com:
"I also have you on record for not supporting and/or favoring legalized
abortion as well."
-Robert Heishman lying as coward Osprey about Ray Fischer in
<ouednVs5R7Zs5m2iRVn-vA@comcast.com>
.
User: "BTR1701"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 03 Jan 2004 11:16:08 PM
In article <Xns9465CF27E7AD1keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:4o3kc1-2n1.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net:

In talk.abortion, james g. keegan jr.
<keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote
on Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:24:47 GMT
<Xns946592991B7F7keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net:

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:


A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.



yes, that is common knowledge.


Gore did get more votes in the nationwide tally but that's
not how the Electoral College works.

I don't know regarding Florida's votes, though.



you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that a payoff
was made to florida's secretary of state for not counting those votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is treason.

It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't. And given
the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it isn't.
.
User: "Mike Helm"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 04 Jan 2004 12:20:24 AM
On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:16:08 GMT, BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com>

In article <Xns9465CF27E7AD1keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:4o3kc1-2n1.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net:

In talk.abortion, james g. keegan jr.
<keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote
on Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:24:47 GMT
<Xns946592991B7F7keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net:

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:


A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.



yes, that is common knowledge.


Gore did get more votes in the nationwide tally but that's
not how the Electoral College works.

I don't know regarding Florida's votes, though.



you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that a payoff
was made to florida's secretary of state for not counting those votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is treason.


It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't. And given
the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it isn't.

Given that people who vote often rely on their feelings, I'd say it does
matter what they feel.
But then again, I feel encouraged by the statement somewhere in this
thread that Gore is "unelectable". Given the closeness of the 2000
election, it means that Bush was only barely electable when put up
against an "unelectable" candidate.
.
User: "BTR1701"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 04 Jan 2004 12:38:16 AM
In article <2tbfvvsp54l0cscfokb62piqdq8ao4lhp7@4ax.com>, Mike Helm
<mhelm@not.known> wrote:

On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:16:08 GMT, BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com>

In article <Xns9465CF27E7AD1keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>, "james g.
keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@sirius.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in
news:4o3kc1-2n1.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net:

In talk.abortion, james g. keegan jr.
<keegan@nycap.rr.com>
wrote
on Sat, 03 Jan 2004 19:24:47 GMT
<Xns946592991B7F7keegannycaprrcom@24.24.2.167>:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
news:bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net:

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:


A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.



yes, that is common knowledge.


Gore did get more votes in the nationwide tally but that's
not how the Electoral College works.

I don't know regarding Florida's votes, though.



you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that a payoff
was made to florida's secretary of state for not counting those votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is treason.


It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't. And given
the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it isn't.


Given that people who vote often rely on their feelings, I'd say it does
matter what they feel.

Only insomuch as how they decide to vote.
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 04 Jan 2004 09:20:20 AM
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote...

Mike Helm wrote:


you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that a payoff
was made to florida's secretary of state for not counting those votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is treason.


It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't. And given
the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it isn't.


Given that people who vote often rely on their feelings, I'd say it does
matter what they feel.


Only insomuch as how they decide to vote.

And it has been found that the people who "feel" the Supreme Court
committed treason are the same people who can't seem to figure out how
to punch a hole in a ballot. Lucky for the rest of us!!
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 04 Jan 2004 10:59:51 AM
(Mark Fox) wrote in
news:a258afb5.0401040720.1c77922@posting.google.com:

BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote...

Mike Helm wrote:



you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that
a payoff was made to florida's secretary of state for not
counting those votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is
treason.


It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't.
And given the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it
isn't.


Given that people who vote often rely on their feelings, I'd say
it does matter what they feel.


Only insomuch as how they decide to vote.


And it has been found that the people who "feel" the Supreme Court
committed treason are the same people who can't seem to figure out
how to punch a hole in a ballot. Lucky for the rest of us!!

who ever suggested that *all* votes cast were to eb counted anyway,
right?
--
"James Keegan has shown he does not favor and/or support
legalized abortion."
-coward bobby heishman lying as "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
news:1eednfCfCfJV3nOiRVn-hg@comcast.com:
"I also have you on record for not supporting and/or favoring legalized
abortion as well."
-Robert Heishman lying as coward Osprey about Ray Fischer in
<ouednVs5R7Zs5m2iRVn-vA@comcast.com>
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 06 Jan 2004 08:00:46 AM
"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote

mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) wrote:

BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote...

Mike Helm wrote:



you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that
a payoff was made to florida's secretary of state for not
counting those votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is
treason.


It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't.
And given the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it
isn't.


Given that people who vote often rely on their feelings, I'd say
it does matter what they feel.


Only insomuch as how they decide to vote.


And it has been found that the people who "feel" the Supreme Court
committed treason are the same people who can't seem to figure out
how to punch a hole in a ballot. Lucky for the rest of us!!



who ever suggested that *all* votes cast were to be counted anyway,
right?

So you want to vote for Joe and don't follow the directions
(instructions that were approved by BOTH political parties before the
election) and you punch the hole for Fred, then you whine that your
vote wasn't counted? Who's fault is that?
If one is too stupid to punch the correct hole in a ballot then he
shouldn't be selecting the next President anyway. All is right with
the world!
Are you one of those guys who thinks that everyone should get a high
school diploma whether they can read or not??? After all its only
fair!!
.
User: "james g. keegan jr."

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 06 Jan 2004 06:35:28 PM
(Mark Fox) wrote in
news:a258afb5.0401060600.381fa07b@posting.google.com:

"james g. keegan jr." <keegan@nycap.rr.com> wrote

who ever suggested that *all* votes cast were to be counted anyway,
right?


So you want to vote for Joe and don't follow the directions
(instructions that were approved by BOTH political parties before the
election) and you punch the hole for Fred, then you whine that your
vote wasn't counted? Who's fault is that?

If one is too stupid to punch the correct hole in a ballot then he
shouldn't be selecting the next President anyway. All is right with
the world!

Are you one of those guys who thinks that everyone should get a high
school diploma whether they can read or not??? After all its only
fair!!

who ever said that *all* votes cast were to be counted anyway?
--
"James Keegan has shown he does not favor and/or support
legalized abortion."
-coward bobby heishman lying as "Osprey"
<noneedstoknow@mail.com>
news:1eednfCfCfJV3nOiRVn-hg@comcast.com:
"I also have you on record for not supporting and/or favoring legalized
abortion as well."
-Robert Heishman lying as coward Osprey about Ray Fischer in
<ouednVs5R7Zs5m2iRVn-vA@comcast.com>
.



User: "BTR1701"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 04 Jan 2004 10:51:13 AM
In article <a258afb5.0401040720.1c77922@posting.google.com>,
mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) wrote:

BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote...

Mike Helm wrote:



you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that a
payoff was made to florida's secretary of state for not counting those
votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is treason.


It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't. And
given the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it isn't.


Given that people who vote often rely on their feelings, I'd say it
does matter what they feel.


Only insomuch as how they decide to vote.


And it has been found that the people who "feel" the Supreme Court
committed treason are the same people who can't seem to figure out how
to punch a hole in a ballot.

Where exactly has that been "found"?
You seem to be the master of the passive voice.
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 06 Jan 2004 08:06:48 AM
BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote...

mark_fox_@yahoo.com (Mark Fox) wrote:

BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote...

Mike Helm wrote:



you know that gore votes were not counted in florida and that a
payoff was made to florida's secretary of state for not counting those
votes.

and then the supreme court committed what some feel is treason.


It doesn't matter what "some feel". It either is or it isn't. And
given the legal definition of treason in the US Code, it isn't.


Given that people who vote often rely on their feelings, I'd say it
does matter what they feel.


Only insomuch as how they decide to vote.


And it has been found that the people who "feel" the Supreme Court
committed treason are the same people who can't seem to figure out how
to punch a hole in a ballot.


Where exactly has that been "found"?

You seem to be the master of the passive voice.

Lets see if I have this straight??
1. you don't know how to punch a hole in a ballot
2. you also don't understand the definition of "treason"
3. now you say that you don't even understand SARCASM???
The problem is worse than I thought!
.









User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 03 Jan 2004 09:48:34 AM
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Greg Bernath <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net>


How many times do you have to count them before they become "actually
counted"?


Once.

A ballot kicked out of a machine without being counted isn't
"counted". Sticking it back in the machine and having it kicked out a
second time still doesn't make it counted.


The other hundred thousand ballots were counted. What was wrong with that one?


Overvotes in which the voter wrote in the name of the candidate as
well as punching the appropriate hole were rejected.

For example.

A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.

The rules of the ballot counting machine (that two holes punched in
the ballot invalidates that ballot) were clearly understood and
accepted by BOTH PARTIES before the election. Why do Democrats now
want to change the rules after the game is played? Counting under a
new/changed set of rules is not a recount. You agreed to the rules
before the election. Does your solemn word mean nothing to you?
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 06 Jan 2004 10:40:48 PM
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<bt5h7d$38g$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Greg Bernath <gregignoresthis@earthlink.net>


How many times do you have to count them before they become "actually
counted"?


Once.

A ballot kicked out of a machine without being counted isn't
"counted". Sticking it back in the machine and having it kicked out a
second time still doesn't make it counted.


The other hundred thousand ballots were counted. What was wrong with that one?


Overvotes in which the voter wrote in the name of the candidate as
well as punching the appropriate hole were rejected.

For example.

A full recount of the state done by a media association found that
Gore actually got more votes than Bush.


The rules of the ballot counting machine (that two holes punched in
the ballot invalidates that ballot) were clearly understood and
accepted by BOTH PARTIES before the election.

Irrelevant. Florida law said that the clear intent of the voter was
what counted.

Why do Democrats now
want to change the rules after the game is played?

Why do you lie?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.





User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 02 Jan 2004 10:40:58 PM
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yea! we should have counted those votes until the desired results
were acheived!


Or until they were actually counted.


How many times do you have to count them before they become "actually
counted"?

Once.

If the American people wanted Al Gore as President then why is he not
running again?


Because the year is 2004 and not 2000.


If a man is electable then it matters not what year it is.

What a stupid statement.
No wonder you're a Republican.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Mark Fox"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 03 Jan 2004 10:09:30 AM
(Ray Fischer) wrote...

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

If the American people wanted Al Gore as President then why is he not
running again?


Because the year is 2004 and not 2000.


If a man is electable then it matters not what year it is.


What a stupid statement.

No wonder you're a Republican.

What a stupid statement, Ray. I am not a Republican. I'm a middle
class democrat who doesn't want his taxes raised and does not want to
see terrorists appeased. I agree with all other positions of the
democratic party. I have explained this in many other posts. Do you
not know how to read?
Your shallow mind forgot the original "stupid statement", Ray, which
was that The Republicans and the supreme court appointed a President
who wasn't really who the PEOPLE wanted. Once that stupid statement
is made, Ray, then the logical question becomes: If Al Gore is the
person who the American People really wanted to be President when why
is he not running again? This time he can run under the new revised
rules that the Democrats now suddenly realize they want to have for
elections in Florida. The answer, Ray, is that its not about what the
PEOPLE want. Its about the democratic party playing games and
manipulating election results all while badmouthing Republicans. This
is precisely why I'm a democrat who isn't voting democratic these
days. If a true leader arises in the democratic party then I will
vote for him.
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 06 Jan 2004 10:44:01 PM
Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote...

Mark Fox <mark_fox_@yahoo.com> wrote:


If the American people wanted Al Gore as President then why is he not
running again?


Because the year is 2004 and not 2000.


If a man is electable then it matters not what year it is.


What a stupid statement.

No wonder you're a Republican.


What a stupid statement, Ray. I am not a Republican. I'm a middle
class democrat who doesn't want his taxes raised and does not want to
see terrorists appeased.

And the Republicans are raising everybody's taxes and are doing more
to promote worldwide terrorism that the Democrats ever did.

Your shallow mind forgot the original "stupid statement", Ray, which
was that The Republicans and the supreme court appointed a President
who wasn't really who the PEOPLE wanted. Once that stupid statement

It's "stupid" because you don't like it.

If Al Gore is the
person who the American People really wanted to be President when why
is he not running again?

Because, idiot, the year is no longer 2000. It's 2004.
Things change.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.







User: "TerryG"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 14 Dec 2003 06:02:50 PM
NICE TIMING, AL!!!! BUT THEN, YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A JOKE, AL.
(Craig Chilton) wrote in message news:<3fe79cee.29689603@netnews.mchsi.com>...

Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other) -- on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement
as the man to OUST Bush next year. This may be the key
advantage that Dean needs to ultimately sew up the nomination,
since he's already well ahead of the rest of the pack in Iowa and
New Hampshire... where the Caucus and Primary, respectively,
are now just a few weeks away!

If Dean beats Bush, the RRR cultists will be whining for years
as their hateful agendas against personal liberties spiral down into
extinction, and that'll be the BEST break Americans have gotten
since Clinton was still President!


-- Craig Chilton


.
User: "David Barnes"

Title: Re: Al Gore -- Our ELECTED President -- Endorses DEAN! 14 Dec 2003 09:45:47 PM
In article <7322e1ab.0312141602.540f8258@posting.google.com>, TerryG
<ritpg@hotmail.com> wrote:

NICE TIMING, AL!!!! BUT THEN, YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A JOKE, AL.

Another mature vote for Bush...



(Craig Chilton) wrote in message
news:<3fe79cee.29689603@netnews.mchsi.com>...

Al Gore... who handily won the popular vote for President in
2000 (and may well have won the Electoral vote as well, if Bush's
partisan cronies in the Supreme Court hadn't CHEATED the
American people out of ever knowing that for *sure*, one way
or the other) -- on December 7, 2003 gave DEAN his endorsement
as the man to OUST Bush next year. This may be the key
advantage that Dean needs to ultimately sew up the nomination,
since he's already well ahead of the rest of the pack in Iowa and
New Hampshire... where the Caucus and Primary, respectively,
are now just a few weeks away!

If Dean beats Bush, the RRR cultists will be whining for years
as their hateful agendas against personal liberties spiral down into
extinction, and that'll be the BEST break Americans have gotten
since Clinton was still President!


-- Craig Chilton


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