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User: "cub brave"
Date: 29 Oct 2006 10:34:04 AM
Object: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire?
"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord" wrote:

Praise the Lord and Good Morning, John.

"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:sL01h.11880$cz.190913@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...

Good morning Steve;

"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote in message
news:98e8k29u3stb5liuo3jia7t9j1vsi9cq02@4ax.com...

"\"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord\""
<nospam@bellsouth.net> spake thusly and wrote:

So this man has been tormenting people for a long time.
.....SO SAD!


See what a vicious pride engorged piece of scum that Robert
Taylor has become since his decent into sin?

Some times these false-christian dirt like Robert Taylor
say more about themselves by their own words than I ever could.

If you are a real Oneness Christian then Robert Taylor is not
your brother.

Anyone else notice any "changes" in Robert Taylor since
his descent into sin with Mark Bassett?

Let all real Christians join me in prayer that the Lord
would bring down the pompous, pride engorged elders in
the UPCI that are responsible for Ma rk Bassett being
licensed
to preach. Blood really is on their hands for the dimbulbs that
Bassett has deceived into sin with him.

The ignorant dimbulb Robert D. Taylor sold his soul
for the approval of the reprobate Mark Bassett!

See what Robert Taylor knowingly endorses and supports
at http://www.impsmail.org/bassett.html

See folks, the weak minded Robert Taylor, spiritual dimbulb,
decided to be neutral about sin (the sin of the reprobate Mark
Bassett) But just look at how quickly he has joined him in sin!


Do you realize the irony of your remark? Because so many tend to
reject your pastoral authority which you label as living in sin, one could
honestly say that Mr. Winter has almost as people living in sin after
meeting him than before. The exception of course is those who allow you
to control them and/or support your ministry, which is a rather small
group.

Excluding that small group, would it be a sin filled ministry?


WARNING!! You cannot be neutral about sin or you will end
up as some religious scum like Robert Taylor!


Gee Steve, how come is it that nearly everyone you take under your wing
becomes religious scum?


Those reprobate spiritual filth do not represent "Oneness"
except to testify to the backslidden and pride engorged
condition of some in UPCI leadership.


Gee Steve, how come is it that nearly everyone you take under your wing
becomes religious filth?


Let any real Christians also join with me in prayer that
Robert Taylor would be the last that reprobate Bassett
deceives into hell with him, and pray that the Lord
would reward Taylor according to his works lest he
deceive more souls into the sewer with him.

You cannot be "neutral" about sin!

Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon


Yeah, you get to hear more of the same terminology, including a
recommendation on cursing others in the name of Jesus.

Cheers,
John


John, for my part, I was never taken under Steve Winter's wing. Being naive
and thinking
this was a man of God ( Big Mistake) I e-mailed him and couple of times.
He seemed very courteous and polite, and me being new to Usenet, was not
aware of the
creeps that lurk out there.
Then he called my house, because he had some kind of deal, where he could
call all over
without having long distance on Friday nights. He called one night and my
wife talked with
Sister Nancy Winter. She is so polite and sweet. They spoke of children,
etc. I was working
that night. I can not remember all the details, but he told me about his
newsgroup and said he
was going to put me on it. I thought that would be nice to share. After I
got on it, there were
very few people on it and Steve Winter ruled. The best articles that were
written there were
by Nancy Winter.
Second or third phone call, I discerned the man. He began to bad mouth the
UPCI, etc, and I
discerned a deceitful spirit in him. I told my wife I did not want to go
any further communicating with
him. In the future, we did not answer the phone. The Lord showed me to
stay clear of him, because
he was the type that would divide the Body of Christ.
Then you know the rest of the story.....I spoke out against something he was
for and then I was kicked
off his forum, became pond scum, religious *****, and ignorant. All because,
I would not speak
evil against Bro. Mark Bassett.
I have been around long enough to know the deceiver.
To hate is not my nature nor the Nature of God. I would that Steve not hate
me, but I cannot help that.
He hurt me when he wrote outrageous things about me, then mailed them out
to my family, friends, and peers.
It only showed people what a nut he was......

Never under his wing, Friend...NEVER! If so, I would have been tainted the
rest of my days.

I told my wife I did not want to go

any further communicating with
him. In the future, we did not answer the phone. The Lord showed me to
stay clear of him, because
he was the type that would divide the Body of Christ.
Then you know the rest of the story.....I spoke out against something he was
for and then I was kicked
off his forum, became pond scum, religious *****, and ignorant.

Hello Robert,
If you had repeatedly called him, he would try and sue you for
stalking and harassment by wire.
BTW, I'm so glad that he can't pull these tricks today. It's also nice
to know that even the US federal courts are in our favor. He's had a
bad year, between losing in court(again), and the whole deal with his
family, and then zippyvideos.com and adultdatefinder.com, etc.
Goodbye, for now,
cub brave
.

User: "\Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 29 Oct 2006 12:33:56 PM
"cub brave" <cub.brave@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162139644.125330.14580@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...


"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord" wrote:

Praise the Lord and Good Morning, John.

"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:sL01h.11880$cz.190913@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...

Good morning Steve;

"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote in message
news:98e8k29u3stb5liuo3jia7t9j1vsi9cq02@4ax.com...

"\"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord\""
<nospam@bellsouth.net> spake thusly and wrote:

So this man has been tormenting people for a long time.
.....SO SAD!


See what a vicious pride engorged piece of scum that Robert
Taylor has become since his decent into sin?

Some times these false-christian dirt like Robert Taylor
say more about themselves by their own words than I ever could.

If you are a real Oneness Christian then Robert Taylor is not
your brother.

Anyone else notice any "changes" in Robert Taylor since
his descent into sin with Mark Bassett?

Let all real Christians join me in prayer that the Lord
would bring down the pompous, pride engorged elders in
the UPCI that are responsible for Ma rk Bassett being
licensed
to preach. Blood really is on their hands for the dimbulbs that
Bassett has deceived into sin with him.

The ignorant dimbulb Robert D. Taylor sold his soul
for the approval of the reprobate Mark Bassett!

See what Robert Taylor knowingly endorses and supports
at http://www.impsmail.org/bassett.html

See folks, the weak minded Robert Taylor, spiritual dimbulb,
decided to be neutral about sin (the sin of the reprobate Mark
Bassett) But just look at how quickly he has joined him in sin!


Do you realize the irony of your remark? Because so many tend to
reject your pastoral authority which you label as living in sin, one
could
honestly say that Mr. Winter has almost as people living in sin after
meeting him than before. The exception of course is those who allow
you
to control them and/or support your ministry, which is a rather small
group.

Excluding that small group, would it be a sin filled ministry?


WARNING!! You cannot be neutral about sin or you will end
up as some religious scum like Robert Taylor!


Gee Steve, how come is it that nearly everyone you take under your
wing
becomes religious scum?


Those reprobate spiritual filth do not represent "Oneness"
except to testify to the backslidden and pride engorged
condition of some in UPCI leadership.


Gee Steve, how come is it that nearly everyone you take under your
wing
becomes religious filth?


Let any real Christians also join with me in prayer that
Robert Taylor would be the last that reprobate Bassett
deceives into hell with him, and pray that the Lord
would reward Taylor according to his works lest he
deceive more souls into the sewer with him.

You cannot be "neutral" about sin!

Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon


Yeah, you get to hear more of the same terminology, including a
recommendation on cursing others in the name of Jesus.

Cheers,
John


John, for my part, I was never taken under Steve Winter's wing. Being
naive
and thinking
this was a man of God ( Big Mistake) I e-mailed him and couple of times.
He seemed very courteous and polite, and me being new to Usenet, was not
aware of the
creeps that lurk out there.
Then he called my house, because he had some kind of deal, where he could
call all over
without having long distance on Friday nights. He called one night and
my
wife talked with
Sister Nancy Winter. She is so polite and sweet. They spoke of
children,
etc. I was working
that night. I can not remember all the details, but he told me about his
newsgroup and said he
was going to put me on it. I thought that would be nice to share. After
I
got on it, there were
very few people on it and Steve Winter ruled. The best articles that
were
written there were
by Nancy Winter.
Second or third phone call, I discerned the man. He began to bad mouth
the
UPCI, etc, and I
discerned a deceitful spirit in him. I told my wife I did not want to go
any further communicating with
him. In the future, we did not answer the phone. The Lord showed me to
stay clear of him, because
he was the type that would divide the Body of Christ.
Then you know the rest of the story.....I spoke out against something he
was
for and then I was kicked
off his forum, became pond scum, religious *****, and ignorant. All
because,
I would not speak
evil against Bro. Mark Bassett.
I have been around long enough to know the deceiver.
To hate is not my nature nor the Nature of God. I would that Steve not
hate
me, but I cannot help that.
He hurt me when he wrote outrageous things about me, then mailed them
out
to my family, friends, and peers.
It only showed people what a nut he was......

Never under his wing, Friend...NEVER! If so, I would have been tainted
the
rest of my days.



I told my wife I did not want to go

any further communicating with
him. In the future, we did not answer the phone. The Lord showed me to
stay clear of him, because
he was the type that would divide the Body of Christ.
Then you know the rest of the story.....I spoke out against something he
was
for and then I was kicked
off his forum, became pond scum, religious *****, and ignorant.





Hello Robert,


If you had repeatedly called him, he would try and sue you for
stalking and harassment by wire.



BTW, I'm so glad that he can't pull these tricks today. It's also nice
to know that even the US federal courts are in our favor. He's had a
bad year, between losing in court(again), and the whole deal with his
family, and then zippyvideos.com and adultdatefinder.com, etc.


Goodbye, for now,


cub brave

What about the accusation, you old bearded goat!....
Zippyvideos.com and adultdatefinder.com........
Is that the kind of things your Winter Organization Condones? Steve
Winter you going to rot in hell, if you do not repent......;..
That makes me want to vomit to even print that mess......
.
User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 29 Oct 2006 09:13:35 PM
"\"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord\""
<nospam@bellsouth.net> spake thusly and wrote:

What about the accusation, you old bearded goat!....
************.com and *****************.com........
Is that the kind of things your Winter Organization Condones? Steve
Winter you going to rot in hell, if you do not repent......;..
That makes me want to vomit to even print that mess......

Ignorant filthy, reprobate pig, Robert Taylor, it didn't make
you vomit to advertise those websites world wide and promote
them just because you thought it would hurt me.
Is there no depth too low for Robert Taylor now? He is
willing to KNOWINGLY advertise filthy websites!!!
I really think that you would kiss the devil himself
on the lips if you thought it might harm me.
Just look what a filthy, low down, hypocrite Robert Taylor
has become since his decent into sin with reprobate Bassett!
Some times these false-christian dirt like Robert Taylor
say more about themselves by their own words than I ever could.
If you are a real Oneness Christian then Robert Taylor is not
your brother.
Anyone else notice any "changes" in Robert Taylor since
his descent into sin with Mark Bassett?
Let all real Christians join me in prayer that the Lord
would bring down the pompous, pride engorged elders in
the UPCI that are responsible for Mark Bassett being licensed
to preach. Blood really is on their hands for the dimbulbs that
Bassett has deceived into sin with him.
The ignorant dimbulb Robert D. Taylor sold his soul
for the approval of the reprobate Mark Bassett!
See what Robert Taylor knowingly endorses and supports
at http://www.impsmail.org/bassett.html
See folks, the weak minded Robert Taylor, spiritual dimbulb,
decided to be neutral about sin (the sin of the reprobate Mark
Bassett) But just look at how quickly he has joined him in sin!
WARNING!! You cannot be neutral about sin or you will end
up as some religious scum like Robert Taylor!
Those reprobate spiritual filth do not represent "Oneness"
except to testify to the backslidden and pride engorged
condition of some in UPCI leadership.
Let any real Christians also join with me in prayer that
Robert Taylor would be the last that reprobate Bassett
deceives into hell with him, and pray that the Lord
would reward Taylor according to his works lest he
deceive more souls into the sewer with him.
You cannot be "neutral" about sin! Just look what
a filthy disgrace Robert Taylor has become.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
.
User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Look what Robert Taylor has become because of sin 30 Oct 2006 10:16:44 AM
"\"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord\""
<nospam@bellsouth.net> spake thusly and wrote:

I really think that you would kiss the devil himself
on the lips if you thought it might harm me.


No way, if he has a beard like you! You know don't you Winter...
You have to have kissed him. It is evident that the devil is your bed
partner.

Snipped filth of the manure spreader.

It is sad, even pathetic what Robert Taylor has become since
his decent into sin with Mark Bassett.
Let us remember that just a short time ago Robert Taylor, while
not a particularly intelligent man, was a faithful Christian.
But Robert decided that he would simply be neutral regarding
Mark Bassett's sinful life and the sin in the UPCI.
Some times these false-christian dirt like Robert Taylor
say more about themselves by their own words than I ever could.
If you are a real Oneness Christian then Robert Taylor is not
your brother.
Anyone else notice any "changes" in Robert Taylor since
his descent into sin with Mark Bassett?
Let all real Christians join me in prayer that the Lord
would bring down the pompous, pride engorged elders in
the UPCI that are responsible for Mark Bassett being licensed
to preach. Blood really is on their hands for the dimbulbs that
Bassett has deceived into sin with him.
The ignorant dimbulb Robert D. Taylor sold his soul
for the approval of the reprobate Mark Bassett!
See what Robert Taylor knowingly endorses and supports
at http://www.impsmail.org/bassett.html
See folks, the weak minded Robert Taylor, spiritual dimbulb,
decided to be neutral about sin (the sin of the reprobate Mark
Bassett) But just look at how quickly he has joined him in sin!
WARNING!! You cannot be neutral about sin or you will end
up as some religious scum like Robert Taylor!
Those reprobate spiritual filth do not represent "Oneness"
except to testify to the backslidden and pride engorged
condition of some in UPCI leadership.
Let any real Christians also join with me in prayer that
Robert Taylor would be the last that reprobate Bassett
deceives into hell with him, and pray that the Lord
would reward Taylor according to his works lest he
deceive more souls into the sewer with him.
You cannot be "neutral" about sin!
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
.

User: "Dave"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 29 Oct 2006 10:01:22 PM
Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

"\"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord\""
<nospam@bellsouth.net> spake thusly and wrote:

What about the accusation, you old bearded goat!....
************.com and *****************.com........

As usual, Winter is a mass of hysteria as entertainment...and
hypocrisy. Not too long ago, he berated another person for satirizing
him and, in so doing, changing quoted material to something that wasn't
really in the quote.
Here, he changes quoted material into something that really isn't in
the quote. So he's guilty by his own standards.
Hold not thy breath waiting for him to own up to it or admit it...

Is that the kind of things your Winter Organization Condones? Steve
Winter you going to rot in hell, if you do not repent......;..
That makes me want to vomit to even print that mess......


Ignorant filthy, reprobate pig, Robert Taylor, it didn't make
you vomit to advertise those websites world wide and promote
them just because you thought it would hurt me.

I continue to be gratified that my point about the insincerity and
phoniness of Usenet "Christians" continues to be evidenced without
having to do anything. I mean, just "feel the love," eh?

Is there no depth too low for Robert Taylor now? He is
willing to KNOWINGLY advertise filthy websites!!!

I really think that you would kiss the devil himself
on the lips if you thought it might harm me.

Just look what a filthy, low down, hypocrite Robert Taylor
has become since his decent into sin with reprobate Bassett!

Some times these false-christian dirt like Robert Taylor
say more about themselves by their own words than I ever could.

And yet, Winter still sees the need to tell us about it, over and over
again, and even telling us, over and over again, that his enemies "say
more about themselves by their own words than I ever could."

If you are a real Oneness Christian then Robert Taylor is not
your brother.

And if you are a True Scotsman, then Josef Stalin is not your
brother...

Anyone else notice any "changes" in Robert Taylor since
his descent into sin with Mark Bassett?

Let all real Christians join me in prayer that the Lord
would bring down the pompous, pride engorged elders in
the UPCI that are responsible for Mark Bassett being licensed
to preach.

Which reminds me...even after all these years, "Pastor" Winter won't
tell us where he got *his* ordination...

...Blood really is on their hands for the dimbulbs that
Bassett has deceived into sin with him.

Feel the love.
[Snip]
.


User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 05 Nov 2006 12:11:00 PM
On 29-Oct-2006, "\"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord\""
<nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote:

What about the accusation, you old bearded goat!....
Zippyvideos.com and adultdatefinder.com........
Is that the kind of things your Winter Organization Condones?

Yes Robert, steves hesitation in removing his videos was more
a calculated business move that was forced upon him, than a move out
of spiritual conviction. It is my belief, based upon steves actions,
that he had previous knowledge of the porn problem at zippys,
though I do not believe he had viewed it firsthand. I saw it firsthand
after Cub brought it to my attention, but I had to ask for help in how
to relax my browser settings in thunderbird. The porn was definately
there.

Steve
Winter you going to rot in hell, if you do not repent......

Steebie has already crossed that line headlong into religious apostasy.

That makes me want to vomit to even print that mess......

I would appreciate it if you wouldn't do that ! I'm eating a late
breakfast, and I've had enough to contend with, what with Mary
trying to talk to me about our pets bloody stool while I was
attempting to eat the evening meal last night. What is it with
some of you people, anyway ? You bring up the grossest of
subjects while a person is trying to eat !
Rod
.
User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 05 Nov 2006 01:46:06 PM
"Rod" <freelance74601@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:

Yes Robert, steves hesitation in removing his videos was more
a calculated business move that was forced upon him,

You lying piece of trash! Remember, "Rod", the Bible compares
you to a dog eating its own vomit.
2 Peter 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true
proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow
that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
.
User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 05 Nov 2006 03:28:27 PM
On 5-Nov-2006, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote:

Yes Robert, steves hesitation in removing his videos was more
a calculated business move that was forced upon him,


You lying piece of trash!

Hit a nerve, did I ? Just a little touchy, aren't we ? I've had YOUR
number for quite little while though, Steve, and your actions tell
the truth when your lips continue to deny it. Thats the amazing thing
about a liar such as you, and the public can appreciate that !
I am going to prophesy for you.....(right hand to forhead....) I forsee
steve winter saying uncomplimentary things about me.....such rage...
<smile>
Rod
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User: "Quartus, a brother"

Title: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 09 Nov 2006 04:37:34 PM
Most here know that I do not believe Steve Winter is a christian at all,
but rather a blasphemer of Jesus Christ. His deeds and fruit show no
evidence whatsoever of Godliness, his gospel is based upon the work of
baptism, is devoid of repentance, and his teachings blaspheme Jesus
Christ, the Incarnate Man.
My purpose in this my posting is to draw a stark contrast between the
true gospel and commensurate impeccable walk of Jesus Christ, and the
false gospel and commensurate evil walk of Steve Winter.
-----------------
To put what I have to say in perspective, let me summarize some history.
Most will remember that a regular poster here by the name of Rod some
time ago became a professed believer of Steve Winter's gospel, and
professed to be a Christian. Rod then got involved in a local church and
after some time began to (rightly) question some of Steve Winter's
behavior, and to challenge him. (Of late Rod has said he is no longer a
Christian, or at least is not sure.)
Steve Winter has lately reacted to Rod by posting the following in
various posts:
"You are an ignorant, bumbling, obsessed pig, Rod."
"You are prating fool now Rod, a sick, pathetic excuse for a man."
"God calls you a dog turned again to its own vomit, Rod."
"Know, little scum, that there is a preacher praying for"
the Lord to reward you according to your works."
"You are a filthy piece of scum Rod, and a sleazy liar."
"You are a pride engorged lying pig now Rod"
"Your [sic] wallowing in sin is affecting your mind Judas... er
I mean "Rod"."
And this last statement of Steve Winter in particular struck me:
"I have prayed for you Rod, that the Lord would either bring you
back in or get you out of the way."
Now I'm not quite sure what "get you out of the way" entails, but since
Steve Winter also posts that he prays "for the Lord to reward you
according to your works", it sounds rather ominous, and, at the least,
it sounds like desiring something bad to happen to Rod. (God forbid it!)
Now I am particularly struck by the contrast of Jesus Christ to Steve
Winter. My Savior, Jesus Christ, when He knew that Peter would deny Him
(something far worse than Rod ever did to Steve Winter) what does *He*
do? Does He pray for God to 'get Peter out of the way'? Does He pray for
God to 'reward Peter according to his works'? Does He call Peter a scum,
a pig, a dog, a prating fool, and Judas?
NO! Precious Savior! Hear *His* words and prayer for Peter: "but I have
prayed for you, that your faith may not fail; and you, when once you
have turned again, strengthen your brothers." Like 22:32
How in keeping with the character of the true Shepherd, the true Pastor,
was *His* prayer for Peter. He who is our great Intercessor before God
(not our accuser and name caller) loves His sheep dearly, even the ones
who fail and deny Him.
Rod, I trust that you will know the never wavering love of the Lord
Jesus Christ for you! There are those of us here praying _for_ you, like
Jesus did for Peter, and not against you like Steve Winter does.
I am assured our prayers will prevail, just as Jesus' prayer for Peter
did! God richly bless you, Rod.
With Christ's Love, Quartus, a brother.
.
User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 09 Nov 2006 06:59:26 PM
"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_spam@yahoo.com> spake
thusly and wrote:

Most here know that I do not believe Steve Winter is a christian at all,
but rather a blasphemer of Jesus Christ.

If an accursed devilish scum like Charles "Quartus" Stanley
approved of me I would fear for my soul. He is just obsessed
with attacking me because he can't begin to defend the stupid
false-christian garbage he believes against a real preacher.
Let the reader consider one thing. When the filthy
false-christian dirt Charles"Quartus" Stanley posts anything,
even scripture, he is serving the devil trying to convince you
that you don't need to follow the original plan of salvation.
You Oneness brethren need to understand the evil that these filth
like Charles Stanley are doing. They are deceiving souls into
hell. The Bible has instructed us to curse such deceiving scum
as Charles Stanley.
Join with me in obedience to Gal 1:8 regarding Charles Stanley
AND the filthy preachers that created such a foul Satanic scum.
Tell us again how you believe fornication equals marriage,
Charles Stanley!
Tell us again how you support Robert Taylor for advocating child
abuse, Charles Stanley. Tell us again how you believe that a man
punching a 14 year old girl in the face is not abuse if it only
happened once.
Tell us again, Charles Stanley, how you support Stephen Adams for
trying to help child porn publishers while you attack me falsely
for simply reporting the crime.
Tell us again Charles Stanley how the woman at the well was not
living in sin with a man not married to her.
Yes, Charles Stanley, keep sharing the thoughts of your heart
so all can see what a low life, foul, lying, Satanic
false-christian scum Charles "Quartus" Stanley really is.
Pastor Winter
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 01:37:32 AM
Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org>, the operator of the
machine that doesnæt do much, chatted:

FUCKING SLEAZE-***** If an accursed devilish scum FUCKING ***** like
Charles "Quartus" Stanley approved FUCKING MERRY-LEGS of me I would
fear FUCKING DUMBBELL for my soul. He FUCKING ANAL DANCE is just
obsessed with attacking FUCKING TART DUMBASS me because he can't begin
FUCKING DEVIANT CHOC JOCK ***** UP to defend the stupid false-christian
FUCKING MUSCLE FUCKER ARSEFACE ERECTION TART garbage he believes
against a FUCKING DIARRHOEA FACE DUDES BLOOD WEEK BOWEL ***** real
preacher. BUM BANDIT ***** ***** ***** VAGINA DONKEY ***** MINGE SLAPPER
QUIM SPUNK
FUCKING FUCKFACE BOX BUSTER Let the reader consider one FUCKING
BUTT-CRACK ARSE-BOY thing. When the filthy FUCKING BLADDER
false-christian dirt Charles"Quartus" Stanley posts FUCKING LOVE
TORPEDO *****-SELLER anything, even scripture, he is FUCKING CLOTPOLE
*****-DEEP serving the devil trying to FUCKING QUEER convince you that
you don't FUCKING GUTTER ***** ***** HYMEN HAMMER need to follow the
original FUCKING KNEE TREMBLER BUM BASHER plan of salvation. *****
CUNNY-CATCHER ***** YOU SCROTUM ***** *****
FUCKING JEW You Oneness brethren need to understand FUCKING ***** POLE
SEX PISTOL the evil that these filth like FUCKING ABDOMEN CLITTY
Charles Stanley are doing. They FUCKING BAZOOMS BUTT SNORT are
deceiving souls into hell. FUCKING ***** BUDDY The Bible has
instructed us to FUCKING BUTT PIRATE curse such deceiving scum as
Charles FUCKING KNOB HOSE BAG Stanley. GAY ***** SHITE ***** BOLLOCKS
PUBES ***** ***** SCRAPER CRABS
FUCKING SPUNK SPITTER Join with me in obedience FUCKING FREAKFACE FOOL
to Gal 1:8 regarding Charles FUCKING ***** Stanley AND the filthy
preachers FUCKING BROTHEL-KEEPER GIZZARD that created such a foul
FUCKING BUTT PEDDLER BUTT BANGING Satanic scum. ***** SCRAPER FELCH
CRAP AXE WOUND FILTHY SHITTER ORGASM ***** QUIM MINGE
FUCKING LOVE LENGTH Tell us again how you believe FUCKING SHEEP FUCKER
fornication equals marriage, Charles Stanley! ***** FACTORY VIRGIN *****
ANAL HOMO SWING BOTH WAYS SLAPPER TWAT
FUCKING BITCHIN' Tell us again how you support FUCKING FLOOZY Robert
Taylor for advocating child abuse, FUCKING BOX BUSTER BABOON JEW
FARTHEAD Charles Stanley. Tell us again FUCKING SNATCH-PEDDLER NYMPHO
ARSE BLADDER HARDASS BEAN QUEEN how you believe that a man FUCKING
CUNTBUBBLE SPEW DOGS PIECE-OF-TAIL punching a 14 year old girl FUCKING
ASSWIPE CABBAGE HEAD BIKINI-STUFFERS PUSSYLIPS DICKSMACK BLOOD SWORD
in the face is not abuse FUCKING BOSOMS ***** ANT if it only happened
once. MINGE ***** SCRAPER BREASTS ***** SCRUBBER *****
FUCKING BIMBO Tell us again, Charles Stanley, how FUCKING BLIND SNAKE
you support Stephen Adams for trying FUCKING ANAL INTERCOURSE to help
child porn publishers while FUCKING BUM FIDDLE HANDFUCKER JIZZ QUEEN
DAMN ARSE-BANDIT FLOPPERS you attack me falsely for simply FUCKING
LOVE WAND reporting the crime. GOLDEN SHOWER JACKASS ***** GASH BULL
***** *****-STIRRER BITE
FUCKING FAMILY JEWELS RAPE Tell us again Charles Stanley how FUCKING
SNATCH-PEDDLER CHODE DOCTOR HYMEN HAMMER ***** the woman at the well
was FUCKING ***** not living in sin with a FUCKING BELLY-BUMP
NYMPHO man not married to her. KNOB FLAPS NIPPLE ***** LABIA
FUCKING FLAT-FLOOSIE BLACK MEAT GUMBOIL ***** BLASTER Yes, Charles
Stanley, keep sharing FUCKING WART FERAL ***** the thoughts of your
heart FUCKING BITCHED CUSTARD CANNON so all can see what FUCKING FERAL
***** a low life, foul, lying, FUCKING COMMERCIAL BEAVER BUTT HAIR
Satanic false-christian scum Charles "Quartus" FUCKING ***** DIVER
***** FACE Stanley really is. GAYLORD STAB HERPES *****-STICKER
***** CARNAL MEMBER BUTTHEAD BUM DOUBLE D'S ***** PUPPET Pastor
Winter FLAPS ORGASM PUBES CUNNILINGUS ***** FACTORY SWING BOTH WAYS
***** HOMO FANNY JACKASS

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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 10:10:47 AM
"Pastor Steve Winter" <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prim3.urg> spake thusly
and wrote:

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Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org>, the operator of the
machine that doesnæt do much, chatted:

Pretty clear where this criminal activity, malicious
impersonation and electronic stalking is coming from.
Does octanews.net endorse forgery like this?
Pastor Winter
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 09:58:57 AM
It would appear that this recent forgery came from scum in North
Carolina which may make criminal action worthwhile.
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and wrote:

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From: "Pastor Steve Winter" <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prim3.urg>
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Anyone who can read a header should be able to see the source of
this criminal activity.
Pastor Winter
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http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
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User: "Quartus, a brother"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 08:56:20 AM
Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_spam@yahoo.com> spake
thusly and wrote:


Most here know that I do not believe Steve Winter is a christian at all,
but rather a blasphemer of Jesus Christ.



If an accursed devilish scum like Charles "Quartus" Stanley
approved of me I would fear for my soul. He is just obsessed
with attacking me because he can't begin to defend the stupid
false-christian garbage he believes against a real preacher.

I was not attacking _you_, Steve. I merely drew a contrast between your
behavior and Christ's behavior. They are not compatible.
The fruit we produce is what confirms whether we are followers of Jesus
Christ or impostors. "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a
bad tree bears bad fruit." (Matthew 7:17)
I have examined Jesus' fruit and found it to be good. I have examined
your fruit, Steve, and found it to be rotten. "You will know them by
their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from
thistles?" (Matthew 7:16) There are no grapes or figs to be gathered
from you or your "ministry" Steve.
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but
inwardly they are ravenous wolves." (Matthew 7:15) That's you Steve, a
ravenous wolf who would devour Rod (and anyone who admonishes or removes
the sheeps clothing from you).
"Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance" (Matthew 3:8) Therein lies
your problem, Steve; There's no repentance in your gospel and
consequently no fruit. Yours is a false gospel of baptism with signs and
wonders because it ignores what Peter explicitly prefaced the baptism
with, namely "Repent..." (Acts 2:38)
You are a "real preacher" of another gospel, a gospel which you daily
prove to be fruitless. However, if you obey Acts 2:38, Peter's word to
first repent, there is no doubt that you can and will produce fruits
worthy of repentance.
Quartus, a brother, but not your brother.
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 10:02:20 AM
"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_spam@yahoo.com> spake
thusly and wrote:

I was not attacking _you_, Steve. I merely drew a contrast between your
behavior and Christ's behavior. They are not compatible.

Jesus Christ called scum like Charles "Quartus" Stanley names
like "scum". I have shown you this repeatedly.
I believe that some of you folks have some serious misconceptions
about the Lord of the Bible, who was the perfect example for the
Christian..
I Peter 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ
also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should
follow his steps:
I Peter 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his
mouth:
I Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he
suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that
judgeth righteously:
But let us also look at a particular situation that shows us the
Lord exhibiting unusual behaviour; and that is, when he
encountered false preachers, false religionists, deceivers like
Charles "Quartus" Stanley!
Matthew 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can
ye escape the damnation of hell?
Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear
beautiful outward, but are within full of dead [men's] bones, and
of all uncleanness.
Looking carefully at verse 27. In our modern language "full of
dead men's bones and all uncleanliness" would roughly translate
as the modern term "scum". That tells me that if the Lord was
walking our streets today and encountered a denominal trinitarian
preacher like Charles "Quartus" Stanley, that He would call
him/her/it "scum", "snake", "hypocrite".
"Love incarnate" didn't coddle false preachers. The Apostle Paul
instructs us should we encounter anyone like Charles "Quartus"
Stanley preaching other than the original Acts 2:38 message:
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any
other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be accursed.
(Read Acts Chapter 19, if you have any doubts that Paul adhered
to the Acts 2:38 re-birth of WATER and SPIRIT.)
Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ? If
he's like the filthy "Quartus" and not preaching the Acts 2:38
Apostolic message, He sure would!
I hope this helps.
Pastor sTeve Winter
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Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
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User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 19 Nov 2006 06:02:01 PM
On 10-Nov-2006, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote:

Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ?

Uh huh, right......you've fallen short of 1Peter 2:23 by reviling,
threatening ( lawsuits, account cancellations, calling employers,
LYING bigtime !, and hurling nice little ephitets all around usenet).
BTW, I sent you an email from your webpage, aren't you supposed
to have my account cancelled, or threaten to sue me or "something" ?
I Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he
suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that
judgeth righteously:
Rod
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So Steve...how much did you get from Netcom ? Or was the case simply
dismissed as you were laughed out of court ??
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User: "Quartus, a brother"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 01:02:47 PM
Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

Jesus Christ called scum like Charles "Quartus" Stanley names
like "scum". I have shown you this repeatedly.

And thus you seek to put yourself on the same level as Jesus Christ. But
rather, you attempt to drag the Sinless One down into the muck of sin in
which you wallow, Steve.

Would Jesus Christ call you and/or your preacher "scum" ? If
he's like the filthy "Quartus" and not preaching the Acts 2:38
Apostolic message, He sure would!

I preach the Acts 2:38 message, Steve! Repentance, baptism, and being
filled with the Spirit!
The difference between the Acts 2:38 message I preach and the one you
preach is that I preach Peter's _whole_ message of Acts 2:38, beginning
with repentance.
Your gospel skips the repentance of Acts 2:38 and goes straight for the
water baptism and "tongues". This flaw in your gospel becomes obvious by
the abject lack of fruit in your life.
"I know WHOM I have believed" (2 Timothy 1:12), not WHAT I have
believed. I know I have the approbation of Him Whom I have believed.
You know WHAT you have believed (water baptism, speaking in tongues),
but you have not believed in Him, for He behaved nothing like you do, Steve.
Quartus, a brother, but not your brother
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 07:57:57 PM
"Quartus, a brother" <quartus_a_brother_no_spam@yahoo.com> spake
thusly and wrote:

The difference between the Acts 2:38 message I preach and the one you
preach is that I preach Peter's _whole_ message of Acts 2:38, beginning
with repentance.

What a filthy liar this accursed trinity scum Charles "Quartus"
Stanley has become! These Satanic slime will say anything!
Let the reader consider one thing. When the filthy
false-christian dirt Charles Stanley posts any scripture he is
like the devil trying to convince you that you don't need to
follow the original plan of salvation.
You Oneness brethren need to understand the evil that these filth
like Charles Stanley are doing. They are deceiving souls into
hell. The Bible has instructed us to curse such deceiving scum
as Charles Stanley.
Join with me in obedience to Gal 1:8 regarding Charles Stanley
AND the filthy preachers that created such a foul Satanic scum.
Tell us again how you believe fornication equals marriage,
Charles
Stanley!
Tell us again how you support Robert Taylor for advocating child
abuse, Charles Stanley. Tell us again how you believe that a man
punching a 14 year old girl in the face is not abuse if it only
happened once.
Tell us again, Charles Stanley, how you support Stephen Adams for
trying to help child porn publishers while you attack me falsely
for simply reporting the crime.
Tell us again Charles Stanley how the woman at the well was not
living in sin with a man not married to her.
Yes, Charles Stanley, keep sharing the thoughts of your heart
so all can see what a low life, foul, lying, Satanic
false-christian scum Charles Stanley really is.
Pastor Winter
--
Apostolic Oneness Pentecostal /*/ PreRapture Ministry
http://www.apostolic.biz for Bible studies (text and audio)
Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
http://tinyurl.com/mxu7o for trinity is antichrist sermon
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User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 10:42:58 PM
On 10-Nov-2006, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote:
You Oneness brethren need to understand that steve winter is NOY annointed
by
God ! Steve is a self appointed pastor whos fruit does not reflect that
which it should,
and you NEED to follow a real leader and leave this guy in the dust !
Rod
--
"Pastor" Winter whines and manages to wheeze out:

No has not you lying piece of gutless anon false-christian net
trash. Just because you believe his lies does not make them
true.
Is it not God who calls men to preach ?
Pastor Winter

"Men" sure....but what's that got to do with you?
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 11:35:34 PM
"Rod" <freelance74601@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:


You Oneness brethren need to understand that steve winter

They are supposed to listen to a gutless, slimy, pride engorged
backslider that the Bible compares to a dog eating its own
vomit like Rod?
Pastor Winter
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User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 11 Nov 2006 09:08:47 AM
On 10-Nov-2006, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote:

They are supposed to listen to a gutless, slimy, pride engorged
backslider that the Bible compares to a dog eating its own
vomit like Rod?

Thats okay steve. Why would I want to continue following and worshipping
a god that acts just like you ?
Basics 101 steve, the fruit is either good or bad. A person can be
labelled
as antichrist without all the name calling, simply by saying it. But you
steve,
you enjoy abusing, I can tell by the words you choose to use and the
manner
in which you use them. Christ has not stated that you have His authority
to abuse
those not of His flock. Instead, He calls them to Himself that they might
have salvation,
and you cannot attract the lost if you're trying to beat the hell out of
them as they
approach the sound of your voice !
Get a life steve...
Rod
--
"Pastor" Winter whines and manages to wheeze out:

No has not you lying piece of gutless anon false-christian net
trash. Just because you believe his lies does not make them
true.
Is it not God who calls men to preach ?
Pastor Winter

"Men" sure....but what's that got to do with you?
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User: "Quartus, a brother"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 10 Nov 2006 07:07:17 PM
Steve Winter wrote:

He would call him/her/it "scum", "snake", "hypocrite".

And while you're busy putting words into the mouth of the Lord Jesus,
Steve, let's not forget the following invective you routinely use and
justify:

ignorant, bumbling, obsessed pig
prating fool
a dog
little scum
filthy piece of scum
pride engorged lying pig
ignorant, obsessed, pride engorged scum
despicable, pathetic excuse for a man

etc.
But this occasion affords us another opportunity to compare your
behavior again, Steve, this time to a man mightly used of God.
Since you consider yourself a "real preacher", and a "pastor", a man of
who has published a book of his "wisdom", a self-proclaimed leader of a
church, let's be compare you to a man who also led company of God's
people with true wisdom (and grace). Let's examine his behavior and
compare it to yours. We can do this comparison confidently using this
man as an example, because he was a man of whom God said that He spoke
"face to face, as a man speaketh unto his _friend_." Moreover, God also
said of this great leader, "With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even
apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD
shall he behold". There's no question then that this man was approved of
God. But even more, of this man it was said, "Now the man ... was very
meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth." What an
excellent quality to possess as a leader of God's people!
The first thing I think we can compare is this man's opinion of himself
to your opinion of yourself. When God called this man to His service did
the man say, 'I'm a real preacher'? like you call yourself, Steve? Look
what he said: "O my LORD, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor
since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of
a slow tongue." How instructive! This was a man of _humility_, and that
not of the words of his own mouth, but evidenced in his _behavior_.
Another comparison would be to observe how this man behaved towards
those he was called to lead. All that invective of yours above quoted,
Steve, are your words specifically to Rod, a man who you were the leader
of. Now that he has strayed from you, has questioned your authority,
those reviling words are an example of your leadership behavior. You've
even implored God to "remove him [Rod] out of the way". Is this how
God's approved servants are to behave? Let's see.
This other leader I am speaking of had similar problems. His authority
was also questioned on more than one occasion, but one example will
suffice. Some people he was leading rebelled against him too. Therefore
we can compare his behavior to yours and see if they are similar. If
they are, then we can say with confidence that you also, Steve, are a
servant of God, a leader.
Here's what those who rebelled against this man said: "Hath the LORD
indeed spoken only by...[you]? hath he not spoken also by us?" That
sounds like a challenge to the authority of this leader. I think perhaps
at this point, if this man behaved like you, he'd be praying for God to
remove these people out of the way, or at the least, asking God to
reward them according to their works, as you do.
Let's continue. "And the LORD heard it". Yes, He heard it just like he
heard everything Rod has said about you. So then, what was the
consequence of their challenging God chosen leader; what was the
outcome? "and, behold, ...[one of the challengers] became leprous, white
as snow". After reading your words above I cannot but conclude that if
some bad thing happened to Rod, you'd find satisfaction in it, and
perhaps, humanly speaking, we might believe that this leader also found
satisfaction in what happened to his challenger, (though, up to this
point, he has been silent).
But let's not to speculate as to what this leader might be thinking or
praying, but examine what the scriptures have recorded of his response
to this challenge, and see if it compares to what you have done, Steve.
Let's see:
"And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech
thee."
Now that is amazing! Moses said not one thing, not even a single
negative thing. No, instead he became an intercessor before God for
Miriam! Now *that* is a true leader after the heart of God, for the
blessed Lord Jesus is also an intercessor: For Peter he prayed to God,
and I know for me too He intercedes daily for my failures.
Sadly then, Steve, we must conclude that you are no leader at all; not
Moses-like nor Christ-like.
But know this: There are those praying _for_ you (not _against_ you),
that God may shine in that darkened heart of yours with the glorious
gospel of His _grace_, for, "_grace_ and truth came by Jesus Christ",
and not the gospel of Steve Winter.
It all begins by obeying Acts 2:38, "Repent..."
Quartus, a brother, but not your brother.
Please see Numbers 12 for the entire story of Moses referenced.
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User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ, not by Steve Winter 09 Nov 2006 06:43:23 PM
I don't know what to say !? The Love I feel coming from this post
and hear in the words has overwhelmed me. My mom once told
me that the very best thank you is the sound of silence............
Rod
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"Pastor" Winter whines and manages to wheeze out:

No has not you lying piece of gutless anon false-christian net
trash. Just because you believe his lies does not make them
true.
Is it not God who calls men to preach ?
Pastor Winter

"Men" sure....but what's that got to do with you?
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 05 Nov 2006 03:54:02 PM
What is interesting is that the low life scum at usenet.com allow
scum like Rod and other filth, but then the would censor my
reply.
Pastor Winter
"Rod" <freelance74601@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:


On 5-Nov-2006, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote:

Yes Robert, steves hesitation in removing his videos was more
a calculated business move that was forced upon him,


You lying piece of trash!



Hit a nerve, did I ? Just a little touchy, aren't we ? I've had YOUR
number for quite little while though, Steve, and your actions tell
the truth when your lips continue to deny it. Thats the amazing thing
about a liar such as you, and the public can appreciate that !

I am going to prophesy for you.....(right hand to forhead....) I forsee
steve winter saying uncomplimentary things about me.....such rage...
<smile>



Rod

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User: "Rod"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 05 Nov 2006 04:44:45 PM
On 5-Nov-2006, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote:

What is interesting is that the low life scum at usenet.com allow
scum like Rod and other filth, but then the would censor my
reply.

Pastor Winter

You are such an underhanded character ! Your ministry doesn't have a
chance
for survival with you working for it !!!! How downright mean and arnery
you are...
you've actually hit a new low for the human race ! I'll bet that Christ
Himself
is nearly redfaced and embarrassed by your sleazy and underhanded tactics
!!
And YOU have wanted ME to return to your FOLD ???? Hahahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahahahahahaha !!
Leaving your little internet church was like being freed from hell by
Christ Himself !! Fred
Phelps doesn't have ANYTHING on YOU Steebie ! Perhaps you should allow a
real
annointed man of God to lead your ministry so that what work you
accomplish might
be seen as profitable, and not as annoying..........
Rod
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User: "Pogo"

Title: Re: Am I reading this right? Was Puster Winter stalking you and your family by wire? 29 Oct 2006 08:32:21 PM
On 29-Oct-2006, "\"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord\""
<nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote:

What about the accusation, you old bearded goat!....
Zippyvideos.com and adultdatefinder.com........
Is that the kind of things your Winter Organization Condones?

It's true, Robert. I saw it with my own eyes. Winter had no idea
that naked females were on the site as he keeps his browser settings
at maximum as do i. Pornography cannot be viewed with these settings,
BUT he DID know that porn was available on these sites, AND he did
business with them KNOWING that !

Steve
Winter you going to rot in hell, if you do not repent......;..

Sheol. We'll all be in the grave soon enough.....

That makes me want to vomit to even print that mess......

Then picture what life is like with steebie day in and day out !
Pogo
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Robert Taylor and cowardboi promoting porn site 01 Nov 2006 11:19:46 AM
"Pogo" <pogo@rocketmail.com> spake thusly and wrote:


It's true, Robert. I saw it with my own eyes. Winter had no idea
that naked females were on the site as he keeps his browser settings
at maximum as do i.

Not totally true. The site in question advertised that they
did not allow porn and I made the honest mistake of believing
them. When a credible individual advised me of the situation
regarding their advertising (and not the lying cowards etc). I
removed all of our videos (quite some time ago).
However, scum like Cowardboi and even the reprobate scum Robert
Taylor continue to publish the URL of the site world wide to try
to harm me. I made an honest mistake and corrected it promptly.
These scum like Robert Taylor and the gutless anon coward boi
DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY have given the site free world wide
advertising. I believe these slime would sink to any depth and
even kiss the devil on the mouth if they thought it would harm
me.
So the offensive website has benefited far more from unethical
incompetent scum like Robert Taylor and the filthy coward boi
KNOWINGLY promoting their website.
Pastor Winter
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User: "cub brave"

Title: Why is Puster Winter lying about being involved with adultdatefinder.com? 01 Nov 2006 11:31:56 PM
Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

"Pogo" <pogo@rocketmail.com> spake thusly and wrote:


It's true, Robert. I saw it with my own eyes. Winter had no idea
that naked females were on the site as he keeps his browser settings
at maximum as do i.


Not totally true. The site in question advertised that they
did not allow porn and I made the honest mistake of believing
them. When a credible individual advised me of the situation
regarding their advertising (and not the lying cowards etc). I
removed all of our videos (quite some time ago).

However, scum like Cowardboi and even the reprobate scum Robert
Taylor continue to publish the URL of the site world wide to try
to harm me. I made an honest mistake and corrected it promptly.

These scum like Robert Taylor and the gutless anon coward boi
DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY have given the site free world wide
advertising. I believe these slime would sink to any depth and
even kiss the devil on the mouth if they thought it would harm
me.

So the offensive website has benefited far more from unethical
incompetent scum like Robert Taylor and the filthy coward boi
KNOWINGLY promoting their website.

Pastor Winter
--

Due to my intricate involvment in uncovering this scandal, I feel I
must bring the facts out ONE MORE TIME!
Here's the deal, I was first advised that Puster Winter was uploading
videos to www.zippyvideos.com by simply reading one of his posts where
he was bragging about having his "videos" on this filthy website.
Now, after reviewing www.zippyvideos.com, I found many pornographic
videos that were right there next to his "videos". I then sounded the
alarm and then the fireworks started! You see, Puster did not want to
take his videos down at first, so I investigated the matter a little
further. Upon further investigation, I found that the sponsors for his
videos were www.adultdatefinder.com. The sleazy part was that when you
pulled up his videos, you also had to look at his
sponsor(www.adultdatefinder.com). Right by Puster Winter's picture were
NAKED women ALL OVER the webpage. Now "Pogo" has his facts wrong.
Puster knew EXACTLY who his sponsor was. While there were in fact MANY
naked women on his page, not all the women were naked. So this bidness
about his "filter" being on doesn't hold water. He knew exactly what he
was doing.
After I uncovered this bit of info, the tide of public opinion drown
the bearded serpent. He was forced to do "damage control"! He cut and
ran with his beard between his legs!
He has never admitted that I was right, in fact he called myself and
others involved liars.
Well Puster, look at these websites and tell me what I was lying
about.www.zippyvideos.com and www.adultdatefinder.com
Now he claims innocence, but let's ask him why he now publishes his
videos on "AOL" and "youtube". These are just as filthy as the previous
sites are but Puster doesn't seem to be bothered by the fact that aol
supports gay rights and abortion rights.
I will keep on exposing the brazen rash of hypocracy that Puster Winter
exuded on a regular basis.
Goodbye, you filthy spiritual whoremonger,
cub brave
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Cowardboi the stalker from AOL continues to promote porn websites 02 Nov 2006 11:27:54 AM
However, scum like Cowardboi and even the reprobate scum Robert
Taylor continue to publish the URL of the site world wide to try
to harm me. I made an honest mistake and corrected it promptly.
These scum like Robert Taylor and the gutless anon coward boi
DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY have given the site free world wide
advertising. I believe these slime would sink to any depth and
even kiss the devil on the mouth if they thought it would harm
me.
So the offensive website has benefited far more from unethical
incompetent scum like Robert Taylor and the filthy coward boi
KNOWINGLY promoting their website.
Here is another reply to coward boi regarding his AOL account:
"cub brave" <cub.brave@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:

The filthy little false-christian pig whines about AOL while
the gutless anon coward posts with a Yahoo account. Is that the
best you filthy Satanic scum can do to try to defend your filthy
trinity religion???


That's it Puster, try and deflect the truth about YOU!

The simple facts are that YOU are uploading videos
AND soliciting >business to AOL.!

See my reply as:
"Hypocrite cowardboi has AOL account and whines about AOL"
Is this the best that the gutless anon stalker cowardboi can come
up with to defend his filthy false-christianity?
Yes, we have videos on AOL along with millions of people who have
internet accounts. See what cowardboi is so obsessed about and
jealous of at http://tinyurl.com/hbqru
Also the filthy cowardboi is also posting from an AOL account
himself, at least that is where is harassing email originated.
Here is a header from one of his more recent harassing emails
which was reported to yahoo and AOL (note the 205.188.117.66
which is cache-dtc-af02.proxy.aol.com):

Received: from web90304.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([216.252.100.141])
by mail.sellcom.com (Merak 8.5.0-8) with SMTP id EOX09358
for <steve@prime.org>; Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:49:58 -0400
Received: (qmail 45452 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Oct 2006 04:42:47 -0000
Message-ID: <20061026044247.45450.qmail@web90304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Received: from [205.188.117.66] by web90304.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2006

21:42:47 PDT

Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:42:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: steve winter <post.trib@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings, Brother Steve!
To: Steve Winter <steve@prime.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1337943858-1161837767=:43907"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

So I hope that all can see the hypocrisy of the cowardly
anon scum posting from his AOL account to attack me for
using AOL! Is this the best the false-christians can do?
Pastor Winter
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User: "Pogo"

Title: Re: Cowardboi the stalker from AOL continues to promote porn websites 02 Nov 2006 06:01:34 PM
On 2-Nov-2006, Pastor Steve Winter <steve-.NO--SPAM@-prime.org> wrote:

However, scum like Cowardboi and even the reprobate scum Robert
Taylor continue to publish the URL of the site world wide to try
to harm me. I made an honest mistake and corrected it promptly.

I was watching, steve, as were several others. If Rod hadn't verified
to you what was going on you would have persisted in calling several
other people liars. From where I was watching, your actions were anything
BUT prompt.
I also have no reason to wish you any harm, but I am calling you on this
lie !


These scum like Robert Taylor and the gutless anon coward boi
DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY have given the site free world wide
advertising.

Do you realise how UTTERLY PARANOID that sounds ?? Do you
realise how difficult it is to prove that accusation ? Particularly
when there are witnesses around to counter your accusations ?

I believe these slime would sink to any depth and
even kiss the devil on the mouth if they thought it would harm
me.

Why is it that you cannot see the level of degradation that you
have sunken to, just by making this type of statement ??


So the offensive website has benefited far more from unethical
incompetent scum like Robert Taylor and the filthy coward boi
KNOWINGLY promoting their website.

Here is another reply to coward boi regarding his AOL account:

"cub brave" <cub.brave@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:

The filthy little false-christian pig whines about AOL while
the gutless anon coward posts with a Yahoo account. Is that the
best you filthy Satanic scum can do to try to defend your filthy
trinity religion???


That's it Puster, try and deflect the truth about YOU!

The simple facts are that YOU are uploading videos
AND soliciting >business to AOL.!


See my reply as:

"Hypocrite cowardboi has AOL account and whines about AOL"

Is this the best that the gutless anon stalker cowardboi can come
up with to defend his filthy false-christianity?

Why should him or Robert put any effort into directing attention
your way ? All the people that were their are acutely aware of what
transpired !


Yes, we have videos on AOL along with millions of people who have
internet accounts. See what cowardboi is so obsessed about and
jealous of at http://tinyurl.com/hbqru

Also the filthy cowardboi is also posting from an AOL account
himself, at least that is where is harassing email originated.

And I am posting from a usenet account. It makes things so
much easier for you to silence disent when you can use the legal
system to bully the dissenters about, doesn't it ? You would make
an excellent member of the Bush administration ! I have to wonder,
were you ever involved with the Nazi party ?
Pogo
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User: "Pastor Steve Winter"

Title: Re: Cowardboi the stalker from AOL continues to promote porn websites 02 Nov 2006 07:07:56 PM
"Pogo" <pogo@rocketmail.com> spake thusly and wrote:

However, scum like Cowardboi and even the reprobate scum Robert
Taylor continue to publish the URL of the site world wide to try
to harm me. I made an honest mistake and corrected it promptly.


I was watching, steve, as were several others. If Rod hadn't verified
to you what was going on you would have persisted in calling several
other people liars. From where I was watching, your actions were anything
BUT prompt.

Cowardboi and some of those other scum were liars before and
after that event. Managing to have one thing right does not
make a liar less of a liar.

These scum like Robert Taylor and the gutless anon coward boi
DELIBERATELY and KNOWINGLY have given the site free world wide
advertising.


Do you realise how UTTERLY PARANOID that sounds ?? Do you
realise how difficult it is to prove that accusation ? Particularly
when there are witnesses around to counter your accusations ?

Can you really be that ignorant, coward pogo? The scum
cowardboi and the filthy Robert Taylor have published the
URL of the website they claim to hate repeatedly. Only
an idiot would try to deny that which has been published
worldwide. They have shown themselves willing to advertise
the site worldwide just to try to harm me MONTHS after I
removed our videos from the site. The little slime cowardboi
even set up himself an account on that same website.
Do us a favor, pogo, try to limit yourself to speaking out