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2Cor.11
[4] For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not
preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received,
or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with
him.
The Jesus of the Cults and religions
Another Jesus
Today's new spirituality does include Jesus, but he is not the Jesus
of Scripture. He is another Jesus who is appreciated by mystics and
Gnostics alike. He is accepted by the other religions as a great
teacher, an enlightened spiritual master, but not the Son of God, God
in the flesh, the only Savior from our sins, and only way to the
Father. He needs to be something other than the bibles Jesus to be
accepted by the masses.
The primary guru of the New Age Movement, Dr. Carl Gustav Jung, taught
that the "Christ archetype" could be activated and encountered via
active imagination or visualization. People today choose Jesus to be
their spirit-guide. As they visualize him, he speaks to them and gives
them wisdom and guidance. They claim, "I follow the words of Jesus."
The Jehovah's Witnesses also have another Jesus, one who is an angel
who became a man
The Mormons Jesus is similar in that he is also an angel. A Spirit
child of Elohim who is in the class of Spirit. He is the Spirit
brother of the Lucifer who became the Devil. That we all were the same
in spirit in our preexistence on earth before we embodied. Mormonism
(Joseph Smith): "Christ is the firstborn spirit Son in the eternal
family, and while yet in pre-existence he advanced and progressed and
became like the Father in power and intelligence; that is, he became a
God.""
It has become increasingly important to see that those who claim to be
Christian or represent God are presenting to their followers another
Jesus. These are only a few references as a guideline of what the
Bible teaches.
What the Scripture (the bible) says He will be- "And His name will be
called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of
Peace" (Isa. 9:6). Jer.23:5-6: ".. I will raise to David a branch of
righteousness; ... His name by which He will be called THE LORD
(Yahweh) OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS." Isa.63:8 God speaking, "so He became
their Savior."
What did Jesus say of himself-John 8:23 And He said to them, "You are
from beneath; I AM from above. You are of this world; I am not of this
world." "Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before
Abraham was, I AM"( John 8:58). Jn.5:18, "He said God was his Father,
making himself equal with God. "And Thomas answered and said to Him,
"My Lord and my God!" John 20:28. John 10:14-16: "I am the good
shepherd; and I know My sheep", David said in Ps.23 The Lord (God/
Yahweh) is my shepherd. Later in jn.10 Jesus states of His sheep "they
follow Me and I give them eternal life."
What did the disciples teach that he said- "and they shall call His
name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us. John 1:2-3 He was
in the beginning with God 3 All things were made through Him, and
without Him nothing was made that was made."
1 Pt.1:1 " our God and savior Jesus Christ." Titus 2:13 Jesus is
called "our great God and Savior." Col 1:16-17: "For by Him all things
were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and
invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.
All things were created through Him and for Him."1 Tim.3:16 "God was
manifested in the flesh."
No other person has been opinionated by the religious community, not
Buddha, nor Mohammed nor Krishna. Why the various opinions? It's a
life or death matter when it comes to the one called the Son of God.
Everyone will need to make a decision on who he is. Unfortunately many
deny what He said and the apostles taught of Him.
A=2ER.E Association for Research and Enlightenment (Edgar Cayce): "He is
an ensample [example] for man, and only as a man, for He lived only as
a man, He died as man."( Association for Research and Enlightenment
Edgar Cayce, reading no. 900-10 from Circulating file: Jesus the
Pattern and You, p. 53.) Edgar Cayce-"Q. `When did the knowledge come
to Jesus that he was to be the savior of the world? "A. `When he fell
in Eden... In Adam, he brought sin,'" (Psychic Healing, p. 75).
The Bahai Faith (The Bab; Baha'u'llah): "Jesus was not the only-
begotten Son of God come down from Heaven, crucified and resurrected,
nor the unique Saviour. Firuz Kazemzeden World Order summer 1978 p.39
the national spiritual assembly of the bahai's of the United states)
Was Christ within god, or God within Christ ? No in the name of God.
" (Abdul Baha Questions p. 97) Many Christians are surprised to find
that a new messenger from God has already come, saying that he is the
return of Christ." (The Return of Christ p. 4 1978 Bahai publishing
trust)
Islam- Sura 43:59 "Jesus was no more than a mortal whom Allah favored
and made an example to the Israelites. They are unbelievers who say
God is Messiah, Mary's son." Surat al Nisa 4:157-158 "And because of
their saying: we slew the messiah Jesus son of Mary. Allahs messenger-
they slew him not nor crucified- Sura 43:59
Church Universal and Triumphant-Mark and Elizabeth Prophet "The Christ
Self, then, has communication with the Father who in both Principle
and Person is the Presence of God, the 1 AM THAT 1 AM, or the 1 AM
Presence." (Mysteries of the Holy Grail Arch angel Gabriel p.217) the
Prophets explain, "Jesus was both the actual and symbolical
representative of this Christ Self. Jesus was the example. the one who
self-realized the Christ Mind and was at one with It at all times.
Jesus himself was not the only begotten Son of the Father. The Christ
of him was and is the only begotten Son of the Father " (The Lost
Teachings of Jesus p. 241).
Eckankar (Paul Twitchell): "do not put Him [Jesus] in a special
category, for all saviours and prophets who came to earth to help
mankind did their part arid passed on to the glory of the heavenly
kingdom ..
The Foundation of Human understanding The Foundation of Human
understanding (Roy Masters): -you must not have any concepts of what
Christ is like or God is like. it all must be an inward revelation
process-" (Roy Masters (tape), -The Mystery of Golgotha.
The Gurdjieff Foundation (Gurdfieff): -[In a conversation] ...
Gurdjieff said: 'I hate your Jesus, poor Jewish boy'-the emphasis
being on' your.'"' (C S. Nott Teachings of Gurdjieff. A Pupil's
Journal 1978, p. 103
Course in miracles- (Helen Schucman) "Jesus is a man, who is like all
other men, and the Christ idea, which all men possess and must
eventually demonstrated. He becomes the pattern for all of us. Jesus
the man was used by the Christ to demonstrate the illusion of the
world."...Jesus became what all of you must be. ...Is he the Christ? O
yes, along with you. ...Is he God's only Helper? No, indeed. For
Christ takes many forms with different names..." (pp. 83-84)."The Son
of God ... is not Jesus but our combined Christ consciousness. . ."The
name Jesus refers to one who was a man but who saw the face of Christ
in all his brothers.... So he became identified with Christ, a man no
longer at one with God."
The Masons- Manly Hall who started the Masons refers to Jesus as "The
Solar Diety' Jesus of Nazareth had attained a level of consciousness,
of perfection, that has been called by various names: cosmic
consciousness, soul regeneration, philosophic initiation, spiritual
illumination, Brahmic Splendor, Christ-consciousness. (Lynn F Perkins,
The Meaning of Masonry, CSA Press, 1971, 53)
Gurus
Agne Yoga Fellowship Agne Yoga Fellowship (Swami Kriyananda): 'What is
Christ? St. Simeon the new theologian wrote, 'I move my hand, and
Christ moves, who is my hand." Swami Kriyananda, Eastern Thoughts,
Western Thoughts (Nevada City, CA: Ananda Publications, 1975), pp.
67-68.
Self-Realization Fellowship Self-Realization Fellowship (Paramahansa
Yogananda): "in Christian Scriptures it [Christ] is called the 'only
begotten son'. . .. It is the universal consciousness, oneness with
God, manifested by Jesus, Krishna, and other avatars." Paramahansa
Yogananda, Man's Eternal Quest (Los Angeles, CA- Self Realization
Fellowship, 1975), pp. 470-71; cf., Self Realization (Los Angeles, CA-
Self Realization Fellowship), Winter 1979, pp, 340,
Sri Chinmoy Centers (Sri Chinmoy): "To say that Christ is the Savior
and the only way to salvation is a mistake. ... He laughs when His
followers say He is the only savior.- Sri Chininoy, A Hundred Years
from Now (Jamaica, NY. Agni press, 1974), pp, 39-43.
YoganandaYogananda "man reincarnates on earth until he has consciously
regained his status as a son of God."
The Divine Life Society Integral Yoga Institute (Sivananda/
Satchidananda): "Remember that Christ is not a person, It's an
experience-Christhood. Like Nirvana or Buddha. It's an experience.. .
" (Satchinananda speaks p.47-48 June 17, 1975)
Sri Yukteswar said: Theologians have interpreted Christ's words in
such passages as "I am the way, the truth and the life: no man cometh
unto the Father, but by me" (Jn. 14:6). Jesus meant, never that he was
the sole Son of God, but that no man can attain the unqualified
Absolute, the transcendent Father beyond creation, until he has first
manifested the 'Son' or activating Christ Consciousness within
creation. Jesus, who had achieved entire onenness with that Christ
consciousness, identified himself with it inasmuch as his own ego had
long since been dissolved.' (Paramahansa Yogananda Autobiography of a
Yogi Self Realization fellowship p.178)
3 HO Sikhism 3 HO Sikhism (Yogi Bhajan): Jesus was a man of God only
who had to become qualified for hiknow if Joseph was his father and
his mother created "her son to really be a Christ," but not a savior.
Heads of Truth, Winter, March 1978, p. 20; Spring 1975, p. 13; Spring
1978, pp. 32, 39, Beds of Truth no. 31, p. 15.)
Vedanta: Swami Probhavananda alleges we "cannot accept Christ as the
only Son of God, Those who insist on regarding the life and teachings
of Jesus as unique are bound to have great difficulty in understanding
them." Swami Prabhavananda, The Sermon on the Mount According to
Vedanta 1963, p. 47.
Sai Baba Society (Sathya Sai Baba): "The inner mystery of the
incarnation [is] God incarnating in all. All are One; the One is All.
Anthroposophy (Rudolph Steiner): "[Jesus] ... must be designated in
the truest sense of the word as a 'mere man'.. ( Rudolf Steiner, From
Jesus to Christ 1973, pp. 51-52.
Nichiren Shoshu Buddhism Diasaku Ikeda): "The doctrines of the
divinity and the resurrection Of Christ are outside the province of
rational thought .... Christians are schizophrenic." Noah S. Brannen,
Soka Gakkai, Japan's Militant Buddhists (Richmond, VA: John Knox
Press, 1968), pp. 98-99.
The Masonic Lodge: A former Mason reports 'Freemasonry carefully
excludes' the Lord Jesus Christ from the lodge and chapter, repudiates
His mediatorship, rejects His atonement, denies and disowns His
Gospel, frowns upon His religion and His church, ignores the Holy
Spirit..." Edmond Ronayne, The Masters Carpet (Ezra Cook Company of
Chicago, 1879), p. 87.) "Christ, teaching the Religion of Love, was
crucified, that it might become a Religion of Hate;" (Morals and Dogma
P=2E294) "But the Chief of the Empire of Darkness caused Him to be
crucified by the Jews. Still He suffered in appearance only..." (ibid.
p=2E 567, p. 1)
Those who claim Christianity
Iglesia Ni Cristo (Felix Manalo) "If there is any verse which people
claim proves the alleged deity of Christ, this verse has been wrongly
interpreted by the people." (Pasugo 1984 May/june p.14) "Col.1:15
states very clearly, Christ is 'the firstborn of every creature,' and
is therefore not the creator."(Pasugo Jan/.Feb 1980 p.37) "The
scriptures do not teach that Christ is the creator of all
things." (PASUGO, March/April 1982, p. 26.)"We now affirm that Jn.1:1
does not call Jesus Christ God...'It does not teach the doctrine of the
Trinity." (God's message July/Sept 1995 p.14)
Jehovah's Witnesses- Charles Taze Russell- "There is Scriptural
evidence for concluding that Michael was the name of Jesus Christ
before he left heaven and after his return." (WT 5/15/1969, p. 307)
..=2E."Michael the great prince is none other than Jesus Christ
himself." (WT 12/15/1984 p29) Michael the archangel is no other than
the only begotten son of God, now Jesus Christ.."(New Heavens and New
Earth pg.30-31)- Charles Taze Russell-"There is Scriptural evidence
for concluding that Michael was the name of Jesus Christ before he
left heaven and after his return." (WT 5/15/1969, p. 307) ..."Michael
the great prince is none other than Jesus Christ himself." (WT
12/15/1984 p29) Michael the archangel is no other than the only
begotten son of God, now Jesus Christ."(New Heavens and New Earth pg.
30-31)
The Moonies- "He can by no means be God Himself."-Divine Principle,
pp. 210-211
Christian Science Christian Science (Mary Baker Eddy): "Jesus Christ
is not God, as Jesus Himself declared, but is the Son of
God." (Science and Health Key to the Scriptures p.361). Jesus is the
name of the man who, more than all other men, has presented Christ,
the true idea of God. . . . Jesus is the human man, and Christ is the
divine idea; hence the duality of Jesus the Christ. (Mary Baker Eddy,
Science and Health and Key to the Scriptures The First Church of
Christ Scientist 1934, p. 361.) " he was the first human to understand
the Divine Mind." " Jesus means "the highest human corporeal concept
of the divine idea. . ." (ibid. p. 589).
Christian Spiritual Alliance The Christian Spiritual Alliance (Roy
Eugene Davis): "Jesus was not the only begotten." (Roy Eugene Davis,
the Hidden teachings of Jesus Revealed 1968, p. 9, emphasis added.
Christadelphians (John Thomas). "Jesus Christ did not exist as a
person from eternity as one of the triune Godhead.... He did not
actually come into being until He was begotten of the Holy Spirit and
born in Bethlehem" (Christadelphian messenger no.46 the word made
flesh p.3)
Oneness Pentecostals "The Son of God existed from all eternity only as
a plan in the mind of God." (The Oneness of God, D. Bernard p.295)
"the role of the son is temporary and not eternal" (p.105, 108)""The
Son of God refers to the humanity of Jesus." (Oneness of God, p.98)
Way International Paul Wierwille taught "We, as well as Jesus Christ,
were with God in His foreknowledge, but not in existence, before the
world began. Neither did Jesus Christ" (Jesus Christ Is Not God pp.
31-32). that Jesus did not exist except in the mind of God before
conception in Mary's womb, and "Jesus Christ the Son of God, was made
by God" (Ibid, pp. 103-04).
Unity School of Christianity (Charles Fillmore), "Most of our
religious beliefs are based on the [erroneous] idea that Jesus is the
only begotten Son of God." Unity (periodical), October, 1976, pp.
59-60.)
Unitarian Universalism: Unitarian Universalist minister Waldemar Argow
states: "They [Unitarian/Universalists] do not regard him as a
supernatural creature, the literal son of God who was miraculously
sent to earth as part of an involved plan for the salvation of human
souls.', (Waldemar Argow, Unitarian Universalism-Some Questions
Answered (pamphlet) (Boston, MA. Unitarian Universalism Assoc., nd.),
p=2E 6.)
Mormonism- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints- "..That
Lucifer, the son of the morning, is our elder brother and the brother
of Jesus Christ." (Apostle B. McConkie Mormon doctrine p.163-164)
"=2E..Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same
character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in
Heaven," (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, pp. 50-51). Jesus got married
at Cana and had many wives Martha, Mary and others he also had many
children," (J & D vol.1 345-346 vol.2 79-82 vol.4:259-260 the seer p.
172)
The Unification Church (Sun Myung Moon): "It is a great error to think
Jesus was God Himself. Jesus is no different from other men."( Young
Oon Kin, Divine Principle and its Application (HSA-UWC, 1968), p. 75.)
"We must understand that this (John 8.58) also does not signify that
Jesus was God Himself .Jesus on earth was a man no different from us
except for the fact that He was born without original sin." (Divine
Principle p. 212).
Word faith movement
John Avanzini "Jesus had a nice house, a big house." (Believer's Voice
of Victory, (TBN) 1/20/91) "Jesus was handling big money." (Praise the
Lord (TBN), 9/15/88)
Kenneth Copeland "The image being that he was a copy, looked just
like, if you stood Adam upside God they look just exactly
alike...." (The Authority of the Believer IV, Tape #01-0304) "Jesus
has a beginning and an end." (What Happened From the Cross to the
Throne, Tape #00-0303) God is a "spirit-being with a body, complete
with eyes, and eyelids, ears, nostrils, a mouth, hands and fingers,
and feet." (Kenneth Copeland ministry letter, 21 July 1977.) "Satan
conquered Jesus on the Cross and took His spirit to the dark regions
of hell" (Kenneth Copeland, Holy Bible: Kenneth Copeland Reference
Edition (Kenneth Copeland, Fort Worth: Kenneth Copeland Ministries,
1991), 129.)
Benny Hinn '"What was the appearance of God the Father? Like that of a
man...God has the likeness of fingers and hands and a face." (Good
Morning Holy Spirit, (Benny Hinn, Word, 1991) p. 82) "Have you been
begotten? So was He. Don't let anyone deceive you. Jesus was reborn.
" (Benny Hinn, Our Position 'In Christ,' Part 1 1991), videotape
#TV-254. "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost - three
separate individuals, one in essence, one in work - and, may I add,
each one of them possesses His own spirit-body. " ("Praise the Lord",
10/23/92)
Hagin speaking of Jesus "his spirit and inner man went to hell in my
place. Can't you see that? PHYSICAL DEATH WOULDN'T REMOVE YOUR SINS.
He tasted death for every man. He's talking about spiritual
death." (how Jesus obtained his name tape # 44HO1 side 1)
New Age writers-
Lola Davis the New Age "Christ" resides on a different plane of
consciousness from that which we experience. There he directs the
Masters, "a group of advanced souls, most of them discarnate ... known
variously as the White Brotherhood, The Great White Lodge, the Masters
of Wisdom, the Hierarchy, and the Angels around the Throne." (Lola
Davis toward a world religion for a new age p.186)
Matthew Fox- The Cosmic Christ is the divine pattern that connects in
the person of Jesus Christ (but by no means is limited to that
person). (The Coming of the Cosmic Christ p.135) Divinity is found in
all creatures. The divine name from Exod. 3:14, "1 Am who I Am," is
appropriated by Jesus who shows us how to embrace our own divinity.
The Cosmic Christ is the "I am" in every creature. (P154)
Babara Marx Hubbard- "Who is this child? This child is the Christ-
child within who has emerged victorious, fully born, incarnated as
every member of the human race who evolves." "This UNITY OF THE ELECT
is the key to the transformation from Adam to Christ, from Homo
sapiens to HOMO UNIVERSALIS, from creature to co-creator, from self-
centered to whole centered beings."
David and Naomi Rice.... The Christ is within each and everyone of
God's creatures. .... . .the Christ is the spark of pure energy of God
that has always existed within the individual manifestation of God in
in many forms, but has been forgotten. (Messiah and the 2nd coming
John David and Naomi Rice 1982 Coptic press Wyoming MI)
David Spangler stated: Christ is the same force as Lucifer......
Lucifer works within each of us to bring us to wholeness, and as we
move into a New Age ... each of us in some way is brought to that
point which I term the Luciferic Initiation ... for it is an
invitation into the New Age. (David Spangler reflections on the Christ
p=2E44-45)
Tara Center- THE CHRIST IS IN THE WORLD. A great World Teacher for
people of every religion and no religion. A practical man with
solutions to our problems. He loves ALL humanity... Christ is here, my
friends. Your Brother walks among you. (Tara Center, full-page ad in
USA Today, January 12, 1987) stated: Christ is the same force as
Lucifer...... Lucifer works within each of us to bring us to
wholeness, and as we move into a New Age ... each of us in some way is
brought to that point which I term the Luciferic Initiation ... for it
is an invitation into the New Age.(David Spangler reflections on the
Christ p.44-45)
Tara Center- THE CHRIST IS IN THE WORLD. A great World Teacher for
people of every religion and no religion. A practical man with
solutions to our problems. He loves ALL humanity... Christ is here, my
friends. Your Brother walks among you. (Tara Center, full-page ad in
USA Today, January 12, 1987) Benjamen Creme's opinion, -given to him
by his master, Lord Maitreya, you and I are not God and Jesus did not
claim to be God."The Christ is the Master 'Of all the Masters , but He
is not God, and never claimed to be God"
Rosicrucianism (AMORO (H. Spencer Lewis): "Nowhere in the teachings
and practices of Jesus can we find the least intimation that His great
system was intended to bring salvation to the physical body of man.
Even the salvation of the soul was not taught by Jesus, and all
references in the Christian Bible to the salvation of the soul
constitute a misinterpretation, a misunderstanding, of the secret
(Rosicrucianism] principle that Jesus taught.( K Spencer Lewis, The
secret Doctrine of Jesus (San Jose, CA-- Supreme Grand Lodge of
AMORC), pp. 186-87,189-91.The Son is the highest initiate of the
Sun"( The Rosicrucian Cosmo Conception). "The Christ spirit which
entered the body of Jesus when Jesus Himself vacated it, was a ray
from the cosmic Christ. We may follow Jesus back in His previous
incarnations and can trace his growth to the present day." (The
Rosicrucian Philosophy p. 181)
Science of Mind (Ernest Holmes): "Jesus is the name of a man. Christ
means the Universal Principle of Divine Sonship.'(N. Kasturt Sathya
Sai Speaks, vol. 8, Ist ed. 1975, p.144.)
Scientology (L. Ron Hubbard): "Neither Lord Buddha nor Jesus Christ
were OTs [that is, Operation Thetans, enlightened beings] according to
the evidence. They were just a shade above clear [that is, relatively
low on the Scientology scale of spiritual advancement." (Ability
magazine no. 81 [c. 1959 p. 31.)
Pierre Teilhard De Chardin- If a Christ is to be completely acceptable
as an object of worship, he must be presented as the saviour of the
Idea and reality of evolution. (P. 78) I believe that the Messiah whom
we await, whom we all without any doubt await the universal Christ;
that is to say, the Christ of evolution. (P. 96)Christianity and
Evolution by
Theosophy (Helena. P Blavatsky): "Nowhere throughout the New Testament
is Jesus found calling himself God, or anything higher than 'a son of
God,' the son of a 'Father,' common to all." Helena Petrovna
Blavatsky. The Secret Doctrine (India: Theosophical Publishing House
1971), vol. 5, p. 369n.
Transcendental Meditation (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi): "[When] Christ
said, Be still and know that I am God.'[He also meant) 'Be still and
know that you are God."' And, "I don't think Christ ever suffered [on
the cross].... Those who count upon the suffering, it is a wrong
interpretation of the life of Christ and the message of Christ. It is
wrong."105
Lucis Trust (Alice Bailey): -The Incarnation, which is for popular
Christianity synonymous with the historical birth and earthly life of
Christ, is for the mystic not only this but also a Perpetual cosmic
and personal process.- (Alice Bailey, From Bethlehem to Calvary Lucis
Trust, 1976, P. 7
Matthew Fox- The Cosmic Christ is the divine pattern that connects in
the person of Jesus Christ (but by no means is limited to that
person). (The Coming of the Cosmic Christ p.135) Divinity is found in
all creatures. The divine name from Exod. 3:14, "1 Am who I Am, "is
appropriated by Jesus who shows us how to embrace our own divinity.
The Cosmic Christ is the "I am" in every creature. (P154)
Urantia book- Jesus Christ is not identified as being uniquely God the
Son, second Person of the Holy Trinity. Instead he is Michael, one of
many God the Sons. The Michael of Nebadon is the `only-begotten Son'
personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and
infinity," P. 53 In other words, Jesus (Michael) is the Son of the Son
of God and the Father in the sense that when these two beings had a
simultaneous original thought for the 611,121st time, Jesus (Michael)
was begotten. (p.366).
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