I thank you for tak

V:

Neil Kelsey:

"I have evidence that you are vindictive.(V) Lots of it. Your post
below is nothing but a red herring, and has nothing to do with the
topic. Whether you are tough and fair is irrelevant to whether you are
vindictive. You ARE in denial, however."

V:

I thank you for taking the time to send me your complaint and will do
my best to answer it Neil.

printed yours out, so you may digest what I say slowly, as my reply is
a long one. And while 'being tough' may be irrelevant to our
conversation, 'being fair' is most certainly NOT IRRELEVANT to it.

I am afraid you have your wires crossed as to who is in denial Neil. I
have listened to and given the atheist every opportunity to answer me
and be part of the discussion of whatever topic I submit. Just
recently when you claimed I was unfair to you I opened up two threads.
One thread was for you to rebut my 'unfair quotes' of you with the
link to those rebuttals to be included for future uses of my post. The
other thread was for the same purpose with other atheists I quoted.

The result was 0% rebuttals.

A vindictive person would not do that Neil. A vindictive person would
not spend the time I spend answering your endless barrage of replies
filled with little more than 'idle speech' from a person that craves
attention.

A vindictive person would jut send out hate and spew poisons at every
tune Neil and no be concerned with your feelings and the feelings of
the other atheists. Be honest Neil and admit who are the vindictive
people at alt.aetshim.

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D509.0

But this is how it has been all along with atheists. Most of the time
replies are just attacks on my character or a blathering of
profanities. When that does not work they start making threats. It
seems to be human nature Neil, than when you can't beat a person with
words, you then start looking to other ways of 'beating' that person.

Do you remember what I told you about the online person that showed up
at my front door? He could not beat me with words, so he tried beating
me physically. Does the progression sound familiar Neil?

Witness the 'ho wahcks' of the past week, where atheists pretend they
are Zen masters beating me with a stick. They cannot beat me with
words, so they have taken the next step. Now they see their 'fantasy
beating' is not working, so they are succumbing to more ominous
threats.

It is human nature Neil for the spiritually sick individual to act
like this...start with verbal threats and move onto physical threats.
They have no semblance of inner peace so what else can they offer in
life but animal insects. (Actually animals are nowhere as hateful as
humans are Neil.)

Well, at least the atheists are studying Buddhism some with their
fantasy beatings, so I am happy for that. Just do not confuse the
finger pointing at the moon with the moon atheists. Just fantasizing
you are a Zen master does not make you one...so don't stoop on your
own path to enlightenment atheists...go beyond using Buddhism for an
excuse to beat V...use it as a tool to transcend you ego!

Since atheist and theists are fear based people, they seem to think
that threats override the truth. Well, it doesn't Neil. Threats come
and go and require bigotry and prejudice to fuel them. Whereas the
truth is stable and can exist on its own and can exist in peace Neil.

Neil Kelsey:

"You want to be taken seriously, but no one does. Most people take
that as a sign that they might need to modify their behavior, that
there's something they can do, a compromise they can make, to improve
their situation."

V:

Whether you take me seriously or not Neil is up to you and not my
concern. I browbeat no one Neil.

Please submit your evidence where I tell others that they are not
entitled to their opinion?

You cannot Neil.

I always give the others persons their views 100%, for if I didn't I
would not be given the same courtesy to my views.

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D510.0

Your 'argumentum ad populum' argument you propose is not valid. Public
option does not make a thing right or wrong. The difference between an
authority and an authoritarian is this. An authority speaks from a
place of truth and such speaks as an authority. Whereas an
authoritarian rules by fear and not by truth. For the truth stands on
it own and the authoritarian stands on their ego.

When Robibnikoff wrote me:

"Didn't I just tell that retarded, putrid, piece of dog *****
***** (V) that I was putting him back in my killfile?"

I told her and the group the same thing. Whether people read my posts
or do not read my posts is of no concern to me. Whether they killfile
me or not killfile me is of no concern to me. My only concern is seek
the truth Neil and not to get stuck confusing truth with ego.

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D627.0

What caused Robibnikoff's fury in this case Neil?

Did I swear at her?

Did I en address her at all?

No, Liz #658 gave me a '***** SLAP' Neil.

I asked Liz #658 the following question: "Do you like to be called a
***** and be slapped around Liz #658? Is that how a lady expects to be
treated? If that is what you think? Then it is only natural that you
extend such treatment to others."

Was that wrong Neil?

If you had a wife or daughter would you like them being called a *****
and slapped around Neil? Do you call your mother a ***** and slap her
around Neil? Is that the sort of behavior secular humanists like to
promote Neil?

As part of my Buddhist practice I offer right speech to others to
correct wrong speech. Is that wrong Neil...should we not correct wrong
speech with right speech Neil? Should we promote slapping each other
and calling each other bitches?

http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=3D628.0

You are a slave to me as well as a slave to religion Neil. You reply
to ALL OF MY POSTS. You MUST tear down anything and all things from
religion. I cannot recall when you have ever agreed with one thing I
have ever said Neil. Just as virtually all of the other atheists thumb
their noses at reality and reason with their senseless ramblings,
trying in vain to destroy the character of the writer - instead of
refuting what the writer says.

And you extend this hatred not only for the religion of Gods but also
to the religion of humanity. Your self worth is defined in trying to
tear things down. My self worth is defined in being at peace and
bringing peace to others.

It must being tough being you Neil. You operate by hatred and
prejudice and have no foundation in truth. Whatever I submit must be
torn down and disagreed with as to do otherwise would destroy your
sense of ego. Since you cannot tear down what I write about as false,
you work to tear down me.

But that will not work since my self worth is not based on what you or
anyone thinks of me as my self worth is based on truth. At the end of
my posts, I list myself as 'practical philosopher.' You see, I try to
practice what I preach, Remember ..."A wise mans knows what he says
and a fool only says what he knows."

At the end of my posts, I list myself as practical philosopher. You
see, I try to practice what I preach, I am not a theoretical
philosopher, so I know many of these tools I write about work from
practical application. I am not driven by fads or public opinion, I am
driven by truth and inner peace

To make matters worse, what I write about is not always 'what I
write.' I draw from many sources and traditions of wisdom and
philosophy...all time honored and tested tools. And it is 100% blanket
dismissal from the mind manacled, defiant based, spiritually sick
atheists 100% of the time. You see, a person may be wrong some of the
time, but seldom are they wrong ALL of the time.

In addition if I am wrong 100% of the time are the rest of my teachers
such as Aristotle, Homer, Socrates, Buddha, Jesus, Plato, Thoreau,
Ruskin, Huxley, Rousseau, Hobbes, Lao Tze, Voltaire, Ben Franklin,
Dalai Lama, Epictitus, Marcus Aurelius, Emerson, James Allen, Bhodi
Dharma, Hume, Aquinas, Descartes and many hundreds more...are they
also all 100% wrong...100% of time as well?

If this is the case and we are all 100% wrong 100% of the time...then
who must we turn to for truth?

Do we go to Raven, Robibnikoff, Bilbo, Michael Gray, Kate, Floyd,
Neil, Michelle, Ghod, Parsifa, Martin, Lucifer, Syd M, John #1782,
Enkidu, Hollis, Gail, Rev. Karl E. Taylor, Martin, BuddyThunder, NC
for the truth?

Well, read their posts and judge for yourself. Sometime they do have
the truth and other time they do not. As I said, seldom is a person
100% wrong 100% of the time.

The bottom line is this: You have two paths to decide on. You can take
the path of truth and find inner peace by developing wisdom and virtue
or you can take the path of the mind manacled, defiant based,
spiritually sick atheist and head for a life of destruction and inner
turmoil.

If I could change you I would, but am not God. Only change can come
from you Neil. This change can either be negative or positive, but one
thing is sure...change will come about in your life. You will either
increase the hatred and ill will or decrease it and replace it with
compassion, gratitude and inner peace.

But again, the choice is only yours and no on can do it for you.

The first step in the direction for change is to apologize for all the
damage you have done in your prior life of destroying others. You can
start this instant by going back the best you can and changing the
wrongs you have committed against others in your old life. This will
destroy your old ego and create a new you, one that is rooted in
compassion for others and not rooted in destruction of inner peace.
When we get rid of one thing it makes room for something new to enter.

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