Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

ANTI-Choice Loser, Gamelson, PROVES Himself
to be CLUELESS --- Example #1:

He OMITTED that to which he could not respond, of
Mark Sebree's excellent analysis... and has SINCE cravenly
**ignored** this post (below) that called him on that

Ahhh. Craig got spanked yet again, eh Craig?

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:58:31 -0600,
"Bill Gamelson" <bgamelson@cox.net> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com> wrote:

THIS excellent post by Mark Sebree is a KEEPER.

Everyone who has ever pondered the abortion topic should
read this. And I encourage everyone to make copies of it, and
circulate them widely. THIS says it ALL !!!

Three years ago, today -- March 11th -- Mark Sebree posted
this astute analysis, in response to a post by an Anti-Choicer.
I've retained ...

From here on, I've RESTORED the remainder of the previous post --
which you omitted -- because it INDICTS you and your sociopathic &
hateful ilk...

... it in my SIG file ever since, and I simply call it...

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CHOICES

What choices have you offered the pregnant woman that she
can avail herself of during her pregnancy? If she is pregnant,
you advocate that she has only one choice, or rather no choice.
She MUST remain pregnant and give birth, according to you and
your ilk.

You obviously have little respect for women, their intelligence,
and their ability to decide what to do with their own life. I know
what you will say to my above paragraph.

"She can give the child up for adoption." Sorry, that is not a
choice DURING the pregnancy, and about the pregnancy. That
choice can only be made after the pregnancy successfully completes.
That is still a no-choice choice. The woman MUST remain pregnant.

"She should have used contraception." News flash. Most women
do use contraception. But contraception has known laboratory and
real world failure rates, even when used correctly and in combination.
There are many women who get pregnant despite careful use of
contraception. And this does not help her during her pregnancy.

"She should have not 'spread her legs' if she did not want to get
pregnant." Now this is a sample of busybodyness and control-freakish
behavior at its best. Or is that at its worst. You are trying to
dictate to strangers how they should live their lives without knowing
the least thing about them. Should married couples stay celibate
because they don't want any children now, any more, or ever? You
want to dictate their sex life to them? Does anything give you the
right to dictate to anyone where, when, why, how, with whom, or with
how many people a person can have sex? Most people enjoy sex,
and many enjoy it often. Besides, this still does not help her while
she is pregnant.

"She made her choice when she had sex. She must now accept
the consequences." This is in the same category as the previous item.
The choices that she made when she had sex was with whom, where,
and how. If she is going to a women's clinic that also does abortions
for an abortion, she probably did not have sex with the intention of
getting pregnant. The fact is that she had sex, and now she must
make another choice, either to continue the pregnancy to term, or to
abort the pregnancy as soon as possible. BOTH are VALID options.
It is a consequence of her having sex that this choice is now before
her. And this choice also has consequences.

ALL CHOICES have consequences, and all choices lead to other
choices that will need to be made. That is the nature of life. The
best quality of life for each individual person can most fairly be
obtained by allowing the greatest number of options to be practically
available for each choice that must be made. By removing the only
other option currently available to women who are pregnant, you are
leaving them without choices, and effectively dictating their lives to
them, making them slaves to your will on this subject.

People are not your slaves. No one is required to follow your
dictates. Women have minds of their own, and they have their own
plans with respect to their lives. They can make their own decisions,
they don't need your (or my) help. Stay out of their bedroom, and
stay out of their lives.

Mark Sebree

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Isn't it funny that Pro-Choice people simply are afraid to
say "Pro-Life?"

Why? So that we could be as STUPID as *you* DIShonest
loons are by employing it?

Since **everyone** is pro-life, with the exceptions of serial
killers and hit men, we prefer to use HONEST terminology.

We support the right of women to CHOOSE between the only
two reproductive options available to the in the event of pregnancy:
gestating to term when they WANT to, and accessing the **remedy**
of abortion when they do NOT want to carry to term. And *you*
hatefully and mindlessly seek to **deprive** them of that choice,
and FORCE gestation upon them against their will. Which makes
you a **rapist** at heart, and a mindless sociopath.

Thus, there are two 100% ACCURATE terms:

Pro-Choice ---

Compassionate and sensible egalitarians who DEFEND
the right of all women to have unfettered access, safely and
legally, to EITHER option... as they CHOOSE.

Anti-Choice ---

Hateful and bigoted, busybodyish and control-freakish
sociopaths who seek to DENY choice to women, and
FORCE gestation-to-term upon them against their will.

So PRO-Choicers are **honest**, compassionate, and sensible
people.

And ANTI-Choicers are society's bottom-feeders. Sewer rat
turds in the punchbowl of humanity.