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"David Matthieu P.P." |
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16 Dec 2004 07:16:01 AM |
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ANTICHRISTS LIVE 24/7 |
In July 2001 TBN broadcasted the service of Benny Hinn who was visiting the
Church of Rod Parsley During this service Benny Hinn made some important
declarations that all Christians should be aware of.. Even though many
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers have categorically denied that there
were barking and howling manifestations in their Churches, Benny Hinn on
that day publicly acknowledged this is true. In addition to this, with many
words he wanted to sound convincing, Benny Hinn condemned these
manifestations and declared them to be of demonic origins. This was not the
only surprise of the day, Benny Hinn even stated that the laughter movement
was also of the devil and not the work of the Holy Spirit. Benny Hinn also
preached that all new manifestations that cannot be found in the Bible
should be rejectd. In spite of his apparent condemnation of the abomination,
Benny Hinn did not call on his fellow Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers
to repent for introducing the worship of devils in the Churches! Benny Hiin
also did not blame at all his good friends Paul and Jan Crouch who for many
years have promoted these demonic services on TBN and who have played an
important role in causing Thousands of Thousands of innocent believers in
Christ to be demonized. Benny Hinn did not either confess any personal
involvement in this cabal, even though it is a well known fact that he has
been and he is still demonizing innumerable multitudes of Christians. The
cleverness of this Faith Healer was absolutely remarkable, in his sermon he
managed to put the blame on the poor believers themselves, falsifying the
Truth he will never acknowledge: all these people were demonized by no other
than himself Benny Hinn, the False Prophets of TBN and also by unscrupulous
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers.
Benny Hinn is extremely smart, with all these incriminating videos that are
released to the public and also with the existence of so many eye witnesses
testifying about the abomination, he realized that it would be absolutely
ridiculous to still deny the facts..As a real Genius, Benny Hinn pointed
out that these demonic manifestations have only been happening in other
Congregations because he would never allow this to happen in his own
Ministry. By pretending that he is distancing himself from these
controversial Manifestations, Benny Hinn tried to gain the support of honest
and faithful Christians who are publicly voicing their indignation. By the
same token he was looking forward to give some kind of legitimacy to his
Ministry and restore credibility to his severely tarnished public image. The
whole presentation was quite magnificent and even became highly emotional
when Benny Hinn managed to make couple drops of tears appear in his eyes
while he was revealing how hard it was on him to bear the scrutiny of the
News Media together with the harsh Criticisms of other Christians. With
arguments he wanted to be persuasive, he strived to convince the audience
that he was not in the Ministry for the Money. With theatrical gestures, he
asked who wants to be in it for the money? He declared that in his case,
even his own kids at school were called names by their peers. Still Benny
Hinn did not say exactly if his kids were called the Children of
Antichrist?
In Hollywood there are no Actors at all that can ever come close to having
the classiness of Benny Hinn! The only person that comes second after Benny
Hinn and who can stir the Crowd with such level of emotions, is Jan Crouch.
With only very few words spoken out of her mouth in the classic lachrymose
style, Mountains of Dollars are moved to her Banks at each of her live
performances With always the same Repertoire and the same magical script,
the financial Miracle does occur every single time and one drop of tears
from her eyes is worth way over 5 Million dollars of donations! This is not
only showmanship that is involved in the bewitchment of the Christian
Masses, I want to make sure it is clearly understood that all the Prophets
of TBN do have great powers. If you ever listen to them preaching at a
Crusade or in a Revival, they will send you home not only broke but surely
demonized with devils from the lowest hell!
Warning, this may be shocking to some readers, the following link will play
the Video of a Charismatic Church Service:
http://informativechristian.com/bostonchurch.ram
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| User: "Joe" |
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| Title: Re: ANTICHRISTS LIVE 24/7 |
17 Dec 2004 09:59:02 PM |
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Interesting
"David Matthieu P.P." <johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:32dg4mF3ksjciU1@individual.net...
In July 2001 TBN broadcasted the service of Benny Hinn who was visiting
the
Church of Rod Parsley During this service Benny Hinn made some important
declarations that all Christians should be aware of.. Even though many
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers have categorically denied that there
were barking and howling manifestations in their Churches, Benny Hinn on
that day publicly acknowledged this is true. In addition to this, with
many
words he wanted to sound convincing, Benny Hinn condemned these
manifestations and declared them to be of demonic origins. This was not
the
only surprise of the day, Benny Hinn even stated that the laughter
movement
was also of the devil and not the work of the Holy Spirit. Benny Hinn also
preached that all new manifestations that cannot be found in the Bible
should be rejectd. In spite of his apparent condemnation of the
abomination,
Benny Hinn did not call on his fellow Charismatic and Pentecostal
Ministers
to repent for introducing the worship of devils in the Churches! Benny
Hiin
also did not blame at all his good friends Paul and Jan Crouch who for
many
years have promoted these demonic services on TBN and who have played an
important role in causing Thousands of Thousands of innocent believers in
Christ to be demonized. Benny Hinn did not either confess any personal
involvement in this cabal, even though it is a well known fact that he has
been and he is still demonizing innumerable multitudes of Christians. The
cleverness of this Faith Healer was absolutely remarkable, in his sermon
he
managed to put the blame on the poor believers themselves, falsifying the
Truth he will never acknowledge: all these people were demonized by no
other
than himself Benny Hinn, the False Prophets of TBN and also by
unscrupulous
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers.
Benny Hinn is extremely smart, with all these incriminating videos that
are
released to the public and also with the existence of so many eye
witnesses
testifying about the abomination, he realized that it would be absolutely
ridiculous to still deny the facts..As a real Genius, Benny Hinn pointed
out that these demonic manifestations have only been happening in other
Congregations because he would never allow this to happen in his own
Ministry. By pretending that he is distancing himself from these
controversial Manifestations, Benny Hinn tried to gain the support of
honest
and faithful Christians who are publicly voicing their indignation. By the
same token he was looking forward to give some kind of legitimacy to his
Ministry and restore credibility to his severely tarnished public image.
The
whole presentation was quite magnificent and even became highly emotional
when Benny Hinn managed to make couple drops of tears appear in his eyes
while he was revealing how hard it was on him to bear the scrutiny of the
News Media together with the harsh Criticisms of other Christians. With
arguments he wanted to be persuasive, he strived to convince the audience
that he was not in the Ministry for the Money. With theatrical gestures,
he
asked who wants to be in it for the money? He declared that in his case,
even his own kids at school were called names by their peers. Still Benny
Hinn did not say exactly if his kids were called the Children of
Antichrist?
In Hollywood there are no Actors at all that can ever come close to having
the classiness of Benny Hinn! The only person that comes second after
Benny
Hinn and who can stir the Crowd with such level of emotions, is Jan
Crouch.
With only very few words spoken out of her mouth in the classic lachrymose
style, Mountains of Dollars are moved to her Banks at each of her live
performances With always the same Repertoire and the same magical script,
the financial Miracle does occur every single time and one drop of tears
from her eyes is worth way over 5 Million dollars of donations! This is
not
only showmanship that is involved in the bewitchment of the Christian
Masses, I want to make sure it is clearly understood that all the Prophets
of TBN do have great powers. If you ever listen to them preaching at a
Crusade or in a Revival, they will send you home not only broke but surely
demonized with devils from the lowest hell!
Warning, this may be shocking to some readers, the following link will
play
the Video of a Charismatic Church Service:
http://informativechristian.com/bostonchurch.ram
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| User: "j w" |
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16 Dec 2004 09:27:04 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:16:01 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
In July 2001 TBN broadcasted the service of Benny Hinn who was visiting the
Church of Rod Parsley During this service Benny Hinn made some important
declarations that all Christians should be aware of.. Even though many
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers have categorically denied that there
were barking and howling manifestations in their Churches, Benny Hinn on
that day publicly acknowledged this is true. In addition to this, with many
words he wanted to sound convincing, Benny Hinn condemned these
manifestations and declared them to be of demonic origins. This was not the
only surprise of the day, Benny Hinn even stated that the laughter movement
was also of the devil and not the work of the Holy Spirit. Benny Hinn also
preached that all new manifestations that cannot be found in the Bible
should be rejectd. In spite of his apparent condemnation of the abomination,
Benny Hinn did not call on his fellow Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers
to repent for introducing the worship of devils in the Churches!
Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
jw
Benny Hiin
also did not blame at all his good friends Paul and Jan Crouch who for many
years have promoted these demonic services on TBN and who have played an
important role in causing Thousands of Thousands of innocent believers in
Christ to be demonized. Benny Hinn did not either confess any personal
involvement in this cabal, even though it is a well known fact that he has
been and he is still demonizing innumerable multitudes of Christians. The
cleverness of this Faith Healer was absolutely remarkable, in his sermon he
managed to put the blame on the poor believers themselves, falsifying the
Truth he will never acknowledge: all these people were demonized by no other
than himself Benny Hinn, the False Prophets of TBN and also by unscrupulous
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers.
Benny Hinn is extremely smart, with all these incriminating videos that are
released to the public and also with the existence of so many eye witnesses
testifying about the abomination, he realized that it would be absolutely
ridiculous to still deny the facts..As a real Genius, Benny Hinn pointed
out that these demonic manifestations have only been happening in other
Congregations because he would never allow this to happen in his own
Ministry. By pretending that he is distancing himself from these
controversial Manifestations, Benny Hinn tried to gain the support of honest
and faithful Christians who are publicly voicing their indignation. By the
same token he was looking forward to give some kind of legitimacy to his
Ministry and restore credibility to his severely tarnished public image. The
whole presentation was quite magnificent and even became highly emotional
when Benny Hinn managed to make couple drops of tears appear in his eyes
while he was revealing how hard it was on him to bear the scrutiny of the
News Media together with the harsh Criticisms of other Christians. With
arguments he wanted to be persuasive, he strived to convince the audience
that he was not in the Ministry for the Money. With theatrical gestures, he
asked who wants to be in it for the money? He declared that in his case,
even his own kids at school were called names by their peers. Still Benny
Hinn did not say exactly if his kids were called the Children of
Antichrist?
In Hollywood there are no Actors at all that can ever come close to having
the classiness of Benny Hinn! The only person that comes second after Benny
Hinn and who can stir the Crowd with such level of emotions, is Jan Crouch.
With only very few words spoken out of her mouth in the classic lachrymose
style, Mountains of Dollars are moved to her Banks at each of her live
performances With always the same Repertoire and the same magical script,
the financial Miracle does occur every single time and one drop of tears
from her eyes is worth way over 5 Million dollars of donations! This is not
only showmanship that is involved in the bewitchment of the Christian
Masses, I want to make sure it is clearly understood that all the Prophets
of TBN do have great powers. If you ever listen to them preaching at a
Crusade or in a Revival, they will send you home not only broke but surely
demonized with devils from the lowest hell!
Warning, this may be shocking to some readers, the following link will play
the Video of a Charismatic Church Service:
http://informativechristian.com/bostonchurch.ram
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: ANTICHRISTS LIVE 24/7 |
16 Dec 2004 03:51:40 PM |
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
news:q8a3s0tcej6vinlh12c7qrti6hoobjsavf@4ax.com...
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:16:01 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved
Benny Hinn did not call on his fellow Charismatic and Pentecostal
Ministers
to repent for introducing the worship of devils in the Churches!
Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
Where is there ANY objective evidence of ANY devil????
jw
Benny Hiin
also did not blame at all his good friends Paul and Jan Crouch who for
many
years have promoted these demonic services on TBN and who have played an
important role in causing Thousands of Thousands of innocent believers in
Christ to be demonized. Benny Hinn did not either confess any personal
involvement in this cabal, even though it is a well known fact that he
has
been and he is still demonizing innumerable multitudes of Christians. The
cleverness of this Faith Healer was absolutely remarkable, in his sermon
he
managed to put the blame on the poor believers themselves, falsifying the
Truth he will never acknowledge: all these people were demonized by no
other
than himself Benny Hinn, the False Prophets of TBN and also by
unscrupulous
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers.
Benny Hinn is extremely smart, with all these incriminating videos that
are
released to the public and also with the existence of so many eye
witnesses
testifying about the abomination, he realized that it would be absolutely
ridiculous to still deny the facts..As a real Genius, Benny Hinn pointed
out that these demonic manifestations have only been happening in other
Congregations because he would never allow this to happen in his own
Ministry. By pretending that he is distancing himself from these
controversial Manifestations, Benny Hinn tried to gain the support of
honest
and faithful Christians who are publicly voicing their indignation. By
the
same token he was looking forward to give some kind of legitimacy to his
Ministry and restore credibility to his severely tarnished public image.
The
whole presentation was quite magnificent and even became highly emotional
when Benny Hinn managed to make couple drops of tears appear in his eyes
while he was revealing how hard it was on him to bear the scrutiny of the
News Media together with the harsh Criticisms of other Christians. With
arguments he wanted to be persuasive, he strived to convince the audience
that he was not in the Ministry for the Money. With theatrical gestures,
he
asked who wants to be in it for the money? He declared that in his case,
even his own kids at school were called names by their peers. Still Benny
Hinn did not say exactly if his kids were called the Children of
Antichrist?
In Hollywood there are no Actors at all that can ever come close to
having
the classiness of Benny Hinn! The only person that comes second after
Benny
Hinn and who can stir the Crowd with such level of emotions, is Jan
Crouch.
With only very few words spoken out of her mouth in the classic
lachrymose
style, Mountains of Dollars are moved to her Banks at each of her live
performances With always the same Repertoire and the same magical script,
the financial Miracle does occur every single time and one drop of tears
from her eyes is worth way over 5 Million dollars of donations! This is
not
only showmanship that is involved in the bewitchment of the Christian
Masses, I want to make sure it is clearly understood that all the
Prophets
of TBN do have great powers. If you ever listen to them preaching at a
Crusade or in a Revival, they will send you home not only broke but
surely
demonized with devils from the lowest hell!
Warning, this may be shocking to some readers, the following link will
play
the Video of a Charismatic Church Service:
http://informativechristian.com/bostonchurch.ram
.
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| User: "Ray" |
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16 Dec 2004 08:14:23 PM |
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Where is there ANY objective evidence of ANY devil????
One can look at history and see evil done by the church in God's name. It
would seem the devil is alive and well pulling strings of fear.
Whats better than threatening someone in this life? Threatening them for all
eternity as well. Such allegiance is not what the True God desires. He want
it based on love and not fear, of which a scripture says perfect love casts
out all fear.
What we do to each other we do unto God. Love our enemies, turn the other
cheek. All these things are about stopping the revenge cycle which we see
played out in the middle-east. In order to make friends we need to behave
like friends.
So long as we think of ourselves better than another, and keep thinking in
us and them, we will truly have evil come our way, for such is evil.
You want proof of a devil? Well it's some evidence, and it shows that he
took over some religions a long time ago.
Ironically, it is God working through the non religious which are breaking
down the barriers to bigotry and judgements.
Apostle Pauls says all things are permissable, but not all things are
profitable.
The law is one law of love for all, the golden rule.
What is sin but harmful things. Smoking wont kill you on day one, but it
will gradually have its effect. Doing such a thing is harmful against the
body (not to mention passive smoking shhhh), so such a thing can be
considered sin again the body. And it is sensible sin, and shows the example
of ignorance, whereby it does not kill right away, and so takes time (wisdom
& understanding by experience) to realise it.
The distortion of God's law of Love has been perverted by the devil into
bondage. And it has been done by the church in God's name. There is no
liberty in the churches, and Jesus said, I came that you may have life and
life more abundantly.
Jesus hung out with the drinkers, hookers and tax collectors, of which many
of the religious leaders criticised him. He came to heal the relationships,
the sicknesses and the union between man and God in spirit. Evil jumped on
this work, and distorted it to make it painful. Jesus said by their fruits
you shall know them.
Blessed be the Peace Makers, they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed be the pure of heart, they shall see God.
However you wish to be treated, then treat other like that first.
-----
Scenario of the devil
Hi we are christians and you must submit to us and our God or be damned for
eternity. And if you don't we will kill you (past history). You have to do
it our way, because we know best. Don't question anything, for you can burn
in hell for that too. The end of the world is coming, and you have to fight
or evil will get you.
-----
Scenario of God
Hi we believe in the creator, a God of love, which loves you. A God whose
ways give us peace and life. A God desires us to be in union with Him in
spirit. If we all simply do His ways, we will be living in paradise by our
very own sowing. Mankind grows out of his fears and bigotry, and gains
understanding, and there is world peace, and the world become born again
with the old world passed away. Jesus ways rule our thoughts and motives,
written in our hearts.
and then God gives us a sign that religion is evil, and that 666 is
encrypted to reveal that religion is the enemy of God and mankind. And the
very fundmentalists of the book have made the book more important than God,
and this has made their ways the ways of the beast, and he will be quoting
that very book which warns of him.
PEace
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| User: "stone" |
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17 Dec 2004 03:43:28 PM |
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Ray wrote in message <3irwd.75611$K7.50506@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
Where is there ANY objective evidence of ANY devil????
One can look at history and see evil done by the church in God's name. It
would seem the devil is alive and well pulling strings of fear.
Whats better than threatening someone in this life? Threatening them for
all
eternity as well. Such allegiance is not what the True God desires. He want
it based on love and not fear, of which a scripture says perfect love casts
out all fear.
What we do to each other we do unto God. Love our enemies, turn the other
cheek. All these things are about stopping the revenge cycle which we see
played out in the middle-east. In order to make friends we need to behave
like friends.
So long as we think of ourselves better than another, and keep thinking in
us and them, we will truly have evil come our way, for such is evil.
You want proof of a devil? Well it's some evidence, and it shows that he
took over some religions a long time ago.
Ironically, it is God working through the non religious which are breaking
down the barriers to bigotry and judgements.
Apostle Pauls says all things are permissable, but not all things are
profitable.
The law is one law of love for all, the golden rule.
What is sin but harmful things. Smoking wont kill you on day one, but it
will gradually have its effect. Doing such a thing is harmful against the
body (not to mention passive smoking shhhh), so such a thing can be
considered sin again the body. And it is sensible sin, and shows the
example
of ignorance, whereby it does not kill right away, and so takes time
(wisdom
& understanding by experience) to realise it.
The distortion of God's law of Love has been perverted by the devil into
bondage. And it has been done by the church in God's name. There is no
liberty in the churches, and Jesus said, I came that you may have life and
life more abundantly.
Jesus hung out with the drinkers, hookers and tax collectors, of which many
of the religious leaders criticised him. He came to heal the relationships,
the sicknesses and the union between man and God in spirit. Evil jumped on
this work, and distorted it to make it painful. Jesus said by their fruits
you shall know them.
Blessed be the Peace Makers, they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed be the pure of heart, they shall see God.
However you wish to be treated, then treat other like that first.
-----
Scenario of the devil
Hi we are christians and you must submit to us and our God or be damned for
eternity. And if you don't we will kill you (past history). You have to do
it our way, because we know best. Don't question anything, for you can burn
in hell for that too. The end of the world is coming, and you have to fight
or evil will get you.
-----
Scenario of God
Hi we believe in the creator, a God of love, which loves you. A God whose
ways give us peace and life. A God desires us to be in union with Him in
spirit. If we all simply do His ways, we will be living in paradise by our
very own sowing. Mankind grows out of his fears and bigotry, and gains
understanding, and there is world peace, and the world become born again
with the old world passed away. Jesus ways rule our thoughts and motives,
written in our hearts.
and then God gives us a sign that religion is evil, and that 666 is
encrypted to reveal that religion is the enemy of God and mankind. And the
very fundmentalists of the book have made the book more important than God,
and this has made their ways the ways of the beast, and he will be quoting
that very book which warns of him.
PEace
The fundamentalists are the real Christians. Those people that have
perverted God's Word and preach it wrong are not fundamentalists, and they
are not real Christians.
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| User: "stone" |
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17 Dec 2004 03:46:46 PM |
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Definition of fundamentalist:
A fundamentalist believes in these fundamental doctrines of the Christian
faith which are written in the New Testament.
The infallibillity and literal truth of the Bible as God's inspired Word.
[This can only apply to the real Bible, since the market is flooded with
fake modern Bible versions that have had the words changed. The real Bible
in English is the King James Version.]
The Virgin Birth and complete Deity of Jesus Christ.
The pysical ressurection of Christ and all dead.
The atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world, that Jesus did when He was
crucified.
The Second coming of Christ in bodily form.
Fundamentalists are the real Bible believing Christians.
To be a Christian you must be a believer.
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the
gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned.
For salvation, belief in the Deity of Christ, the resurection of Him from
the dead and the atonement He made for the sins of the world are essential.
If you don't really believe these things, you are not a Christian. - If you
don't become a real Christian, you will go to hell to suffer forever.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that
believeth not shall be damned. Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with
thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath
raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Hebrews 10:29
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who
hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the
covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done
despite unto the Spirit of grace?
[The Blood of Jesus, the blood of the covenant, was for the atonement for
sin. His blood is different from the blood of other men in that respect.
Jesus died for the sins of the world and not for His own sins, because He
never committed any sins. Believe in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, and
repent of practicing sin and God will forgive your sins, because Jesus died
to pay the penalty for your sins, as an atoneing sacrifice on the cross.]
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| User: "Misty" |
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18 Dec 2004 03:30:38 AM |
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stone wrote:
Ray wrote in message <3irwd.75611$K7.50506@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
Where is there ANY objective evidence of ANY devil????
One can look at history and see evil done by the church in God's name. It
would seem the devil is alive and well pulling strings of fear.
Whats better than threatening someone in this life? Threatening them for
all
eternity as well. Such allegiance is not what the True God desires. He want
it based on love and not fear, of which a scripture says perfect love casts
out all fear.
What we do to each other we do unto God. Love our enemies, turn the other
cheek. All these things are about stopping the revenge cycle which we see
played out in the middle-east. In order to make friends we need to behave
like friends.
So long as we think of ourselves better than another, and keep thinking in
us and them, we will truly have evil come our way, for such is evil.
You want proof of a devil? Well it's some evidence, and it shows that he
took over some religions a long time ago.
Ironically, it is God working through the non religious which are breaking
down the barriers to bigotry and judgements.
Apostle Pauls says all things are permissable, but not all things are
profitable.
The law is one law of love for all, the golden rule.
What is sin but harmful things. Smoking wont kill you on day one, but it
will gradually have its effect. Doing such a thing is harmful against the
body (not to mention passive smoking shhhh), so such a thing can be
considered sin again the body. And it is sensible sin, and shows the
example
of ignorance, whereby it does not kill right away, and so takes time
(wisdom
& understanding by experience) to realise it.
The distortion of God's law of Love has been perverted by the devil into
bondage. And it has been done by the church in God's name. There is no
liberty in the churches, and Jesus said, I came that you may have life and
life more abundantly.
Jesus hung out with the drinkers, hookers and tax collectors, of which many
of the religious leaders criticised him. He came to heal the relationships,
the sicknesses and the union between man and God in spirit. Evil jumped on
this work, and distorted it to make it painful. Jesus said by their fruits
you shall know them.
Blessed be the Peace Makers, they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed be the pure of heart, they shall see God.
However you wish to be treated, then treat other like that first.
-----
Scenario of the devil
Hi we are christians and you must submit to us and our God or be damned for
eternity. And if you don't we will kill you (past history). You have to do
it our way, because we know best. Don't question anything, for you can burn
in hell for that too. The end of the world is coming, and you have to fight
or evil will get you.
-----
Scenario of God
Hi we believe in the creator, a God of love, which loves you. A God whose
ways give us peace and life. A God desires us to be in union with Him in
spirit. If we all simply do His ways, we will be living in paradise by our
very own sowing. Mankind grows out of his fears and bigotry, and gains
understanding, and there is world peace, and the world become born again
with the old world passed away. Jesus ways rule our thoughts and motives,
written in our hearts.
and then God gives us a sign that religion is evil, and that 666 is
encrypted to reveal that religion is the enemy of God and mankind. And the
very fundmentalists of the book have made the book more important than God,
and this has made their ways the ways of the beast, and he will be quoting
that very book which warns of him.
PEace
The fundamentalists are the real Christians. Those people that have
perverted God's Word and preach it wrong are not fundamentalists, and they
are not real Christians.
You may well be ever so right.
They are showing profound antichristian to be sure.
M,
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:51:40 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 08:16:01 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved
Benny Hinn did not call on his fellow Charismatic and Pentecostal
Ministers
to repent for introducing the worship of devils in the Churches!
Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
Where is there ANY objective evidence of ANY devil????
#1 you changed the subject.
#2 you are evidence of the Devil.
(hey, you asked)
jw
jw
Benny Hiin
also did not blame at all his good friends Paul and Jan Crouch who for
many
years have promoted these demonic services on TBN and who have played an
important role in causing Thousands of Thousands of innocent believers in
Christ to be demonized. Benny Hinn did not either confess any personal
involvement in this cabal, even though it is a well known fact that he
has
been and he is still demonizing innumerable multitudes of Christians. The
cleverness of this Faith Healer was absolutely remarkable, in his sermon
he
managed to put the blame on the poor believers themselves, falsifying the
Truth he will never acknowledge: all these people were demonized by no
other
than himself Benny Hinn, the False Prophets of TBN and also by
unscrupulous
Charismatic and Pentecostal Ministers.
Benny Hinn is extremely smart, with all these incriminating videos that
are
released to the public and also with the existence of so many eye
witnesses
testifying about the abomination, he realized that it would be absolutely
ridiculous to still deny the facts..As a real Genius, Benny Hinn pointed
out that these demonic manifestations have only been happening in other
Congregations because he would never allow this to happen in his own
Ministry. By pretending that he is distancing himself from these
controversial Manifestations, Benny Hinn tried to gain the support of
honest
and faithful Christians who are publicly voicing their indignation. By
the
same token he was looking forward to give some kind of legitimacy to his
Ministry and restore credibility to his severely tarnished public image.
The
whole presentation was quite magnificent and even became highly emotional
when Benny Hinn managed to make couple drops of tears appear in his eyes
while he was revealing how hard it was on him to bear the scrutiny of the
News Media together with the harsh Criticisms of other Christians. With
arguments he wanted to be persuasive, he strived to convince the audience
that he was not in the Ministry for the Money. With theatrical gestures,
he
asked who wants to be in it for the money? He declared that in his case,
even his own kids at school were called names by their peers. Still Benny
Hinn did not say exactly if his kids were called the Children of
Antichrist?
In Hollywood there are no Actors at all that can ever come close to
having
the classiness of Benny Hinn! The only person that comes second after
Benny
Hinn and who can stir the Crowd with such level of emotions, is Jan
Crouch.
With only very few words spoken out of her mouth in the classic
lachrymose
style, Mountains of Dollars are moved to her Banks at each of her live
performances With always the same Repertoire and the same magical script,
the financial Miracle does occur every single time and one drop of tears
from her eyes is worth way over 5 Million dollars of donations! This is
not
only showmanship that is involved in the bewitchment of the Christian
Masses, I want to make sure it is clearly understood that all the
Prophets
of TBN do have great powers. If you ever listen to them preaching at a
Crusade or in a Revival, they will send you home not only broke but
surely
demonized with devils from the lowest hell!
Warning, this may be shocking to some readers, the following link will
play
the Video of a Charismatic Church Service:
http://informativechristian.com/bostonchurch.ram
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
jw
Hi John,
I thank you for the comment, by the way have you ever heard about this
Australian producer who has published disturbing videos revealing what some
of
these ministers have said while speaking in tongues?
For more information about this matter, visit this link I pasted below:
http://www.cephasministry.com/toronto_unmask.html
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:07:45 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
jw
Hi John,
I thank you for the comment, by the way have you ever heard about this
Australian producer who has published disturbing videos revealing what some
of
these ministers have said while speaking in tongues?
For more information about this matter, visit this link I pasted below:
http://www.cephasministry.com/toronto_unmask.html
Thanks! I'll check on that. If you missed it, when I lived in Los
Angeles during my university/seminary days, I attended the First
Baptist Church of Van Nuys, which so happened to be about a mile down
the road from one of the most famous "pentecostal" (pretender)
churches in the world, Jack Hayford's "Church on the Way" (where Pat
Boone attends).
A number of our members snuck over to Jack's church to check out the
pretenders. Many of our members who leaned pretender left us and went
there. At any rate, there seems to have been such an exodus that our
pastor, Dr. Harold Fickett arranged a delegation to go and witness (in
the pre-camcorder/VHS tape days) and audio tape any "tongues" that
were spoken. If you were not aware of it, Dr. Jack also "speaks in
tongues" as I've heard him do several times.
At any rate, our church got to hear SEVERAL "official" tapes of
"tongues." One of our delegates also happened to be an African, and
bi-lingual. He heard one of Jack's members get up and "preach a
sermon" in tongues. What totally shocked and disgusted the African
delegate was that the tongue was real, just HAPPENED to be in the
delegate's own dialect, and that the "messenger" was delivering a
5-minute blasphemy of Christ, which we were told was "not
translatable." IOW, such gutter language being used in reference to
God that it was unfit even for ADULTS to hear in church.
Another of our delegates (we had a 5,000 member church, so we had a
little of everything/ a lot of some things), happened to be a
completed Jew with a good knowledge of Hebrew.
He got up and recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew (apparently Dr. Jack
doesn't speak Hebrew fluently). As our delegate recited the 23rd Psalm
in Hebrew, one of the "interpreters" got up and began to preach a
sermon that had NOTHING to do with the 23rd Psalm. The delegate
politely waited for the interpreter to finish, then he announced that
the interpretation was a lie, and explained what he had done. To prove
his point, he AGAIN recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew. THAT trick
emptied the church, but just until the next service.
At any rate, where I was going was, there is blasphemy if there is a
foreign language, and the tapes, analyzed by linguists, were of NO
DISCERNIBLE LANGUAGE.
That is, all languages MUST have certain patters to qualify. Nouns,
verbs, prepositions, adjectives, adverbs, pronouns, pauses,
inflection. Sentences, etc. As in, when the producers of Star Trek
invented the Klingons, they literally invented some 300 words to
create a very crude Klingon language.
God bless!
jw
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17 Dec 2004 08:59:24 PM |
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:07:45 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
jw
Hi John,
I thank you for the comment, by the way have you ever heard about this
Australian producer who has published disturbing videos revealing what
some
of
these ministers have said while speaking in tongues?
For more information about this matter, visit this link I pasted below:
http://www.cephasministry.com/toronto_unmask.html
Thanks! I'll check on that. If you missed it, when I lived in Los
Angeles during my university/seminary days, I attended the First
Baptist Church of Van Nuys, which so happened to be about a mile down
the road from one of the most famous "pentecostal" (pretender)
churches in the world, Jack Hayford's "Church on the Way" (where Pat
Boone attends).
A number of our members snuck over to Jack's church to check out the
pretenders. Many of our members who leaned pretender left us and went
there. At any rate, there seems to have been such an exodus that our
pastor, Dr. Harold Fickett arranged a delegation to go and witness (in
the pre-camcorder/VHS tape days) and audio tape any "tongues" that
were spoken. If you were not aware of it, Dr. Jack also "speaks in
tongues" as I've heard him do several times.
At any rate, our church got to hear SEVERAL "official" tapes of
"tongues." One of our delegates also happened to be an African, and
bi-lingual. He heard one of Jack's members get up and "preach a
sermon" in tongues. What totally shocked and disgusted the African
delegate was that the tongue was real, just HAPPENED to be in the
delegate's own dialect, and that the "messenger" was delivering a
5-minute blasphemy of Christ, which we were told was "not
translatable." IOW, such gutter language being used in reference to
God that it was unfit even for ADULTS to hear in church.
Another of our delegates (we had a 5,000 member church, so we had a
little of everything/ a lot of some things), happened to be a
completed Jew with a good knowledge of Hebrew.
He got up and recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew (apparently Dr. Jack
doesn't speak Hebrew fluently). As our delegate recited the 23rd Psalm
in Hebrew, one of the "interpreters" got up and began to preach a
sermon that had NOTHING to do with the 23rd Psalm. The delegate
politely waited for the interpreter to finish, then he announced that
the interpretation was a lie, and explained what he had done. To prove
his point, he AGAIN recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew. THAT trick
emptied the church, but just until the next service.
At any rate, where I was going was, there is blasphemy if there is a
foreign language, and the tapes, analyzed by linguists, were of NO
DISCERNIBLE LANGUAGE.
That is, all languages MUST have certain patters to qualify. Nouns,
verbs, prepositions, adjectives, adverbs, pronouns, pauses,
inflection. Sentences, etc. As in, when the producers of Star Trek
invented the Klingons, they literally invented some 300 words to
create a very crude Klingon language.
God bless!
jw
This is extremely interesting John!
Thanks for sharing!
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18 Dec 2004 08:50:05 PM |
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:59:24 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:07:45 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
jw
Hi John,
I thank you for the comment, by the way have you ever heard about this
Australian producer who has published disturbing videos revealing what
some
of
these ministers have said while speaking in tongues?
For more information about this matter, visit this link I pasted below:
http://www.cephasministry.com/toronto_unmask.html
Thanks! I'll check on that. If you missed it, when I lived in Los
Angeles during my university/seminary days, I attended the First
Baptist Church of Van Nuys, which so happened to be about a mile down
the road from one of the most famous "pentecostal" (pretender)
churches in the world, Jack Hayford's "Church on the Way" (where Pat
Boone attends).
A number of our members snuck over to Jack's church to check out the
pretenders. Many of our members who leaned pretender left us and went
there. At any rate, there seems to have been such an exodus that our
pastor, Dr. Harold Fickett arranged a delegation to go and witness (in
the pre-camcorder/VHS tape days) and audio tape any "tongues" that
were spoken. If you were not aware of it, Dr. Jack also "speaks in
tongues" as I've heard him do several times.
At any rate, our church got to hear SEVERAL "official" tapes of
"tongues." One of our delegates also happened to be an African, and
bi-lingual. He heard one of Jack's members get up and "preach a
sermon" in tongues. What totally shocked and disgusted the African
delegate was that the tongue was real, just HAPPENED to be in the
delegate's own dialect, and that the "messenger" was delivering a
5-minute blasphemy of Christ, which we were told was "not
translatable." IOW, such gutter language being used in reference to
God that it was unfit even for ADULTS to hear in church.
Another of our delegates (we had a 5,000 member church, so we had a
little of everything/ a lot of some things), happened to be a
completed Jew with a good knowledge of Hebrew.
He got up and recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew (apparently Dr. Jack
doesn't speak Hebrew fluently). As our delegate recited the 23rd Psalm
in Hebrew, one of the "interpreters" got up and began to preach a
sermon that had NOTHING to do with the 23rd Psalm. The delegate
politely waited for the interpreter to finish, then he announced that
the interpretation was a lie, and explained what he had done. To prove
his point, he AGAIN recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew. THAT trick
emptied the church, but just until the next service.
At any rate, where I was going was, there is blasphemy if there is a
foreign language, and the tapes, analyzed by linguists, were of NO
DISCERNIBLE LANGUAGE.
That is, all languages MUST have certain patters to qualify. Nouns,
verbs, prepositions, adjectives, adverbs, pronouns, pauses,
inflection. Sentences, etc. As in, when the producers of Star Trek
invented the Klingons, they literally invented some 300 words to
create a very crude Klingon language.
God bless!
jw
This is extremely interesting John!
Thanks for sharing!
You are so welcome!
Another point I might share is that, when Jack's church / Jack and his
elders got wind of what we had done with the tapes, they were furious
that we hadn't all become pretenders.
Apparently in defending his different POV, Dr. Fickett had remarked to
one of the pretenders, "Oh, I have had a VERY special experience with
the Holy Spirit.' Meaning he had received the Baptism at spiritual
birth and it was totally sufficient.
The pretenders, however, ASSUMED he meant that he had been "baptized
in the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues."
Dr. Fickett heard this rubbish, and said, "that's not what I said."
The pretenders, who cannot see past their pointed noses, responded,
"That's EXACTLY what you said!!!" and arranged to have Dr. Fickett
deposed by several attorneys, under oath. "To prove he was lying."
I got wind of that and approached a couple of the elders with my
concern. That was one of the few times I confronted Dr. Fickett
directly. If the pretenders were sending attorneys to depose Dr.
Fickett and prove he was lying, I saw NO evidence of the Holy Spirit
being involved, and if the Holy Spirit wasn't involved, the proposed
activity was NOT of God, and I would scream bloody murder if Dr.
Fickett KNOWINGLY involved himself in ungodly behavior, for ANY
reason. He agreed completely, and the deposition never happened.
A few of my pretender acquaintances from Jack's church confronted ME
about Dr Fickett being "yellow." When I explained my / his POV, the
issue was dropped; HASTILY, I might add.
God bless!
jw
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On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 21:59:24 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 12:07:45 -0500, "David Matthieu P.P."
<johnrevelation7@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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Not to nitpick, but there is only ONE "devil." The word you wish to
use, I believe, is "demons."
jw
Hi John,
I thank you for the comment, by the way have you ever heard about this
Australian producer who has published disturbing videos revealing what
some
of
these ministers have said while speaking in tongues?
For more information about this matter, visit this link I pasted below:
http://www.cephasministry.com/toronto_unmask.html
Thanks! I'll check on that. If you missed it, when I lived in Los
Angeles during my university/seminary days, I attended the First
Baptist Church of Van Nuys, which so happened to be about a mile down
the road from one of the most famous "pentecostal" (pretender)
churches in the world, Jack Hayford's "Church on the Way" (where Pat
Boone attends).
A number of our members snuck over to Jack's church to check out the
pretenders. Many of our members who leaned pretender left us and went
there. At any rate, there seems to have been such an exodus that our
pastor, Dr. Harold Fickett arranged a delegation to go and witness (in
the pre-camcorder/VHS tape days) and audio tape any "tongues" that
were spoken. If you were not aware of it, Dr. Jack also "speaks in
tongues" as I've heard him do several times.
At any rate, our church got to hear SEVERAL "official" tapes of
"tongues." One of our delegates also happened to be an African, and
bi-lingual. He heard one of Jack's members get up and "preach a
sermon" in tongues. What totally shocked and disgusted the African
delegate was that the tongue was real, just HAPPENED to be in the
delegate's own dialect, and that the "messenger" was delivering a
5-minute blasphemy of Christ, which we were told was "not
translatable." IOW, such gutter language being used in reference to
God that it was unfit even for ADULTS to hear in church.
Another of our delegates (we had a 5,000 member church, so we had a
little of everything/ a lot of some things), happened to be a
completed Jew with a good knowledge of Hebrew.
He got up and recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew (apparently Dr. Jack
doesn't speak Hebrew fluently). As our delegate recited the 23rd Psalm
in Hebrew, one of the "interpreters" got up and began to preach a
sermon that had NOTHING to do with the 23rd Psalm. The delegate
politely waited for the interpreter to finish, then he announced that
the interpretation was a lie, and explained what he had done. To prove
his point, he AGAIN recited the 23rd Psalm in Hebrew. THAT trick
emptied the church, but just until the next service.
At any rate, where I was going was, there is blasphemy if there is a
foreign language, and the tapes, analyzed by linguists, were of NO
DISCERNIBLE LANGUAGE.
That is, all languages MUST have certain patters to qualify. Nouns,
verbs, prepositions, adjectives, adverbs, pronouns, pauses,
inflection. Sentences, etc. As in, when the producers of Star Trek
invented the Klingons, they literally invented some 300 words to
create a very crude Klingon language.
I just re-read this and noticed that I left this last thought
incomplete.
The linguists who studied the audio tapes supplied HAPPILY by Dr.
Jack (to prove "tongues") did just the opposite.
The language-analyzing computers, re-programmed for PRECISELY this
purpose, "detected NO discernible language patterns. IOW, it's
gibberish".)
But we already KNEW THAT!
:-)
I might note also that the same tapes were played back to several
"interpreters" in isolated conditions. IOW, interpreter A was put in
room A, interpreter be in room B, interpreter C in room C.
Each was played all the tapes; each's "interpretation" was recorded
and analyzed.
Each "interpreter" gave a VASTLY different "interpretation" of the
same sounds.
That is not possible; yet the pretenders I've confronted with those
facts have said, "that's no problem..."
They're duped, and brain dead.
jw
God bless!
jw
This is extremely interesting John!
Thanks for sharing!
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