Religions > Bible > Are "Pastor Dave" and "David V" identities of the same troll? was: Re: Jesus is the SUN of god
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Are "Pastor Dave" and "David V" identities of the same troll? was: Re: Jesus is the SUN of god |
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BM
Why do you bother with the bilious blather of David V.?
Are you really that much of a fool?
Probably so, but my foolishness does not negate the fact that your posts
are so much bilious blather. How long did you have to concentrate to
come up with that profundity? Are not your words merely an example of
the ad hominem logical fallacy? I know this post is longer than two
sentences and your attention span is real short, so think real hard and
try to stay with me. If you have to, read one or two lines and then go
rest for awhile, watch a few minutes of Sponge Bob or Dora the Explorer
or Sesame Street, and then come back and try really hard to get through
the next couple lines. Repeat this until you get all the way through.
You can probably do this if you try really, really hard. Well, maybe .
.. .
Wait a minute . . . let's see here: "Pastor Dave" and "David V" . . .
both tend to give replies such as "No, it does not" and offer no
rebuttal evidence. Both "Pastor Dave" and "David V" have a habit of
ignoring all information that negates their pet theories. Both "Pastor
Dave" and "David V" have very short attention spans and are totally
incapable of responding to any assertion longer longer than one or two
lines of text. "Pastor Dave" and "David V" habitually snip and ignore
all evidence that demonstrates the foolishness of their posts. Both
"Pastor Dave" and "David V" have pet theories that defy all known
concepts of reality such as evolution did not happen and atheism is not
an active negation of a prior assertion . . . and utterly fail to
discern their (his) own blindness to reality and illogic in the face of
overwhelming evidence that his positions are absurd, not to mention
contradictory.
Hot damn, I believe the mystery is solved. Both "Pastor Dave" and
"David V" are the same person using diferent identities trolling the
news groups with his bizarre and screamingly obvious absurdities . . .
And none of this nonsense about different header information in this
guy's posts. That can be easily forged . . .
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18 Aug 2004 09:56:48 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
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Why do you bother with the bilious blather of David V.?
Are you really that much of a fool?
Probably so
Then we agree.
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Why do you bother with the bilious blather of David V.?
Are you really that much of a fool?
Probably so
Then we agree.
But your rather bizarre individualistic notions of historical method and
logic remain fatally flawed and reflect profound ignorance of the
subject matter. And those are true regardless of my stupidity or
foolishness or even mere existence.
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24 Aug 2004 04:24:07 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
But your rather bizarre individualistic notions of
historical method...
Not my notions, but those of historians that know much more
than I do. You're the one trying to defend something that
isn't true, not me.
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24 Aug 2004 08:15:14 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
But your rather bizarre individualistic notions of
historical method...
Not my notions, but those of historians that know much more
than I do. You're the one trying to defend something that
isn't true, not me.
So you claim. Do you understand that vague claims and generalizations
concerning unidentified "historians" are not sufficient to support your
vacuous assertions? Can you name two or three of these historians? How
about a few citations from the work of these historians that you believe
support your bizarre notions? And yes, your notions of historical
method are bizarre, not to mention false. Put up or shut up. I am
rather confident you will do neither, but surprises are nice . . .
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24 Aug 2004 10:14:36 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
But your rather bizarre individualistic notions of
historical method...
Not my notions, but those of historians that know much more
than I do. You're the one trying to defend something that
isn't true, not me.
So you claim.
No, it's not a claim, but I doubt you'd understand the
explanation so I won't even try.
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25 Aug 2004 03:49:27 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
But your rather bizarre individualistic notions of
historical method...
Not my notions, but those of historians that know much more
than I do. You're the one trying to defend something that
isn't true, not me.
So you claim.
No, it's not a claim,
You clueless, nattering nincompoop . . . Yes, it indeed is exactly your
claim. That is precisely what it is. You, David V., are not capable of
backing up your claim with anything more than your own sillyass opinion.
If you could have, you would have.
but I doubt you'd understand the
explanation so I won't even try.
Of course, but I am quite certain I can handle it, you see, I graduated
from collge . . . quite likely before you were born. Why not try me? I
have read in historical method and historiography to greater depths than
you obviously have. I can safely state that assertion because it is
manifestly obvious you are totally ignorant of historical method, and
have never so much as read even a simplistic introduction to the
discipline, so anyone having read a single article or book trumps you.
Why not run Professor Bloch's theory by me? How about Gotschalk's?
Barzun's, perhaps? How about Beard's Marxist method?
The fact is that you concocted this nonsense you consider to be
historical method out of your own sillyass prejudices to support your
juvenile constructs of atheism and your vitriolic hatred of religion.
Your reply is precisely the same sort of dishonest and bilious blather
we have all come to expect from Paster Dave and John Weatherly, which
conclusively proves that fundamentalist Christians have no monopoly when
it comes to posting childish pap and illogical bilge.
You failed to put up even a scrap of evidence for your sillyass notions
of history because you are not capable of doing so. Now why not try to
shut up? A truly forlorn hope . . . but hope springs eternal . . .
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25 Aug 2004 05:58:44 PM |
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Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve? Are
you so sensitive about your little jesus that you cannot
even understand that you have absolutely no basis to claim
he was historical?
It seems you're the one that failed. You have failed,
miserably, to provide any contemporary evidence that the
jesus of the bible ever existed. Now that's "contemporary"
as in; a person of nearly the same age as another, or
belonging to the present time; "contemporary leaders", or
occurring in the same period of time; "a rise in interest
rates is often contemporaneous with an increase in
inflation"; "the composer Salieri was contemporary with
Mozart", or Living or happening in the same period is
contemporary.... you get the idea yet? The garbage you've
been trying to pass of as true has been at least 100 years
*PAST* being contemporary with the biblical jesus.
Now run along, grasshopper. You need to study more.
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25 Aug 2004 08:16:51 PM |
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Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice that your words in this post are
still nothing more than your uninformed and wrongheaded opinon. You
still failed to put up by providing evidence. And you also failed to
shut up. As I anticipated.
Are
you so sensitive about your little jesus that you cannot
even understand that you have absolutely no basis to claim
he was historical?
It seems you're the one that failed. You have failed,
miserably, to provide any contemporary evidence that the
jesus of the bible ever existed.
As you still have not grasped even the most rudimentary concepts
concerning historical sources, you might try pages 48-49, and then pages
52-61, paying special attention to page 59, of Louis Gottschalk's,
"Understanding History." You will find that helpful. Then you should
proceed to pages 154-180, paying special attention to page 157 and pages
159-62, of Jaques Barzun's and Henry F. Graff's "The Modern Researcher."
Then you should examine pages 39-78, examining with special care the
last paragraph on page 41, page 47, paragraph 2 on page 48 through the
first paragraph on page 50, pages 53-54, page 56, and pages 60-64 of
Marc Bloch's "Apologie pour l'Histoire, ou Metier d'Historian"
("Historian's Craft" in the English edition, although the French is
better as it does not suffer the pitfalls of translation). Those
gentlemen are all rather accomplished historians and professors,
Gottschalk from the University of Chicago; Barzun of Columbia and
Cambridge Universities; Graff of Columbia University; and Bloch from the
University of Strasburg and later the University of Paris, as well as
co-founder of the "Annales" school of history and "Annales d'histoire
economique et sociale" (Roughly "Annals of Economic and Social History"
but the translation is mine, but since you assure your erstwhile readers
you have some knowledge of historical method, you must assuredly be
familiar with these men and their work, right? Oh, do you mean that
you, David V., have not the first clue about these men and their work?
Golly, I must confess that does not surprise me . . .)
Then you might consider picking up the first volume of Titus Livius' "Ab
Urbe Condita" ("The Early History of Rome" in the English language
Penguin edition) and take a look at pages 33-34. Polybius in his
"Histories" ( In Greek, but is titled "The Rise of the Roman Empire" in
the English language Penguin edition) discusses the nature of historical
method in several places, but I draw your attention to pages 44-47,
especially the first paragraph on page 45. Then examine "Annals" of
Cornelius Tacitus, ("The Annals of Imperial Rome" in the English
language Penguin edition) and note especially pages 32-34, 38-39, and
132-33.
The upshot of all this is that no modern and no ancient historian
supports your very own, highly personalized, and uninformed assumptions
concerning historical method. Yes, I refer to the gobbledygook you
authored immediately below as a prime example of your ludicrous
assumptions. Wherever did you dream up such fantastic folderol? And
why do you try to pass your junior high school twaddle off as legitimate
historical method when it is, at best, inane bombast?
Now that's "contemporary"
as in; a person of nearly the same age as another, or
belonging to the present time; "contemporary leaders", or
occurring in the same period of time; "a rise in interest
rates is often contemporaneous with an increase in
inflation"; "the composer Salieri was contemporary with
Mozart", or Living or happening in the same period is
contemporary.... you get the idea yet? The garbage you've
been trying to pass of as true has been at least 100 years
*PAST* being contemporary with the biblical jesus.
Have you noticed that those are your words above? And most assuredly not
"those of historians that know much more
than I [you, Mr. David V] do," which you claimed to be able to produce,
but failed to Gee, one cannot help but wonder why . . . Anyway, your
pretentious bombast is not evidence of anything except your own sillyass
opinion. Nor are your words even a reasoned argument, for that matter.
And those facts will not change no matter how many times you post them.
Now run along, grasshopper. You need to study more.
It seems I have studied, and produced certain results above, but do not
consider those results exhaustive as there is not a single tome
concerning historical method that supports you. Can you counter those
sources above by genuine experts in historical method with work by real
historians? I don't think you can. You cannot produce a single
credentialed and practicing historian who backs up your bilious blather.
And until you do, you remain the clueless, nattering nincompoop you are,
David V., not capable of backing up your ridiculous claims with anything
more than your own sillyass opinion and absurd assumptions. If you could
have, you would have. By the way, insulting me is also rather
pointless, as gigabytes of insults directed at me are irrelevant to your
position in all cases.
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25 Aug 2004 09:29:21 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I just
deleted what I wasn't interested in reading. You can run
along now.
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26 Aug 2004 02:25:41 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
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Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I just
deleted what I wasn't interested in reading. You can run
along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish. You demand evidence, and for the
3rd time I provide sources, this time including specific page
references, in specific books by named historians, for precisely such
evidence, and again you tell me that instead of reading the evidence and
responding to the evidence, you claim to have deleted it because you
were not "interested in reading" it. You did not like what the Black
Monk wrote, but instead of attempting to refute his points with real
evidence and logical argumentation like grown ups do, you petulantly
claim to have added him to your kill file. Ignoring the sources and
evidence that disprove your pet theories does not alter the sources and
evidence nor does it make the sources and evidence disappear. The
sources and evidence are still there regardless of your juvenile
reaction to them.
And you still failed to provide the evidence you claimed to have. That
fact, added to the clueless nattering of your post here is yet another
justification for your appellation of clueless, nattering nincompoop.
Wear it proudly. It fits you so well.
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26 Aug 2004 11:54:41 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I just
deleted what I wasn't interested in reading. You can run
along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus and wrote
down what they saw. Hear-say, or something written 50 or
more years after the alleged events is not acceptable. Since
the authors of the NT were *NOT* witnesses, they never met
the dude and the authors of most, if not all, of the NT are
unknown. Just list the names. No big old long paragraphs of
excuses. Just the list. Is that too much for you to handle?
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27 Aug 2004 12:01:11 PM |
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Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I just
deleted what I wasn't interested in reading. You can run
along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
For every problem there is an elegantly simple solution that is wrong.
Your persistent ignorance of historical method is proof of that
aphorism.
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus and wrote
down what they saw. Hear-say, or something written 50 or
more years after the alleged events is not acceptable. Since
the authors of the NT were *NOT* witnesses, they never met
the dude and the authors of most, if not all, of the NT are
unknown. Just list the names. No big old long paragraphs of
excuses. Just the list. Is that too much for you to handle?
I personally do not believe that these exists any known extant recorded
or written, contemporaraneous, eyewitness account of the life of Jesus.
So what does that prove?
But then I have been saying that for some years right here in this very
same news group. But do not take my word for it, do a google search and
confirm that for yourself, or ask your alter ego paster dave.
All that said, how does that prove Jesus did not live?
You claimed to have the names of historians who agree with your
hypothesis that no human being ever existed unless there are extant
primary sources. You have not produced a single one. Nor will you.
One the other hand, I provided you with the anmes and citations of three
rather good historians who flatly refute your absurd notions. Where is
your list of historians who know more than you? Where is the name of a
single historians who believes that unless any and every human being is
documented by primary sources that these human beings never existed?
"Just list the names. No big old long paragraphs of excuses. Just the
list. Is that too much for you to handle?"
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28 Aug 2004 12:43:46 AM |
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Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit
a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I
just deleted what I wasn't interested in reading.
You can run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
For every problem there is an elegantly simple solution
that is wrong.
I assume that means that you cannot back up your claims with
facts. Why didn't you just say that in the first place?
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27 Aug 2004 12:02:39 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 21:54:41 -0700, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I just
deleted what I wasn't interested in reading. You can run
along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus and wrote
down what they saw. Hear-say, or something written 50 or
more years after the alleged events is not acceptable. Since
the authors of the NT were *NOT* witnesses, they never met
the dude and the authors of most, if not all, of the NT are
unknown. Just list the names. No big old long paragraphs of
excuses. Just the list. Is that too much for you to handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has provided nothing of the
sort.
His attempts at being an intellectual bully have been quite amusing,
though. Much better than summer reruns on TV.
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27 Aug 2004 12:13:25 AM |
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maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit
a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I
just deleted what I wasn't interested in reading.
You can run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus and
wrote down what they saw. Hear-say, or something
written 50 or more years after the alleged events is
not acceptable. Since the authors of the NT were *NOT*
witnesses, they never met the dude and the authors of
most, if not all, of the NT are unknown. Just list the
names. No big old long paragraphs of excuses. Just the
list. Is that too much for you to handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has provided
nothing of the sort. His attempts at being an
intellectual bully have been quite amusing, though. Much
better than summer reruns on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for the benefit of
those that need to see how foolish these revisionists can get.
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27 Aug 2004 03:11:53 PM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit
a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I
just deleted what I wasn't interested in reading.
You can run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus and
wrote down what they saw. Hear-say, or something
written 50 or more years after the alleged events is
not acceptable. Since the authors of the NT were *NOT*
witnesses, they never met the dude and the authors of
most, if not all, of the NT are unknown. Just list the
names. No big old long paragraphs of excuses. Just the
list. Is that too much for you to handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has provided
nothing of the sort. His attempts at being an
intellectual bully have been quite amusing, though. Much
better than summer reruns on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for the benefit of
those that need to see how foolish these revisionists can get.
Where did this quotation come from? "I do not believe there exists a
single contemporaneous, eyewitness
account -- and that is by definition a primary historical source-- of
Jesus." Actually, I wrote and posted those words on 2003-06-20 14:40:27
PST. You can confirm this at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=historical+jesus+didymos&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=X8LIa.5108%24C83.489168%40newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rn
um=3
Oh, and I have addressed this same issue many times over the years.
See, for example, this thread and note the date at
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=historical+jesus+pastor+dave&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=ZUz6a.128%24M85.10934%40newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=4.
Or you could try this one and note the date at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=historical+jesus+didymos&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=itx0c.15719%24aT1.8530%40newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net&rnum=1.
By damn, you yourself entered that very thread. Or was it a different
"David V."? And didn't someone using my name state rather baldly in
this thread that there is probably no known extant primary source for
Jesus? Actually, yes, but it was me.
Or you could read this thread, also noting the date:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=historical+jesus+didymos&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=GZP3c.32426%24aT1.4192%40newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net&rnum=7
Or you could try this one and note the date at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=historical+jesus+didymos&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=X8LIa.5108%24C83.489168%40newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net&rnum=3.
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Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I
hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper.
I just deleted what I wasn't interested in
reading. You can run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus
and wrote down what they saw. Hear-say, or
something written 50 or more years after the
alleged events is not acceptable. Since the authors
of the NT were *NOT* witnesses, they never met the
dude and the authors of most, if not all, of the
NT are unknown. Just list the names. No big old
long paragraphs of excuses. Just the list. Is that
too much for you to handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has provided
nothing of the sort. His attempts at being an
intellectual bully have been quite amusing, though.
Much better than summer reruns on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for the
benefit of those that need to see how foolish these
revisionists can get.
Where did this quotation come from?
What quotation?
--
David V.
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28 Aug 2004 02:02:14 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:46:57 -0700, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I
hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper.
I just deleted what I wasn't interested in
reading. You can run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus
and wrote down what they saw. Hear-say, or
something written 50 or more years after the
alleged events is not acceptable. Since the authors
of the NT were *NOT* witnesses, they never met the
dude and the authors of most, if not all, of the
NT are unknown. Just list the names. No big old
long paragraphs of excuses. Just the list. Is that
too much for you to handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has provided
nothing of the sort. His attempts at being an
intellectual bully have been quite amusing, though.
Much better than summer reruns on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for the
benefit of those that need to see how foolish these
revisionists can get.
Where did this quotation come from?
What quotation?
LOL!
I've got my own troll who thinks that when I put forth a question, I
am required to answer it for him. I guess it's to free up his time so
that he can be a bigger jackass.
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28 Aug 2004 10:52:50 AM |
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maf & dog, inc. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:46:57 -0700, "David V."
<spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper?
Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything,
grasshopper. I just deleted what I wasn't
interested in reading. You can run along
now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and
look at yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this
jesus and wrote down what they saw. Hear-say,
or something written 50 or more years after the
alleged events is not acceptable. Since the
authors of the NT were *NOT* witnesses, they
never met the dude and the authors of most, if
not all, of the NT are unknown. Just list the
names. No big old long paragraphs of excuses.
Just the list. Is that too much for you to
handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has
provided nothing of the sort. His attempts at
being an intellectual bully have been quite
amusing, though. Much better than summer reruns
on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for the
benefit of those that need to see how foolish these
revisionists can get.
Where did this quotation come from?
What quotation?
LOL! I've got my own troll who thinks that when I put
forth a question, I am required to answer it for him. I
guess it's to free up his time so that he can be a bigger
jackass.
I love doing that. It just gets them madder. They never
realize that I'm just leading them along.
--
David V.
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29 Aug 2004 01:37:42 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 08:52:50 -0700, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:46:57 -0700, "David V."
<spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper?
Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything,
grasshopper. I just deleted what I wasn't
interested in reading. You can run along
now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and
look at yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this
jesus and wrote down what they saw. Hear-say,
or something written 50 or more years after the
alleged events is not acceptable. Since the
authors of the NT were *NOT* witnesses, they
never met the dude and the authors of most, if
not all, of the NT are unknown. Just list the
names. No big old long paragraphs of excuses.
Just the list. Is that too much for you to
handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has
provided nothing of the sort. His attempts at
being an intellectual bully have been quite
amusing, though. Much better than summer reruns
on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for the
benefit of those that need to see how foolish these
revisionists can get.
Where did this quotation come from?
What quotation?
LOL! I've got my own troll who thinks that when I put
forth a question, I am required to answer it for him. I
guess it's to free up his time so that he can be a bigger
jackass.
I love doing that. It just gets them madder. They never
realize that I'm just leading them along.
It was fun. It totally revealed Roger for exactly what he is, contrary
to his claims of being a dispassionate, "rational" <insert laughter
here> scholar. It made my day seeing him resort to name-calling.
Watching him sputter verbally like a leaky pipe was quite amusing,
too.
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30 Aug 2004 12:35:35 AM |
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maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter,
grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to
notice
I have failed to notice anything,
grasshopper. I just deleted what I
wasn't interested in reading. You can
run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and
look at yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met
this jesus and wrote down what they saw.
Hear-say, or something written 50 or more
years after the alleged events is not
acceptable. Since the authors of the NT
were *NOT* witnesses, they never met the
dude and the authors of most, if not all,
of the NT are unknown. Just list the names.
No big old long paragraphs of excuses. Just
the list. Is that too much for you to
handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has
provided nothing of the sort. His attempts at
being an intellectual bully have been quite
amusing, though. Much better than summer
reruns on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for
the benefit of those that need to see how
foolish these revisionists can get.
Where did this quotation come from?
What quotation?
LOL! I've got my own troll who thinks that when I put
forth a question, I am required to answer it for
him. I guess it's to free up his time so that he can
be a bigger jackass.
I love doing that. It just gets them madder. They never
realize that I'm just leading them along.
It was fun. It totally revealed Roger for exactly what he
is, contrary to his claims of being a dispassionate,
"rational" <insert laughter here> scholar. It made my day
seeing him resort to name-calling. Watching him sputter
verbally like a leaky pipe was quite amusing, too.
They do get so upset, don't they. For little roger a
"rational" scholar is anyone that agrees with him. If these
guys would put as much effort into really thinking instead
of trying to bend reality, they might actually get somewhere.
--
David V.
UDP for WebTV
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30 Aug 2004 03:52:42 AM |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:35:35 -0700, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter,
grasshopper? Did I hit a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to
notice
I have failed to notice anything,
grasshopper. I just deleted what I
wasn't interested in reading. You can
run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and
look at yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met
this jesus and wrote down what they saw.
Hear-say, or something written 50 or more
years after the alleged events is not
acceptable. Since the authors of the NT
were *NOT* witnesses, they never met the
dude and the authors of most, if not all,
of the NT are unknown. Just list the names.
No big old long paragraphs of excuses. Just
the list. Is that too much for you to
handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has
provided nothing of the sort. His attempts at
being an intellectual bully have been quite
amusing, though. Much better than summer
reruns on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for
the benefit of those that need to see how
foolish these revisionists can get.
Where did this quotation come from?
What quotation?
LOL! I've got my own troll who thinks that when I put
forth a question, I am required to answer it for
him. I guess it's to free up his time so that he can
be a bigger jackass.
I love doing that. It just gets them madder. They never
realize that I'm just leading them along.
It was fun. It totally revealed Roger for exactly what he
is, contrary to his claims of being a dispassionate,
"rational" <insert laughter here> scholar. It made my day
seeing him resort to name-calling. Watching him sputter
verbally like a leaky pipe was quite amusing, too.
They do get so upset, don't they. For little roger a
"rational" scholar is anyone that agrees with him.
Exactly.
Of course, Roger ***** also operates under the delusion that atheism
is a religion, atheists proselytize, and atheism is an irrational
religion while his is totally rational.
If these
guys would put as much effort into really thinking instead
of trying to bend reality, they might actually get somewhere.
As a former theist/cradle Catholic, I can say that reality is far more
appealing when accepted for what it is.
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30 Aug 2004 01:04:28 PM |
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maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
....
They do get so upset, don't they. For little roger a
"rational" scholar is anyone that agrees with him.
Exactly. Of course, Roger ***** also operates under the
delusion that atheism is a religion, atheists
proselytize, and atheism is an irrational religion while
his is totally rational.
Roger is one of those backwards people. His brain is wired
backwards. Almost everything he says is the exact opposite
of reality. I've seen that in several people, usually
conservative and christian. I wonder.... brain injury?
If these guys would put as much effort into really
thinking instead of trying to bend reality, they might
actually get somewhere.
As a former theist/cradle Catholic, I can say that
reality is far more appealing when accepted for what it
is.
Appealing, fascinating, wondrous, and all the stuff they're
looking for is right there without any need to create gods.
Part of their problem is that they need a replacement father
figure; someone that makes them the center of the universe.
A creator god does just that. Without that god they're just
an animal living on a small planet orbiting an average star
in a mediocre galaxy in a cold, uncaring, Universe.
--
David V.
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30 Aug 2004 05:16:23 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:04:28 -0700, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
...
They do get so upset, don't they. For little roger a
"rational" scholar is anyone that agrees with him.
Exactly. Of course, Roger ***** also operates under the
delusion that atheism is a religion, atheists
proselytize, and atheism is an irrational religion while
his is totally rational.
Roger is one of those backwards people. His brain is wired
backwards. Almost everything he says is the exact opposite
of reality. I've seen that in several people, usually
conservative and christian. I wonder.... brain injury?
Cult programming?
If these guys would put as much effort into really
thinking instead of trying to bend reality, they might
actually get somewhere.
As a former theist/cradle Catholic, I can say that
reality is far more appealing when accepted for what it
is.
Appealing, fascinating, wondrous, and all the stuff they're
looking for is right there without any need to create gods.
Part of their problem is that they need a replacement father
figure; someone that makes them the center of the universe.
And that so ties in with your "wired backwards" comment, since their
deity is supposed to be the center of the universe.
A creator god does just that. Without that god they're just
an animal living on a small planet orbiting an average star
in a mediocre galaxy in a cold, uncaring, Universe.
Big whoo. So go do something with your life besides go down on your
knees to do...... nothing.
It's such a simple concept.
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30 Aug 2004 08:26:20 PM |
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maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Roger is one of those backwards people. His brain is
wired backwards. Almost everything he says is the exact
opposite of reality. I've seen that in several people,
usually conservative and christian. I wonder.... brain
injury?
Cult programming?
Could be. Christian programming starts early and is hard to
deprogram once it's set.
Appealing, fascinating, wondrous, and all the stuff
they're looking for is right there without any need to
create gods. Part of their problem is that they need a
replacement father figure; someone that makes them the
center of the universe.
And that so ties in with your "wired backwards" comment,
since their deity is supposed to be the center of the
universe.
It also ties in with your programming. There's a giant dose
of herd mentality there too.
A creator god does just that. Without that god they're
just an animal living on a small planet orbiting an
average star in a mediocre galaxy in a cold, uncaring,
Universe.
Big whoo. So go do something with your life besides go
down on your knees to do...... nothing. It's such a
simple concept.
The funny part is that they claim a god gives them a
purpose. That purpose is to kiss that gods *****. I have
better things to do and can come up with a better purpose
myself - help my fellow humans.
--
David V.
UDP for WebTV
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31 Aug 2004 03:27:44 AM |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:26:20 -0700, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Roger is one of those backwards people. His brain is
wired backwards. Almost everything he says is the exact
opposite of reality. I've seen that in several people,
usually conservative and christian. I wonder.... brain
injury?
Cult programming?
Could be. Christian programming starts early and is hard to
deprogram once it's set.
Tell me about it.
Appealing, fascinating, wondrous, and all the stuff
they're looking for is right there without any need to
create gods. Part of their problem is that they need a
replacement father figure; someone that makes them the
center of the universe.
And that so ties in with your "wired backwards" comment,
since their deity is supposed to be the center of the
universe.
It also ties in with your programming. There's a giant dose
of herd mentality there too.
Similar to mob mentality, no doubt.
A creator god does just that. Without that god they're
just an animal living on a small planet orbiting an
average star in a mediocre galaxy in a cold, uncaring,
Universe.
Big whoo. So go do something with your life besides go
down on your knees to do...... nothing. It's such a
simple concept.
The funny part is that they claim a god gives them a
purpose. That purpose is to kiss that gods *****.
What's that old story about the two missionaries who come up to a
guy's door and try to recruit him into the cult of Hank? They keep
saying "All you have to do is kiss Hank's *****."
I have
better things to do and can come up with a better purpose
myself - help my fellow humans.
My big goal is to make my little corner of the world a better, more
civilized place through chamber music. And as of this afternoon, there
are 115 people (on our mailing list) who agree with and approve of
that endeavor.
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31 Aug 2004 05:01:48 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:27:44 GMT, "maf & dog, inc. " <m@f.chezchien>
wrote:
My big goal is to make my little corner of the world a better, more
civilized place through chamber music. And as of this afternoon, there
are 115 people (on our mailing list) who agree with and approve of
that endeavor.
Now that's cool!
I play guitar and keyboard, but the alt. guitar groups usually end up
with endless discussions on how long the fingernails should be and the
piano group ends up in endless debates on how a real piano is better
than a keyboard ... would be nice to have some groups for discussion
of music.
©¿©
Terrell
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31 Aug 2004 05:24:47 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 10:01:48 GMT, Terrell D Lewis
<composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:27:44 GMT, "maf & dog, inc. " <m@f.chezchien>
wrote:
My big goal is to make my little corner of the world a better, more
civilized place through chamber music. And as of this afternoon, there
are 115 people (on our mailing list) who agree with and approve of
that endeavor.
Now that's cool!
We think so, too. <g>
Now we just have to find a new "home" for our series this season.
I play guitar and keyboard, but the alt. guitar groups usually end up
with endless discussions on how long the fingernails should be
Not cut down to the nubs and not so long that one can snort cocaine
off them, why do you ask? <g>
and the
piano group ends up in endless debates on how a real piano is better
than a keyboard ...
Well, it's true........
would be nice to have some groups for discussion
of music.
If you think the theists are vitriolic, acid-tongued, harpy-shrews
from the bowels of Hell when their beliefs are questioned, try
discussing the results of forcing atonality on concert audiences with
musicologists. Yow-zaa!
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31 Aug 2004 12:05:12 PM |
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maf & dog, inc. wrote:
My big goal is to make my little corner of the world a
better, more civilized place through chamber music. And
as of this afternoon, there are 115 people (on our
mailing list) who agree with and approve of that
endeavor.
A noble endeavor. Music and laughter are two thing that bind
people together in a positive way.
My job is to get people to care a bit more for the
environment a bit better by showing it to them. I lead
nature hikes and get city people out into the woods to show
them how beautiful, amazing, and fragile nature really is.
When I did this in the San Francisco Bay Area I used the
llamas as a draw to get people to come on the hikes.
--
David V.
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27 Aug 2004 02:46:48 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 22:13:25 -0700, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
maf & dog, inc. wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Didymos wrote:
"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote
Ah... What's the matter, grasshopper? Did I hit
a nerve?
I am quite certain you failed to notice
I have failed to notice anything, grasshopper. I
just deleted what I wasn't interested in reading.
You can run along now.
Your behavior is sillyand childish....
ROTFLMFAO! You need to take a step back and look at
yourself, little one.
I'll make it simple for you:
Provide the names of all those that met this jesus and
wrote down what they saw. Hear-say, or something
written 50 or more years after the alleged events is
not acceptable. Since the authors of the NT were *NOT*
witnesses, they never met the dude and the authors of
most, if not all, of the NT are unknown. Just list the
names. No big old long paragraphs of excuses. Just the
list. Is that too much for you to handle?
It's been at least two months, and he has provided
nothing of the sort. His attempts at being an
intellectual bully have been quite amusing, though. Much
better than summer reruns on TV.
I know he can't answer but I'm doing this for the benefit of
those that need to see how foolish these revisionists can get.
I know the feeling. I'm still waiting for an answer to "Can God create
a rock which he/she can't lift?"
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