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"guardian Snow" |
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06 Jan 2008 06:02:30 PM |
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Are you ready for war? |
On Jan 7, 6:47 am, Nicodemus <publicem...@goodnews.net> wrote:
Do you have a vision?
Mat 26:41 =E2=80=9CWatch and pray, lest you enter into trial. The spirit
indeed is eager, but the flesh is weak.=E2=80=9D
Here we see that the body and the soul do not agree on things. This
example is from the betrayal of none other then the very Rock of the
Christian church, Peter. What he wanted to do and what he did were two
different things and this is spiritual warfare at the core.
Luk 24:39 =E2=80=9CSee My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me
and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I
have.=E2=80=9D
We can easily make clear distinctions between the desires of the body
and the will of the spirit and it=E2=80=99s this very thing that needs to be=
addressed.
Job 4:15 Then a spirit passed before my face, the hair on my body
stood up. 16 It stood still, but I could not discern its appearance.
A form was before my eyes =E2=80=93 silence, then a voice I heard,
We=E2=80=99ve all had those moments when the hairs on our body stood up and =
we
felt spiritual movement but possibly a majority of us didn=E2=80=99t recogni=
ze
this as such. It=E2=80=99s not necessarily our spirit that is moving but in=
those moments we can learn to recognize the voice.
Eze 3:12 And the Spirit lifted me up, and behind me I heard the sound
of a great rumbling voice, =E2=80=9CBlessed be the esteem of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=
=95=D7=94 from His
place,=E2=80=9D
Now not all voices are those we should listen too and in fact we need
to discern the messages being given to us. We must use our own
judgment because just as the Elohim speaks many times to his people,
so do those of evil spirits that would lead us away from the truth.
There is such an example in scripture:
Eph 6:12 Because we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but
against principalities, against authorities, against the world-rulers
of the darkness of this age, against spiritual matters of wickedness
in the heavenlies.
This is absolutely not the truth! We do wrestle with flesh and blood
and everyday, it=E2=80=99s usually our own. You don=E2=80=99t believe me, a=
sk any
pack a day cigarette smoker if he wrestles with his own flesh. The
spirit is telling him to quick and he=E2=80=99ll say, =E2=80=9CI wish I coul=
d, or I
want to quit but I can=E2=80=99t..=E2=80=9D The spirit is willing but the f=
lesh is
weak. Everyday we wrestle against flesh and blood and it=E2=80=99s for this=
very reason that the Messiah on many occasions spoke about fasting.
Mat 17:20 And =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=A9=D7=A2 said to them, =E2=80=9CBecause =
of your unbelief, for
truly, I say to you, if you have belief as a mustard seed, you shall
say to this mountain, =E2=80=98Move from here to there,=E2=80=99 and it shal=
l move.
And no matter shall be impossible for you. 21 =E2=80=9CBut this kind does n=
ot
go out except through prayer and fasting.=E2=80=9D
The practice of fasting, is the practice of denial of the flesh and we
strengthen the spirit by this very action. In the realm of spiritual
warfare there is no greater weapon then giving up our fleshly desires
and seeking the desire of our Father by prayer.
Rev 9:21 And they did not repent of their murders, nor of their drug
sorceries, nor of their whoring, nor of their thefts.
The issue of drug sorceries enters into the realm of spiritual warfare
and cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol and prescription drugs can all fit
into this category. When we consider these elements of body verses
the spirit we see all to clearly the aspects of spiritual warfare
wrestling against the desires of the body. Nobody wants to be a crack
addict or an alcoholic yet the modern world is filled with people who
suffer from these demons. Maybe you=E2=80=99ve heard the term, =E2=80=9Ca m=
onkey on
my back=E2=80=9D and it=E2=80=99s spiritual warfare at the primal level. So=
the war
we have is between flesh and blood, the body and spirit.
To be continued,
Snow
http://www.isr-messianic.org/
A Christian is nothing but a sinful man who has put himself to school
for Christ for the honest purpose of becoming better. If a man cannot
be a Christian in the place where he is, he cannot be a Christian
anywhere.
Henry Ward Beecher
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: War of the flesh. |
06 Jan 2008 07:20:33 PM |
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On Jan 7, 11:02 am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Drugs, alcohol and cigarettes wouldn=E2=80=99t be considered as part of the
topic of spiritual warfare normally but I believe they have a high
priority.
Mar 14:38 =E2=80=9CWatch and pray, lest you enter into trial. The spirit
indeed is eager, but the flesh is weak.=E2=80=9D
I=E2=80=99ll start with cigarettes because we all know this is the most
controversial idea that I=E2=80=99ve put forward as being part of spiritual
warfare.
Cigarettes are legal even if they are considered a filthy habit and
those who suffer from addiction are sent outside like lepers into a
colony. We congregate outside your office doors in the freezing cold,
suffering to have another drag. We can=E2=80=99t run up the stairs without
running out of breath and yet we continue to smoke, it=E2=80=99s our right t=
o
do with our body as we please=E2=80=A6.
1Co 7:23 You were bought with a price, do not become slaves of men.
You are a slave to the cigarette and are paying tithes to the
multinational corporations that sell them to you. Life is for living
to the fullest and we sell ourselves short if we smoke.
Psa 23:1 =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is my shepherd; I do not lack.
Can we say this with all honesty if we crave another cigarette in an
hour? We know that cigarettes are one of the strongest demons in the
Christian world. If we truly subscribe to the idea that the bible is
the temple, what are we doing polluting it with garbage? As children
of our Father, we are to set ourselves apart from the practices that
destroy and we all know cigarettes to be one of the worst. Now does
that mean that if Joe Camel is attending the church, we cast him out?
Hardly but we should do everything in our power to help him, encourage
him, pray for him and be his quit partner.
Mat 4:23 And =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=A9=D7=A2 went about all Galil, teaching i=
n their
congregations, and proclaiming the Good News of the reign, and healing
every disease and every bodily weakness among the people.
Every bodily weakness must be dealt with in the congregation and
twelve step support programs are a good start and even if it=E2=80=99s not
politically acceptable, we must work together and be at peace with
each other.
Mat 5:9 =E2=80=9CBlessed are the peacemakers, because they shall be called
sons of Elohim.
We can=E2=80=99t force people to quit smoking cigarettes and it wouldn=E2=80=
=99t be
right to do so, period. What I am saying is that we need to encourage
each other by prayers and by spoken word.
What are the net results of smoking? Less money for more enjoyable
things in life. Less money for even charitable things. No energy to
do everyday activities. Even climbing stairs becomes a labor of sweat
and panting because your unable to draw enough air.
Dependancy. I=E2=80=99ve personally was in a situation where I chose to buy=
a
pack of cigarettes over food and that speaks to just how strong those
bodily cravings are. So when the first thing you do is wake up to have
a cigarette, ask yourself, who is the master?
Mat 6:24 =E2=80=9CNo one is able to serve two masters, for either he shall
hate the one and love the other, or else he shall cleave to the one
and despise the other. You are not able to serve Elohim and mammon.
Filth, dirty ashtrays, constant smelling.. If you=E2=80=99re a smoker, you
don=E2=80=99t smell it anymore but the moment anybody else does come around
you or your home, it=E2=80=99s like a giant catbox.
Listen to the spirit in your soul=E2=80=A6 it=E2=80=99s telling us all to qu=
it! It=E2=80=99s
telling us to prepare for war and your not going to be in it reaching
for souls if your more concerned with getting your next pack.
Luk 16:11 =E2=80=9CIf, therefore, you have not been trustworthy in the
unrighteous mammon, who shall entrust to you the true?
One of the first tactics of the unbelievers is to find fault in you.
Luk 16:14 And the Pharisees, who loved silver, also heard all this,
and were sneering at Him,
Luk 16:15 so He said to them, =E2=80=9CYou are those who declare yourselves
righteous before men, but Elohim knows your hearts, because what is
highly thought of among men is an abomination in the sight of Elohim.
Our Father knows are hearts and he wants us to purify ourselves from
the things of this world, he=E2=80=99s calling you personally.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from the heaven saying, =E2=80=9CCome out=
of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of
her plagues.1 Footnote: 1Jer. 51:6 & 45.
To be continued....
Shalom,
Snow
http://www.isr-messianic.org/
He is rich or poor according to what he is, not according to what he
has. Hold yourself responsible for a higher standard than anyone else
expects of you. Never excuse yourself.
Henry Ward Beecher
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Are you ready for war? |
06 Jan 2008 02:20:44 PM |
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The Bibles a nothing more than myths, fables and pure nonsense!
"guardian Snow" <snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote in message
news:b95ea95b-04f1-4125-a154-9dceb1a3013c@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 7, 6:47 am, Nicodemus <publicem...@goodnews.net> wrote:
Do you have a vision?
Mat 26:41 "Watch and pray, lest you enter into trial. The spirit
indeed is eager, but the flesh is weak."
Here we see that the body and the soul do not agree on things. This
example is from the betrayal of none other then the very Rock of the
Christian church, Peter. What he wanted to do and what he did were two
different things and this is spiritual warfare at the core.
Luk 24:39 "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me
and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I
have."
We can easily make clear distinctions between the desires of the body
and the will of the spirit and it's this very thing that needs to be
addressed.
Job 4:15 Then a spirit passed before my face, the hair on my body
stood up. 16 It stood still, but I could not discern its appearance.
A form was before my eyes - silence, then a voice I heard,
We've all had those moments when the hairs on our body stood up and we
felt spiritual movement but possibly a majority of us didn't recognize
this as such. It's not necessarily our spirit that is moving but in
those moments we can learn to recognize the voice.
Eze 3:12 And the Spirit lifted me up, and behind me I heard the sound
of a great rumbling voice, "Blessed be the esteem of ???? from His
place,"
Now not all voices are those we should listen too and in fact we need
to discern the messages being given to us. We must use our own
judgment because just as the Elohim speaks many times to his people,
so do those of evil spirits that would lead us away from the truth.
There is such an example in scripture:
Eph 6:12 Because we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but
against principalities, against authorities, against the world-rulers
of the darkness of this age, against spiritual matters of wickedness
in the heavenlies.
This is absolutely not the truth! We do wrestle with flesh and blood
and everyday, it's usually our own. You don't believe me, ask any
pack a day cigarette smoker if he wrestles with his own flesh. The
spirit is telling him to quick and he'll say, "I wish I could, or I
want to quit but I can't.." The spirit is willing but the flesh is
weak. Everyday we wrestle against flesh and blood and it's for this
very reason that the Messiah on many occasions spoke about fasting.
Mat 17:20 And ????? said to them, "Because of your unbelief, for
truly, I say to you, if you have belief as a mustard seed, you shall
say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it shall move.
And no matter shall be impossible for you. 21 "But this kind does not
go out except through prayer and fasting."
The practice of fasting, is the practice of denial of the flesh and we
strengthen the spirit by this very action. In the realm of spiritual
warfare there is no greater weapon then giving up our fleshly desires
and seeking the desire of our Father by prayer.
Rev 9:21 And they did not repent of their murders, nor of their drug
sorceries, nor of their whoring, nor of their thefts.
The issue of drug sorceries enters into the realm of spiritual warfare
and cigarettes, marijuana, alcohol and prescription drugs can all fit
into this category. When we consider these elements of body verses
the spirit we see all to clearly the aspects of spiritual warfare
wrestling against the desires of the body. Nobody wants to be a crack
addict or an alcoholic yet the modern world is filled with people who
suffer from these demons. Maybe you've heard the term, "a monkey on
my back" and it's spiritual warfare at the primal level. So the war
we have is between flesh and blood, the body and spirit.
To be continued,
Snow
http://www.isr-messianic.org/
A Christian is nothing but a sinful man who has put himself to school
for Christ for the honest purpose of becoming better. If a man cannot
be a Christian in the place where he is, he cannot be a Christian
anywhere.
Henry Ward Beecher
.
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: War of the flesh. |
06 Jan 2008 07:24:05 PM |
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Drugs, alcohol and cigarettes wouldn=E2=80=99t be considered as part of the
topic of spiritual warfare normally but I believe they have a high
priority.
Mar 14:38 =E2=80=9CWatch and pray, lest you enter into trial. The spirit
indeed is eager, but the flesh is weak.=E2=80=9D
I=E2=80=99ll start with cigarettes because we all know this is the most
controversial idea that I=E2=80=99ve put forward as being part of spiritual
warfare.
Cigarettes are legal even if they are considered a filthy habit and
those who suffer from addiction are sent outside like lepers into a
colony. We congregate outside your office doors in the freezing cold,
suffering to have another drag. We can=E2=80=99t run up the stairs without
running out of breath and yet we continue to smoke, it=E2=80=99s our right t=
o
do with our body as we please=E2=80=A6.
1Co 7:23 You were bought with a price, do not become slaves of men.
You are a slave to the cigarette and are paying tithes to the
multinational corporations that sell them to you. Life is for living
to the fullest and we sell ourselves short if we smoke.
Psa 23:1 =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is my shepherd; I do not lack.
Can we say this with all honesty if we crave another cigarette in an
hour? We know that cigarettes are one of the strongest demons in the
Christian world. If we truly subscribe to the idea that the body is
the temple, what are we doing polluting it with garbage? As children
of our Father, we are to set ourselves apart from the practices that
destroy and we all know cigarettes to be one of the worst. Now does
that mean that if Joe Camel is attending the church, we cast him out?
Hardly but we should do everything in our power to help him, encourage
him, pray for him and be his quit partner.
Mat 4:23 And =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=A9=D7=A2 went about all Galil, teaching i=
n their
congregations, and proclaiming the Good News of the reign, and healing
every disease and every bodily weakness among the people.
Every bodily weakness must be dealt with in the congregation and
twelve step support programs are a good start and even if it=E2=80=99s not
politically acceptable, we must work together and be at peace with
each other.
Mat 5:9 =E2=80=9CBlessed are the peacemakers, because they shall be called
sons of Elohim.
We can=E2=80=99t force people to quit smoking cigarettes and it wouldn=E2=80=
=99t be
right to do so, period. What I am saying is that we need to encourage
each other by prayers and by spoken word.
What are the net results of smoking? Less money for more enjoyable
things in life. Less money for even charitable things. No energy to
do everyday activities. Even climbing stairs becomes a labor of sweat
and panting because your unable to draw enough air.
Dependancy. I=E2=80=99ve personally was in a situation where I chose to buy=
a
pack of cigarettes over food and that speaks to just how strong those
bodily cravings are. So when the first thing you do is wake up to have
a cigarette, ask yourself, who is the master?
Mat 6:24 =E2=80=9CNo one is able to serve two masters, for either he shall
hate the one and love the other, or else he shall cleave to the one
and despise the other. You are not able to serve Elohim and mammon.
Filth, dirty ashtrays, constant smelling.. If you=E2=80=99re a smoker, you
don=E2=80=99t smell it anymore but the moment anybody else does come around
you or your home, it=E2=80=99s like a giant catbox.
Listen to the spirit in your soul=E2=80=A6 it=E2=80=99s telling us all to qu=
it! It=E2=80=99s
telling us to prepare for war and your not going to be in it reaching
for souls if your more concerned with getting your next pack.
Luk 16:11 =E2=80=9CIf, therefore, you have not been trustworthy in the
unrighteous mammon, who shall entrust to you the true?
One of the first tactics of the unbelievers is to find fault in you.
Luk 16:14 And the Pharisees, who loved silver, also heard all this,
and were sneering at Him,
Luk 16:15 so He said to them, =E2=80=9CYou are those who declare yourselves
righteous before men, but Elohim knows your hearts, because what is
highly thought of among men is an abomination in the sight of Elohim.
Our Father knows are hearts and he wants us to purify ourselves from
the things of this world, he=E2=80=99s calling you personally.
Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from the heaven saying, =E2=80=9CCome out=
of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of
her plagues.1 Footnote: 1Jer. 51:6 & 45.
To be continued,
Shalom,
Snow
http://www.isr-messianic.org/
He is rich or poor according to what he is, not according to what he
has. Hold yourself responsible for a higher standard than anyone else
expects of you. Never excuse yourself.
Henry Ward Beecher
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: Re: Are you ready for war? |
07 Jan 2008 12:03:01 AM |
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On Jan 7, 7:20=A0am, "Bill M" <wm...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
The Bibles a nothing more than myths, fables and pure nonsense!
I must disagree with you and humbly testify that the scriptures are
truthful and alive. I hope that you can find healing in the words
someday.
Mat 8:16 When the even was come, they brought unto him many that were
possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and
healed all that were sick:
We are healed by the "spirit of his word".
Shalom,
Snow
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate
cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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