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Baptist Campus Paper Backs Same-Sex 'Marriages' |
Baptist Campus Paper Backs Same-Sex 'Marriages'
Editorial Staff May Face Disciplinary Action
By Jim Brown and Jody Brown
March 1, 2004
(AgapePress) - The student newspaper at the largest Baptist university
in the world has endorsed homosexual "marriage."
Back in November, Christian pollster George Barna reported that
approximately 40 percent of young adults (between the ages of 18 and
38) believe it is "morally acceptable" to have a sexual relationship
with someone of the same gender. If one believes those findings, it
should come as no surprise that on Friday, the editorial board of the
Baylor University Lariat compared opposition to same-sex marriage to
discrimination based on skin color or religious beliefs.
After summarizing recent events in San Francisco, where more than
3,500 "marriage" licenses have been issued to homosexual couples in a
little more than two weeks, the editorial states:
"Like many heterosexual couples, many gay couples share deep bonds of
love, some so strong they've persevered years of discrimination for
their choice to co-habitate with and date one another. Just as it
isn't fair to discriminate against someone for their skin color,
heritage or religious beliefs, it isn't fair to discriminate against
someone for their sexual orientation. Shouldn't gay couples be allowed
to enjoy the benefits and happiness of marriage, too?"
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem with sin (sexual in this case)is that after a while it no
longer becomes a sin but some right that has to be upheld.
Romans 1:18-32 (NRSV)
The Guilt of Humankind
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and wickedness of those who by their wickedness suppress
the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them,
because God has shown it to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the
world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are,
have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they
are without excuse; 21 for though they knew God, they did not honor
him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their
thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 Claiming to be
wise, they became fools; 23 and they exchanged the glory of the
immortal God for images resembling a mortal human being or birds or
four-footed animals or reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to
impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, 25
because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and
served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever!
Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women
exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way
also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed
with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men
and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up
to a debased mind and to things that should not be done. 29 They were
filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full
of envy, murder, strife, deceit, craftiness, they are gossips, 30
slanderers, God-haters,f insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of
evil, rebellious toward parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless,
ruthless. 32 They know God's decree, that those who practice such
things deserve to die—yet they not only do them but even applaud
others who practice them.
=========================== S E X
=====================================
The sole purpose of sex is to produce children and any other purpose
deviates from what God has intended it for. I do not believe I am
distorting scripture, and I do believe for all mankind it is a
unattainable goal but the scripture point to the fact that it is due
to our weakness and lack of self control that non reproductive sex is
used at the best in a useless manner, at the worst in a truly
abominable manner.
Consider these points if you thing I am wrong:
1) If the only time people could have sexual intercourse was in
marriage to produce children then would there be any abortions
including this pill popping to kill fertilized eggs- the very
beginning of human life?
2) Would there be any sexually transmitted diseases?
3) Would male and female couples practice homosexual sex with each
other and other deviant sexual practices?
Better to practise self control even if you are married then no
control.
Colossians 3:5-6 (NRSV)
5 Put to death, therefore, whatever in you is earthly: fornication,
impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed (which is idolatry). 6 On
account of these the wrath of God is coming on those who are
disobedient.
Matthew 22:29-30 (NRSV)
29 Jesus answered them, "You are wrong, because you know neither the
scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they
neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in
heaven.
Humm!!
In the resurrection their will be no sex. The purpose of sex is solely
for the intent of producing children in the here and now. Sex will be
past history in God's eternal kingdom because we will have something
far more superior and emotionally fulfilling- God.
Is sex an earthly thing-yes, will there be sex in heaven-no because we
will be like the angels.
Leviticus 15:16-18 (NRSV)
16 If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in
water, and be unclean until the evening. 17 Everything made of cloth
or of skin on which the semen falls shall be washed with water, and be
unclean until the evening. 18 If a man lies with a woman and has an
emission of semen, both of them shall bathe in water, and be unclean
until the evening.
Leviticus 15:31-33 (NRSV)
31 Thus you shall keep the people of Israel separate from their
uncleanness, so that they do not die in their uncleanness by defiling
my tabernacle that is in their midst.32 This is the ritual for those
who
have a discharge: for him who has an emission of semen, becoming
unclean
thereby, 33 for her who is in the infirmity of her period, for
anyone,
male or female, who has a discharge, and for the man who lies with a
woman
who is unclean.
Humm!!
Sex is considered an unclean act in itself according to the bible and
those that enter God's holy presence would die if they didn't wait
till they became clean .
1 Timothy 2:13-15 (NRSV)
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve; 14 and Adam was not deceived,
but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. 15 Yet she will
be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and
love and holiness, with modesty.
Humm!!
Before mankind was corrupted in the garden of Eden they were created
by God afterwards humans were created by sex . Through childbearing,
womankind brought about our Saviour.
1 Timothy 5:11-15 (NRSV)
11 But refuse to put younger widows on the list; for when their
sensual desires alienate them from Christ, they want to marry, 12 and
so they incur condemnation for having violated their first pledge. 13
Besides that, they learn to be idle, gadding about from house to
house; and they are not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies,
saying what they should not say. 14 So I would have younger widows
marry, bear children, and manage their households, so as to give the
adversary no occasion to revile us. 15 For some have already turned
away to follow Satan.
Humm!!
Sensual desires alienates people from Christ.
1 Corinthians 7:39-40 (NRSV)
39 A wife is bound as long as her husband lives. But if the husband
dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, only in the Lord. 40 But
in my judgment she is more blessed if she remains as she is. And I
think that I too have the Spirit of God.
1 Corinthians 7:1-4 (NRSV)
Directions concerning Marriage
7 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: "It is well for a
man not to touch a woman." 2 But because of cases of sexual
immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own
husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights,
and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have
authority over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the
husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
Humm!!
If at all possible it is better to remain celibate and dedicated to
God but because of cases of sexual immorality it is better to be
married.
1 Corinthians 7:29-30 (NRSV)
I mean, brothers and sisters, the appointed time has grown short;
from now on, let even those who have wives be as though they had none,
30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who
rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though
they had no possessions,
Humm!!
And even if you are married you should try practising celibacy if your
partner agrees.
Genesis 5:32 (NRSV)
32 After Noah was five hundred years old, Noah became the father of
Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 7:13-14 (NRSV)
13 On the very same day Noah with his sons, Shem and Ham and Japheth,
and Noah's wife and the three wives of his sons entered the ark,
Humm!!
A good example of celibacy is that of Noah, 500yrs and only 3 sons.
His
wife wouldn't of being using the pill that actually stops a fertile
egg (human life) from attaching itself in the womb because it would of
been murder.
Matthew 5:27-30 (NRSV)
Concerning Adultery
27 "You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.'
28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has
already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye
causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away; it is better for you
to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be thrown into
hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and
throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than
for your whole body to go into hell.
Humm!!
Says a lot about our so called modern world which pollutes us
constantly with sexual images and thoughts. As far as God is concerned
the more sex we indulge in, the more unclean we become which is the
opposite view to what the world teaches.
Revelation 14:4-5 (NRSV)
4 It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are
virgins; these follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They have been
redeemed from humankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb, 5 and in
their mouth no lie was found; they are blameless.
Humm!!
From the above verse it can be determine who are the closest to the
Lamb.
Concluding remarks:
Man is a sinful creature and needs the forgiveness of God in Jesus,
who died on the cross for our sins, and even though sinful man can
never reach perfection through his own efforts he can try his best
because God loves all those that try to please Him.
Think of a child and that child's parents, even though what that child
has made or tried to do for his parents is very simple, the parents
are proud and happy that that child showed their love for them in what
that child has tried to do for them even though it is far from
perfect.
Sex is specifically for the creation of children, not this if it feels
good do it attitude that the world teaches: hands were not created to
kill yet they can be used in an evil manner and the same goes for sex.
End times:
http://www.geocities.com/mart1963/
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| Title: Re: Baptist Campus Paper Backs Same-Sex 'Marriages' |
04 Mar 2004 10:47:23 AM |
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You're wrong martus and so are the femiabtist baptists. God sanctified
marital union is far more than just to reproduce. The Matriarchs had trouble
conceiving if you recall from scripture, yet they were loved all the more by
their man. Further, oral sex is not sin and is even commanded in Proverbs
5:15.
Just a few scriptures to the contrary of your stand by command:
Pro 5:15 Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of
thine own well.
Pro 5:16 Let thy fountains be dispersed abroad, and rivers of waters in the
streets.
Pro 5:17 Let them be only thine own, and not strangers' with thee.
Pro 5:18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy
youth.
Pro 5:19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts
satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.
Pro 18:22 Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favor of
the LORD.
Ecc 9:9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the
life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of
thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labor which
thou takest under the sun.
So-called christians off track do more harm than any ignorant sinner. God is
never rescinded.
Some scripture rules about getting nekky etc.:
Lev 18:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 18:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, I am the
LORD your God.
Lev 18:3 After the doings of the land of Egypt, wherein ye dwelt, shall ye
not do: and after the doings of the land of Canaan, whither I bring you,
shall ye not do: neither shall ye walk in their ordinances.
Lev 18:4 Ye shall do my judgments, and keep mine ordinances, to walk
therein: I am the LORD your God.
Lev 18:5 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a
man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.
Lev 18:6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to
uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.
Lev 18:7 The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt
thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
Lev 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is
thy father's nakedness.
Lev 18:9 The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or
daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even
their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
Lev 18:10 The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's
daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine
own nakedness.
Lev 18:11 The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy
father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
Lev 18:12 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she
is thy father's near kinswoman.
Lev 18:13 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister: for
she is thy mother's near kinswoman.
Lev 18:14 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother,
thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt.
Lev 18:15 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she
is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.
Lev 18:16 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is
thy brother's nakedness.
Lev 18:17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter,
neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to
uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.
Lev 18:18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to
uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
Lev 18:19 Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her
nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness.
Lev 18:20 Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife,
to defile thyself with her.
Lev 18:21 And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to
Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD.
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is
abomination.
Lev 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself
therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto:
it is confusion.
Lev 18:24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these
the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
Lev 18:25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity
thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
Lev 18:26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall
not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor
any stranger that sojourneth among you:
Lev 18:27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which
were before you, and the land is defiled;)
Lev 18:28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it
spued out the nations that were before you.
Lev 18:29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the
souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
Lev 18:30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any
one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that
ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.
God Bless You Martus,
jacinthfish
"martus" <marttila69@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:511a49a.0403030053.2002a0fa@posting.google.com...
Baptist Campus Paper Backs Same-Sex 'Marriages'
Editorial Staff May Face Disciplinary Action
By Jim Brown and Jody Brown
March 1, 2004
(AgapePress) - The student newspaper at the largest Baptist university
in the world has endorsed homosexual "marriage."
Back in November, Christian pollster George Barna reported that
approximately 40 percent of young adults (between the ages of 18 and
38) believe it is "morally acceptable" to have a sexual relationship
with someone of the same gender. If one believes those findings, it
should come as no surprise that on Friday, the editorial board of the
Baylor University Lariat compared opposition to same-sex marriage to
discrimination based on skin color or religious beliefs.
After summarizing recent events in San Francisco, where more than
3,500 "marriage" licenses have been issued to homosexual couples in a
little more than two weeks, the editorial states:
"Like many heterosexual couples, many gay couples share deep bonds of
love, some so strong they've persevered years of discrimination for
their choice to co-habitate with and date one another. Just as it
isn't fair to discriminate against someone for their skin color,
heritage or religious beliefs, it isn't fair to discriminate against
someone for their sexual orientation. Shouldn't gay couples be allowed
to enjoy the benefits and happiness of marriage, too?"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
The problem with sin (sexual in this case)is that after a while it no
longer becomes a sin but some right that has to be upheld.
Romans 1:18-32 (NRSV)
The Guilt of Humankind
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
ungodliness and wickedness of those who by their wickedness suppress
the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them,
because God has shown it to them. 20 Ever since the creation of the
world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are,
have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they
are without excuse; 21 for though they knew God, they did not honor
him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their
thinking, and their senseless minds were darkened. 22 Claiming to be
wise, they became fools; 23 and they exchanged the glory of the
immortal God for images resembling a mortal human being or birds or
four-footed animals or reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to
impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, 25
because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and
served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever!
Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women
exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27 and in the same way
also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed
with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men
and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up
to a debased mind and to things that should not be done. 29 They were
filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, covetousness, malice. Full
of envy, murder, strife, deceit, craftiness, they are gossips, 30
slanderers, God-haters,f insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of
evil, rebellious toward parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless,
ruthless. 32 They know God's decree, that those who practice such
things deserve to die-yet they not only do them but even applaud
others who practice them.
=========================== S E X
=====================================
The sole purpose of sex is to produce children and any other purpose
deviates from what God has intended it for. I do not believe I am
distorting scripture, and I do believe for all mankind it is a
unattainable goal but the scripture point to the fact that it is due
to our weakness and lack of self control that non reproductive sex is
used at the best in a useless manner, at the worst in a truly
abominable manner.
Consider these points if you thing I am wrong:
1) If the only time people could have sexual intercourse was in
marriage to produce children then would there be any abortions
including this pill popping to kill fertilized eggs- the very
beginning of human life?
2) Would there be any sexually transmitted diseases?
3) Would male and female couples practice homosexual sex with each
other and other deviant sexual practices?
Better to practise self control even if you are married then no
control.
Colossians 3:5-6 (NRSV)
5 Put to death, therefore, whatever in you is earthly: fornication,
impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed (which is idolatry). 6 On
account of these the wrath of God is coming on those who are
disobedient.
Matthew 22:29-30 (NRSV)
29 Jesus answered them, "You are wrong, because you know neither the
scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they
neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in
heaven.
Humm!!
In the resurrection their will be no sex. The purpose of sex is solely
for the intent of producing children in the here and now. Sex will be
past history in God's eternal kingdom because we will have something
far more superior and emotionally fulfilling- God.
Is sex an earthly thing-yes, will there be sex in heaven-no because we
will be like the angels.
Leviticus 15:16-18 (NRSV)
16 If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in
water, and be unclean until the evening. 17 Everything made of cloth
or of skin on which the semen falls shall be washed with water, and be
unclean until the evening. 18 If a man lies with a woman and has an
emission of semen, both of them shall bathe in water, and be unclean
until the evening.
Leviticus 15:31-33 (NRSV)
31 Thus you shall keep the people of Israel separate from their
uncleanness, so that they do not die in their uncleanness by defiling
my tabernacle that is in their midst.32 This is the ritual for those
who
have a discharge: for him who has an emission of semen, becoming
unclean
thereby, 33 for her who is in the infirmity of her period, for
anyone,
male or female, who has a discharge, and for the man who lies with a
woman
who is unclean.
Humm!!
Sex is considered an unclean act in itself according to the bible and
those that enter God's holy presence would die if they didn't wait
till they became clean .
1 Timothy 2:13-15 (NRSV)
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve; 14 and Adam was not deceived,
but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. 15 Yet she will
be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and
love and holiness, with modesty.
Humm!!
Before mankind was corrupted in the garden of Eden they were created
by God afterwards humans were created by sex . Through childbearing,
womankind brought about our Saviour.
1 Timothy 5:11-15 (NRSV)
11 But refuse to put younger widows on the list; for when their
sensual desires alienate them from Christ, they want to marry, 12 and
so they incur condemnation for having violated their first pledge. 13
Besides that, they learn to be idle, gadding about from house to
house; and they are not merely idle, but also gossips and busybodies,
saying what they should not say. 14 So I would have younger widows
marry, bear children, and manage their households, so as to give the
adversary no occasion to revile us. 15 For some have already turned
away to follow Satan.
Humm!!
Sensual desires alienates people from Christ.
1 Corinthians 7:39-40 (NRSV)
39 A wife is bound as long as her husband lives. But if the husband
dies, she is free to marry anyone she wishes, only in the Lord. 40 But
in my judgment she is more blessed if she remains as she is. And I
think that I too have the Spirit of God.
1 Corinthians 7:1-4 (NRSV)
Directions concerning Marriage
7 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: "It is well for a
man not to touch a woman." 2 But because of cases of sexual
immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own
husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights,
and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have
authority over her own body, but the husband does; likewise the
husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
Humm!!
If at all possible it is better to remain celibate and dedicated to
God but because of cases of sexual immorality it is better to be
married.
1 Corinthians 7:29-30 (NRSV)
I mean, brothers and sisters, the appointed time has grown short;
from now on, let even those who have wives be as though they had none,
30 and those who mourn as though they were not mourning, and those who
rejoice as though they were not rejoicing, and those who buy as though
they had no possessions,
Humm!!
And even if you are married you should try practising celibacy if your
partner agrees.
Genesis 5:32 (NRSV)
32 After Noah was five hundred years old, Noah became the father of
Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 7:13-14 (NRSV)
13 On the very same day Noah with his sons, Shem and Ham and Japheth,
and Noah's wife and the three wives of his sons entered the ark,
Humm!!
A good example of celibacy is that of Noah, 500yrs and only 3 sons.
His
wife wouldn't of being using the pill that actually stops a fertile
egg (human life) from attaching itself in the womb because it would of
been murder.
Matthew 5:27-30 (NRSV)
Concerning Adultery
27 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery.'
28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust has
already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye
causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away; it is better for you
to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be thrown into
hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and
throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than
for your whole body to go into hell.
Humm!!
Says a lot about our so called modern world which pollutes us
constantly with sexual images and thoughts. As far as God is concerned
the more sex we indulge in, the more unclean we become which is the
opposite view to what the world teaches.
Revelation 14:4-5 (NRSV)
4 It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are
virgins; these follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They have been
redeemed from humankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb, 5 and in
their mouth no lie was found; they are blameless.
Humm!!
From the above verse it can be determine who are the closest to the
Lamb.
Concluding remarks:
Man is a sinful creature and needs the forgiveness of God in Jesus,
who died on the cross for our sins, and even though sinful man can
never reach perfection through his own efforts he can try his best
because God loves all those that try to please Him.
Think of a child and that child's parents, even though what that child
has made or tried to do for his parents is very simple, the parents
are proud and happy that that child showed their love for them in what
that child has tried to do for them even though it is far from
perfect.
Sex is specifically for the creation of children, not this if it feels
good do it attitude that the world teaches: hands were not created to
kill yet they can be used in an evil manner and the same goes for sex.
End times:
http://www.geocities.com/mart1963/
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