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14 Jan 2005 03:09:26 PM |
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Believe In Jesus |
"...God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life."
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-- John 3:16
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| User: "sensi" |
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| Title: Re: Believe In Jesus |
14 Jan 2005 04:42:36 PM |
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<bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"...God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life."
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-- John 3:16
sensi:
Most people believe a story rendition of the life and death of Jesus. Not
many believe in the honest attempt to teach people to live,love and forgive.
The word perish speaks of a spiritual dying.
Attempts to discredit the beauty of forgiveness stops a person *dead* in
their tracks.That kind of death is what the bible teaches. Die a little each
day is a dawning of realization that you cannot have it both ways.
Love,
sensi
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| User: "j w" |
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15 Jan 2005 05:51:06 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:42:36 -0600, "sensi" <sensi4sight@yahoo.com>
wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
<bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"...God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life."
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-- John 3:16
sensi:
Most people believe a story rendition of the life and death of Jesus. Not
many believe in the honest attempt to teach people to live,love and forgive.
The word perish speaks of a spiritual dying.
Attempts to discredit the beauty of forgiveness stops a person *dead* in
their tracks.That kind of death is what the bible teaches. Die a little each
day is a dawning of realization that you cannot have it both ways.
Love,
sensi
Well said! Mind if I quote you?
jw
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| User: "sensi" |
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17 Jan 2005 08:03:49 AM |
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:42:36 -0600, "sensi" <sensi4sight@yahoo.com>
wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)
<bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1105736966.157455.160340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
"...God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life."
.
-- John 3:16
sensi:
Most people believe a story rendition of the life and death of Jesus. Not
many believe in the honest attempt to teach people to live,love and
forgive.
The word perish speaks of a spiritual dying.
Attempts to discredit the beauty of forgiveness stops a person *dead* in
their tracks.That kind of death is what the bible teaches. Die a little
each
day is a dawning of realization that you cannot have it both ways.
Love,
sensi
Well said! Mind if I quote you?
jw
sensi:
Sure
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| Title: Re: Believe In Jesus by sensei, edited for publishing by jw |
17 Jan 2005 08:43:44 PM |
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sensi,
this is my LIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY edited version of your remarks. If you
sign off, I will publish it.
Sign off on the below, sensei, and I'll put it on my site.
just put yer initial(s) (s) below my jw
sensei sez:
In My Humble Opinion
Many people believe a story rendition of the life and death of Jesus.
Not many believe in the honest attempt to teach people to live, love,
and forgive.
The word "perish" speaks of a spiritual dying. Attempts to discredit
the beauty of forgiveness stops a person *dead* in their tracks.That
kind of death is what the Bible teaches.
"Die a little each day" is a dawning of realization that you cannot
have it both ways.
Love,
sensi
jw
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| User: "sensi" |
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| Title: Re: Believe In Jesus by sensei, edited for publishing by jw |
18 Jan 2005 06:48:16 AM |
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"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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sensi,
this is my LIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY edited version of your remarks. If you
sign off, I will publish it.
Sign off on the below, sensei, and I'll put it on my site.
just put yer initial(s) (s) below my jw
sensei sez:
In My Humble Opinion
Many people believe a story rendition of the life and death of Jesus.
Not many believe in the honest attempt to teach people to live, love,
and forgive.
The word "perish" speaks of a spiritual dying. Attempts to discredit
the beauty of forgiveness stops a person *dead* in their tracks.That
kind of death is what the Bible teaches.
"Die a little each day" is a dawning of realization that you cannot
have it both ways.
Love,
sensi
jw
s
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| User: "" |
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17 Jan 2005 10:27:52 PM |
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"...God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life."
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-- John 3:16
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I don't believe a word of it any longer. Not from what I have witnessed
in my own life or in the lives of other Christians.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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19 Jan 2005 12:56:07 AM |
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On 17 Jan 2005 20:27:52 -0800, while scaling the Mt.
Everest, pontificated:
"...God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life."
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-- John 3:16
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I don't believe a word of it any longer. Not from what I have witnessed
in my own life or in the lives of other Christians.
One should never measure God by the actions of men.
Isn't that a little backwards? Shouldn't you be
measuring the actions of men by the word of God?
Why did you expect men to be perfect?
And don't you know that many will claim to be
Christians and are not?
Haven't you read in the NT, where many false teachers
were in the church and would be in the church?
What types of actions in their lives are you talking
about?
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Pastor Dave Raymond
"I have more understanding than all my teachers:
for thy testimonies are my meditations." - Psalm 119:99
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"And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of
the Spirit, which is the word of God:" - Ephesians 6:17
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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22 Jan 2005 01:57:30 PM |
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"...Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and
wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. And every
creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and
such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying,
Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth
upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever."
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-- Revelation 5:12-13
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| User: "" |
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21 Jan 2005 03:18:32 PM |
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"...other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus
Christ."
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-- 1 Corinthians 3:11
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23 Jan 2005 04:21:13 PM |
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"...washed us from our sins in his own blood"
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-- Revelation 1:5
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| User: "Bible Studies with Satan" |
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23 Jan 2005 04:47:35 PM |
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wrote:
"...washed us from our sins in his own blood"
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-- Revelation 1:5
And no static cling!
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| User: "Mark T marksgospel@chapter17" |
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23 Jan 2005 05:04:30 PM |
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"Bible Studies with Satan" <church@state.org> wrote:
bibleverse2@yahoo.com wrote:
"...washed us from our sins in his own blood"
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-- Revelation 1:5
And no static cling!
bibleverse2@yahoo.com is already giving bible studies from Satan. It is
good to see both of you united in the one ministry. Obviously, you are the
wiser one helping out the fledgling new recruit.
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18 Jan 2005 03:04:37 PM |
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"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God,
and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
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-- John 17:3
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17 Jan 2005 03:18:34 PM |
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"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
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-- Romans 10:13
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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17 Jan 2005 06:49:02 PM |
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On 17 Jan 2005 13:18:34 -0800, wrote:
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Saved from what? Saved from God?
-- Romans 10:13
-Barry
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"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for
their numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible;
in my opinion, only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
[A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)]
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "R Steenerson" |
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22 Jan 2005 08:49:27 PM |
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Saved from sin.
"Barry OGrady" <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:97nou0dta7easkgtil0d9n3gou621t8thb@4ax.com...
On 17 Jan 2005 13:18:34 -0800, wrote:
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
Saved from what? Saved from God?
-- Romans 10:13
-Barry
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"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for
their numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held
responsible;
in my opinion, only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
[A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)]
Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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16 Jan 2005 02:41:12 PM |
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"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that
believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth
on him."
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-- John 3:36
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15 Jan 2005 02:28:08 PM |
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"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved."
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-- Romans 10:9
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| User: "Mark T" |
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15 Jan 2005 04:44:25 PM |
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<bibleverse2@yahoo.com> wrote:
"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved." -- Romans 10:9
That's what PAUL said....
BUT JESUS SAID .................
Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God (GOD NOT THE MESSIAH) with all your
heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the FIRST and
GREATEST COMMANDMENT. And the SECOND is like it: 'Love your neighbor as
yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these TWO COMMANDMENTS."
Matthew 22:37-40
One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing
that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the
COMMANDMENTS, which is the MOST IMPORTANT?" "The MOST IMPORTANT ONE,"
answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God (GOD NOT THE
MESSIAH) the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God (GOD NOT THE MESSIAH) with
all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all
your strength.' (Mark12:28-30)
And behold, a lawyer stood up to put him to the test, saying,
"Teacher, WHAT SHALL I DO TO INHERIT ETERNAL LIFE?"
He said to him, "What is written in the law? How do you read?" And he
answered, "You shall love the Lord your God (GOD NOT THE MESSIAH) with all
your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and with all
your mind; and your neighbor as yourself." And he said to him, "You have
answered right; DO THIS AND YOU WILL LIVE." (Luke 10:25-28)
These are repeated THREE TIMES. They are in each of the synoptic
gospels. The commandments do not mention anything about the finite
human Jesus of Nazareth, The Messiah ...or about being born again.
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| User: "Shaqad" |
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15 Jan 2005 06:29:16 PM |
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Rom 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee
shall bow to
me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Phi 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in
heaven,
and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Phi 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is
Lord, to the
glory of God the Father.
Bow now, or bow later.
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| User: "jw" |
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20 Jan 2005 07:32:26 AM |
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On 15 Jan 2005 12:28:08 -0800, wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved / keep it in the
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"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved."
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-- Romans 10:9
Would you mind terribly:
1. posting in a modern translation
2. at LEAST marking at the TOP of your post that it's King James?
I'd appreciate it, and since you so love to quote the Bible, try
applying 1 Cor 13, and helping a "weaker brother."
jw
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| User: "walksalone" |
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20 Jan 2005 09:59:42 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 05:32:26 -0800, jw tried his old not the KJV again
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On 15 Jan 2005 12:28:08 -0800, wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved / keep it in the
group
"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved."
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-- Romans 10:9
Would you mind terribly:
No, Would you mind quit trying to get your way?
1. posting in a modern translation
Why, I prefer the JPS & KJV. But feel free to use one of the 110+ versions
if your reading skills are not up to the task.
2. at LEAST marking at the TOP of your post that it's King James?
Why should anyone bow to your whims?
I'd appreciate it, and since you so love to quote the Bible, try
applying 1 Cor 13, and helping a "weaker brother."
Proverbs 13:5 - "a righteous man hateth lying."
Proverbs 12:22 - "Lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord."
1 Thessalonians 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of
God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
So, you think your gods don't want you to read their word then? Or is it
demons that can't deal with the KJV? In your case, no bets either way.
jw
Which jw, the whiner of the usenet?
walksalone who has no problem reading the KJV, nor do those that can read
at the collage level.
--
The Hadith Qudsi 6
The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of
Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah
will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them.
The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I
fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did
but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was
said.
Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast
into Hell-fire.
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21 Jan 2005 12:26:02 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 03:59:42 GMT, walksalone <spam@fcc.gov> wrote:
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On 15 Jan 2005 12:28:08 -0800, wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved / keep it in the
group
"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved."
.
-- Romans 10:9
Would you mind terribly:
No, Would you mind quit trying to get your way?
1. posting in a modern translation
Why, I prefer the JPS & KJV. But feel free to use one of the 110+ versions
if your reading skills are not up to the task.
2. at LEAST marking at the TOP of your post that it's King James?
Why should anyone bow to your whims?
#1 It's not a "whim."
#2 Have you ever heard "do unto others?"
apparently not.
no surprise.
jw
I'd appreciate it, and since you so love to quote the Bible, try
applying 1 Cor 13, and helping a "weaker brother."
Proverbs 13:5 - "a righteous man hateth lying."
Proverbs 12:22 - "Lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord."
The post also wasn't aimed at you.
jw
snipped hate
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On 15 Jan 2005 12:28:08 -0800, wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved / keep it in the
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"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved."
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-- Romans 10:9
Would you mind terribly:
No, Would you mind quit trying to get your way?
1. posting in a modern translation
Why, I prefer the JPS & KJV. But feel free to use one of the 110+ versions
if your reading skills are not up to the task.
2. at LEAST marking at the TOP of your post that it's King James?
Why should anyone bow to your whims?
#1 It's not a "whim."
But it is, if you want to ***** at or about someone, KJV text will not stop
you.
Not to mention that you are no more worthy of consideration than anyone
else. & yes jw, that includes me. Just thought I would save you the time &
effort of pretending I think otherwise.
#2 Have you ever heard "do unto others?"
Matter of fact I have, & as rules of thumbs go, its not bad. The problem
with it is those that use it to try & get their way.
Say, people like you?
apparently not.
Just another error on your part.
no surprise.
Indeed, no one expects more from you.
jw
I'd appreciate it, and since you so love to quote the Bible, try
applying 1 Cor 13, and helping a "weaker brother."
Proverbs 13:5 - "a righteous man hateth lying."
Proverbs 12:22 - "Lying lips are an abomination unto the Lord."
The post also wasn't aimed at you.
I do not concern me with here your lies & whining is aimed at, just as you
don't.
Nor do i consider you in any position to even attempt to tell me what to
read or respond to.
After all, you made the demand I pay attention to you, & now, as to be
expected, you don't like it.
jw
snipped hate
Apparently not, you still posted.
walksalone who wonders does jw really think[?] that he is fooling anyone
with his *new* woe is me phrase?
--
The Hadith Qudsi 6
The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of
Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah
will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them.
The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I
fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did
but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was
said.
Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast
into Hell-fire.
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On 15 Jan 2005 12:28:08 -0800, wrote:
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"If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe
in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
saved."
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-- Romans 10:9
Would you mind terribly:
No, Would you mind quit trying to get your way?
1. posting in a modern translation
Why, I prefer the JPS & KJV. But feel free to use one of the 110+ versions
if your reading skills are not up to the task.
2. at LEAST marking at the TOP of your post that it's King James?
Why should anyone bow to your whims?
#1 It's not a "whim."
But it is, if you want to ***** at or about someone, KJV text will not stop
you.
Since you do not even CLAIM to be Christian, demoniac, what do you
care?
And if you detest my posts so much, you must be the world's biggest
mashochist, besides your boyfriend Phar, to continue to read the
"rants" of a Christian.
Not to mention that you are no more worthy of consideration than anyone
else.
I think Jesus would disagree. In fact, I know He would. His opinion
matters; yours does not.
& yes jw, that includes me. Just thought I would save you the time &
effort of pretending I think otherwise.
You pretend
#1 that you think
#2 that I might care what you think.
#2 Have you ever heard "do unto others?"
Matter of fact I have, & as rules of thumbs go, its not bad. The problem
with it is those that use it to try & get their way.
I don't see any escape clause in the words, "Do unto others as you
would have them do unto you (if they're nice to you; if the're not,
screw 'em!)
jw
snipped the demonic chatter and hate.
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24 Jan 2005 04:53:11 PM |
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In article <70e2v050voede45uufg564cu3h35i8eoa9@4ax.com>, jw
<jw<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
And if you detest my posts so much, you must be the world's biggest
mashochist, besides your boyfriend Phar, to continue to read the
"rants" of a Christian.
If the Christians on this line had the concern and guts to deal with you
as they should - in accordance with their Christian responsibilities there
would be no need for ANYONE ever to read your posts or respond
You need help and they should get it for you
End of problem
Sometimes even a lapsed christian will stand up to a bully in Jesus name
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19 Jan 2005 02:49:30 PM |
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"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man
cometh unto the Father, but by me."
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-- John 14:6
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19 Jan 2005 04:20:18 PM |
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wrote:
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man
cometh unto the Father, but by me."
-- John 14:6
Jesus also said:
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not
taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
-- Mat 16:28
....but he was wrong there, too.
Chris
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20 Jan 2005 03:47:05 PM |
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Allow me.
His kingdom did come shortly thereafter.
Satan was cast out, defeated by Christ. By "the blood of the lamb
Satan was cast out".Christ was given a Crown to represent His Kingdom
come, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The same were standing there as
Jesus ascended into Heaven, into His kingdom.
Into Glory at the right hand of the Father. They seen Him coming in
His kingdom. His kingdom is not of this world.
Bible! - www.e-sword.net
Shaqad - www.angelfire.com/oz2/shaqad
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20 Jan 2005 05:46:19 PM |
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"Shaqad" <shaqad@netzero.com> wrote:
His kingdom did come shortly thereafter.
Satan was cast out, defeated by Christ. By "the blood of the lamb
Satan was cast out".Christ was given a Crown to represent His Kingdom
come, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The same were standing there as
Jesus ascended into Heaven, into His kingdom.
Into Glory at the right hand of the Father. They seen Him coming in
His kingdom. His kingdom is not of this world.
Nice try.
Jesus told all about what was supposed to happen but didn't:
Mat 24:29-34 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall
the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the
stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be
shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and
then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the
Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and
they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end
of heaven to the other.
Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet
tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh:
So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it
is near, [even] at the doors.
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all
these things be fulfilled."
(Also notice the two cosmological errors Jesus makes in this passage!
1. The moon does not "give her light" at all. It has no light to
give. It is a cold body that merely reflects the sun's light.
2. The stars cannot fall from heaven. Jesus believed the Earth was
flat and the stars were like "burning figs" that were hung from the
rigid skydome.)
Chris
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