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Religions > Bible |
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"Donna" |
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06 Oct 2005 02:07:38 PM |
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Beware of those who sow false seeds |
There are those who are who are sowing seeds of doubt against God and His
Holy Word, and more and more, as the end approaches. Be aware friends and
put on the whole armor of God. It is my prayer for all of us and why I
share the following:
"Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from
the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them
that dwell upon the earth." Revelation 3:10.
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our guard,
he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of the world, and
many other evil traits. He will also use every possible device to unsettle
our faith in God and in the truths of His Word. If we have not a deep
experience in the things of God, if we have not a thorough knowledge of His
Word, we shall be beguiled to our ruin by the errors and sophistries of the
enemy. False doctrines will sap the foundations of man, because they have
not learned to discern truth from error. Our only safeguard against the
wiles of Satan is to study the Scriptures diligently, to have an intelligent
understanding of the reasons of our faith, and faithfully to perform every
known duty. The indulgence of one known sin will cause weakness and darkness
and subject us to fierce temptation.
Are our supplications ascending to God in living faith? Are we opening
the door of the heart to Jesus and closing every means of entrance to Satan?
Are we daily obtaining clearer light and greater strength, that we may stand
in Christ's righteousness? Are we emptying our hearts of all selfishness,
and cleansing them, preparatory to receiving the latter rain from heaven?
Now is the time when we are to confess and forsake our sins, that they may
go beforehand to judgment and be blotted out. Now is the time to "cleanse
ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness
in the fear of God" (2 Cor. 7:1). It is dangerous to delay this work. Satan
is even now seeking by disasters upon sea and land to seal the fate of as
many as possible. What is the defense of the people of God at this time? It
is a living connection with heaven. If we would dwell in safety from the
noisome pestilence, if we would be preserved from dangers seen and unseen,
we must hide in God; we must secure the protecting care of Jesus and holy
angels." In Heavenly Places, p.348.
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 06:40:54 AM |
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"Donna" <Donna@nospam.com> shamelessly dissembled:
There are those who are who are sowing seeds of doubt against God and His
Holy Word, and more and more, as the end approaches. Be aware friends and
put on the whole armor of God. It is my prayer for all of us and why I
share the following:
How can you "sow seeds of doubt" about a patently preposterous concept
of an invisible sky fairy with no place in the universe to inhabit, no
plausibility, and no point of contact with reality? and why shpould
anybody place credence in the first place oin words full of holes?
Resorting to hysterical nonsense aboput those who are sensible, and
simply have no truck in the first place with such unsupportable
beliefs betrays the fact that you either do not believe this yourself,
or are truly psychotic.
Come back with some real evidence or not at all.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 10:53:21 AM |
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"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:7dnck1lvc6f01eqinc558qut2tfi1vreof@4ax.com...
"Donna" <Donna@nospam.com> shamelessly dissembled:
There are those who are who are sowing seeds of doubt against God and His
Holy Word, and more and more, as the end approaches. Be aware friends and
put on the whole armor of God. It is my prayer for all of us and why I
share the following:
How can you "sow seeds of doubt" about a patently preposterous concept
of an invisible sky fairy with no place in the universe to inhabit, no
plausibility, and no point of contact with reality? and why shpould
anybody place credence in the first place oin words full of holes?
Resorting to hysterical nonsense aboput those who are sensible, and
simply have no truck in the first place with such unsupportable
beliefs betrays the fact that you either do not believe this yourself,
or are truly psychotic.
Come back with some real evidence or not at all.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do
something about it."
According to the list of newsgroups on top here, this was only posted to
religious groups, perhaps you would feel more at home in alt.atheism instead
of trolling over here. (Either you're too stupid to know Christians don't
worship a "sky god" or you're deliberately trolling.)
Actually, the real dichotomy is the attempt to apply Western thought
processes (Aristolean Logic and Hermeutics) to a Book written to an ancient
Eastern people.
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called "believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
Fundamentalists are closer to Atheists than they are to believers.
Fundamentalism and Atheism look for proofs, while believers don't need them.
Fundamentalism is not belief, it's a pseudo-science. When you mix pagan
logic with religion, you end up with Fundamentalism and when you mix pagan
logic with science, you end up with Atheism, but belief and religion are the
domain of the heart's wonder at the unknown and unknowable, not logic. When
an Athist looks into the unknown and unknowable, he wants to study it and
when the Fundamentalist looks into the unknow and unknowableness, he wants
to make a doctrine out of it. Agosticism is closer to Belief than
Fundamentalism, when an Agnostic looks into the unknown and unknowable, he
is stuck with the unknowableness of it, while when a believer looks into the
unknown and unknowableness he sees the "handprint" of God.
--
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 11:46:27 AM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
According to the list of newsgroups on top here, this was only posted to
religious groups
Stop whining. Free.christians is not a religious group, it is a free
discussion newsgroup which nobody does or can own. None of the others
have charters or faq so there is nothing to violate. I am not the one
with a problem about facing/discussing the truth.
The OP was telling lies about atheists and agnostics, Christians'
stock-in-trade. We have a right to defend ourselves wherever we are
being lied about. Is that OK by you? I didn't think so. Tough.
You are welcome in alt.atheism, as long as you are prepared to offer
concrete matters for discussion and if you don't mind getting
slaughtered in a fair debate.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 12:33:35 PM |
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"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:j49dk152gjcgk75amv149j0tubcafujgr6@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
According to the list of newsgroups on top here, this was only posted to
religious groups
Stop whining. Free.christians is not a religious group, it is a free
discussion newsgroup which nobody does or can own. None of the others
have charters or faq so there is nothing to violate. I am not the one
with a problem about facing/discussing the truth.
you are posting in
alt.religion.christian.adventist,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.religion.christnet,free.christians,alt.bible
They are definitely groups where religious people go to discuss, you are a
troll.
The OP was telling lies about atheists and agnostics, Christians'
stock-in-trade. We have a right to defend ourselves wherever we are
being lied about. Is that OK by you? I didn't think so. Tough.
You are welcome in alt.atheism, as long as you are prepared to offer
concrete matters for discussion and if you don't mind getting
slaughtered in a fair debate.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 12:45:19 PM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
you are posting in
alt.religion.christian.adventist,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.religion.christnet,free.christians,alt.bible
They are definitely groups where religious people go to discuss, you are a
troll.
Listen, goldfish-brain. I already answered that point.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 04:43:15 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:45:19 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
you are posting in
alt.religion.christian.adventist,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.religion.christnet,free.christians,alt.bible
They are definitely groups where religious people go to discuss, you are a
troll.
Listen, goldfish-brain. I already answered that point.
David,
That is a logical fallacy and not true to fact. If he had a gold fish
brain he would not be able to communicate with you. You are making
atheists look bad be having to resort to emotionalism and illogic to
win an argument.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
08 Oct 2005 07:31:33 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:43:15 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:45:19 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
you are posting in
alt.religion.christian.adventist,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.religion.christnet,free.christians,alt.bible
They are definitely groups where religious people go to discuss, you are a
troll.
Listen, goldfish-brain. I already answered that point.
David,
That is a logical fallacy and not true to fact. If he had a gold fish
brain he would not be able to communicate with you. You are making
atheists look bad be having to resort to emotionalism and illogic to
win an argument.
Thanks for that. He certainly does not help. If indeed he did invade
your newsgroup uninvited he does not speak for this atheist.
t'would be nice if Christians stopped invading ours though.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
08 Oct 2005 10:23:36 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:31:33 +0100, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:43:15 GMT, Bible Bob
<biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:45:19 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
you are posting in
alt.religion.christian.adventist,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.religion.christnet,free.christians,alt.bible
They are definitely groups where religious people go to discuss, you are a
troll.
Listen, goldfish-brain. I already answered that point.
David,
That is a logical fallacy and not true to fact. If he had a gold fish
brain he would not be able to communicate with you. You are making
atheists look bad be having to resort to emotionalism and illogic to
win an argument.
Thanks for that. He certainly does not help. If indeed he did invade
your newsgroup uninvited he does not speak for this atheist.
t'would be nice if Christians stopped invading ours though.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
Les,
Oops! I see that this was crossposted to a.a. It was not originally
posted to a.a.
David did not invade the f.c. group. He has been here for ages and
is a respected poster in this group.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 11:37:40 AM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called "believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 11:47:24 AM |
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"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
--
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 12:18:15 PM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 12:31:33 PM |
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"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an Infinite
Being not limited to the sky....you might get further if you were to
familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups you are
trolling in.
--
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 12:43:48 PM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an Infinite
Being not limited to the sky....
That's you personal take on him. It isn't what your Bible says.
you might get further if you were to
familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups you are
trolling in.
I was brought up surrounded with them, I went to a UK state school
where it was compulsory.
Calling me a troll isn't going to alter one shred of the fabric of
reality, niether is it going to stop me from defending
atheists/agnostics from the vile calumnies of theist hysterics.
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"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 02:06:14 PM |
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"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
Neither athiests nor agnostics are mentioned in what you have pasted above.
Do you know how to read.? Do you need new glasses? Do you frequently have
visions of this sort?
--
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 02:42:12 PM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
Neither athiests nor agnostics are mentioned in what you have pasted above.
Do you know how to read.? Do you need new glasses? Do you frequently have
visions of this sort?
Try reading the title of this fucking thread.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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07 Oct 2005 03:53:10 PM |
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"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
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"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that
and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious
groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have
heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
Neither athiests nor agnostics are mentioned in what you have pasted
above.
Do you know how to read.? Do you need new glasses? Do you frequently
have
visions of this sort?
Try reading the title of this fucking thread.
I repeat: Neither athiests nor agnostics are mentioned in the title of this
thread. Do you know how to read.? Do you need new glasses? Do you
frequently have visions of this sort?
BTW & FYI - if you knew a little more about the groups you are trolling --
"Beware of those who sow false seeds" usually refers to other Theists that
the person disagrees with. Probably 99.9% of the time it's a phrase that
would be used by one brand of Fundamentalist against either other brands of
Fundamentalism or other Christian groups the person perceives to be a
"cult." (Note that Fundamentalism isn't the only form of Christianity and
IMO, not even a legitimate form of Christianity...thus, I could say that
Fundamentalists "sow false seeds," I could, but probably wouldn't phrase it
that way.)
--
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
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07 Oct 2005 04:29:35 PM |
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Such as Saul/Paul of Tarsus, inventor of the Christos Cult
with its renamed savior god, promising imminent escape into
"the air"??? -- L.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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07 Oct 2005 05:06:39 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:42:12 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
Neither athiests nor agnostics are mentioned in what you have pasted above.
Do you know how to read.? Do you need new glasses? Do you frequently have
visions of this sort?
Try reading the title of this fucking thread.
David,
"Atheist" does not appear in the subject line. Atheists are not
mentioned in the paragraph. Are you saying that Atheists, sow false
seeds? Last I heard it was false teachers and false prophets that
sowed false seeds. Are you saying that Atheists are false teachers
and false prophets?
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Soul food" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
08 Oct 2005 02:50:14 AM |
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Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> shamelessly dissembled:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:42:12 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:bhcdk1hub7j4edovs3e1gct3tdppcgv31s@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
Neither athiests nor agnostics are mentioned in what you have pasted above.
Do you know how to read.? Do you need new glasses? Do you frequently have
visions of this sort?
Try reading the title of this fucking thread.
David,
"Atheist" does not appear in the subject line. Atheists are not
mentioned in the paragraph. Are you saying that Atheists, sow false
seeds? Last I heard it was false teachers and false prophets that
sowed false seeds. Are you saying that Atheists are false teachers
and false prophets?
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
The title refers to those who 'sow false seeds', the author further
clarifies that by citing those who "unsettle our faith in god and in
the truths of his word" the last five words of that statement are in
and of themselves a vile calumny against those who do not share your
beliefs, and the reference to the Devil makes it absolutely clear
whath the author is thinking. None of you Christers were prepared to
see that or deal with it.
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
08 Oct 2005 09:55:41 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:50:14 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
Bible Bob <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> shamelessly dissembled:
On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:42:12 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
Neither athiests nor agnostics are mentioned in what you have pasted above.
Do you know how to read.? Do you need new glasses? Do you frequently have
visions of this sort?
Try reading the title of this fucking thread.
David,
"Atheist" does not appear in the subject line. Atheists are not
mentioned in the paragraph. Are you saying that Atheists, sow false
seeds? Last I heard it was false teachers and false prophets that
sowed false seeds. Are you saying that Atheists are false teachers
and false prophets?
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
The title refers to those who 'sow false seeds', the author further
clarifies that by citing those who "unsettle our faith in god and in
the truths of his word" the last five words of that statement are in
and of themselves a vile calumny against those who do not share your
beliefs, and the reference to the Devil makes it absolutely clear
whath the author is thinking. None of you Christers were prepared to
see that or deal with it.
David,
Are you saying that atheists "unsettle our faith in God and in the
truth of His word?" Since when can an atheist do that? You give too
much credit where it is not due. I understand the lingo the OP used
and she was speaking of false teachers and false prophets. It wasn't
that we could not see what you saw. We weren't looking for it. We
saw what was communicated. You read into what was said. I read what
was said in the light in which it was said. That makes you wrong and
me right as usual:).
I thought is was kewl to catch in you in a booboo. It was a rare
opportunity and I jumped into it for the fun of it; not because I have
contempt or malice towards you. I caught you outside the atheist
group and took advantage of the opporunity.
Please don't be offended.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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07 Oct 2005 04:40:34 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:43:48 +0100, Soul food <cthulhu@soulstogo.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and
do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious groups,
we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have heard
the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
I did not post the OP, ''Donna" did and it was a vile calumny upon all
atheists and agnostics. Let me refresh your goldfish-like memory:
"Satan is now more earnestly engaged in playing the game of life for
souls than at any previous time; and unless we are constantly on our
guard, he will establish in our hearts, pride, love of self, love of
the world, and many other evil traits. He will also use every possible
device to unsettle our faith in God and in the truths of His Word."
David,
Are you saying that atheists are in league with Satan? I thought true
atheists did not believe in Satan. The OP did not use the word
atheist in her paragraph. Why would you draw a paralell between what
she was talking about and atheists?
B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an Infinite
Being not limited to the sky....
That's you personal take on him. It isn't what your Bible says.
you might get further if you were to
familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups you are
trolling in.
I was brought up surrounded with them, I went to a UK state school
where it was compulsory.
Are you saying that you are the product of the socialist elitist
propaganda machine that has pretty muched ruined the UK?
Calling me a troll isn't going to alter one shred of the fabric of
reality, niether is it going to stop me from defending
atheists/agnostics from the vile calumnies of theist hysterics.
Why do atheists and agnostics need to be defended? They need none.
God gave them free will.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and religion.
The future of civilisation rests upon how many people realise that and do something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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07 Oct 2005 01:20:09 PM |
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:Vhy1f.546$C55.510@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and
religion. The future of civilisation rests upon how many people
realise that and do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious
groups, we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have
heard the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
Your demand to reverse the burden of proof is itself evidence that it
wasn't. If you had anything at all, you'd produce it instead of playing
that game.
B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an
Infinite Being not limited to the sky....you might get further if you
were to familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups
you are trolling in.
You just contradicted the Bible on that.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"If they want to have peace,
they have to accept to be governed by Islam."
- Abu Bakar Bashir
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| User: "Terrell D Lewis" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 02:19:06 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:Vhy1f.546$C55.510@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
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"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and
religion. The future of civilisation rests upon how many people
realise that and do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious
groups, we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have
heard the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
Your demand to reverse the burden of proof is itself evidence that it
wasn't. If you had anything at all, you'd produce it instead of playing
that game.
Either in the thread, I drew a diference between believing and knowing:
Fundamentalists are closer to Atheists than they are to believers.
Fundamentalism and Atheism look for proofs, while believers don't need them.
Fundamentalism is not belief, it's a pseudo-science. When you mix pagan
logic with religion, you end up with Fundamentalism and when you mix pagan
logic with science, you end up with Atheism, but belief and religion is the
domain of the heart's wonder at the unknown and unknowable, not logic. When
an Atheist looks into the unknown and unknowable, he wants to study it and
when the Fundamentalist looks into the unknown and unknowableness, he wants
to make a doctrine out of it. Agnosticism is closer to Belief than
Fundamentalism, when an Agnostic looks into the unknown and unknowable, he
is stuck with the unknowableness of it, while when a believer looks into the
unknown and unknowableness he sees the "handprint" of God.
B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an
Infinite Being not limited to the sky....you might get further if you
were to familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups
you are trolling in.
You just contradicted the Bible on that.
A. The Bible never calls Yahweh a "sky god."
B. As an athiest, you have as much credibility interpreting the Bible as I
would interpreting the Humanist Manifesto.
C. I'm not a Fundamentalist, I'm a Mystic, the Bible does not have to be
factually proven to be spiritually useful.
--
Terrell
http://lastofall.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 04:54:37 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:20:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:Vhy1f.546$C55.510@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
dissembled:
You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
"believers."
If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
------------------------------------------------
"The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and
religion. The future of civilisation rests upon how many people
realise that and do
something about it."
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious
groups, we'll add your group to the discussion.
For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have
heard the
same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
says it was' ?
A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
Your demand to reverse the burden of proof is itself evidence that it
wasn't. If you had anything at all, you'd produce it instead of playing
that game.
B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an
Infinite Being not limited to the sky....you might get further if you
were to familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups
you are trolling in.
You just contradicted the Bible on that.
Fred,
It is not the believer's job to prove his belief. Atheists are
believers and resent it when a believer asks for proof that there is
no God. Christians are believers and do not have to prove their
beliefs. Each of us is required to explain our beliefs only to
ourselves.
Besides, the Christian has the disadvantage of too much evidence for
God while the Atheist has no proof of no God. Atheism requires little
knowledge and little belief. The reason the Christian is
disadvantaged is because it is hard to present truth to a mind that
can hold only one belief.
There is no such thing as an Atheist. An Atheist believes that he is
god and that there is no other god over him. Some of the less honest
Atheists will try to change the meaning of god to a diety so they can
argue that they are not their own god because they are not a diety
when in truth to themselves they are a diety. Others will argue that
they do not believe that they are a god and at the same time argue
that they are the sole rulers of their lives. Pilate said "What is
truth." The Atheist says "What I believe is truth". The Christian
will say "What I believe is truth." What is truth? God knows.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Just Mark - John Wolfs biggest fan" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 07:53:26 PM |
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"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:p0rdk1lqhj778nl0a5ct6lf8ma6v3ak2ki@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:20:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
: wrote:
:
: >"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
: >news:Vhy1f.546$C55.510@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
: >
: >>
: >> "Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
: >> news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
: >>> "Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
: >>> dissembled:
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>>"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
: >>>>news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
: >>>>> "Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
: >>>>> dissembled:
: >>>>>
: >>>>>>You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
: >>>>>>"believers."
: >>>>>>If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
: >>>>>
: >>>>> One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
: >>>>> that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> ------------------------------------------------
: >>>>> "The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and
: >>>>> religion. The future of civilisation rests upon how many people
: >>>>> realise that and do
: >>>>> something about it."
: >>>>>
: >>>>> D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
: >>>>>
: >>>>> AA #2208
: >>>>
: >>>>Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious
: >>>>groups, we'll add your group to the discussion.
: >>>>
: >>>>For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
: >>>>because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have
: >>>>heard the
: >>>>same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
: >>>
: >>> If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
: >>> it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
: >>> it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
: >>> paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
: >>> says it was' ?
: >>>
: >>
: >> A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
: >>
: >
: >Your demand to reverse the burden of proof is itself evidence that it
: >wasn't. If you had anything at all, you'd produce it instead of playing
: >that game.
: >
: >> B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an
: >> Infinite Being not limited to the sky....you might get further if you
: >> were to familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups
: >> you are trolling in.
: >>
: >
: >You just contradicted the Bible on that.
:
: Fred,
:
: It is not the believer's job to prove his belief. Atheists are
: believers and resent it when a believer asks for proof that there is
: no God. Christians are believers and do not have to prove their
: beliefs. Each of us is required to explain our beliefs only to
: ourselves.
See...this is another example of why maybe you should rest a little more.
You seem to have forgotten that he who makes the affirmation bears the
burden of proof, not he who doubts. It's not that atheists get resentful.
It's that we get tired of correcting theists who resort to this tactic.
:
: Besides, the Christian has the disadvantage of too much evidence for
: God while the Atheist has no proof of no God. Atheism requires little
: knowledge and little belief. The reason the Christian is
: disadvantaged is because it is hard to present truth to a mind that
: can hold only one belief.
There you go again. It's like saying, "You have no proof that there is no
Tooth Fairy". How can you NOT understand that? And...you completely lost
me on that last sentence.
:
: There is no such thing as an Atheist. An Atheist believes that he is
: god and that there is no other god over him. Some of the less honest
: Atheists will try to change the meaning of god to a diety so they can
: argue that they are not their own god because they are not a diety
: when in truth to themselves they are a diety. Others will argue that
: they do not believe that they are a god and at the same time argue
: that they are the sole rulers of their lives. Pilate said "What is
: truth." The Atheist says "What I believe is truth". The Christian
: will say "What I believe is truth." What is truth? God knows.
Wow! Ummm...want some truth? I've got some truth for ya, bud. Whatever
you're taking for pain is messing up your ability to think. That's the
truth.
JM
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 08:27:02 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:53:26 GMT, "Just Mark - John Wolf's biggest
fan" <nunyabidniss@nospam.com> wrote:
"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:p0rdk1lqhj778nl0a5ct6lf8ma6v3ak2ki@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:20:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
: wrote:
:
: >"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
: >news:Vhy1f.546$C55.510@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
: >
: >>
: >> "Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
: >> news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
: >>> "Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
: >>> dissembled:
: >>>
: >>>>
: >>>>"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
: >>>>news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
: >>>>> "Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
: >>>>> dissembled:
: >>>>>
: >>>>>>You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
: >>>>>>"believers."
: >>>>>>If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
: >>>>>
: >>>>> One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for confirming
: >>>>> that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false consciousness.
: >>>>>
: >>>>> ------------------------------------------------
: >>>>> "The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and
: >>>>> religion. The future of civilisation rests upon how many people
: >>>>> realise that and do
: >>>>> something about it."
: >>>>>
: >>>>> D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
: >>>>>
: >>>>> AA #2208
: >>>>
: >>>>Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious
: >>>>groups, we'll add your group to the discussion.
: >>>>
: >>>>For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here, just
: >>>>because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have
: >>>>heard the
: >>>>same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
: >>>
: >>> If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does make
: >>> it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that supports
: >>> it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
: >>> paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the Bible
: >>> says it was' ?
: >>>
: >>
: >> A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
: >>
: >
: >Your demand to reverse the burden of proof is itself evidence that it
: >wasn't. If you had anything at all, you'd produce it instead of playing
: >that game.
: >
: >> B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an
: >> Infinite Being not limited to the sky....you might get further if you
: >> were to familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious groups
: >> you are trolling in.
: >>
: >
: >You just contradicted the Bible on that.
:
: Fred,
:
: It is not the believer's job to prove his belief. Atheists are
: believers and resent it when a believer asks for proof that there is
: no God. Christians are believers and do not have to prove their
: beliefs. Each of us is required to explain our beliefs only to
: ourselves.
See...this is another example of why maybe you should rest a little more.
You seem to have forgotten that he who makes the affirmation bears the
burden of proof, not he who doubts. It's not that atheists get resentful.
It's that we get tired of correcting theists who resort to this tactic.
By whose rules? I don't subscribe to those rules. I doubt that there
is a US or a State Law that says that rule applies and so it is not
enforcible.
Don't get excited JM. David makes few mistakes and I am just taking
this once in a lifetime oportunity to have some fun with him. Fred
joined in and I am playing with him, too. You know I have nothing
against atheists.
:
: Besides, the Christian has the disadvantage of too much evidence for
: God while the Atheist has no proof of no God. Atheism requires little
: knowledge and little belief. The reason the Christian is
: disadvantaged is because it is hard to present truth to a mind that
: can hold only one belief.
There you go again. It's like saying, "You have no proof that there is no
Tooth Fairy". How can you NOT understand that? And...you completely lost
me on that last sentence.
:) That was the idea. I am playing atheist.
:
: There is no such thing as an Atheist. An Atheist believes that he is
: god and that there is no other god over him. Some of the less honest
: Atheists will try to change the meaning of god to a diety so they can
: argue that they are not their own god because they are not a diety
: when in truth to themselves they are a diety. Others will argue that
: they do not believe that they are a god and at the same time argue
: that they are the sole rulers of their lives. Pilate said "What is
: truth." The Atheist says "What I believe is truth". The Christian
: will say "What I believe is truth." What is truth? God knows.
Wow! Ummm...want some truth? I've got some truth for ya, bud. Whatever
you're taking for pain is messing up your ability to think. That's the
truth.
Nah! I'm taking Advil. I'm a play atheist on Advil.
JM
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
BB
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| User: "Just Mark - John Wolfs biggest fan" |
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| Title: Re: Beware of those who sow false seeds |
07 Oct 2005 11:31:43 PM |
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"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:2l7ek19tq446qchn3gplm5ruh9rjeirjjv@4ax.com...
: On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:53:26 GMT, "Just Mark - John Wolf's biggest
: fan" <nunyabidniss@nospam.com> wrote:
:
: >
: >"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
: >news:p0rdk1lqhj778nl0a5ct6lf8ma6v3ak2ki@4ax.com...
: >: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:20:09 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
: >: wrote:
: >:
: >: >"Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
: >: >news:Vhy1f.546$C55.510@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com:
: >: >
: >: >>
: >: >> "Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
: >: >> news:r7bdk15gkcfcctqedvdr9rlj9miml7sl3g@4ax.com...
: >: >>> "Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
: >: >>> dissembled:
: >: >>>
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>>"Soul food" <cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote in message
: >: >>>>news:e09dk1pn9jmu9p09spoq7965va4j25j5tl@4ax.com...
: >: >>>>> "Terrell D Lewis" <composer7NOSPAM@sbcglobal.net> shamelessly
: >: >>>>> dissembled:
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>>>You also seem to be too stupid to understand that we are called
: >: >>>>>>"believers."
: >: >>>>>>If religion was proveable, we'd be called "knowers."
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>> One thing I definitely am not is stupid, and thanks for
confirming
: >: >>>>> that belief is not knowledge, and is therefore false
consciousness.
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>> ------------------------------------------------
: >: >>>>> "The real dichotomy in today's world is between reason and
: >: >>>>> religion. The future of civilisation rests upon how many people
: >: >>>>> realise that and do
: >: >>>>> something about it."
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>> D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>> AA #2208
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>>Since you insist on trolling your Athiest views in the religious
: >: >>>>groups, we'll add your group to the discussion.
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>>For all your worship of logic, you make a false assumption here,
just
: >: >>>>because you don't know something, does not make it false. (I have
: >: >>>>heard the
: >: >>>>same argument from drunk, high-school drop-outs.)
: >: >>>
: >: >>> If something can only be sustained by belief, it very much does
make
: >: >>> it false, at least until such time as evidence emerges that
supports
: >: >>> it. Where's your evidence that the universe was created by a
: >: >>> paranoid-schizophrenic sky-fairy called Yahweh, other than 'the
Bible
: >: >>> says it was' ?
: >: >>>
: >: >>
: >: >> A. You started this, where's your evidence that it wasn't?
: >: >>
: >: >
: >: >Your demand to reverse the burden of proof is itself evidence that it
: >: >wasn't. If you had anything at all, you'd produce it instead of
playing
: >: >that game.
: >: >
: >: >> B. Yahweh is not a "sky fairy" or sky god, he is a Creator God, an
: >: >> Infinite Being not limited to the sky....you might get further if
you
: >: >> were to familiarize yourself with the beliefs of the religious
groups
: >: >> you are trolling in.
: >: >>
: >: >
: >: >You just contradicted the Bible on that.
: >:
: >: Fred,
: >:
: >: It is not the believer's job to prove his belief. Atheists are
: >: believers and resent it when a believer asks for proof that there is
: >: no God. Christians are believers and do not have to prove their
: >: beliefs. Each of us is required to explain our beliefs only to
: >: ourselves.
: >
: >See...this is another example of why maybe you should rest a little more.
: >You seem to have forgotten that he who makes the affirmation bears the
: >burden of proof, not he who doubts. It's not that atheists get
resentful.
: >It's that we get tired of correcting theists who resort to this tactic.
:
: By whose rules? I don't subscribe to those rules. I doubt that there
: is a US or a State Law that says that rule applies and so it is not
: enforcible.
Are you seriously telling me that you've never heard of "bearing the burden
of proof"? C'mon, Bob. You tease...
:
: Don't get excited JM. David makes few mistakes and I am just taking
: this once in a lifetime oportunity to have some fun with him. Fred
: joined in and I am playing with him, too. You know I have nothing
: against atheists.
Excited? Nah. Entertained? Sure.
: >
: >:
: >: Besides, the Christian has the disadvantage of too much evidence for
: >: God while the Atheist has no proof of no God. Atheism requires little
: >: knowledge and little belief. The reason the Christian is
: >: disadvantaged is because it is hard to present truth to a mind that
: >: can hold only one belief.
: >
: >There you go again. It's like saying, "You have no proof that there is
no
: >Tooth Fairy". How can you NOT understand that? And...you completely
lost
: >me on that last sentence.
:
::) That was the idea. I am playing atheist.
Hmm...you're not very good at it. You never really were an atheist, were
you.
: >
: >:
: >: There is no such thing as an Atheist. An Atheist believes that he is
: >: god and that there is no other god over him. Some of the less honest
: >: Atheists will try to change the meaning of god to a diety so they can
: >: argue that they are not their own god because they are not a diety
: >: when in truth to themselves they are a diety. Others will argue that
: >: they do not believe that they are a god and at the same time argue
: >: that they are the sole rulers of their lives. Pilate said "What is
: >: truth." The Atheist says "What I believe is truth". The Christian
: >: will say "What I believe is truth." What is truth? God knows.
: >
: >Wow! Ummm...want some truth? I've got some truth for ya, bud. Whatever
: >you're taking for pain is messing up your ability to think. That's the
: >t | | | | | | | | | | | |
