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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Max Mustermann"
Date: 04 Jan 2005 02:27:54 AM
Object: Beware Those WTS Tea Leaves And Crystal Balls.
Governing Body confusion and delusions.
What *spirits* are they really contacting? <g>
----- Original Message -----
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:29 PM
Subject: The beginning of the END!
I have to wonder how God got ANYTHING done without the help of
the
Watchtower.....
"Beginning of the End" in 1799 (later changed to 1914).
"1799 definitely markes the beginning of 'the time of the end.'
. . . 'The
time of the end' embraces a period from A.D. 1799, as above
indicated, to the
time of the complete overthrow of Satan's empire. . . . We have
been in 'the
time of the end' since 1799." -- The Harp of God, (1928 ed.);
235-236, 239
Christ's "Invisible Presence" begins in 1874 (later changed to
1914).
"The time of the Lord's second presence dates from 1874. . . .
From 1974
forward is the latter part of the period of 'the time of the
end.' From
1874 is the time of the Lord's second presence." -- The Harp of
God, 236,
239-240.
The Battle of Armageddon ends in 1914 (later changed to "still
future").
"The 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Rev. 16:14),
which will
end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present
rulership, is
already commenced." -- Charles Taze Russell, The Time Is at
Hand, 101.
The Battle of Armageddon will end shortly after 1914.
"In the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and
the church
members by millions, it shall be that any that escape shall
come to the
works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of
Christianity.'" -- Charles Taze Russell, The Finished Mystery
(1917 ed. published
post-humously), 485.
The Battle of Armageddon will come around 1925.
"The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the
Scriptures because
it is fixed by the law God gave to Israel. Viewing the present
situation in
Europe, one wonders how it will be possible to hold back the
explosion
much longer; and that even before 1925 the great crisis will be
reached and
probably passed." -- The Watch Tower (July 15, 1924): 211.
1914 is the starting date for the last generation before the
Battle of
Armageddon.
"The thirty-six intervening years since 1914, instead of
postponing
Armageddon,
have only made it nearer than most people think. Do not
forget: 'This
generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled'"
(Matt.
24:34). -- The Watchtower (November 15, 1950): 419.
People who were present and understood the events of 1914 will
live to see
the Battle of Armageddon.
"Jesus said, 'This generation will by no means pass away until
all these
things occur.' Which generation is this, and how long is it? .
. . The
'generation' logically would not apply to babies born during
World War I. It applied
to Christ's followers and others who were able to observe that
war and the
other things that have occurred in fulfillment of Jesus'
composite 'sign.' Some
of such persons 'will by no means pass away until' all of what
Christ
prophesied occurs, including the end of the present wicked
system." -- The Watchtower
(October 1, 1978): 31.
Anyone born by 1914 will ive to see Armageddon.
"If Jesus used 'generation' in that sense and we apply it to
1914, then
the babies of that generation are now seventy years old or
older. And others
alive in 1914 are in their eighties or nineties, a few even
having reached one
hundred. There are still many millions of that generation
alive. Some of
them 'will by no means pass away until all things occur'" (Luke
21:32). -- The Watchtower (May 15, 1984): 5
Anyone who sees the events signaling the End, regardless of any
relationship to 1914, will see the Battle of Armageddon.
"Eager to see the end of this evil system, Jehovah's People
have at times
speculated about the time when the 'great tribulation' would
break out,
even tying this to calculations of what is the lifetime of a
generation since
1914. However we 'bring a heart of wisdom in' not by speculating
about how many
years or days make up a generation. . . . 'This generation'
apparently refers
to the peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ's presence
but fail to mend
their
ways." -- The Watchtower (November 1, 1995): 17-20
----------- ------------- ----------- -----------
ALL this from the teachings of those who claim to be God's ONLY
channel of
communication on earth today.
.

User: ".Obsidian."

Title: Re: Beware Those WTS Tea Leaves And Crystal Balls. 04 Jan 2005 03:38:18 AM
"Max Mustermann" <anonymous@remail.amessage.info> wrote in message
news:c6cd835784c77087a2baf9521d167363@remail.amessage.info...

Governing Body confusion and delusions.
What *spirits* are they really contacting? <g>

----- Original Message -----
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:29 PM
Subject: The beginning of the END!

I have to wonder how God got ANYTHING done without the help of
the
Watchtower.....

"Beginning of the End" in 1799 (later changed to 1914).

Isn't that special. Tell me yawheh ( avert thine eyes) fans .
If your child was dying would you alllllow a blood transfusion to save said
childs life
'enquiring minds wanna know'
/Obsidian
Religious Kookage.
Much fun
.
User: "Spammie Knott"

Title: Re: Beware Those WTS Tea Leaves And Crystal Balls. 04 Jan 2005 11:21:08 AM
".Obsidian." <Obsidian@.databasix.com> wrote in message
news:crdo6d$g2d$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com...


"Max Mustermann" <anonymous@remail.amessage.info> wrote in message
news:c6cd835784c77087a2baf9521d167363@remail.amessage.info...

Governing Body confusion and delusions.
What *spirits* are they really contacting? <g>

----- Original Message -----
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:29 PM
Subject: The beginning of the END!

I have to wonder how God got ANYTHING done without the help of
the
Watchtower.....

"Beginning of the End" in 1799 (later changed to 1914).


Isn't that special. Tell me yawheh ( avert thine eyes) fans .
If your child was dying would you alllllow a blood transfusion to save

said

childs life

'enquiring minds wanna know'

/Obsidian


Religious Kookage.

Much fun

=======================
The JW will allow the child to DIE! That's what they are taught by their
leaders that their killer-god desires and requires. I think they need a
kinder more loving god to idolize. There are thousands of real, true,
living gods out there to choose from....
--
Mee......
The Watchtower, January 15, 1983, p. 22
"Avoid Independent Thinking . How is such
independent thinking manifested? A common way
is by questioning the counsel that is provided by
God's visible organization."
The WTS/GB wants you to become a mindless automaton.
Do not question what they say.
Do not think about what they say, just accept it.
Do not read the bible on your own, always use their "Aids."
Accept that the Governing Body believes itself equal to God.
~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*
.

User: "Fred Hall"

Title: Re: Beware Those WTS Tea Leaves And Crystal Balls. 04 Jan 2005 09:32:10 PM
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:38:18 +1100, ".Obsidian."
<Obsidian@.databasix.com> wrote:


"Max Mustermann" <anonymous@remail.amessage.info> wrote in message
news:c6cd835784c77087a2baf9521d167363@remail.amessage.info...

Governing Body confusion and delusions.
What *spirits* are they really contacting? <g>

----- Original Message -----
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:29 PM
Subject: The beginning of the END!

I have to wonder how God got ANYTHING done without the help of
the
Watchtower.....

"Beginning of the End" in 1799 (later changed to 1914).


Isn't that special. Tell me yawheh ( avert thine eyes) fans .
If your child was dying would you alllllow a blood transfusion to save said
childs life

'enquiring minds wanna know'

/Obsidian


Religious Kookage.

Much fun

You should check out the poster that goes by Jabriol, who is a jaydub.
I would have nominated him for Ghoul of the Year, but I didn't think
he stood a chance against Dr. "ghoul" Turi.
Do they still have joeys in 'straya?
Good to see you back posting, .Obsidian.
.



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