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"SJAB1958" |
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01 Nov 2005 02:46:30 AM |
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Bewildered tries again. |
God created all things; including a garden paradise on earth, which was
called Eden. In this garden He planted the Tree of Knowledge.
He then set man in Eden to tend the soil. God told man he could eat of
all things except the Tree of Knowledge, for if he did he would surely
die.
Would it not have been better not to put that Tree within reach of the
man?
God then created woman to be the mate of man, but didn't tell her not
to eat of the Tree of Knowledge.
Yet when the serpent - made by God to be the wisest of all creatures
- challenged the woman on this issue, she knew she shouldn't eat of
that Tree.
How could she know this, as it isn't stated in the text that she was
told anything directly?
Yet the serpent was able to persuade her to ignore this warning from
God. And the woman in her turn was able to encourage the man to do
likewise.
As they had no knowledge of good and evil before eating of the fruit of
the Tree, how can it be said that they sinned against God?
And why did God curse and punish the man, woman and serpent for being
exactly as He had made them to be?
And after casting the man and woman out of Eden, He turned His back on
them as they toiled and struggled and raised their children.
What knowledge did those children have of God?
And much later, when humanity was spreading across the world, God
decided that He would destroy the world with a flood, because man's
corruption was spreading.
Why did God leave it until it became such a big problem that only a
devastating flood could sort it all out?
And again when the survivors spread across the world, God seemed to
leave them to their own devices until they started to try and reach
heaven with a mighty tower.
And God then caused all humanity to speak with different languages so
that they would not be able to work together in that way again.
Surely this was what God wanted them to do, to reach towards Him again?
All these dreadful punishments and others are commonplace in the Old
Testament writings.
Yet in the New Testament writings, Jesus speaks of a loving and
forgiving God, not a God of vengeance and punishments.
How can these two different descriptions of God in the Bible be
reconciled to each other?
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Bewildered tries again. |
01 Nov 2005 10:19:07 AM |
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SJAB1958 wrote:
God created all things; including a garden paradise on earth, which was
called Eden. In this garden He planted the Tree of Knowledge.
He then set man in Eden to tend the soil. God told man he could eat of
all things except the Tree of Knowledge, for if he did he would surely
die.
===>He would DIE THAT DAY.
He did not!
It was just an empty threat.
YHWH LIED!
The snake told the truth.
Of course it is just a fable showing the incompetence
of a wrathful, jealous, thoughtless deity who a few
chapters later is shown as being sorry he made that
whole mess. -- L.
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| User: "SJAB1958" |
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| Title: Re: Bewildered tries again. |
01 Nov 2005 06:16:20 PM |
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not snake, serpent, which in many cultures around the world means DRAGON
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| User: "SJAB1958" |
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| Title: Re: Bewildered tries again. |
02 Nov 2005 06:35:21 AM |
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Still dont seem to be getting answers from the opposition yet.
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| User: "SJAB1958" |
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| Title: Re: Bewildered tries again. |
01 Nov 2005 04:19:41 AM |
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why do my questions always seem to generate nothing but silence?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Bewildered tries again. |
01 Nov 2005 09:43:45 AM |
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"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130840381.597059.139740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
why do my questions always seem to generate nothing but silence?
Rational, straight-forward questions always end up that way here. It seems
that they will only respond to name-calling responses so they will not have
to address the argument. It's not very intellectually stimulating. At
least at talk.origins people will engage those like RD and Pastor Dave.
Watchagonnado?
JR
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