God takes credit or blame, which ever way you read it; for both the
Bible and the interpretations. There is nothing in the Bible that
changes the basic message.

YM1
2 Timothy 3:16 says "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness: 17. That the man of God may be perfect,
thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

God takes credit or blame, which ever way you read it; for both the
Bible and the interpretations. There is nothing in the Bible that
changes the basic message.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:20:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote

According to God's Word the Bible, Jesus did not have
brothers. It is strange that anyone would think different
given the language, customs of the time.

Here's the problem. Protestants, believing that God left them the
Bible so that no one else could deceive them, naturally conclude from
this false premise, that God would not deceive them in their
interpretations, and that all the answers *must* be there.

YM1
2 Timothy 3:16 says "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness: 17. That the man of God may be perfect,
thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

God takes credit or blame, which ever way you read it; for both the
Bible and the interpretations. There is nothing in the Bible that
changes the basic message.

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:20:19 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:

"jsm" <jsm542@yahoo.com> wrote

According to God's Word the Bible, Jesus did not have
brothers. It is strange that anyone would think different
given the language, customs of the time.

Here's the problem. Protestants, believing that God left them the Bible so
that no one else could deceive them, naturally conclude from this false
premise, that God would not deceive them in their interpretations, and that
all the answers *must* be there.

YM1
2 Timothy 3:16 says "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and
is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for
instruction in righteousness: 17. That the man of God may be perfect,
thoroughly furnished unto all good works."

God takes credit or blame, which ever way you read it; for both the
Bible and the interpretations. There is nothing in the Bible that
changes the basic message.

John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<jlkkivguv7v6dftsjvngabsl3bvmg3maug@4ax.com>...

On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 09:46:38 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:

"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:t2njiv0neic60nh5ebb0urij4c3hhdccsc@4ax.com...

On 31 Jul 2003 19:32:59 -0700,

According to God's Word the Bible, Jesus did not have
brothers. It is strange that anyone would think different
given the language, customs of the time.

Mary wife of Cleophas and "sister" of the Virgin Mary
(Jn 19:25) is the mother of James and Joset (Mk 15:47;
Mt 27:56) who are called the "brothers of Jesus" (Mk 6:3).
Acts 1:12-15 ... apostles, Mary, "some women" and Jesus'
"brothers" number about 120. That is a lot of "brothers."
Gen 14:14 ... Lot, Abraham's nephew (Gen 11:26-28), described
as Abraham's brother (KJV). Gen 29:15 ... Laban, Jacob's uncle,
calls Jacob his "brother" (KJV). John 19:26-27 ...
Jesus gives care of Mary to John, not one of his "brothers."
2 Sam 6:23, Gen 8:7, Dt 34:6 ... "until."

Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z Why are you, a Roman Catholic, in a
Baptist group, proselytizing? NAughty, naughty!

LOL - can't refute the claims... so you complain about where he's posting.

Well it goes both ways John ... why are you in the Roman Catholic newsgroup
lying about the Roman Catholic faith. Although it is EXTREMELY enjoyable
seeing your lies decimated by so many.

You know you really aren't worth the bother. And I'm glad I give you
amusement. You amuse me, too.

What is not amuseing is that your jealousy and hatred of the
Catholic Church blinds you to the truth of the Catholic Church.
The Catholic Church can be traced back to Jesus and His Apostles
2000 years by Catholic and non Catholic sources. You have admitted
in other posts that the Catholic Church Is 1st century.

At the time, Jesus would

not have been credible if he were not married.

Ridiculous! And who told you such nonsense? Or are you making it up as
you go?

On 11 Aug 2003 10:16:30 -0700,

Michael Kellogg <michael@kelloggs.org> wrote in message news:<Xns93D3F347ABA1mk13579@199.45.49.11>...

Libertarius <The_Truth_The_Whole_Truth@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:

According to the Word, Jesus DID have brothers,

===>Of course he did, and sisters and a wife
"And the Mate of the [Christ] is Mariam Magdalene.
The [Lord loved] Mariam more than [all the other]
Disciples, [and he] kissed her often on her [mouth.
(Ph 35, 36) He embraced] the other women also, yet
they said to him: Why do thou love [her] more than
all of us?
There were three Mariams who walked with the Lord
at all times: his mother and [his] sister and the
Magdalene, she who is called his
mate. Thus his (true) Mother, Sister and Mate is
(also) called ?Mariam?.
(GOSPEL OF PHILIP)

Great source: an apocryphal, Gnostic gospel. Credibility is left to the
reader, I suppose.

Threads like these are the first step toward Christian Protestant
churches canonizing their own New Testaments.

It may be apocryphal but it seems to be true.

In what way? To whom? Says whom?

At the time, Jesus would

not have been credible if he were not married.

Ridiculous! And who told you such nonsense? Or are you making it up as
you go?

Also we know that when Christians took control of the records they
destroyed anything which might not fit into their version.

Satanic lies! Where did you get such absurd information? We have 1st C
texts that conform to the Bible we have, and we have first C mystery
books, including 1st C A. Where did you EVER hear that Christians
destroyed all the anti-Christ materials? LOL! Those who refuse to
believe in God/Christ will obviously believe ANY damn fool thing!

LOL!

However, many fragments of Gnostic Gospels such as this and the Gospel
according to St Thomas have been retrieved.

And if you prefer unknown authorship and questionable text MERELY
because it "contradicts" the Bible, you have a black heart.

Another factor has been the schizophrenic attitude of the RC Church
towards Mary Magdalene. They identified her with the woman "taken in
sin", hence the infamous Magdalene Laundries.

And your NEXT big mistake is to confuse the RCC with Christianity.

It is only in recent times that they have admitted that there is no
basis for this opinion.

Flora

Nor is there any basis for MUCH of what you expressed as fact.

John W


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in article 3F381679.33BE9AF5@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net, Libertarius at
Libertarius@Nothing_But_The_Truth.net wrote on 8/11/03 5:19 PM:

flora macdonald wrote:

Michael Kellogg <michael@kelloggs.org> wrote in message
news:<Xns93D3F347ABA1mk13579@199.45.49.11>...

Libertarius <The_Truth_The_Whole_Truth@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote:

According to the Word, Jesus DID have brothers,

===>Of course he did, and sisters and a wife
"And the Mate of the [Christ] is Mariam Magdalene.
The [Lord loved] Mariam more than [all the other]
Disciples, [and he] kissed her often on her [mouth.
(Ph 35, 36) He embraced] the other women also, yet
they said to him: Why do thou love [her] more than
all of us?
There were three Mariams who walked with the Lord
at all times: his mother and [his] sister and the
Magdalene, she who is called his
mate. Thus his (true) Mother, Sister and Mate is
(also) called ?Mariam?.
(GOSPEL OF PHILIP)

Great source: an apocryphal, Gnostic gospel. Credibility is left to the
reader, I suppose.

Threads like these are the first step toward Christian Protestant
churches canonizing their own New Testaments.

It may be apocryphal but it seems to be true. At the time, Jesus would
not have been credible if he were not married. Also we know that when
Christians took control of the records they destroyed anything which
might not fit into their version.

However, many fragments of Gnostic Gospels such as this and the Gospel
according to St Thomas have been retrieved.

Another factor has been the schizophrenic attitude of the RC Church
towards Mary Magdalene. They identified her with the woman "taken in
sin", hence the infamous Magdalene Laundries.

It is only in recent times that they have admitted that there is no
basis for this opinion.

===>But in So. France, where the widow of Jesus is said to have
escaped according to some traditions, there is a wide-spread
cult of Mary Magdalene! -- L.

This reminds me of some interpretations of the Arthurian legends. That the
Holy Grail was really sangreal -- the blood of Christ, that is, the
bloodline of Christ. It's been awhile since I've read this stuff, but the
idea was that some saint (begins with a "b") brought pregnant Mary to
England.