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"Bill" |
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20 Apr 2006 01:52:55 PM |
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BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
The foundation of all Christian and Jewish religions is based on the Bibles.
There is NO - NADA _evidence the Bibles are the word of any Gods. They are
no more than the words of hundreds of errant religious leaders motivated to
impress and control their flock.
There are 66 claimed authors. There are NO original copies of the Bibles.
They are all ALTERED hand copies of copies of copies etc. by hundreds of
scribes over a period of thousands of years. There is no accurate objective
way to determine their authenticity or historical accuracy.
The Bibles obviously contain mostly myths, fables, legends and totally
impossible tales. NONE of the Bibles were written during Jesus' 'CLAIMED
LIFE TIME'. Time and distance was required to allow the creation of
fictional stories and the embellishment of history.
There is also the matter of the Biblical canon itself. After all, ancient
Israel and the early church knew of many more religious books than the ones
that now constitute the Bible. For example, there were 50 gospels in
circulation at the time the New Testaments were chosen by church leaders,
yet only four
made it into the New Testament. Who decided which of the books would
become part of the Christian scriptures, and again, "Why?" Who decided,
"This book belongs... this book doesn't..."? What were their reasons?
What were their motives? How do we know if ANY of them were authentic?
In addition there is evidence that the Bibles were altered by church leaders
to support their personal motives and ambitions..
The fact is, there are no clear records available which document the
church's process of determining which books were acceptable and which books
were unacceptable and why. The general consensus of opinion among scholars
is that the decision was based on whether or not the book agreed with the
prevailing theological thought and motives at the time. In other words, the
only books accepted were the ones that agreed with the opinions, desires and
motives of the church leadership at the time
This means that the fundamental religion is not based on the Bible, as they
claim so fervently... it means the Bibles were selected and embellished to
support the claims of the church leadership at the time.
It is also interesting that, even though the Biblical canon was purposely
chosen to include only books that met the church leaders opinions at the
time, there is so much inconsistency and contradictions in the Bibles. And
it is even more interesting that so many fundamentalists proclaim that there
are no contradictions in the Bible! If that were true, then why are there so
many different sects of Christianity and different Bible versions?
For example, Christianity is basically divided into three main sects: the
Roman Catholics, the Eastern Orthodox, and the Protestants. And the
Protestant branch alone is divided into numerous different sects: the
Adventists, the Amish, the Anglican Church, the Apostolic Faith, the
Assemblies of God, the Baptists, the Brethren, the Christian Church, the
Church of Christ, the Church of God, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter
Day Saints (the Mormons), the Church of the Nazarene, the Congregational
Christian Churches, the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Congregational
Church, the Friends (Quakers), the Jehovah's Witnesses, the Lutherans, the
Mennonites, the Methodists, the Pentecostal Churches, the Presbyterians, the
Salvation Army, the Unitarians, the United Church of Christ, and at least 66
other sects!
And that does not count the different sub-sects of these sects! For example,
the Baptists are further divided into: the American Baptist Convention, the
Southern Baptist Convention, the American Baptist Association, the Baptist
General Conference, the Bethel Baptist Assembly, the Christian Unity Baptist
Association, the Conservative Baptist Association of America, the Baptist
Church of Christ, the Free Will Baptists... and at least 19 other sub-sects.
And there are no "minor differences" between these sub-sects. For example,
the Southern Baptist Association was formed in 1845 in large part
because of disagreements with other Baptists concerning slavery.
The other Protestant sects are also broken up into various sub-sects. For
example, the Methodists have 23, the Mennonites 15; the Presbyterians 9; the
Mormons 3; etc.
And yet (especially for the more right-wing sects), these numerous sects and
sub-sects claim to possess the truth of the Bible in its purest form... and
each one are able to quote verses from the Bible to prove it! The Bibles are
so loaded with vague stories and unsubstantiated claims that one can find
texts to support almost ANYTHING. So much for the "harmony" of the Bible.
Anyone that reads the Bibles objectively can see that they are books of
fables, myths, legends and totally impossible tales. They are certainly not
the word of any god unless he was an absolute idiot.
Believing in the Bibles is not much better than believing in Alice in
Wonderland, Harry Potter or Aesop's Fables. At least the latter are good
literature.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
20 Apr 2006 02:11:23 PM |
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BILL
They are certainly not the word of any god unless he was an absolute
idiot.
THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LITERARY GENRE, EACH TEACH MORAL TRUTHS.
THEY ARE ALL THE PRODUCT OF AN INSPIRED HAGIOGRAPHER.
I AGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, BUT THEY ARE ALL
INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE PURPOSE IN MIND OF GOD REVEALING
HIMSELF TO MAN.
PEACE TO YOU >>>> JOHN
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
20 Apr 2006 05:00:36 PM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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BILL
They are certainly not the word of any god unless he was an absolute
idiot.
THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LITERARY GENRE, EACH TEACH MORAL TRUTHS.
Yes, that's why every Christian has their own truths. And that's why they're
frequently fighting over who's truth is the truth.
THEY ARE ALL THE PRODUCT OF AN INSPIRED HAGIOGRAPHER.
Say what? <looks up dictionary>
Oh, you mean mystical minded fanatic. Ten four.
I AGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, BUT THEY ARE ALL
INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE PURPOSE IN MIND OF GOD REVEALING
HIMSELF TO MAN.
They could also have been inspired by malevolent spirits, or malevolent
human inspirations.
Never assume that you know exactly what happened. You know what they say
about people who assume.
PEACE TO YOU >>>> JOHN
Christianity hasn't helped with peace on this earth very much.
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Andrew W.
“Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of
any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of
existence.”
~ Robert Anton Wilson
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization.”
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "" |
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20 Apr 2006 06:01:45 PM |
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Andrew W
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization."
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Am I supposed to be impressed by you quoting some nobody?
As far as I know, you made this quote up and stuck some felonious name
to it.!
"Belief is the death of intelligence.
Does this mean you don't believe you are alive?, live in the USA?, live
in a house?
can balance a checkbook? require food to live? .... or has YOUR
INTELLIGENCE DIED??
Sorry, this argument doesn't hold water for me!!
Peace .... John
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
21 Apr 2006 08:17:07 AM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Andrew W
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it
describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization."
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Am I supposed to be impressed by you quoting some nobody?
As far as I know, you made this quote up and stuck some felonious name
to it.!
"Belief is the death of intelligence.
Does this mean you don't believe you are alive?, live in the USA?, live
in a house?
can balance a checkbook? require food to live? .... or has YOUR
INTELLIGENCE DIED??
Sorry, this argument doesn't hold water for me!!
You feeling okay? Nice rant.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
21 Apr 2006 03:38:23 AM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Andrew W
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it
describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization."
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Am I supposed to be impressed by you quoting some nobody?
Well you guys seem to be very impressed with people quoting ancient middle
eastern nobodies.
We know much more about the world and universe today than they did then, so
why do you dismiss today's nobodies in favour of ancient nobodies whom no
contemporary person has ever met?
As far as I know, you made this quote up and stuck some felonious name
to it.!
Really. And how long do you think it would be till I was found out?
Try minutes.
But we all know that that sort of thing was going on for nearly 2000 years
by people whom we don't need to mention - well those of us that bother to do
objective research that is.
"Belief is the death of intelligence.
Does this mean you don't believe you are alive?, live in the USA?, live
in a house?
can balance a checkbook? require food to live? .... or has YOUR
INTELLIGENCE DIED??
Sorry, this argument doesn't hold water for me!!
The quote is in regards to beliefs in doctrines, as in religious doctrines.
Peace .... John
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Andrew W.
“Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of
any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of
existence.”
~ Robert Anton Wilson
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization.”
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
21 Apr 2006 10:41:45 AM |
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writes:
Andrew W
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization."
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Am I supposed to be impressed by you quoting some nobody?
Is anyone else supposed to be impressed by your ignorance?
As far as I know, you made this quote up and stuck some felonious name
to it.!
As far as *you* know wouldn't get most people two steps toward the nearest
door. You've gone out of your way to confirm that opinion.
"Belief is the death of intelligence.
Does this mean you don't believe you are alive?, live in the USA?, live in a
house? can balance a checkbook? require food to live? .... or has YOUR
INTELLIGENCE DIED??
Yours apparently filed for a divorce.
Sorry, this argument doesn't hold water for me!!
So, you're incontinent? No big surprise, there...
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, Iowa 3 (April 15)
NEXT GAME: Friday, April 21 vs. Peoria, 7:35 (Game 1)
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
20 Apr 2006 07:03:23 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and posting the
following on 20 Apr 2006 16:01:45 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
Andrew W
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization."
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Am I supposed to be impressed by you quoting some nobody?
Robert Anton Wilson is a well-known author.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Anton_Wilson
You should read some of his stuff. It is quite engaging. Illuminating,
even.
As far as I know, you made this quote up and stuck some felonious name
to it.!
Ever hear of Google? You could have found out who Wilson was with 5
seconds of work.
"Belief is the death of intelligence.
Does this mean you don't believe you are alive?, live in the USA?, live
in a house?
No, because these are facts. I am alive, living in the USA, and
living in an apartment - not because I believe these things, but
because they are real. I also believe that I can throw a pretty good
fastball. In reality, my pitches don't break 50mph and have a passing
acquaintance with the strike zone.
can balance a checkbook? require food to live? .... or has YOUR
INTELLIGENCE DIED??
Whether or not you can balance a checkbook is a matter of skill. I
used to date a bank teller. She had horror stories about people who
believed they could balance their accounts, but in reality sucked at
it.
Need food to live? Another fact of reality. The "beliefs" that kill
intelligence are the type of blind faith that many religious people
demand. No questioning of doctrine, no room for dissent.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "" |
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20 Apr 2006 07:42:57 PM |
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From: Douglas Berry - view profile
Date: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 5:03 pm
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
AN ATHEIST QUOTING PASCAL? Do you know what a great
Christian he was? You are obviously quoting someone you have
never read, much less believed
PENSES #110:
Those to whom God has given religious faith by moving their
hearts are very fortunate and feel quite legitimately convinced,
but to those who do not have it we can only give such faith
through reasoning, until God gives it by moving their heart
PENSES #149:
God's will has been to redeem men and open the way of
salvation to those who seek it, but men have shown themselves
so unworthy that it is right for God to refuse to some, for their
hardness of heart, what he grants to others by a mercy they
have not earned.
PENSES#160 There are only 3 sorts of people: those who have
found God and serve Him; those who are busy seeking Him and
have not found Him; those who live without either seeking or finding
Him
I have read Penses twice. These quotes only skim the surface of his
immense faith.
You either didn't read Pascal or didn't understand him!!!!!!!!!
Peace ........... John
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
21 Apr 2006 08:18:38 AM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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From: Douglas Berry - view profile
Date: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 5:03 pm
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
AN ATHEIST QUOTING PASCAL? Do you know what a great
Christian he was?
So what?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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22 Apr 2006 07:43:29 AM |
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wrote:
From: Douglas Berry - view profile
Date: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 5:03 pm
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
AN ATHEIST QUOTING PASCAL? Do you know what a great
Christian he was? You are obviously quoting someone you have
never read, much less believed
It doesn't alter the validity of the statement dipshit ........
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Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
.............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
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| User: "bob young" |
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22 Apr 2006 08:29:15 PM |
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Masked Avenger wrote:
crance@alltel.net wrote:
From: Douglas Berry - view profile
Date: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 5:03 pm
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
AN ATHEIST QUOTING PASCAL? Do you know what a great
Christian he was? You are obviously quoting someone you have
never read, much less believed
A quote, is a quote, is a quote dipshit.......
It doesn't alter the validity of the statement dipshit ........
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Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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20 Apr 2006 07:48:41 PM |
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On 20 Apr 2006 17:42:57 -0700, wrote:
From: Douglas Berry - view profile
Date: Thurs, Apr 20 2006 5:03 pm
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
AN ATHEIST QUOTING PASCAL? Do you know what a great
Christian he was? You are obviously quoting someone you have
never read, much less believed
So what if he was Christian, moron?
Unlike you, we treat people as individuals.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
20 Apr 2006 02:42:37 PM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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BILL
They are certainly not the word of any god unless he was an absolute
idiot.
THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LITERARY GENRE, EACH TEACH MORAL TRUTHS.
THEY ARE ALL THE PRODUCT OF AN INSPIRED HAGIOGRAPHER.
Yo! Stop shouting!
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "" |
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20 Apr 2006 02:49:05 PM |
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
Sorry , I was trying to distinguish my words from his.
And I'm sure you're not an Atheist...... lol
.........John
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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20 Apr 2006 02:52:14 PM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
Sorry , I was trying to distinguish my words from his.
And I'm sure you're not an Atheist...... lol
Say what? What makes you think that?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
21 Apr 2006 12:34:02 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
Sorry , I was trying to distinguish my words from his.
And I'm sure you're not an Atheist...... lol
I'm sure she is,
Rob usually posts common sense type stuff.
Bob
Say what? What makes you think that?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
21 Apr 2006 08:20:27 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
Sorry , I was trying to distinguish my words from his.
And I'm sure you're not an Atheist...... lol
I'm sure she is,
Rob usually posts common sense type stuff.
No, this jackass was making fun of the word "*****" in my sig. As if I
actually find that particular word to be insulting. What a maroon.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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| Title: Re: BIBLE VALUE AND ACCURACY |
22 Apr 2006 07:37:22 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Robibnikoff wrote:
<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
Sorry , I was trying to distinguish my words from his.
And I'm sure you're not an Atheist...... lol
I'm sure she is,
Rob usually posts common sense type stuff.
No, this jackass was making fun of the word "*****" in my sig. As if I
actually find that particular word to be insulting. What a maroon.
Over here in Oz, the use of '*****' is a Term of endearment ..... you
lucky ***** .......
There is a famous story about a Cricket match between England and
Australia held in Sydney during the early '30s ( 1930's )where the
English Captain ( Douglas Jardine ) was called a ***** by one of the
Australians. At the end of the days play he appeared at the door of the
Australian dressing room demanding to see the Australian captain. "one
of your men called me a ***** ! " he said indignantly . The Australian
captain turned to his team and said ....." OK, which one of you bastards
called this ***** a ***** ? "
He left without an apology needless to say .........
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Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
.............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
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20 Apr 2006 03:10:13 PM |
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
Say what? What makes you think that?
That was a joke. You called yourseld an Atheist, *****,
Extraordinaire.
and I said you weren't an Atheist ..... Get It????
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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20 Apr 2006 03:26:23 PM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
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Say what? What makes you think that?
That was a joke. You called yourseld an Atheist, *****,
Extraordinaire.
and I said you weren't an Atheist ..... Get It????
Har dee har har - Don't quit your day job.
I call myself a ***** based on it's original meaning - illegitimate.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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20 Apr 2006 03:28:32 PM |
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Har dee har har - Don't quit your day job.
I call myself a ***** based on it's original meaning - illegitimate.
I was only joking Robyn.
Peace to you ... John
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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20 Apr 2006 06:52:19 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and posting the
following on 20 Apr 2006 13:28:32 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
Har dee har har - Don't quit your day job.
I call myself a ***** based on it's original meaning - illegitimate.
I was only joking Robyn.
You're not very good at it.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "bob young" |
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21 Apr 2006 12:21:04 AM |
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BILL
They are certainly not the word of any god unless he was an absolute
idiot.
THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LITERARY GENRE, EACH TEACH MORAL TRUTHS.
THEY ARE ALL THE PRODUCT OF AN INSPIRED HAGIOGRAPHER.
I AGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, BUT THEY ARE ALL
INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE PURPOSE IN MIND OF GOD REVEALING
HIMSELF TO MAN.
Ha Ha
God never reveals himself to man because god is man's own creation.
How do I know that?
I simply open my eyes and see the recorded data on thousands of gods going
back in history,
all are different but they have so many similarities.
It needs just an ounce on common sense.
PEACE TO YOU >>>> JOHN
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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20 Apr 2006 03:54:58 PM |
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BILL
They are certainly not the word of any god unless he was an absolute
idiot.
THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LITERARY GENRE, EACH TEACH MORAL TRUTHS.
THEY ARE ALL THE PRODUCT OF AN INSPIRED HAGIOGRAPHER.
I AGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, BUT THEY ARE ALL
INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE PURPOSE IN MIND OF GOD REVEALING
HIMSELF TO MAN.
There is no evidence of even that. The books suggest suggest the
existence of a God, because these men felt that God existed and should
be written about, but God did not inspire THOSE books in particular, any
more than he's inspiring me to write, right now. In fact, these words
are more inspired by the Holy Spirit than some of those books were. God
exists, but he's not trying to reveal himself to man through the
writings of a few men. If he's accessible at all to anybody, he's
accessible to you. And not limited to the ways outlined by these men.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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20 Apr 2006 04:08:03 PM |
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Alric Knebel
There is no evidence of even that. The books suggest suggest the
existence of a God, because these men felt that God existed and should
be written about, but God did not inspire THOSE books in particular, any
more than he's inspiring me to write, right now. In fact, these words
are more inspired by the Holy Spirit than some of those books were. God
exists, but he's not trying to reveal himself to man through the
writings of a few men. If he's accessible at all to anybody, he's
accessible to you. And not limited to the ways outlined by these men.
--
Did HE tell you that ????
Peace .... John
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20 Apr 2006 06:02:03 PM |
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wrote:
Alric Knebel
There is no evidence of even that. The books suggest suggest the
existence of a God, because these men felt that God existed and should
be written about, but God did not inspire THOSE books in particular, any
more than he's inspiring me to write, right now. In fact, these words
are more inspired by the Holy Spirit than some of those books were. God
exists, but he's not trying to reveal himself to man through the
writings of a few men. If he's accessible at all to anybody, he's
accessible to you. And not limited to the ways outlined by these men.
Did HE tell you that ????
Peace .... John
Did HE tell you to believe these other men?
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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| User: "bob young" |
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21 Apr 2006 12:48:02 AM |
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Alric Knebel wrote:
crance@alltel.net wrote:
BILL
They are certainly not the word of any god unless he was an absolute
idiot.
THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LITERARY GENRE, EACH TEACH MORAL TRUTHS.
THEY ARE ALL THE PRODUCT OF AN INSPIRED HAGIOGRAPHER.
I AGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY, BUT THEY ARE ALL
INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE PURPOSE IN MIND OF GOD REVEALING
HIMSELF TO MAN.
There is no evidence of even that. The books suggest suggest the
existence of a God, because these men felt that God existed and should
be written about, but God did not inspire THOSE books in particular, any
more than he's inspiring me to write, right now. In fact, these words
are more inspired by the Holy Spirit than some of those books were. God
exists, but he's not trying to reveal himself to man through the
writings of a few men. If he's accessible at all to anybody, he's
accessible to you. And not limited to the ways outlined by these men.
In other words a myth perpetrated by insecure and frightened humans
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
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| User: "Ozzy" |
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20 Apr 2006 05:10:28 PM |
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wrote:
BILL
They are certainly not the word of any god unless he was an absolute
idiot.
THE BOOKS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LITERARY GENRE, EACH TEACH MORAL TRUTHS.
THEY ARE ALL THE PRODUCT OF AN INSPIRED HAGIOGRAPHER.
They were written by people who settled differences by throwing
rocks at each other.
I AGREE THAT THEY ARE NOT ALL TO BE TAKEN LITERALLY,
They are not to be taken at all, unless you like to throw rocks
at people.
BUT THEY ARE ALL
INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT WITH THE PURPOSE IN MIND OF GOD REVEALING
HIMSELF TO MAN.
"Inspired" means hearing voices -- and maybe seeing things --
that aren't there. You'd be better off taking a gentle walk with
Charles Manson. At least his blatherings are more relevant
to modern day.
PEACE TO YOU >>>> JOHN
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20 Apr 2006 02:26:35 PM |
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BILL
YOU WROTE: Believing in the Bibles is not much better than believing in
Alice in
Wonderland, Harry Potter or Aesop's Fables. At least the latter are
good
literature.
I'm sure I have READ you under the table in my lifetime and I have
never read any better Literature
than the Book of Ecclesiastes. I'm attaching a link to it. Let me know
what you think!
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%201%20;&version=49;
Peace ...... John
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| User: "Andrew W" |
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20 Apr 2006 05:03:56 PM |
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<crance@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:1145561195.603775.176970@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
BILL
YOU WROTE: Believing in the Bibles is not much better than believing in
Alice in
Wonderland, Harry Potter or Aesop's Fables. At least the latter are
good
literature.
I'm sure I have READ you under the table in my lifetime and I have
never read any better Literature
than the Book of Ecclesiastes. I'm attaching a link to it. Let me know
what you think!
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes%201%20;&version=49;
No wars have ever been fought over Alice in Wonderland etc.
They are well ahead so far.
Peace ...... John
We live in hope (for peace - through an end to religion).
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Andrew W.
“Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of
any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of
existence.”
~ Robert Anton Wilson
"The Bible tells us to be like God, and then on page after page it describes
God as a mass murderer. This may be the single most important key to the
political behaviour of Western Civilization.”
~ Robert Anton Wilson
Religion Exposed!
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ajwerner
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