Religions > Bible > Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST?
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17 Nov 2004 10:31:15 AM |
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Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? |
Was Jesus a communist?
Imagine no possessions,
I wonder if you can.
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man.
http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.1999.02/PT.1999.02.2.html
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? |
17 Nov 2004 11:01:53 AM |
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On 17 Nov 2004 08:31:15 -0800 in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, Norwood Holden
(norwood_holden@hotmail.com (Norwood Holden)) said, directing the
reply to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
Was Jesus a communist?
Some aspects of what we know of his teaching suggest there might be
certain things in common, as I believe John Wesley thought, and
various others continue to think.
That said, Christians and Communists have a tremendous amount in
common if only in the sense of ideology, which is to say that while
the "facts" of arguments made by Christians and Communists differ, the
modes of argument are identical.
But the *really* interesting question for Christians: do you think
you'll own things in Heaven?
Imagine no possessions,
I wonder if you can.
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man.
I'd have been rather more impressed if it'd been written by someone
who *used* to be a multi-millionaire. But then as Iain M Banks
occasionally observes, money is a form of resource rationing and only
used by societies poor enough to require rationing.
http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.1999.02/PT.1999.02.2.html
Hummm.....
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| User: "•R.L.Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? |
17 Nov 2004 02:31:50 PM |
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In article <9e48f660.0411170831.7b8023d4@posting.google.com>,
norwood_holden@hotmail.com (Norwood Holden) wrote:
Was Jesus a communist?
Imagine no possessions,
I wonder if you can.
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man.
• Bull feces. Jesus was the first Neo-con and G. W. is one of his disciples.
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| User: "Bit" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? |
17 Nov 2004 02:38:38 PM |
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".R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-1711041231490001@192.168.1.101...
| In article <9e48f660.0411170831.7b8023d4@posting.google.com>,
| (Norwood Holden) wrote:
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| >Was Jesus a communist?
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| >Imagine no possessions,
| >I wonder if you can.
| >No need for greed or hunger,
| >A brotherhood of man.
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| . Bull feces. Jesus was the first Neo-con and G. W. is one of his
disciples.
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No, no. Jesus was put to death by the Roman neo-Cons (who were goaded on by
the local Jewish conservative reich-wing leaders). Get your history
straight, for crying out loud.
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| User: "•R.L.Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? |
17 Nov 2004 05:28:29 PM |
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In article <1100723919.MoXRVdnyBA+2xOXYiLATvw@teranews>, "Bit"
<eight.bits@make.a.byte> wrote:
".R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-1711041231490001@192.168.1.101...
| In article <9e48f660.0411170831.7b8023d4@posting.google.com>,
| (Norwood Holden) wrote:
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| >Was Jesus a communist?
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| >Imagine no possessions,
| >I wonder if you can.
| >No need for greed or hunger,
| >A brotherhood of man.
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| . Bull feces. Jesus was the first Neo-con and G. W. is one of his
disciples.
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No, no. Jesus was put to death by the Roman neo-Cons (who were goaded on by
the local Jewish conservative reich-wing leaders). Get your history
straight, for crying out loud.
*** chortle
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? Communistking? |
17 Nov 2004 11:27:46 AM |
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Norwood Holden wrote:
Was Jesus a communist?
Imagine no possessions,
I wonder if you can.
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man.
http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.1999.02/PT.1999.02.2.html
===>A Communist KING? ;-)
SEE: Luke 22:3 NIV
So Pilate asked Jesus,
"Are you the king of the Jews?"
"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. -- L.
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| User: "Bit" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? Communist king? |
17 Nov 2004 02:35:33 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:419B8A12.436DE3F4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
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| Norwood Holden wrote:
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| > Was Jesus a communist?
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| > Imagine no possessions,
| > I wonder if you can.
| > No need for greed or hunger,
| > A brotherhood of man.
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| > http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.1999.02/PT.1999.02.2.html
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| ===>A Communist KING? ;-)
| SEE: Luke 22:3 NIV
| So Pilate asked Jesus,
| "Are you the king of the Jews?"
| "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. -- L.
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The problem with the U.S.S.R. was not so much that it was a small 'c'
communist society, but, rather, big 'C' Communism is 'Godless'. The people
turned to alcohol and tobbacco in droves and wouldn't let up. On a typical
U.S.S.R. Monday morning 40 % (forty) were hung-over. Not good. The society,
burdened with alcoholism, tobbacco addiction and the expence of its
militarism had a small collapse and the U.S.S.R. was dissolved.
The idea of a Christian 'communist' society is not untenable and quite
possible and might even be successful ..
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? Communistking? |
17 Nov 2004 05:12:58 PM |
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Bit wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:419B8A12.436DE3F4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
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| Norwood Holden wrote:
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| > Was Jesus a communist?
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| > Imagine no possessions,
| > I wonder if you can.
| > No need for greed or hunger,
| > A brotherhood of man.
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| > http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.1999.02/PT.1999.02.2.html
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| ===>A Communist KING? ;-)
| SEE: Luke 22:3 NIV
| So Pilate asked Jesus,
| "Are you the king of the Jews?"
| "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. -- L.
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The problem with the U.S.S.R. was not so much that it was a small 'c'
communist society, but, rather, big 'C' Communism is 'Godless'. The people
turned to alcohol and tobbacco in droves and wouldn't let up. On a typical
U.S.S.R. Monday morning 40 % (forty) were hung-over. Not good. The society,
burdened with alcoholism, tobbacco addiction and the expence of its
militarism had a small collapse and the U.S.S.R. was dissolved.
The idea of a Christian 'communist' society is not untenable and quite
possible and might even be successful ..
===>Only if it, like the Soviets, exterminated millions of those of us
who prefer a democratic republic to a theocratic "kingdom".
Of course the parable clearly shows such a case:
"But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them,
bring them here and slay them in my presence." (Luke 19:27)
But you did not get my point: is communism compatible with
having a king? -- L.
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| User: "Bit" |
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| Title: Re: Brotherhood of man ... OR ... Was Jesus a COMMUNIST? Communist king? |
18 Nov 2004 08:12:18 PM |
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Libertarius wrote:
| Bit wrote:
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|| "Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
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|||| Was Jesus a communist?
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|||| Imagine no possessions,
|||| I wonder if you can.
|||| No need for greed or hunger,
|||| A brotherhood of man.
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|||| http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.1999.02/PT.1999.02.2.html
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||| ===>A Communist KING? ;-)
||| SEE: Luke 22:3 NIV
||| So Pilate asked Jesus,
||| "Are you the king of the Jews?"
||| "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. -- L.
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|| The problem with the U.S.S.R. was not so much that it was a small 'c'
|| communist society, but, rather, big 'C' Communism is 'Godless'. The
|| people turned to alcohol and tobbacco in droves and wouldn't let up. On
|| a typical U.S.S.R. Monday morning 40 % (forty) were hung-over. Not good.
|| The society, burdened with alcoholism, tobbacco addiction and the
|| expence of its militarism had a small collapse and the U.S.S.R. was
|| dissolved.
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|| The idea of a Christian 'communist' society is not untenable and quite
|| possible and might even be successful ..
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| ===>Only if it, like the Soviets, exterminated millions of those of us
| who prefer a democratic republic to a theocratic "kingdom".
| Of course the parable clearly shows such a case:
| "But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them,
| bring them here and slay them in my presence." (Luke 19:27)
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| But you did not get my point: is communism compatible with
| having a king? -- L.
Castro has lasted quite some time, despite - or perhaps because of - the
economic pressures from the U.S.
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