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User: "Bible John"
Date: 31 Oct 2005 06:04:27 PM
Object: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message)
Alright everyone on the Internet I want you to hold onto your bibles and
repeat the following like you mean it.
This is my Bible
I am what it says I am
I have what it says I have
I can do what it says I can do
Today I will be taught the word of God
I boldly confess
That my mind is alert
My heart is receptive
and that I will never be the same.
In Jesus name
Amen

Topical Bible Message-Building a teachable spirit
Prov. 15:32 He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever
heeds correction gains understanding.
Prov. 15:33 The fear of the LORD teaches a man wisdom, and humility
comes before honor.
Friends having a teachable spirit is something that most lack, and I
will be the first to admit and put me into the list of "most people." A
good way to find out if you have a problem in this area is to ask
yourself the following question.
Question
* How do I respond to correction?
People that hate taking advice are the kind of people Pro 15:32 is
speaking about. They get bent out of shape when they are corrected, or
believe that they are being attacked, you name it.
Some criteria for those that are insecure in their identities and often
not willing to take advice from others
* They never feel secure about their identity, and are constantly
comparing themselves to others
* When someone corrects them they get defensive
* They wont take advice from people not like themselves
* They are the kind of people are constantly trying to prove
something
* They may tend to lie to make themselves look good in front of
others
* They are ashamed to let others know who they really are
* When they are corrected, they typically feel rejected
Looking at the list, there is no question that I meet some of the
criteria. This is something I am not ashamed to admit. I know Iım not
perfect, but I know that my heart is right where God wants it to be.
Besides me being insecure in some areas, itıs important to realize that
just because I am insecure in some areas, does not mean that I overall
lack a teachable spirit. It may mean that in certain areas I may lack
such a spirit, but I know that in other areas I have a very teachable
spirit.
Criteria for Secure people
* Secure people can be corrected, without feeling rejected
* They are teachable and often willing to take advice
* They listen to constructive criticism
* They listen to their critics (at least the ones that do not attack
them
At Simpson in a ministry course called Teaching Ministry of the Church
I was required to read some Church Education books, and one of the
authors Howard Henricks wrote a book called Teaching to Change Lives
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590521382/qid=1120024927/
sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/102-1180370-7764911?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)
My review of the book Teaching to Change Lives on amazon.com
3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:
Well done book for Church Education staff, May 14, 2005
Reviewer: John Wolf "2 Tim 4:2"
This book is an excellent resource for Church Education staff. This book
covers some basic principles (or laws as he calls them) regarding
teaching in the church environment. The law of readiness is my personal
favorite of the bunch, as it basically states that both student and
teacher must be prepared for the teaching environment. This is so true
and often followed in higher education, but perhaps not very well
followed in church education. The sad news is that typically the teacher
is blamed for the studentıs poor scholarship or lack of learning. But
according to Henricks a student must study, must come to class on time,
and must be interested in the material to proactively learn. There is
much more good stuff in this book. Grab it its a great read!
In the read Dr. Henricks talks about the Law of Readiness, which states
that a teacher is both a teacher and learner. This is a shock for some
people who think that because they have their degrees, a high profile
job, or such they no longer need to learn, because they know it all! No
we need to stay teachable, and put off our pride no matter what. We need
to be critical thinkers; we need to not just blow off everyone that
disagrees with us! I will say it again, that I have some work in this
area.

Prov. 15:12 A mocker resents correction; he will not consult the wise.
One thing I learned on my own is that itıs wise to hang out with wise
people who are most often older than me. In doing so I have become ways
as Proverbs also states.
Prov. 13:20 He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of
fools suffers harm.
Sadly I know so many young people that resent correction, because they
will not consult people older than themselves. They do not want adult
mentors; they want to only hang with their own peers. At Simpson there
were many people like this and many of them lacked a teachable spirit as
a result. However the Simpson college faculty and staff made many
opportunities for students to find staff mentors, teachers, and other
wise people. I chose Dr. Barth Campbell as my mentor and his webpage is
here.
http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/bcampbell/
Dr. Campbell was my mentor for 3 years, and although my main in person
mentor, I had and still have many authors, preachers, teachers and other
ministers as mentors. Pastor Joel Osteen is probably the most well known
of my public mentors, and of which this message was inspired from.
Sadly Dr. Campbell was taken from me and called home in early 2005. But
not before the Lord provided Pastor Al about a year ago to fulfill the
mentor role, because the Lord knew that Dr. Campbell would go home in
April of 2005. Before Dr. Campbell went home, he did take a look at my
bible page, and was impressed, but gave me some ways to improve the
site. His ideas will be implemented soon Lord Willing.
To conclude I am aware that some may believe that I treat the cults like
second class. If this is true I apologize. I am aware that the Christian
newsgroups are plagued with the cults sadly, but I do know that in some
areas there are things I can learn from the cults. For example, I know
one member of the oneness theology cult whom I often interact with on
Usenet. Although unsaved heıs got a great heart, and even though we
disagree on the "trinity" which is an essential area in Christianity, we
have in other ways learned to agree to disagree. I strive to preach and
teach the word with conviction and to expose false doctrine, but I also
strive to do it with gentleness and respect (1 Pet 3:15).
So friends we need to be humble, and we will be exalted. We cannot be
proud, and arrogant, because in so many ways these kinds of people are
not teachable. We need to listen more to people and talk less is a good
rule of thumb to take into consideration on building a teachable spirit.
Remember that secure people are teachable and insecure are not. Also
remember that honor rarely comes before humility.
May God bless you!

John Wolf
BA Church Education Ministries, Simpson University 2005
AS Business Computer technology specialist, Canada College 2000
--
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
John 14:6 Jesus answered, ³I am the way and
the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.
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User: "rogue"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 01:42:19 PM
Bible John wrote:
Bible John wrote:

Alright everyone on the Internet I want you to hold onto your bibles and
repeat the following like you mean it.
This is my Bible

JERRY
This is my bible

BJ
I am what it says I am

JERRY
The bible fails to be historically accurate. For example, slavery as
depicted in the bible didn't exist in Egypt at the time of the Exodus
Story. Another example is that archaeology shows that when Joshua
arrived at Jericho, the walls were already down.

BJ
I have what it says I have

JERRY
The bible fails to be consistent in it's storytelling. For example the
four gospels vary wildly on the tale of the Resurrection morning. They
are not "complementary accounts" as claimed by Christians, but
different stories that cannot be reconciled into one whole.

BJ
I can do what it says I can do

JERRY
The bible fails on it's claims. For example, Jesus tells his followers
that if they have but the faith of a mustard seed, their prayer can
move mountains. BJ has continued to follow the actions and examples of
the false prophet Jason Gastrich in his prayer and at this time has not
been successful in changing a single atheist/skeptic/cultist in their
beliefs through his prayer.

BJ
Today I will be taught the word of God

JERRY
Today I will continue to study the failures of the bible, so that I can
instruct others in it's failures and in the lies and false teachings of
the fundamentalist nutcases who profess that the bible is the word of
any deity.

BJ
I boldly confess
That my mind is alert
My heart is receptive
and that I will never be the same.

JERRY
I boldly confess that my mind is clear, my heart open and aware and
that I will enjoy what lies in this world rather than falsely holding
out for the afterlife claimed by Christians, since they also lie about
the bible they hold.

BJ
In Jesus name
Amen

JERRY
In Santa's name
Amen. Now, where is that Easter Bunny and the orgy room?
Thanks, John, doing affirmations always makes me feel much better! ;-)
.

User: "Carl Walther"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 31 Oct 2005 07:35:02 PM
Lame lame lame... stop with the Osteen worship.
.
User: "Bible John"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 12:41:35 AM
In article <1130808902.775031.60580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Carl Walther" <no_no_no_splam@hotmail.com> wrote:

Lame lame lame... stop with the Osteen worship.

He gives me ideas that i borrow from. But I see that perhaps even you
lack a teachable spirit.
--
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible/
John 14:6 Jesus answered, ³I am the way and
the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father
except through me.
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User: "Carl Walther"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 04:44:28 PM
Bible John wrote:

In article <1130808902.775031.60580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Carl Walther" <no_no_no_splam@hotmail.com> wrote:

Lame lame lame... stop with the Osteen worship.


He gives me ideas that i borrow from. But I see that perhaps even you
lack a teachable spirit.

--

I lack Osteen as my personal god... the Spirit I have is the Holy
Spirit, not some psycho-babble from a phony like Osteen.
--Carl
.
User: "Tom McDonald"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 11:04:56 PM
Carl Walther wrote:

Bible John wrote:

In article <1130808902.775031.60580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Carl Walther" <no_no_no_splam@hotmail.com> wrote:


Lame lame lame... stop with the Osteen worship.


He gives me ideas that i borrow from. But I see that perhaps even you
lack a teachable spirit.

--




I lack Osteen as my personal god... the Spirit I have is the Holy
Spirit, not some psycho-babble from a phony like Osteen.

I just visited the Osteen ministry site. Interesting idolization
of the man Joel Osteen. Disgusting focus on money and Christian
exceptionalism. A search of his web site using the search term
'free' found exactly 5 articles; none of which was regarding the
provision of a single tract or bible for free. Lots of stuff for
sale, though. Lots and lots of things for sale.
.
User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 10:01:55 PM
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:04:56 -0800, Tom McDonald
<tmcdonald2672@nohormelcharter.net> wrote:

Carl Walther wrote:

Bible John wrote:

In article <1130808902.775031.60580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Carl Walther" <no_no_no_splam@hotmail.com> wrote:


Lame lame lame... stop with the Osteen worship.


He gives me ideas that i borrow from. But I see that perhaps even you
lack a teachable spirit.

--




I lack Osteen as my personal god... the Spirit I have is the Holy
Spirit, not some psycho-babble from a phony like Osteen.


I just visited the Osteen ministry site. Interesting idolization
of the man Joel Osteen. Disgusting focus on money and Christian
exceptionalism. A search of his web site using the search term
'free' found exactly 5 articles; none of which was regarding the
provision of a single tract or bible for free. Lots of stuff for
sale, though. Lots and lots of things for sale.

Hey Tom!
God bless!
Yep, "covet" is they are trained to do and "covet" is what they do.
2 Timothy 4:3 KJV
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but
after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having
itching ears;
2 Timothy 4:4 KJV
And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be
turned unto fables.
2 Peter 2:1 KJV
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there
shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable
heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon
themselves swift destruction.
2 Peter 2:2 KJV
And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way
of truth shall be evil spoken of.
2 Peter 2:3 KJV
And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make
merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not,
and their damnation slumbereth not.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
.




User: "john w"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 12:19:44 AM
x-no-archive: yes
On 31 Oct 2005 17:35:02 -0800, "Carl Walther"
<no_no_no_splam@hotmail.com> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
can be used anywhere else without expressed written permission of the
author.

Lame lame lame... stop with the Osteen worship.

[[ snap of fingers ]]
Darn! Wish I'd said that!
:-)
God bless!
john w
.


User: "Bible Bob"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 31 Oct 2005 06:56:48 PM
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:04:27 -0800, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:

Alright everyone on the Internet I want you to hold onto your bibles and
repeat the following like you mean it.

This is my Bible
I am what it says I am
I have what it says I have
I can do what it says I can do
Today I will be taught the word of God
I boldly confess
That my mind is alert
My heart is receptive
and that I will never be the same.
In Jesus name
Amen


Topical Bible Message-Building a teachable spirit

Prov. 15:32 He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever
heeds correction gains understanding.

Prov. 15:33 The fear of the LORD teaches a man wisdom, and humility
comes before honor.

Friends having a teachable spirit is something that most lack, and I
will be the first to admit and put me into the list of "most people." A
good way to find out if you have a problem in this area is to ask
yourself the following question.

Question

* How do I respond to correction?

People that hate taking advice are the kind of people Pro 15:32 is
speaking about. They get bent out of shape when they are corrected, or
believe that they are being attacked, you name it.

Some criteria for those that are insecure in their identities and often
not willing to take advice from others

* They never feel secure about their identity, and are constantly
comparing themselves to others
* When someone corrects them they get defensive
* They wont take advice from people not like themselves
* They are the kind of people are constantly trying to prove
something
* They may tend to lie to make themselves look good in front of
others
* They are ashamed to let others know who they really are
* When they are corrected, they typically feel rejected

Looking at the list, there is no question that I meet some of the
criteria. This is something I am not ashamed to admit. I know Iım not
perfect, but I know that my heart is right where God wants it to be.
Besides me being insecure in some areas, itıs important to realize that
just because I am insecure in some areas, does not mean that I overall
lack a teachable spirit. It may mean that in certain areas I may lack
such a spirit, but I know that in other areas I have a very teachable
spirit.

Criteria for Secure people

* Secure people can be corrected, without feeling rejected
* They are teachable and often willing to take advice
* They listen to constructive criticism
* They listen to their critics (at least the ones that do not attack
them

At Simpson in a ministry course called Teaching Ministry of the Church
I was required to read some Church Education books, and one of the
authors Howard Henricks wrote a book called Teaching to Change Lives
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590521382/qid=1120024927/
sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/102-1180370-7764911?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

My review of the book Teaching to Change Lives on amazon.com

3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:

Well done book for Church Education staff, May 14, 2005

Reviewer: John Wolf "2 Tim 4:2"

This book is an excellent resource for Church Education staff. This book
covers some basic principles (or laws as he calls them) regarding
teaching in the church environment. The law of readiness is my personal
favorite of the bunch, as it basically states that both student and
teacher must be prepared for the teaching environment. This is so true
and often followed in higher education, but perhaps not very well
followed in church education. The sad news is that typically the teacher
is blamed for the studentıs poor scholarship or lack of learning. But
according to Henricks a student must study, must come to class on time,
and must be interested in the material to proactively learn. There is
much more good stuff in this book. Grab it its a great read!

In the read Dr. Henricks talks about the Law of Readiness, which states
that a teacher is both a teacher and learner. This is a shock for some
people who think that because they have their degrees, a high profile
job, or such they no longer need to learn, because they know it all! No
we need to stay teachable, and put off our pride no matter what. We need
to be critical thinkers; we need to not just blow off everyone that
disagrees with us! I will say it again, that I have some work in this
area.



Prov. 15:12 A mocker resents correction; he will not consult the wise.

One thing I learned on my own is that itıs wise to hang out with wise
people who are most often older than me. In doing so I have become ways
as Proverbs also states.

Prov. 13:20 He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of
fools suffers harm.

Sadly I know so many young people that resent correction, because they
will not consult people older than themselves. They do not want adult
mentors; they want to only hang with their own peers. At Simpson there
were many people like this and many of them lacked a teachable spirit as
a result. However the Simpson college faculty and staff made many
opportunities for students to find staff mentors, teachers, and other
wise people. I chose Dr. Barth Campbell as my mentor and his webpage is
here.

http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/bcampbell/

Dr. Campbell was my mentor for 3 years, and although my main in person
mentor, I had and still have many authors, preachers, teachers and other
ministers as mentors. Pastor Joel Osteen is probably the most well known
of my public mentors, and of which this message was inspired from.

Sadly Dr. Campbell was taken from me and called home in early 2005. But
not before the Lord provided Pastor Al about a year ago to fulfill the
mentor role, because the Lord knew that Dr. Campbell would go home in
April of 2005. Before Dr. Campbell went home, he did take a look at my
bible page, and was impressed, but gave me some ways to improve the
site. His ideas will be implemented soon Lord Willing.

To conclude I am aware that some may believe that I treat the cults like
second class. If this is true I apologize. I am aware that the Christian
newsgroups are plagued with the cults sadly, but I do know that in some
areas there are things I can learn from the cults. For example, I know
one member of the oneness theology cult whom I often interact with on
Usenet. Although unsaved heıs got a great heart, and even though we
disagree on the "trinity" which is an essential area in Christianity, we
have in other ways learned to agree to disagree. I strive to preach and
teach the word with conviction and to expose false doctrine, but I also
strive to do it with gentleness and respect (1 Pet 3:15).

So friends we need to be humble, and we will be exalted. We cannot be
proud, and arrogant, because in so many ways these kinds of people are
not teachable. We need to listen more to people and talk less is a good
rule of thumb to take into consideration on building a teachable spirit.
Remember that secure people are teachable and insecure are not. Also
remember that honor rarely comes before humility.

May God bless you!



John Wolf

BA Church Education Ministries, Simpson University 2005

AS Business Computer technology specialist, Canada College 2000

John,
Will you stop confessing your sins in public and confess them to God
as required by 1 John 1:9.
1 John 1:8-10 KJV
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth
is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our]
sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his
word is not in us.
Why do you make people (especially unbelievers) your god's?
James 5:16 KJV
16 Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another,
that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man
availeth much.
The verse does not say to confess your sins on Usenet. The word
"faults" is not translated from "harmatia" (sin) but from "parapatoma"
(From G3895; a side slip (lapse or deviation), that is,
(unintentional) error or (wilful) transgression: - fall, fault,
offence, sin, trespass.)
The word "another" is from "allelon;" another of the same kind. You
confess faults to other believers one on one face to face; not to
unbelievers and the whole world in general on Usenet.
......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
.

User: "john w"

Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 31 Oct 2005 07:30:23 PM
x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:04:27 -0800, Bible John
<john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote:
copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
can be used anywhere else without expressed written permission of the
author.

Alright everyone on the Internet I want you to hold onto your bibles and
repeat the following like you mean it.

This is my Bible
I am what it says I am
I have what it says I have
I can do what it says I can do
Today I will be taught the word of God
I boldly confess
That my mind is alert
My heart is receptive
and that I will never be the same.
In Jesus name
Amen


Topical Bible Message-Building a teachable spirit

Prov. 15:32 He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever
heeds correction gains understanding.

Yet when I try to correct your grammar, you could not care less, and
you say so.
john w


Prov. 15:33 The fear of the LORD teaches a man wisdom, and humility
comes before honor.

Friends having a teachable spirit is something that most lack, and I
will be the first to admit and put me into the list of "most people." A
good way to find out if you have a problem in this area is to ask
yourself the following question.

Question

* How do I respond to correction?

People that hate taking advice are the kind of people Pro 15:32 is
speaking about. They get bent out of shape when they are corrected, or
believe that they are being attacked, you name it.

Some criteria for those that are insecure in their identities and often
not willing to take advice from others

* They never feel secure about their identity, and are constantly
comparing themselves to others
* When someone corrects them they get defensive
* They wont take advice from people not like themselves
* They are the kind of people are constantly trying to prove
something
* They may tend to lie to make themselves look good in front of
others
* They are ashamed to let others know who they really are
* When they are corrected, they typically feel rejected

Looking at the list, there is no question that I meet some of the
criteria. This is something I am not ashamed to admit. I know Iım not
perfect, but I know that my heart is right where God wants it to be.
Besides me being insecure in some areas, itıs important to realize that
just because I am insecure in some areas, does not mean that I overall
lack a teachable spirit. It may mean that in certain areas I may lack
such a spirit, but I know that in other areas I have a very teachable
spirit.

Criteria for Secure people

* Secure people can be corrected, without feeling rejected
* They are teachable and often willing to take advice
* They listen to constructive criticism
* They listen to their critics (at least the ones that do not attack
them

At Simpson in a ministry course called Teaching Ministry of the Church
I was required to read some Church Education books, and one of the
authors Howard Henricks wrote a book called Teaching to Change Lives
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590521382/qid=1120024927/
sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/102-1180370-7764911?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

My review of the book Teaching to Change Lives on amazon.com

3 of 3 people found the following review helpful:

Well done book for Church Education staff, May 14, 2005

Reviewer: John Wolf "2 Tim 4:2"

This book is an excellent resource for Church Education staff. This book
covers some basic principles (or laws as he calls them) regarding
teaching in the church environment. The law of readiness is my personal
favorite of the bunch, as it basically states that both student and
teacher must be prepared for the teaching environment. This is so true
and often followed in higher education, but perhaps not very well
followed in church education. The sad news is that typically the teacher
is blamed for the studentıs poor scholarship or lack of learning. But
according to Henricks a student must study, must come to class on time,
and must be interested in the material to proactively learn. There is
much more good stuff in this book. Grab it its a great read!

In the read Dr. Henricks talks about the Law of Readiness, which states
that a teacher is both a teacher and learner. This is a shock for some
people who think that because they have their degrees, a high profile
job, or such they no longer need to learn, because they know it all! No
we need to stay teachable, and put off our pride no matter what. We need
to be critical thinkers; we need to not just blow off everyone that
disagrees with us! I will say it again, that I have some work in this
area.



Prov. 15:12 A mocker resents correction; he will not consult the wise.

One thing I learned on my own is that itıs wise to hang out with wise
people who are most often older than me. In doing so I have become ways
as Proverbs also states.

Prov. 13:20 He who walks with the wise grows wise, but a companion of
fools suffers harm.

Sadly I know so many young people that resent correction, because they
will not consult people older than themselves. They do not want adult
mentors; they want to only hang with their own peers. At Simpson there
were many people like this and many of them lacked a teachable spirit as
a result. However the Simpson college faculty and staff made many
opportunities for students to find staff mentors, teachers, and other
wise people. I chose Dr. Barth Campbell as my mentor and his webpage is
here.

http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/bcampbell/

Dr. Campbell was my mentor for 3 years, and although my main in person
mentor, I had and still have many authors, preachers, teachers and other
ministers as mentors. Pastor Joel Osteen is probably the most well known
of my public mentors, and of which this message was inspired from.

Sadly Dr. Campbell was taken from me and called home in early 2005. But
not before the Lord provided Pastor Al about a year ago to fulfill the
mentor role, because the Lord knew that Dr. Campbell would go home in
April of 2005. Before Dr. Campbell went home, he did take a look at my
bible page, and was impressed, but gave me some ways to improve the
site. His ideas will be implemented soon Lord Willing.

To conclude I am aware that some may believe that I treat the cults like
second class. If this is true I apologize. I am aware that the Christian
newsgroups are plagued with the cults sadly, but I do know that in some
areas there are things I can learn from the cults. For example, I know
one member of the oneness theology cult whom I often interact with on
Usenet. Although unsaved heıs got a great heart, and even though we
disagree on the "trinity" which is an essential area in Christianity, we
have in other ways learned to agree to disagree. I strive to preach and
teach the word with conviction and to expose false doctrine, but I also
strive to do it with gentleness and respect (1 Pet 3:15).

So friends we need to be humble, and we will be exalted. We cannot be
proud, and arrogant, because in so many ways these kinds of people are
not teachable. We need to listen more to people and talk less is a good
rule of thumb to take into consideration on building a teachable spirit.
Remember that secure people are teachable and insecure are not. Also
remember that honor rarely comes before humility.

May God bless you!



John Wolf

BA Church Education Ministries, Simpson University 2005

AS Business Computer technology specialist, Canada College 2000

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Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 12:41:03 AM
In article <88hdm1ljpqtuoon2pelttceaeak8ndh4v1@4ax.com>,
john w <jw<no>@yow.how> wrote:

Prov. 15:32 He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever
heeds correction gains understanding.


Yet when I try to correct your grammar, you could not care less, and
you say so.

john w

Yes but you continue to attack my grammar when I told you that in my
NONFORMAL posts I could care less. However in my FORMAL bible messages
I am more concerned with but only if you have authority which you sadly
lack. That english paper you claim was full of errors was actually
proofread my professors who know far far far more about grammar than you
claim.
I do not appreciate your advice especially when you have been told a
hundred times to stop!
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Title: Re: Building a teachable Spirit (Topical Bible Message) 01 Nov 2005 12:57:31 AM
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copyright 2005 John Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this
can be used anywhere else without expressed written permission of the
author.

In article <88hdm1ljpqtuoon2pelttceaeak8ndh4v1@4ax.com>,
john w <jw<no>@yow.how> wrote:

Prov. 15:32 He who ignores discipline despises himself, but whoever
heeds correction gains understanding.


Yet when I try to correct your grammar, you could not care less, and
you say so.

john w


Yes but you continue to attack my grammar when I told you that in my
NONFORMAL posts I could care less.

I didn't just correct an "informal" post. I corrected one of your
formal papers.
However in my FORMAL bible messages

I am more concerned with but only if you have authority which you sadly
lack.

Authority over what? Style? Grammar? Punctuation? I have a DEGREE in
that stuff!
That English paper you claim was full of errors
it was. What did you think all the corrections were about.
You are one proud, arrogant, IGNORANT person.
And if you hadn't wanted me to correct it, why did you ask?
You LIED to me, BJ!
Your request was not sincere.
was actually

proofread my professors who know far far far more about grammar than you
claim.

I didn't see ANY indication that any of them grade you for grammar,
BJ, which you-- yourself have recently admitted.
And you have balls, boy, to ASK me to comment, and then you IGNORED my
comments.
You OBVIOUSLY didn't think I'd come up with any problems with your
"perfect paper."


I do not appreciate your advice especially

And I don't apprecite your DELIBERATELY, ARROGANTLY BUTCHERING
grammar. AND SPELLING! SEVERAL of us have told you that you saying
"of coarse" is misspelling. Yet you CONTINUE VERY ARROGANTLY, VERY
DEFIANTLY to do it!
As I pointed out to you, even the Bible says that you are incorrect.
And when you IGNORE the Bible,
"Give your BEST to the master."
You are apostate!
when you have been told a

hundred times to stop!

I have told YOU a "hundred times" to stop correcting me doctrinally.
You haven't stopped.
hypocrite!
john w
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