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"pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com Johnny Asia" |
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05 Nov 2003 04:01:49 AM |
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Bush Carries on Reagan's Looney Doomsday Legacy |
Prior to announcing his candidacy for the Presidency, George W. Bush
said to TV evangelist James Robison: 'I feel like God wants me to run
for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to
need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me
or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
Bush says God chose him to lead his nation:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1075950,00.html
In a book by the late Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics: Militant
Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War, published in 1986, Ms. Halsell
quotes TV evangelist James Robison:
"'There'll be no peace until Jesus comes. Any preaching of peace prior
to this return is heresy; it's against the word of God; it's
Anti-Christ,' says TV evangelist Jim Robison, who was invited by
President Reagan to deliver the opening prayer at the 1984 Republican
National Convention."
Cowboys and Idiots: The Reagan Administration
Ronnies' "Brave freedom fighters" are now Bushs'
"evildoers" who "hate our freedoms".
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/reagan.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
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"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
The First Church of Common Sense
Want to know what's REALLY going on in Iraq?
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
Cowboys and Idiots: The Reagan Administration
Ronnies' "Brave freedom fighters" are now Bushs'
"evildoers" who "hate our freedoms".
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/reagan.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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| Title: Re: Bush Carries on Reagan's Looney Doomsday Legacy |
05 Nov 2003 10:24:57 AM |
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But CBS woke up and nixedthe hatchet job on Reagan! Glory be!
jt
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| User: "John W" |
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05 Nov 2003 12:47:08 PM |
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:01:49 GMT, pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com
(Johnny Asia) wrote:
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Prior to announcing his candidacy for the Presidency, George W. Bush
said to TV evangelist James Robison: 'I feel like God wants me to run
for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to
need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me
or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
Bush says God chose him to lead his nation:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1075950,00.html
In a book by the late Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics: Militant
Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War, published in 1986, Ms. Halsell
quotes TV evangelist James Robison:
"'There'll be no peace until Jesus comes. Any preaching of peace prior
to this return is heresy; it's against the word of God; it's
Anti-Christ,' says TV evangelist Jim Robison, who was invited by
President Reagan to deliver the opening prayer at the 1984 Republican
National Convention."
Are you saying that presidents and other politicians aren't allowed to
have religious beliefs? Or they aren't allowed to express them?
Wake up! This is America. We have two freedoms you perhaps have not
heard of. Freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Those rights do
not end with the Oath Of Office.
John W
Cowboys and Idiots: The Reagan Administration
Ronnies' "Brave freedom fighters" are now Bushs'
"evildoers" who "hate our freedoms".
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/reagan.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
+
"The power of accurate observation is called cynicism
by those who have not got it." - G. B. Shaw
The First Church of Common Sense
Want to know what's REALLY going on in Iraq?
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/wakeup.html
Cowboys and Idiots: The Reagan Administration
Ronnies' "Brave freedom fighters" are now Bushs'
"evildoers" who "hate our freedoms".
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/reagan.html
The Rise and Fall of the Holy Roller Empire
The God-Awful Truth about Christian Zionism
http://www.angelfire.com/co/COMMONSENSE/armageddon.html
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| User: "Craig Wilson" |
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05 Nov 2003 01:19:13 PM |
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On 5 Nov 2003 18:47:08 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:01:49 GMT, pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com
(Johnny Asia) wrote:
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Prior to announcing his candidacy for the Presidency, George W. Bush
said to TV evangelist James Robison: 'I feel like God wants me to run
for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to
need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me
or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
Bush says God chose him to lead his nation:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1075950,00.html
In a book by the late Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics: Militant
Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War, published in 1986, Ms. Halsell
quotes TV evangelist James Robison:
"'There'll be no peace until Jesus comes. Any preaching of peace prior
to this return is heresy; it's against the word of God; it's
Anti-Christ,' says TV evangelist Jim Robison, who was invited by
President Reagan to deliver the opening prayer at the 1984 Republican
National Convention."
Are you saying that presidents and other politicians aren't allowed to
have religious beliefs? Or they aren't allowed to express them?
Wake up! This is America. We have two freedoms you perhaps have not
heard of. Freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Those rights do
not end with the Oath Of Office.
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world. It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like. History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them. Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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05 Nov 2003 04:54:59 PM |
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Craig Wilson <Craig@GrayLodge.com> wrote in message news:<d1jiqvkvo058672o2pq349lnfe0gmq71b1@4ax.com>...
On 5 Nov 2003 18:47:08 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:01:49 GMT, pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com
(Johnny Asia) wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
Prior to announcing his candidacy for the Presidency, George W. Bush
said to TV evangelist James Robison: 'I feel like God wants me to run
for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to
need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me
or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
Bush says God chose him to lead his nation:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1075950,00.html
In a book by the late Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics: Militant
Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War, published in 1986, Ms. Halsell
quotes TV evangelist James Robison:
"'There'll be no peace until Jesus comes. Any preaching of peace prior
to this return is heresy; it's against the word of God; it's
Anti-Christ,' says TV evangelist Jim Robison, who was invited by
President Reagan to deliver the opening prayer at the 1984 Republican
National Convention."
Are you saying that presidents and other politicians aren't allowed to
have religious beliefs? Or they aren't allowed to express them?
Wake up! This is America. We have two freedoms you perhaps have not
heard of. Freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Those rights do
not end with the Oath Of Office.
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world. It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like. History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them. Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
Well, we can always hope that Hillary never gets any more power, can't we?
jt
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| User: "John W" |
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05 Nov 2003 07:38:21 PM |
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On 5 Nov 2003 14:54:59 -0800, (John Tibbs) wrote:
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Craig Wilson <Craig@GrayLodge.com> wrote in message news:<d1jiqvkvo058672o2pq349lnfe0gmq71b1@4ax.com>...
On 5 Nov 2003 18:47:08 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:01:49 GMT, pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com
(Johnny Asia) wrote:
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Prior to announcing his candidacy for the Presidency, George W. Bush
said to TV evangelist James Robison: 'I feel like God wants me to run
for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to
need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me
or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
Bush says God chose him to lead his nation:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1075950,00.html
In a book by the late Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics: Militant
Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War, published in 1986, Ms. Halsell
quotes TV evangelist James Robison:
"'There'll be no peace until Jesus comes. Any preaching of peace prior
to this return is heresy; it's against the word of God; it's
Anti-Christ,' says TV evangelist Jim Robison, who was invited by
President Reagan to deliver the opening prayer at the 1984 Republican
National Convention."
Are you saying that presidents and other politicians aren't allowed to
have religious beliefs? Or they aren't allowed to express them?
Wake up! This is America. We have two freedoms you perhaps have not
heard of. Freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Those rights do
not end with the Oath Of Office.
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world. It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like. History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them. Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
Well, we can always hope that Hillary never gets any more power, can't we?
jt
The liar again! She promised New York that if they voted her in as
senator, she'd serve her 6 year term. Now she's talking about running.
Can she run again? She's already served 8 years!
John W
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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06 Nov 2003 04:21:37 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2f9jqvc0t7780e1f49ojmt3h0c4s089d02@4ax.com>...
On 5 Nov 2003 14:54:59 -0800, (John Tibbs) wrote:
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Craig Wilson <Craig@GrayLodge.com> wrote in message news:<d1jiqvkvo058672o2pq349lnfe0gmq71b1@4ax.com>...
On 5 Nov 2003 18:47:08 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:01:49 GMT, pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com
(Johnny Asia) wrote:
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Prior to announcing his candidacy for the Presidency, George W. Bush
said to TV evangelist James Robison: 'I feel like God wants me to run
for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to
need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me
or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
Bush says God chose him to lead his nation:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1075950,00.html
In a book by the late Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics: Militant
Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War, published in 1986, Ms. Halsell
quotes TV evangelist James Robison:
"'There'll be no peace until Jesus comes. Any preaching of peace prior
to this return is heresy; it's against the word of God; it's
Anti-Christ,' says TV evangelist Jim Robison, who was invited by
President Reagan to deliver the opening prayer at the 1984 Republican
National Convention."
Are you saying that presidents and other politicians aren't allowed to
have religious beliefs? Or they aren't allowed to express them?
Wake up! This is America. We have two freedoms you perhaps have not
heard of. Freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Those rights do
not end with the Oath Of Office.
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world. It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like. History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them. Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
Well, we can always hope that Hillary never gets any more power, can't we?
jt
The liar again! She promised New York that if they voted her in as
senator, she'd serve her 6 year term. Now she's talking about running.
Can she run again? She's already served 8 years!
John W
Served herself, you mean. Well, if we ever needed a 'mother' figure
for this country I certainly prefer Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan, or
Laura Bush and not some twit like Hillary that thinks she should think
for everyone.
jt
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| User: "John W" |
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05 Nov 2003 07:36:59 PM |
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On 5 Nov 2003 19:19:13 GMT, Craig Wilson <Craig@GrayLodge.com> wrote:
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On 5 Nov 2003 18:47:08 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 10:01:49 GMT, pope_about_town at Xyahoo.com
(Johnny Asia) wrote:
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Prior to announcing his candidacy for the Presidency, George W. Bush
said to TV evangelist James Robison: 'I feel like God wants me to run
for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to
need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me
or my family, but God wants me to do it.'
Bush says God chose him to lead his nation:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1075950,00.html
In a book by the late Grace Halsell, Prophecy and Politics: Militant
Evangelists on the Road to Nuclear War, published in 1986, Ms. Halsell
quotes TV evangelist James Robison:
"'There'll be no peace until Jesus comes. Any preaching of peace prior
to this return is heresy; it's against the word of God; it's
Anti-Christ,' says TV evangelist Jim Robison, who was invited by
President Reagan to deliver the opening prayer at the 1984 Republican
National Convention."
Are you saying that presidents and other politicians aren't allowed to
have religious beliefs? Or they aren't allowed to express them?
Wake up! This is America. We have two freedoms you perhaps have not
heard of. Freedom of religion, and freedom of speech. Those rights do
not end with the Oath Of Office.
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world.
No, actually, that concept is right out of the Bible you just
suggested that you read. You missed a spot.
All authority is given by God, and we are subject to that authority.
Saddam Hussein was put there by God. He was also removed by God. Tony
Blair was put there by God. Richard Nixon was put there by God; he was
also removed by God. George W Bush is the most powerful man in the
world, as was Bill Clinton before him, because God put him there.
And don't forget it.
It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like.
You don't know your Bible. George W. Bush believe it, as do I. The
Bible teaches that ALL leadership, including Pharaoh, and the King
Herod who ordered baby Jesus killed.
All authority is put in place by God.
History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them.
So you are either suggesting you are not a Christian, or you do not
know the Bible.
John W
Megalomania is an ugly thing
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06 Nov 2003 08:35:38 PM |
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John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<669jqvs3j5g093k0hlhcgsl1fd63t1g68r@4ax.com>...
You don't know your Bible. George W. Bush believe it, as do I.
The Bible teaches that ALL leadership, including Pharaoh, and
the King Herod who ordered baby Jesus killed.
All authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: [You] no-good fucking sonovabitch. (1)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: We're gonna take this thing [the evangelicals] over...
(2)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ***** [is what my father and I talk about]. (3)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Go to hell... (4)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: There's Adam Clymer -- major league ***** -- from
the New York Times... (5)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: People communicate with God and reach God in different
ways. ...And I am mindful of what Billy Graham one time told me, for
me not to try to figure out...who gets to go to heaven. ...And when I
told you I'm a sinner -- you need to take that in the figurative
sense. (6)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret
I can't say anything more. (7)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ...four Gentile governors - one Methodist, two
Catholics, and a Mormon, and several Jewish-American friends...prayed
together, on bended knee...around an altar kneeling, one common Lord.
Faith changes lives. I know, because faith has changed mine. (8)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ["Did I have any qualms, say, about joining an elite
secret club like Skull and Bones at Yale University?"] No qualms at
all. I was honored. ...["How do I demystify it a bit for those who
might think it's a cross between a Masonic Lodge and the Trilateral
Commission?"] Without revealing all the great secrets? ...Someone a
year ahead of me tapped me. There was an entry celebration. I can't
remember whether my dad showed up or not. (9)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Throughout the world, people of all religions
recognize Jesus Christ as an example of love, compassion, sacrifice
and service. Reaching out to the poor, the suffering and the
marginalized, he provided moral leadership that continues to inspire
countless men, women and children today. (10)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: All Presidents of the United States have come to the
National Prayer Breakfast, regardless of their religious views. No
matter what our background, in prayer we share something universal --
a desire to speak and listen to our Maker, and to know His plan for
our lives. ...Men and women can be good without faith, but faith is a
force of goodness. Men and women can be compassionate without faith,
but faith often inspires compassion. Human beings can love without
faith, but faith is a great teacher of love. ...Faith is also
important to the civility of our country. It teaches us not merely to
tolerate one another, but to respect one another -- to show a regard
for different views and the courtesy to listen. This is essential to
democracy. It is also the proper way to treat human beings created
in the divine image. We'll have our disagreements. Civility does not
require us to abandon deeply-held beliefs. Civility does not demand
casual creeds and colorless convictions. Americans have always
believed that civility and firm resolve could live easily with one
another. But civility does mean that our public debate ought to be
free from bitterness and anger, rancor and ill-will. We have an
obligation to make our case, not to demonize our opponents. As the
Book of James reminds us, fresh water and salt water cannot flow from
the same spring. (11)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take
a while... [But] we will rid the world of the evil-doers. (12)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I have told the nation more than once that...the
teachings of Islam are the teachings of peace and good. ...And I also
appreciate the prayers to the universal God. (13)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I appreciate your [the Russians'] understanding there
is a universal and gracious God. (14)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ...universal God...is important -- obviously,
important part of my life, but very important part of the life of our
country. (15)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: As more and more people go to their churches and
synagogues and mosques and hear that universal call to love a
neighbor, America's culture is changing. ...Out of the evil done to
this great land is going to come incredible good... (16)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Islam is...a faith based upon love, not hate.
....Americans of all faiths will come together in a spirit of unity...
Everybody ought to worship the Almighty, however they choose. (17)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I am pleased to join you today in the celebration of
Eid, the culmination of the Holy Month of Ramadan. ...Islam traces
its origins back to God's call on Abraham. And Ramadan commemorates
the revelation of God's word in the Holy Koran to the prophet
Mohammad... The spirit behind this holiday is a reminder that...Islam
affirms God's justice... Eid Mubarak. God bless. (18)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: The crew of the shuttle Columbia did not return safely
to Earth; yet we can pray that all are safely home. (19)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: F___ Saddam. We're taking him out. (20)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: America welcomes individuals of all backgrounds and
religions, and our citizens hold diverse beliefs. In prayer, we share
the universal desire to speak and listen to our Maker and to seek the
plans He has for our lives. ...In this hour of history's calling,
Americans are bowing humbly in churches, synagogues, temples, mosques,
and in their own homes, in the presence of the Almighty. ...Now,
therefore, I, George W. Bush, President of the United States of
America, do hereby proclaim May 1, 2003, as a National Day of Prayer.
I ask the citizens of our Nation to pray, each after his or her own
faith, in thanksgiving for the freedoms and blessings we have received
and for God's continued guidance and protection. (21)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: We are mindful as well that some good men and women
are not making the journey home. ...Every name, every life is a loss
to our military, to our nation and to the loved ones who grieve.
There is no homecoming for these families. Yet we pray in God's time
their reunion will come. (22)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them,
and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam [Hussein], which I did,
and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If
you [Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas] help me I will act, and
if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them. (23)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Islam's a peaceful religion. The basic tenets of
Islam is peace and respect and tolerance. (24)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Ramadan...provides Muslims a time to...practice God's
commands. ...Islam is a peaceful religion... (25)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Ramadan...this holy time..is...a good time for people
of all faiths to reflect on...[our] gratitude to God... I
particularly want to thank Imam Faizul Khan, who will lead us in
prayer. ...Islam is a religion that brings hope and comfort to good
people across America and around the world. Tonight we honor...the
tradition of Islam by hosting this Iftaar at the White House. (26)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
S O U R C E S
(1) George W. Bush in April 1986, addressing Al Hunt of the Wall
Street Journal, quoted in Jake Tapper, "God Is Their CoPilot: Both
Born-Again, Bush and Gore Have Made This the Most God-Fearing
Presidential Race in 100 Years. But Their Faiths Have Led these Men in
Two Completely Different Directions," SALON, 07 July 2000,
http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/07/07/born_again/.
(2) George W. Bush in March 1987 quoted by Doug Wead, cited in Hanna
Rosin, "Applying Personal Faith to Public Policy: 'Changed Man'
Advocates Church-Based Programs," WASHINGTON POST, 24 July 2000,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A31740-2000Jul23¬Found=true.
"[George W. Bush's] father, then running for president, was under
attack by what inside the campaign they called 'the aliens' --
evangelical Republicans flocking to the candidacy of Pat Robertson.
Bush arrived in Washington in March 1987 and was put in charge of
'coalitions,' the campaign code word for evangelicals. 'He came in
and said, "We're gonna take this thing over,"' recalls Doug Wead, a
campaign aide with ties to the evangelicals and Bush's partner in the
venture."
(3) George W. Bush in response to a Hartford [Connecticut] Courant
reporter who asked what Bush and his father talked about when they
weren't discussing politics at the 1988 Republican convention, quoted
in Jake Tapper, op. cit.
(4) Texas Governor George W. Bush in 1998, right before leaving for a
trip to Israel, in response to an Austin American-Statesman reporter
who asked Bush what he would say to the Israelis upon arrival, quoted
in Jake Tapper, op. cit.
(5) Texas Governor George W. Bush, quoted in Jake Tapper, "A 'Major
League *****': In an Embarrassing Gaffe, George W. Bush Insults a
New York Times Reporter," SALON, 04 September 2000,
http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/09/04/cuss_word/.
(6) Texas Governor George W. Bush, "George W. Bush: Running on His
Faith," US NEWS ONLINE, 1999,
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/33/story_3345_1.html.
(7) Texas Governor George W. Bush, A CHARGE TO KEEP, ed. Mickey
Herskowitz, Morrow,William & Co., November 1999.
(8) Ibid.
(9) Texas Governor George W. Bush interviewed in Walter Isaacson, "My
Heritage Is Part of Who I Am," TIME, 30 July 2000,
http://www.time.com/time/campaign2000/story/textframe_bushinterview1.html
and http://www.time.com/time/campaign2000/story/textframe_bushinterview2.html.
(10) Texas Governor George W. Bush, quoted in Laurie Goodstein,
"Bush's 'Jesus Day' Is Called a First Amendment Violation," NEW YORK
TIMES, 06 August 2000, http://www.beth-am.org/index2.cfm?page=362.
(11) US President George W. Bush, "Remarks by the President at
National Prayer Breakfast, Washington Hilton Hotel, Washington. D.C.,"
Office of the Press Secretary, 01 February 2001,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010201.html.
(12) US President George W. Bush quoted in John F. Harris, "Bush Gets
More International Support For U.S. Campaign Against Terrorism:
Officials Warn New Attacks Are Possible," WASHINGTON POST, 17
September 2001, page A01,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41157/2001Sep16.html.
(13) US President George W. Bush, "Text: Bush Welcomes Muslim
Americans to White House," 26 September 2001,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/specials/attacked/transcripts/bushtext2_092601.html.
(14) US President George W. Bush, "Remarks by the President to
Community and Religious Leaders, Spaso House, Moscow, Russia," Office
of the Press Secretary, 24 May 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/05/20020524-12.html.
(15) US President George W. Bush, "President Bush, President Putin
Discuss Joint Efforts against Terrorism: Remarks by President Bush and
Russian President Putin in Photo Opportunity - Calgary, Kananaskis,
Canada," Office of the Press Secretary, 27 June 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020627-3.html.
(16) US President George W. Bush, "President Talks Homeland/Economic
Security at Mt. Rushmore: Remarks by the President on Homeland
Security and the Budget," Mount Rushmore, South Dakota, Office of the
Press Secretary, 15 August 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/20020815.html.
(17) US President George W. Bush, "President Bush Holds Roundtable
with Arab- and Muslim-American Leaders, Embassy at Afghanistan,
Washington, D.C.," Office of the Press Secretary, 10 September 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020910-7.html.
(18) US President George W. Bush, "President Commemorates Eid al-Fitr:
Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr, The Islamic Center of
Washington, D.C., Washington, D.C.," Office of the Press Secretary, 05
December 2002, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/12/20021205-5.html.
(19) US President George W. Bush, "President Addresses Nation on Space
Shuttle Columbia Tragedy: Remarks by the President on the Loss of
Space Shuttle Columbia, The Cabinet Room, 01 February 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030201-2.html.
(20) US President George W. Bush at the White House in March 2002,
quoted in Michael Elliott and James Carney, "First Stop, Iraq: How Did
the U.S. End up Taking on Saddam? The Inside Story of How Iraq Jumped
to the Top of Bush's Agenda -- and Why the Outcome There May
Foreshadow a Different World Order," TIME, 23 March 2003,
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030331/wroad.html.
(21) US President George W. Bush, "National Day of Prayer, 2003, by
the President of the United States of America: A Proclamation," Office
of the Press Secretary, 30 April 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/04/20030430-22.html.
(22) US President George W. Bush, "Full Text: Bush Speech Aboard the
USS Abraham Lincoln," 01 May 2003,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2627-2003May1.html.
(23) US President George W. Bush, quoted by Palestinian Prime Minister
Mahmoud Abbas, in Arnon Regular, "'Road Map Is a Life Saver for Us,'
PM Abbas Tells Hamas," HAARETZ, 25 June 2003,
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y.
Also cf. Chris Floyd, "Errand Boy," MOSCOW TIMES, 27 June 2003,
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2003/06/27/120.html.
(24) US President George W. Bush, "Roundtable Interview of the
President by the Press Pool, Aboard Air Force One, En Route Canberra,
Australia," Office of the Press Secretary, 22 October 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031022-7.html.
(25) US President George W. Bush, "President's Ramadan Message,"
Office of the Press Secretary, 24 October 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031024-10.html.
(26) US President George W. Bush, "Remarks by the President at Iftaar
with Ambassadors and Muslim Leaders, State Floor," Office of the Press
Secretary, 28 October 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031028-9.html.
One with you in Christ,
HP Opus
http://fellow-servants-of-christ.0catch.com
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| Title: Re: Bush Carries on Reagan's Looney Doomsday Legacy |
16 Nov 2003 01:26:55 AM |
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On 6 Nov 2003 18:35:38 -0800, (HP Opus) wrote:
John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<669jqvs3j5g093k0hlhcgsl1fd63t1g68r@4ax.com>...
You don't know your Bible. George W. Bush believe it, as do I.
The Bible teaches that ALL leadership, including Pharaoh, and
the King Herod who ordered baby Jesus killed.
All authority is put in place by God.
I think there is probably a point of some kind down below. But when
you start your remarks with the crude crap below, I lose interest
rapidly.
John W
GEORGE W. BUSH: [You] no-good fucking sonovabitch. (1)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: We're gonna take this thing [the evangelicals] over...
(2)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ***** [is what my father and I talk about]. (3)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Go to hell... (4)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: There's Adam Clymer -- major league ***** -- from
the New York Times... (5)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: People communicate with God and reach God in different
ways. ...And I am mindful of what Billy Graham one time told me, for
me not to try to figure out...who gets to go to heaven. ...And when I
told you I'm a sinner -- you need to take that in the figurative
sense. (6)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I joined Skull and Bones, a secret society, so secret
I can't say anything more. (7)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ...four Gentile governors - one Methodist, two
Catholics, and a Mormon, and several Jewish-American friends...prayed
together, on bended knee...around an altar kneeling, one common Lord.
Faith changes lives. I know, because faith has changed mine. (8)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ["Did I have any qualms, say, about joining an elite
secret club like Skull and Bones at Yale University?"] No qualms at
all. I was honored. ...["How do I demystify it a bit for those who
might think it's a cross between a Masonic Lodge and the Trilateral
Commission?"] Without revealing all the great secrets? ...Someone a
year ahead of me tapped me. There was an entry celebration. I can't
remember whether my dad showed up or not. (9)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Throughout the world, people of all religions
recognize Jesus Christ as an example of love, compassion, sacrifice
and service. Reaching out to the poor, the suffering and the
marginalized, he provided moral leadership that continues to inspire
countless men, women and children today. (10)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: All Presidents of the United States have come to the
National Prayer Breakfast, regardless of their religious views. No
matter what our background, in prayer we share something universal --
a desire to speak and listen to our Maker, and to know His plan for
our lives. ...Men and women can be good without faith, but faith is a
force of goodness. Men and women can be compassionate without faith,
but faith often inspires compassion. Human beings can love without
faith, but faith is a great teacher of love. ...Faith is also
important to the civility of our country. It teaches us not merely to
tolerate one another, but to respect one another -- to show a regard
for different views and the courtesy to listen. This is essential to
democracy. It is also the proper way to treat human beings created
in the divine image. We'll have our disagreements. Civility does not
require us to abandon deeply-held beliefs. Civility does not demand
casual creeds and colorless convictions. Americans have always
believed that civility and firm resolve could live easily with one
another. But civility does mean that our public debate ought to be
free from bitterness and anger, rancor and ill-will. We have an
obligation to make our case, not to demonize our opponents. As the
Book of James reminds us, fresh water and salt water cannot flow from
the same spring. (11)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: This crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take
a while... [But] we will rid the world of the evil-doers. (12)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I have told the nation more than once that...the
teachings of Islam are the teachings of peace and good. ...And I also
appreciate the prayers to the universal God. (13)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I appreciate your [the Russians'] understanding there
is a universal and gracious God. (14)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: ...universal God...is important -- obviously,
important part of my life, but very important part of the life of our
country. (15)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: As more and more people go to their churches and
synagogues and mosques and hear that universal call to love a
neighbor, America's culture is changing. ...Out of the evil done to
this great land is going to come incredible good... (16)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Islam is...a faith based upon love, not hate.
...Americans of all faiths will come together in a spirit of unity...
Everybody ought to worship the Almighty, however they choose. (17)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: I am pleased to join you today in the celebration of
Eid, the culmination of the Holy Month of Ramadan. ...Islam traces
its origins back to God's call on Abraham. And Ramadan commemorates
the revelation of God's word in the Holy Koran to the prophet
Mohammad... The spirit behind this holiday is a reminder that...Islam
affirms God's justice... Eid Mubarak. God bless. (18)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: The crew of the shuttle Columbia did not return safely
to Earth; yet we can pray that all are safely home. (19)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: F___ Saddam. We're taking him out. (20)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: America welcomes individuals of all backgrounds and
religions, and our citizens hold diverse beliefs. In prayer, we share
the universal desire to speak and listen to our Maker and to seek the
plans He has for our lives. ...In this hour of history's calling,
Americans are bowing humbly in churches, synagogues, temples, mosques,
and in their own homes, in the presence of the Almighty. ...Now,
therefore, I, George W. Bush, President of the United States of
America, do hereby proclaim May 1, 2003, as a National Day of Prayer.
I ask the citizens of our Nation to pray, each after his or her own
faith, in thanksgiving for the freedoms and blessings we have received
and for God's continued guidance and protection. (21)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: We are mindful as well that some good men and women
are not making the journey home. ...Every name, every life is a loss
to our military, to our nation and to the loved ones who grieve.
There is no homecoming for these families. Yet we pray in God's time
their reunion will come. (22)
JOHN WE
THERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them,
and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam [Hussein], which I did,
and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If
you [Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas] help me I will act, and
if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them. (23)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Islam's a peaceful religion. The basic tenets of
Islam is peace and respect and tolerance. (24)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Ramadan...provides Muslims a time to...practice God's
commands. ...Islam is a peaceful religion... (25)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
GEORGE W. BUSH: Ramadan...this holy time..is...a good time for people
of all faiths to reflect on...[our] gratitude to God... I
particularly want to thank Imam Faizul Khan, who will lead us in
prayer. ...Islam is a religion that brings hope and comfort to good
people across America and around the world. Tonight we honor...the
tradition of Islam by hosting this Iftaar at the White House. (26)
JOHN WEATHERLY: George W. Bush believe...that ALL leadership...All
authority is put in place by God.
S O U R C E S
(1) George W. Bush in April 1986, addressing Al Hunt of the Wall
Street Journal, quoted in Jake Tapper, "God Is Their CoPilot: Both
Born-Again, Bush and Gore Have Made This the Most God-Fearing
Presidential Race in 100 Years. But Their Faiths Have Led these Men in
Two Completely Different Directions," SALON, 07 July 2000,
http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/07/07/born_again/.
(2) George W. Bush in March 1987 quoted by Doug Wead, cited in Hanna
Rosin, "Applying Personal Faith to Public Policy: 'Changed Man'
Advocates Church-Based Programs," WASHINGTON POST, 24 July 2000,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A31740-2000Jul23¬Found=true.
"[George W. Bush's] father, then running for president, was under
attack by what inside the campaign they called 'the aliens' --
evangelical Republicans flocking to the candidacy of Pat Robertson.
Bush arrived in Washington in March 1987 and was put in charge of
'coalitions,' the campaign code word for evangelicals. 'He came in
and said, "We're gonna take this thing over,"' recalls Doug Wead, a
campaign aide with ties to the evangelicals and Bush's partner in the
venture."
(3) George W. Bush in response to a Hartford [Connecticut] Courant
reporter who asked what Bush and his father talked about when they
weren't discussing politics at the 1988 Republican convention, quoted
in Jake Tapper, op. cit.
(4) Texas Governor George W. Bush in 1998, right before leaving for a
trip to Israel, in response to an Austin American-Statesman reporter
who asked Bush what he would say to the Israelis upon arrival, quoted
in Jake Tapper, op. cit.
(5) Texas Governor George W. Bush, quoted in Jake Tapper, "A 'Major
League *****': In an Embarrassing Gaffe, George W. Bush Insults a
New York Times Reporter," SALON, 04 September 2000,
http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/09/04/cuss_word/.
(6) Texas Governor George W. Bush, "George W. Bush: Running on His
Faith," US NEWS ONLINE, 1999,
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/33/story_3345_1.html.
(7) Texas Governor George W. Bush, A CHARGE TO KEEP, ed. Mickey
Herskowitz, Morrow,William & Co., November 1999.
(8) Ibid.
(9) Texas Governor George W. Bush interviewed in Walter Isaacson, "My
Heritage Is Part of Who I Am," TIME, 30 July 2000,
http://www.time.com/time/campaign2000/story/textframe_bushinterview1.html
and http://www.time.com/time/campaign2000/story/textframe_bushinterview2.html.
(10) Texas Governor George W. Bush, quoted in Laurie Goodstein,
"Bush's 'Jesus Day' Is Called a First Amendment Violation," NEW YORK
TIMES, 06 August 2000, http://www.beth-am.org/index2.cfm?page=362.
(11) US President George W. Bush, "Remarks by the President at
National Prayer Breakfast, Washington Hilton Hotel, Washington. D.C.,"
Office of the Press Secretary, 01 February 2001,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/02/20010201.html.
(12) US President George W. Bush quoted in John F. Harris, "Bush Gets
More International Support For U.S. Campaign Against Terrorism:
Officials Warn New Attacks Are Possible," WASHINGTON POST, 17
September 2001, page A01,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41157/2001Sep16.html.
(13) US President George W. Bush, "Text: Bush Welcomes Muslim
Americans to White House," 26 September 2001,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/specials/attacked/transcripts/bushtext2_092601.html.
(14) US President George W. Bush, "Remarks by the President to
Community and Religious Leaders, Spaso House, Moscow, Russia," Office
of the Press Secretary, 24 May 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/05/20020524-12.html.
(15) US President George W. Bush, "President Bush, President Putin
Discuss Joint Efforts against Terrorism: Remarks by President Bush and
Russian President Putin in Photo Opportunity - Calgary, Kananaskis,
Canada," Office of the Press Secretary, 27 June 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020627-3.html.
(16) US President George W. Bush, "President Talks Homeland/Economic
Security at Mt. Rushmore: Remarks by the President on Homeland
Security and the Budget," Mount Rushmore, South Dakota, Office of the
Press Secretary, 15 August 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/20020815.html.
(17) US President George W. Bush, "President Bush Holds Roundtable
with Arab- and Muslim-American Leaders, Embassy at Afghanistan,
Washington, D.C.," Office of the Press Secretary, 10 September 2002,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020910-7.html.
(18) US President George W. Bush, "President Commemorates Eid al-Fitr:
Remarks by the President on Eid Al-Fitr, The Islamic Center of
Washington, D.C., Washington, D.C.," Office of the Press Secretary, 05
December 2002, http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/12/20021205-5.html.
(19) US President George W. Bush, "President Addresses Nation on Space
Shuttle Columbia Tragedy: Remarks by the President on the Loss of
Space Shuttle Columbia, The Cabinet Room, 01 February 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030201-2.html.
(20) US President George W. Bush at the White House in March 2002,
quoted in Michael Elliott and James Carney, "First Stop, Iraq: How Did
the U.S. End up Taking on Saddam? The Inside Story of How Iraq Jumped
to the Top of Bush's Agenda -- and Why the Outcome There May
Foreshadow a Different World Order," TIME, 23 March 2003,
http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030331/wroad.html.
(21) US President George W. Bush, "National Day of Prayer, 2003, by
the President of the United States of America: A Proclamation," Office
of the Press Secretary, 30 April 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/04/20030430-22.html.
(22) US President George W. Bush, "Full Text: Bush Speech Aboard the
USS Abraham Lincoln," 01 May 2003,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2627-2003May1.html.
(23) US President George W. Bush, quoted by Palestinian Prime Minister
Mahmoud Abbas, in Arnon Regular, "'Road Map Is a Life Saver for Us,'
PM Abbas Tells Hamas," HAARETZ, 25 June 2003,
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y.
Also cf. Chris Floyd, "Errand Boy," MOSCOW TIMES, 27 June 2003,
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2003/06/27/120.html.
(24) US President George W. Bush, "Roundtable Interview of the
President by the Press Pool, Aboard Air Force One, En Route Canberra,
Australia," Office of the Press Secretary, 22 October 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031022-7.html.
(25) US President George W. Bush, "President's Ramadan Message,"
Office of the Press Secretary, 24 October 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031024-10.html.
(26) US President George W. Bush, "Remarks by the President at Iftaar
with Ambassadors and Muslim Leaders, State Floor," Office of the Press
Secretary, 28 October 2003,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031028-9.html.
One with you in Christ,
HP Opus
http://fellow-servants-of-christ.0catch.com
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| Title: Re: Bush Carries on Reagan's Looney Doomsday Legacy |
06 Nov 2003 05:22:27 AM |
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On 6 Nov 2003 01:36:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world.
No, actually, that concept is right out of the Bible you just
suggested that you read. You missed a spot.
All authority is given by God, and we are subject to that authority.
Saddam Hussein was put there by God. He was also removed by God. Tony
Blair was put there by God. Richard Nixon was put there by God; he was
also removed by God. George W Bush is the most powerful man in the
world, as was Bill Clinton before him, because God put him there.
And don't forget it.
Using that logic, anyone seizing power by any means, regardless of
how horrendous has the authority of God and whatever atrocities they
might commit against the people are warranted. I think you confuse
power and authority, and if you actually read the New Testament - and
understood it - you'd see it's a distinction Jesus himself made more
than once.
It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like.
You don't know your Bible. George W. Bush believe it, as do I. The
Bible teaches that ALL leadership, including Pharaoh, and the King
Herod who ordered baby Jesus killed.
All authority is put in place by God.
Believe what you like. It is a fine way to abdicate any responsibility
for using your own mind and conscience.
History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them.
So you are either suggesting you are not a Christian, or you do not
know the Bible.
I never claimed to be a Christian - at least by your definition. You
are the one who decided to cross-post your rabid right wing religious
drivel to rec.org.mensa and that is where I found it and that is where
I am replying from.
Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
This remains demonstrably true, regardless of how you dress it up.
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On 6 Nov 2003 11:22:27 GMT, Craig Wilson <Craig@GrayLodge.com> wrote:
On 6 Nov 2003 01:36:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world.
No, actually, that concept is right out of the Bible you just
suggested that you read. You missed a spot.
All authority is given by God, and we are subject to that authority.
Saddam Hussein was put there by God. He was also removed by God. Tony
Blair was put there by God. Richard Nixon was put there by God; he was
also removed by God. George W Bush is the most powerful man in the
world, as was Bill Clinton before him, because God put him there.
And don't forget it.
Using that logic, anyone seizing power by any means, regardless of
how horrendous has the authority of God and whatever atrocities they
might commit against the people are warranted.
I am not debating what the Bible says and how to apply it. I merely
mentioned what the Bible says about authority. God puts our leaders in
place, and He can remove them.
I think you confuse
power and authority,
That is your right. I disagree.
and if you actually read the New Testament - and
understood it - you'd see it's a distinction Jesus himself made more
than once.
You have mis-interpreted my comment.
It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like.
You don't know your Bible. George W. Bush believe it, as do I. The
Bible teaches that ALL leadership, including Pharaoh, and the King
Herod who ordered baby Jesus killed.
All authority is put in place by God.
Believe what you like.
Thank you.
It is a fine way to abdicate any responsibility
for using your own mind and conscience.
I disagree. God isn't not nearly so interested in human principalities
and powers as He is with our souls.
History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them.
So you are either suggesting you are not a Christian, or you do not
know the Bible.
I never claimed to be a Christian - at least by your definition. You
are the one who decided to cross-post your rabid right wing religious
drivel to rec.org.mensa and that is where I found it and that is where
I am replying from.
I have not cross-posted. One of yours evidently did, and I saw a
ridiculous remark made by a pseudo-smart person, and I decided to
rebut a ridiculous, non-sensical comment.
Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
This remains demonstrably true, regardless of how you dress it up.
I never said otherwise; nor has God. And we find down through history,
even in the Bible, a history of man living up to the authority given
to him, and man living down to it. King David's successes reached the
pinnacle of ancient's man's achievements; then he had a hot flash for
a woman and he murdered her husband so he could sleep with the man's
wife.
John W
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16 Nov 2003 08:38:32 AM |
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God does not establish the governments of man; man does. God establishes
government by giving man the Word which teaches man to govern himself by
these principles. This is the only government established by God, the Word
that proceeds forth from His mouth; not the "bible" and all the false
teachings related to this book.
Hitler, by your principle, was set in place by God. Ridiculous. However,
Bush is following this same delusion Hitler possessed and followed..Bush,
and his type, are the ones scriptures warn man of.
DW Suiter
Son of God
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On 6 Nov 2003 11:22:27 GMT, Craig Wilson <Craig@GrayLodge.com> wrote:
On 6 Nov 2003 01:36:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world.
No, actually, that concept is right out of the Bible you just
suggested that you read. You missed a spot.
All authority is given by God, and we are subject to that authority.
Saddam Hussein was put there by God. He was also removed by God. Tony
Blair was put there by God. Richard Nixon was put there by God; he was
also removed by God. George W Bush is the most powerful man in the
world, as was Bill Clinton before him, because God put him there.
And don't forget it.
Using that logic, anyone seizing power by any means, regardless of
how horrendous has the authority of God and whatever atrocities they
might commit against the people are warranted.
I am not debating what the Bible says and how to apply it. I merely
mentioned what the Bible says about authority. God puts our leaders in
place, and He can remove them.
I think you confuse
power and authority,
That is your right. I disagree.
and if you actually read the New Testament - and
understood it - you'd see it's a distinction Jesus himself made more
than once.
You have mis-interpreted my comment.
It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like.
You don't know your Bible. George W. Bush believe it, as do I. The
Bible teaches that ALL leadership, including Pharaoh, and the King
Herod who ordered baby Jesus killed.
All authority is put in place by God.
Believe what you like.
Thank you.
It is a fine way to abdicate any responsibility
for using your own mind and conscience.
I disagree. God isn't not nearly so interested in human principalities
and powers as He is with our souls.
History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them.
So you are either suggesting you are not a Christian, or you do not
know the Bible.
I never claimed to be a Christian - at least by your definition. You
are the one who decided to cross-post your rabid right wing religious
drivel to rec.org.mensa and that is where I found it and that is where
I am replying from.
I have not cross-posted. One of yours evidently did, and I saw a
ridiculous remark made by a pseudo-smart person, and I decided to
rebut a ridiculous, non-sensical comment.
Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
This remains demonstrably true, regardless of how you dress it up.
I never said otherwise; nor has God. And we find down through history,
even in the Bible, a history of man living up to the authority given
to him, and man living down to it. King David's successes reached the
pinnacle of ancient's man's achievements; then he had a hot flash for
a woman and he murdered her husband so he could sleep with the man's
wife.
John W
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16 Nov 2003 01:32:32 PM |
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"DW Suiter" <dwsuiter@toast.net> wrote
God does not establish the governments of man; man does. God establishes
government by giving man the Word which teaches man to govern himself by
these principles. This is the only government established by God, the Word
that proceeds forth from His mouth; not the "bible" and all the false
teachings related to this book.
Hitler, by your principle, was set in place by God. Ridiculous. However,
Bush is following this same delusion Hitler possessed and followed..Bush,
and his type, are the ones scriptures warn man of.
DW Suiter
Son of God
Bush follows no such delusion, Mr. Suiter (self proclaimed son of
God). Bush said he felt "called" to run for President. You are
merely inventing clever lies to bolster your false arguements.
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16 Nov 2003 10:17:23 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 06:38:32 -0800, "DW Suiter" <dwsuiter@toast.net>
wrote:
God does not establish the governments of man; man does. God establishes
government by giving man the Word which teaches man to govern himself by
these principles. This is the only government established by God, the Word
that proceeds forth from His mouth; not the "bible" and all the false
teachings related to this book.
Hitler, by your principle, was set in place by God. Ridiculous. However,
Bush is following this same delusion Hitler possessed and followed..Bush,
and his type, are the ones scriptures warn man of.
DW Suiter
Son of God
I couldn't agree more.
Craig
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On 6 Nov 2003 11:22:27 GMT, Craig Wilson <Craig@GrayLodge.com> wrote:
On 6 Nov 2003 01:36:59 GMT, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It is one thing to have religious beliefs - hell, I have those
myself. It is another thing altogether to suffer from the delusion
that you have been personally chosen by the Creator of All Things to
rule over the world.
No, actually, that concept is right out of the Bible you just
suggested that you read. You missed a spot.
All authority is given by God, and we are subject to that authority.
Saddam Hussein was put there by God. He was also removed by God. Tony
Blair was put there by God. Richard Nixon was put there by God; he was
also removed by God. George W Bush is the most powerful man in the
world, as was Bill Clinton before him, because God put him there.
And don't forget it.
Using that logic, anyone seizing power by any means, regardless of
how horrendous has the authority of God and whatever atrocities they
might commit against the people are warranted.
I am not debating what the Bible says and how to apply it. I merely
mentioned what the Bible says about authority. God puts our leaders in
place, and He can remove them.
I think you confuse
power and authority,
That is your right. I disagree.
and if you actually read the New Testament - and
understood it - you'd see it's a distinction Jesus himself made more
than once.
You have mis-interpreted my comment.
It is, of course, not an uncommon delusion among
Kings and the like.
You don't know your Bible. George W. Bush believe it, as do I. The
Bible teaches that ALL leadership, including Pharaoh, and the King
Herod who ordered baby Jesus killed.
All authority is put in place by God.
Believe what you like.
Thank you.
It is a fine way to abdicate any responsibility
for using your own mind and conscience.
I disagree. God isn't not nearly so interested in human principalities
and powers as He is with our souls.
History is replete with examples. Sadly, I am
unable to think of a single one, however, that did not end tragically
for the poor bastards ruled over by them.
So you are either suggesting you are not a Christian, or you do not
know the Bible.
I never claimed to be a Christian - at least by your definition. You
are the one who decided to cross-post your rabid right wing religious
drivel to rec.org.mensa and that is where I found it and that is where
I am replying from.
I have not cross-posted. One of yours evidently did, and I saw a
ridiculous remark made by a pseudo-smart person, and I decided to
rebut a ridiculous, non-sensical comment.
Megalomania is an ugly thing
- and exceedingly dangerous in the hands of powerful men.
This remains demonstrably true, regardless of how you dress it up.
I never said otherwise; nor has God. And we find down through history,
even in the Bible, a history of man living up to the authority given
to him, and man living down to it. King David's successes reached the
pinnacle of ancient's man's achievements; then he had a hot flash for
a woman and he murdered her husband so he could sleep with the man's
wife.
John W
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16 Nov 2003 03:10:39 PM |
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In article <k89erv8i52oossjg8ngp7n6f4p7a472c9t@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
I never said otherwise; nor has God. And we find down through history,
even in the Bible, a history of man living up to the authority given
to him, and man living down to it. King David's successes reached the
pinnacle of ancient's man's achievements; then he had a hot flash for
a woman and he murdered her husband so he could sleep with the man's
wife.
John W
The story of David is mostly - if not entirely - a myth
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18 Nov 2003 08:14:15 PM |
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"Dixie" Dean + Confederates in Pickup Trucks Drag Blacks à la James
Byrd, Jr.
"Dixie" Dean Also Wants the Nazis with Swastikas Vote
Both Howard "Dixie" Dean and Dennis "Klanman" Kucinich have revealed
their true racist colors: "Dixie" Dean and "Klanman" Kucinic are
Conderates in pickup trucks who want to drag African-Americans to
their deaths à la James Byrd, Jr.
The Union won over a hundred years ago but "Dixie" Dean still refuses
to take down the Confederate flag and "Klanman" Kucinich has pandered
to racists with codewords like "elements east of the river" in
reference to African Americans of East Cleveland. See, e.g., Cleveland
Plain Dealer. 03/12/2003.
Howard "Dixie" Dean's ignorant, racist stereotypes are demeaning to
both blacks and whites in the New South. "Dixie" Dean and his
Confederate flags have no place in the New South or the White House.
CBS 60 Minutes. "Going Home To The South." 10/27/2002.
Children of many blacks who once fled the South and segregation are
now returning to find better lives than they had in the North.
Reporters who covered the civil rights revolution of the 1960s know
the bitterness felt by those who were back then known as Negroes -
bitterness at the humiliation inflicted on them by Southern whites.
As a result, millions fled North in search of jobs, education,
dignity.
But now, millions of their children are finding out that their best
chance of living the American Dream is in the South, in places like
the suburbs around Charlotte, North Carolina; Orlando, Florida;
Houston, Texas; and especially Atlanta, Georgia.
And ironically, while their parents and grandparents may have fought
for integration, many of them have chosen to live in all-black
communities.
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Black suburban Atlanta may look like Beverly Hills, but it's Mecca for
many new migrants who are buying homes worth from $200,000 to more
than $2 million. And new subdivisions keep sprouting, marketed
especially to blacks.
Jeff Moten and his wife, Wanda, were in the first wave of this new
migration. Ten years ago, they moved here from outside New York City.
Most of their neighbors are also former Northerners.
"I blazed a trail to get out of New York," says Moten. "I just wanted
a better way for my kids."
That better way includes a lower crime rate than up North, easy access
to athletic facilities and to the arts, and several performances a
week at Atlanta's Chastain Park -- which includes champagne, Chopin
and Nancy Wilson.
It's a marvelous life, one that more blacks can now afford. Black
buying power nationwide has doubled in the last decade. Half of all
black households are now middle and upper income. And more blacks are
graduating from high school and college so they're able to land better
jobs and buy better homes.
Moten's neighbors, Eduard and Shari Weathers, and Keith and Detra
Burrell said moving South brought them the promised land.
"My father used to always say, 'Stop asking for a piece of the pie.
Make your own damn pie.' And this is us making our own pie," says
Detra Burrell.
"This is what we have. This is what we want. We're no different from
anybody else. We want nice homes. All of us have college degrees here.
All of us have white-collar jobs. Why should we have to settle for
anything less than what we have?"
Their white-collar jobs include financial consultant, school
principal, Xerox executive and computer programmer. Plus, high-tech
jobs are attracting blacks and whites to the South. But for blacks,
it's coming back to their roots. Many who've moved South say they feel
they've come home. And more than 3.5 million came home in the '90s -
twice as many as came in the '80s.
They can also find good black public schools, and trendy bars and
cafes, where the only whites are behind the bar.
"My younger brother's in the Navy, in San Diego, and he was here for
about a week," says Eduard Weathers. "And I rode him around the
neighborhood, and I said, 'Yeah, and it's just about all black out
here.' And he looked at me, he said, 'You're kidding? Those houses we
saw, black people live in those houses?' I said, 'Yeah.'"
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Renee Thomas found it hard to be black in a white neighborhood, so her
family left Philadelphia and moved to a black community outside
Atlanta. Up north, they'd been the only African-Americans in a
neighborhood of 100 white families.
"We were the first blacks that our neighbors' children had ever seen,"
says Thomas. "You often feel like you don't fit in."
But this is what really shocked her. Their son, Shay, the only black
on his school football team, was scared because he was about to play a
team that was all black.
"It really bothered me," says Thomas. "Because here my son, who's
African-American himself, was very afraid of the other team."
The football incident convinced Shay's parents they had a problem.
"Our children really identified with Caucasian children, but were very
uncomfortable around African-American children," says Thomas. "I hate
to say it, but yes. But I really wanted an African-American boy. I
didn't want a white child."
Three months after that football game, the Thomas family moved south.
Now, Shay's in a black public school making new friends.
Laurie Beard also grew up in a white neighborhood, in Milwaukee. But
her parents sent her to an all-black college, Spelman, in Atlanta, to
learn more about her own culture.
"It was just unbelievable because being from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, you
know, you're one of, you know, a few," says Beard. "And then when I
got off the flight, it was like, 'Oh, my God.' I just never realized
there were so many black people in one setting."
But Beard says she'd never move back north. In Atlanta, she got her
college degree, got married, and convinced her parents to leave
Milwaukee and come live nearby. Her parents, Israel and Gwen Beard
needed convincing because they had been part of the original migration
north, and had bad memories of the South.
Back in the '50s, Israel Beard had been a teacher in Tennessee, but he
got fed up when his white supervisor kept calling him and the school's
other black teacher "boy" in front of their students.
"I thought that that was a little debasing," remembers Israel, who
says without question that it was better in the North at that time.
"The overtness of the racism, the bigotry was not present."
He says he never expected to come back, but visiting his daughter and
seeing the change made him change his mind. Now, he says the new South
has won him over.
The South that he left was segregated effectively by force, but in the
new South, blacks can have segregation by choice.
"When we first moved here, we had the opportunity to pretty much move
on any side of town," says Moten. "And it was important to me for my
kids to see black families, mothers and fathers, households, you know,
doing well. I want them to think, 'Well, this is the norm.' I've
arrived here in my lovely black neighborhood."
"Why even move to a white neighborhood when you have a nice black
neighborhood you can move into," adds Keith Burrell, who says that
white families are welcome to move into his neighborhood.
"Everybody's welcome to move here. Wouldn't have a black power sign on
their door or their yard. No. Wouldn't bother us at all."
"I think that's the misconception, and I think that's because when we
move into their neighborhoods, it's like, 'Oh, my God. Put the house
on the market. Lock the doors.' And I hate to say it, but if they came
in, I would wonder ... One of the things you'd say, 'Well, what's up
your sleeve?' 'What is it that you want? Are you selling drugs?'"
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now, there are a lot of grown black people who wear braces on their
teeth.
"That's our badge of courage. We've arrived," says Burrell. "Growing
up, the only kids that had braces were those kids that had money.
Everybody we grew up with had the little bent-up teeth, going in
different directions. And now, we're 40 years old. I have arrived.
Look at my braces."
But not everyone can afford them. Nationwide, one in five blacks still
lives in poverty - one in five, even in Atlanta. But that's a dramatic
improvement from 10 years ago when the poverty rate was one in three.
"You understand that you are middle class, so that you might help
somebody," says Cynthia Hale, who launched her church 16 years ago
with just four people. Now, she preaches to more than 6,000 people,
and most of them live in all-black, middle and upper class
neighborhoods.
"I was so excited about being at a place where I could just kind of be
myself and let my hair down," remembers Hale. "I didn't have to prove
anything to anybody. And I think that's what causes people of any
race, any culture, to self-segregate."
Alex Wilkerson agrees. He says he was the last person who ever
expected to move back south. During World War II, he trained combat
pilots in Tuskegee, Ala. But after the war, he couldn't land a decent
job in the South.
"I realized that there were no opportunities, regardless of what
skills I could have acquired," says Wilkerson.
He moved north in disgust. But last year, he and his wife moved back
south to be near their daughter, Isabella Wilkerson, a Pulitzer
prize-winning reporter for The New York Times who moved to Atlanta to
research a book on the original migration north.
She told us that now many northern blacks are drawn to the South
because this is their mother country, the cradle of their culture.
"There's always a searching to find out whatÑwhere did this begin, and
why do we eat the food that we eat? Why do we listen to the music that
we listen to? Why do we speak the way that we do? And this is a way to
find that out," says Isabella Wilkerson, who admits she really didn't
want to come back.
Isabella Wilkerson says she got a scare recently when she came out of
an Atlanta bagel shop. It was raining so hard she couldn't make it
back to her car.
"While I was waiting, a man came towards me. He was a gaunt, tall man
who had a white goatee, and he looked as if he might have been in
another time and place -- a Confederate general," she says. "And I
immediately had this visceral reaction to him, just at how he looked."
The man, who had an umbrella, offered to walk her to her car in the
pouring rain. "I was amazed that this was happening. I had sized him
up as a Southerner that I should probably steer clear of, and he
showed this Southern hospitality that you hear so much about but don't
believe exists," says Isabella Wilkerson. "It had never happened to me
in all the years I've lived in the north."
If Martin Luther King Jr. were alive, what would he say about what was
going on in Atlanta today?
"Even he might be speechless," says Isabella Wilkerson.
Melanie Eversley. "Miller takes swipe at Dean: Comments on South
criticized." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. 11/03/2003.
WASHINGTON -- Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean "knows
about as much about the South as a hog knows about Sunday," Democratic
Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia said on Sunday's "Meet the Press" -- part
of his talk-show tour to publicize his new book.
Miller was reacting to a statement made the day before by Dean, the
former governor of Vermont, that he wanted to appeal to Southerners
with Confederate battle flags on their pickup trucks.
Miller was on the show to explain the philosophy of his book, "A
National Party No More: The Conscience of a Conservative Democrat," as
well as answer to the many Democrats who question why he supports tax
cuts, the war with Iraq and other measures they view as Republican.
Miller said Dean's statement proves he knows little about people in
Georgia and other Southern states.
"That's the same kind of caricature that I write about in this book,"
Miller said. "I write about . . . in 1988 [Democratic presidential
candidate] Michael Dukakis coming to Georgia and having this rally,
and they had all these bales of hay stashed around here and there,
like it was some kind of set from the television show 'Hee Haw.'
That's not what the South is."
Instead, Miller said, the South is a progressive place where people
work hard and are concerned about making ends meet. "In Georgia, we
have several statewide elected officials who are African-American . .
.. they were being elected in a state that's 70 percent white," he
said. "This is not the South that Howard Dean thinks it is. Sure, we
drive pickups. But on the back of those pickups you see a lot of
American flags. It's the most patriotic region in the country. And you
see hardworking individuals that want to instill values in their
children."
Dean's statement has also been attacked by several of his presidential
rivals, who said the reference to Rebel flags sounded like an appeal
to racism.
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19 Nov 2003 08:08:15 AM |
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(Howard Beale) wrote in message news:<3024df75.0311181814.51170a97@posting.google.com>...
"Dixie" Dean + Confederates in Pickup Trucks Drag Blacks à la James
Byrd, Jr.
"Dixie" Dean Also Wants the Nazis with Swastikas Vote
Both Howard "Dixie" Dean and Dennis "Klanman" Kucinich have revealed
their true racist colors: "Dixie" Dean and "Klanman" Kucinic are
Conderates in pickup trucks who want to drag African-Americans to
their deaths à la James Byrd, Jr.
The Union won over a hundred years ago but "Dixie" Dean still refuses
to take down the Confederate flag and "Klanman" Kucinich has pandered
to racists with codewords like "elements east of the river" in
reference to African Americans of East Cleveland. See, e.g., Cleveland
Plain Dealer. 03/12/2003.
Howard "Dixie" Dean's ignorant, racist stereotypes are demeaning to
both blacks and whites in the New South. "Dixie" Dean and his
Confederate flags have no place in the New South or the White House.
CBS 60 Minutes. "Going Home To The South." 10/27/2002.
Children of many blacks who once fled the South and segregation are
now returning to find better lives than they had in the North.
Reporters who covered the civil rights revolution of the 1960s know
the bitterness felt by those who were back then known as Negroes -
bitterness at the humiliation inflicted on them by Southern whites.
As a result, millions fled North in search of jobs, education,
dignity.
But now, millions of their children are finding out that their best
chance of living the American Dream is in the South, in places like
the suburbs around Charlotte, North Carolina; Orlando, Florida;
Houston, Texas; and especially Atlanta, Georgia.
And ironically, while their parents and grandparents may have fought
for integration, many of them have chosen to live in all-black
communities.
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Black suburban Atlanta may look like Beverly Hills, but it's Mecca for
many new migrants who are buying homes worth from $200,000 to more
than $2 million. And new subdivisions keep sprouting, marketed
especially to blacks.
Jeff Moten and his wife, Wanda, were in the first wave of this new
migration. Ten years ago, they moved here from outside New York City.
Most of their neighbors are also former Northerners.
"I blazed a trail to get out of New York," says Moten. "I just wanted
a better way for my kids."
That better way includes a lower crime rate than up North, easy access
to athletic facilities and to the arts, and several performances a
week at Atlanta's Chastain Park -- which includes champagne, Chopin
and Nancy Wilson.
It's a marvelous life, one that more blacks can now afford. Black
buying power nationwide has doubled in the last decade. Half of all
black households are now middle and upper income. And more blacks are
graduating from high school and college so they're able to land better
jobs and buy better homes.
Moten's neighbors, Eduard and Shari Weathers, and Keith and Detra
Burrell said moving South brought them the promised land.
"My father used to always say, 'Stop asking for a piece of the pie.
Make your own damn pie.' And this is us making our own pie," says
Detra Burrell.
"This is what we have. This is what we want. We're no different from
anybody else. We want nice homes. All of us have college degrees here.
All of us have white-collar jobs. Why should we have to settle for
anything less than what we have?"
Their white-collar jobs include financial consultant, school
principal, Xerox executive and computer programmer. Plus, high-tech
jobs are attracting blacks and whites to the South. But for blacks,
it's coming back to their roots. Many who've moved South say they feel
they've come home. And more than 3.5 million came home in the '90s -
twice as many as came in the '80s.
They can also find good black public schools, and trendy bars and
cafes, where the only whites are behind the bar.
"My younger brother's in the Navy, in San Diego, and he was here for
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