Can you visualize Apostle Peter kneeling before a statue of Mary confessing his sins to it ?



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User: "old man joe"
Date: 14 Jun 2007 05:40:08 AM
Object: Can you visualize Apostle Peter kneeling before a statue of Mary confessing his sins to it ?
absurd, and quite contrary to all that is written in the Bible.
statues do not hear any more than the characters they're made to
represent. yet, just as the pagans of old who surrounded themselves
with many gods, there are those today who call themselves Christian
but pray to many gods, keeping statues of them, prostrating themselves
before these idols, summoning the characters they supposedly
represent.
demonology is built upon giving life and meaning to inanimate
representations of the things worshipped. the subject holds the view
that the idol character is superior to them and is of divine origin,
able to grant favors, remove sin; is present all the time listening,
watching, caring.
interestingly enough, these demon idols of plastic and plaster are
set out on lawns with the most adored idol sitting atop looking down
on it's subjects... models exactly similar to demon worship in
" High Places " spoken of so prominently in the Scriptures.
the people doing such things are certainly not students of the Bible
and doubtfully have ever read the Bible. this would mean that in Eph.
2:2 where the abode of Satan is " in " the sons of disobedience, he
has moved these to idol worship having taught them directly... these
do not know that " High Places " are the worship site of Satan other
than by revelation from him.
even if these did read their Bibles and find that Satan worship is
conducted in High Places, the practice would not be abandoned.
it must be concluded then, that the chief Papist in Rome is completely
under the subjection of Satan since he is the shinning example of the
shinning one, never repenting of the machinations so clearly spoken of
by God in the Holy Scriptures as sin.

************************************************
" believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved "
Acts 16:31
" and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed."
Acts 13:48
.

User: "SJAB1958"

Title: Re: Can you visualize Apostle Peter kneeling before a statue of Mary confessing his sins to it ? 14 Jun 2007 09:57:07 AM
On 14 Jun, 11:40, old man joe <n...@home.com> wrote:

absurd, and quite contrary to all that is written in the Bible.

statues do not hear any more than the characters they're made to
represent. yet, just as the pagans of old who surrounded themselves
with many gods, there are those today who call themselves Christian
but pray to many gods, keeping statues of them, prostrating themselves
before these idols, summoning the characters they supposedly
represent.

demonology is built upon giving life and meaning to inanimate
representations of the things worshipped. the subject holds the view
that the idol character is superior to them and is of divine origin,
able to grant favors, remove sin; is present all the time listening,
watching, caring.

As I understand things demonology is the study, belief in, or worship
of demons, and idolatry is the worship of graven images.
The two are utterly dissimilar, so how can you say they are one and
the same?


interestingly enough, these demon idols of plastic and plaster are
set out on lawns with the most adored idol sitting atop looking down
on it's subjects... models exactly similar to demon worship in
" High Places " spoken of so prominently in the Scriptures.

No, what you see in peoples gardens are ornaments in the form of
gnomes and the like, not one is carved to resemble a demon, and I sure
havent seen my neighbours worshipping them.

the people doing such things are certainly not students of the Bible
and doubtfully have ever read the Bible. this would mean that in Eph.
2:2 where the abode of Satan is " in " the sons of disobedience, he
has moved these to idol worship having taught them directly... these
do not know that " High Places " are the worship site of Satan other
than by revelation from him.

even if these did read their Bibles and find that Satan worship is
conducted in High Places, the practice would not be abandoned.
it must be concluded then, that the chief Papist in Rome is completely
under the subjection of Satan since he is the shinning example of the
shinning one, never repenting of the machinations so clearly spoken of
by God in the Holy Scriptures as sin.

Are you suggesting that the only worship that goes on in the 'High
Places' is Satanism?
Does that mean that Moses and other holy people mentioned in the Bible
as going into the 'High Places' were actually Satanists?


************************************************

" believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved "
Acts 16:31

" and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed."
Acts 13:48

.
User: "Atheist are Stooges"

Title: Re: Can you visualize Apostle Peter kneeling before a statue of Mary confessing his sins to it ? 14 Jun 2007 12:10:04 PM
"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1181833027.017053.147950@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

On 14 Jun, 11:40, old man joe <n...@home.com> wrote:

absurd, and quite contrary to all that is written in the Bible.

statues do not hear any more than the characters they're made to
represent. yet, just as the pagans of old who surrounded themselves
with many gods, there are those today who call themselves Christian
but pray to many gods, keeping statues of them, prostrating themselves
before these idols, summoning the characters they supposedly
represent.

demonology is built upon giving life and meaning to inanimate
representations of the things worshipped. the subject holds the view
that the idol character is superior to them and is of divine origin,
able to grant favors, remove sin; is present all the time listening,
watching, caring.


As I understand things demonology is the study, belief in, or worship
of demons, and idolatry is the worship of graven images.

The two are utterly dissimilar, so how can you say they are one and
the same?


interestingly enough, these demon idols of plastic and plaster are
set out on lawns with the most adored idol sitting atop looking down
on it's subjects... models exactly similar to demon worship in
" High Places " spoken of so prominently in the Scriptures.

No, what you see in peoples gardens are ornaments in the form of
gnomes and the like, not one is carved to resemble a demon, and I sure
havent seen my neighbours worshipping them.

the people doing such things are certainly not students of the Bible
and doubtfully have ever read the Bible. this would mean that in Eph.
2:2 where the abode of Satan is " in " the sons of disobedience, he
has moved these to idol worship having taught them directly... these
do not know that " High Places " are the worship site of Satan other
than by revelation from him.

even if these did read their Bibles and find that Satan worship is
conducted in High Places, the practice would not be abandoned.
it must be concluded then, that the chief Papist in Rome is completely
under the subjection of Satan since he is the shinning example of the
shinning one, never repenting of the machinations so clearly spoken of
by God in the Holy Scriptures as sin.


Are you suggesting that the only worship that goes on in the 'High
Places' is Satanism?

Does that mean that Moses and other holy people mentioned in the Bible
as going into the 'High Places' were actually Satanists?


************************************************

" believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved "
Acts 16:31

" and as many as had been appointed to eternal life, believed."
Acts 13:48


Don't ever ever buy into their claims that they are atheists.
They are militant anti-theists and there is a huge difference.
Although viewing themselves as "free thinkers", they all have a Party Line
they follow rather closely.
But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted
their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the
demons ...who believe more firmly in God's existence
than do Christians !
It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some
of the people who most solidly believe in God !
Ain't talking 'practical atheists' here ...those who don't
even think much about atheism. They're the true
atheists.
Professional atheists who've dedicated themselves
to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him.
They're the God-haters.
To which they'll invariably reply: 'How can we hate
something we don't believe in ?'.
Exactly ! It's their belief in God which drives them to
relentlessly attack Him.
Run of the mill, everyday 'practical atheists' don't
give God a second thought. They're the ones
I worry about.
Whereas militant atheists are fighting against the
innate knowledge of suppressed in their hearts.
As a militant atheist I can unequivocally state that there is no time in
your life that you
totally disbelieved in God. And -in fact- were driven to
work against the Lord by belief in Him !
It isn't that militant atheists don't believe God exists.
Instead: That they don't want God to exist.
So when debating don't ever buy into their *how can we believe in a sky
pixie* claim because they most certainly do though they will never admit it.
They have a fire and hatred in their hearts for God and that is what brings
them into religious newsgroups on a regular basis.
They want to destroy your faith like they have destroyed their own.
.
User: "R. Steve Walz"

Title: Re: Can you visualize Apostle Peter kneeling before a statue of Mary confessing his sins to it ? 14 Jun 2007 03:27:43 PM
Atheist are Stooges wrote:


Don't ever ever buy into their claims that they are atheists.
They are militant anti-theists and there is a huge difference.
Although viewing themselves as "free thinkers", they all have a Party Line
they follow rather closely.
But the militant atheists -the ones who have devoted
their lives to refuting Christianity- are almost like the
demons ...who believe more firmly in God's existence
than do Christians !
It can unequivocally be stated that militant atheists are some
of the people who most solidly believe in God !

---------------
You can state it all you want, but it is nonsense.
That's like saying that the police believe in crime just because they
are the ones who most heartily oppose it!!
It's illogical nonsense.

Ain't talking 'practical atheists' here ...those who don't
even think much about atheism. They're the true
atheists.

----------------
So then people who don't think at all are the True Atheists???
You seem to have a penchant for speaking nonsense.

Professional atheists who've dedicated themselves
to eradicating the Lord do so because they hate Him.
They're the God-haters.

-------------------------
You need not eradicate something you don't believe in,
because you don't have to.
But that's your only tiny crumb of sense here.
Atheists and others who attack your ignorant beliefs do so because
you are ignorant and wrong, and danage other human lives, and NOT
because you're right and they just don't like it for some reason.

To which they'll invariably reply: 'How can we hate
something we don't believe in ?'.
Exactly ! It's their belief in God which drives them to
relentlessly attack Him.

-----------------------
No, they believe that IDIOTS LIKE YOU believe in such ignorance,
and that you damage other human lives with it,
and THAT'S WHY they are out to stop you!
Steve
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