"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:12:37 -0500, "RS" <rswarts@bu.edu> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

I don't ask that you accept my faith, JW. I do, however, ask that you
extend common respect and dignity.

Let me try this a new way. You seem reasonably intelligent when we are
aren't discussing religion. You've had some nice things to say about
my family.

If you hadn't heard or figured it out by now, I am bi-polar.

I realized that already, though it doesn't interfere with my respect for you
as someone who is hearnestly seeking the truth.

That

diagnosis comes with a LONG list of symptoms, most of which I have.
Among them is that I tend to be VERY anti-social; and that I can't
tell when I am doing it. For which I might apologize, except that it's
not my fault, and I am tired of apologizing for it.

Don't apologize. Differences in opinion hardly ***** me off, and though
someone may lose their temper on occasion and say things they don't mean or
judge people in a way unbecoming of their true character, I do not hold it
against them.

Coupled with that

is that I have little memory, and I am also severely learning
disabled. So you could tell me 25 times that I'm _________ing, and
you're getting *****, but even if I understood, that doesn't mean
I'd be able to apply that knowledge or be able to do anything about
it.

I understand that. You haven't pissed me off. If you did, I would have
stopped talking to you. It takes alot to offend me, and even more so to
***** me off. I am, in fact, having some fun with this argument and it does
really strengthen my faith.

You are now left with 3 choices. Stop reading/responding. Treat me a
little more gently, and don't be so pushy; you aren't going to convert
or convince me.

I was responding to your claims against my faith (defending my faith). I am
not trying to convert you.

call you when and where he needs you.

Or keep being a jerk. At which point you'll merely

crank up my inborn animosity higher.

I would feel sorry to those who actually have to deal with you.

quite stubborn sometimes as well, and always end up apologizing for it
afterwards :)

In your eyes everything I say is wrong.

Not true. When I found you receptive to my discussions about my
family, I opened up as much as I dare in here.

When you go dogmatic about "what the Bible says, and how things are in
Christendom", you have a fight on your hands.

This is the Baptist

group, I go nowhere else, and so in here you are officially a "troll."

haha, do you realize, then, that you are cross-posting to a Catholic group?
(the only group I read). Though the conversations in here are tied between
"groups" they are all on one server. Your initial response was to the group
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic. I merely responded to you not
knowing what group you were initially responding from. In our group, you
are the "troll" :p

"j w @yahoo.com>" <j_w<no> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 01:12:37 -0500, "RS" <rswarts@bu.edu> wrote:
copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the
group)

I don't ask that you accept my faith, JW. I do, however, ask that you
extend common respect and dignity.

Let me try this a new way. You seem reasonably intelligent when we are
aren't discussing religion. You've had some nice things to say about
my family.

If you hadn't heard or figured it out by now, I am bi-polar.

I realized that already, though it doesn't interfere with my respect for you
as someone who is hearnestly seeking the truth.

That

diagnosis comes with a LONG list of symptoms, most of which I have.
Among them is that I tend to be VERY anti-social; and that I can't
tell when I am doing it. For which I might apologize, except that it's
not my fault, and I am tired of apologizing for it.

Don't apologize. Differences in opinion hardly ***** me off, and though
someone may lose their temper on occasion and say things they don't mean or
judge people in a way unbecoming of their true character, I do not hold it
against them.

Coupled with that

is that I have little memory, and I am also severely learning
disabled. So you could tell me 25 times that I'm _________ing, and
you're getting *****, but even if I understood, that doesn't mean
I'd be able to apply that knowledge or be able to do anything about
it.

I understand that. You haven't pissed me off. If you did, I would have
stopped talking to you. It takes alot to offend me, and even more so to
***** me off. I am, in fact, having some fun with this argument and it does
really strengthen my faith.

You are now left with 3 choices. Stop reading/responding. Treat me a
little more gently, and don't be so pushy; you aren't going to convert
or convince me.

I was responding to your claims against my faith (defending my faith). I am
not trying to convert you. It isn't in my authority to do so. God will
call you when and where he needs you.

Or keep being a jerk. At which point you'll merely

crank up my inborn animosity higher.

I would feel sorry to those who actually have to deal with you. I can be
quite stubborn sometimes as well, and always end up apologizing for it
afterwards :)

In your eyes everything I say is wrong.

Not true. When I found you receptive to my discussions about my
family, I opened up as much as I dare in here.

When you go dogmatic about "what the Bible says, and how things are in
Christendom", you have a fight on your hands.

This is the Baptist

group, I go nowhere else, and so in here you are officially a "troll."

haha, do you realize, then, that you are cross-posting to a Catholic group?
(the only group I read). Though the conversations in here are tied between
"groups" they are all on one server. Your initial response was to the group
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic. I merely responded to you not
knowing what group you were initially responding from. In our group, you
are the "troll" :p

You are NOT hear to get informed or born again; you are here
proselytizing.

The same could be said for you, though in different sense:
You are not here (in the catholic group) to be informed of what Catholic
doctrine teaches. You are here to attack what you think Catholic doctrine
to be.

No Christian or Baptist I am aware of appreciates Roman

Catholics proselytizing.

We are Christian as well. To deny that shows you to be outside of the
circle of Protestants and Catholics who have united under common ground
(Christ).

I have also told you repeatedly

1. I hate your cult, not you.

As I said "Hate-mongering" I never said it was against me. I find that
those who hate something only hate it because they do not understand it. As
my man yoda said "fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to
the Dark Side". If you are at hate, there must have been a fear, and many
great philosophers in the past have pointed out that fear originates in
mystery, and all fear is reflected in the unknown.

2. You will never convert me; I'd sooner take a bullet.

Not trying to convert you, just defending my faith :)

3. Not interested
4. Not interested
5. Not interested

Yet you continue to try to say the same old same old same old same old
a new way.

The same could be said about you. From your eyes, I am doing to you exactly
what from my eyes, you are doing to me. The difference, however, resides in
my reaching out to you to set aside our differences and find common-ground.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. You

are so blinded by your own arrogance that I believe you have never even
considered the possibility that you are wrong,

This is roughly the 10th time you've said this. Say something new or
shut up.

Look over your posts and realize that you have done the same exact thing.

I CONTINUE to say, "give me something better than what I have." I
consider your religion slavery on every level.

I am defending my faith. I have not heard you say "give me something better
than what I have." As for considering my religion slavery, I am but a
humble servant of the Lord. The Roman Catholic Church is in Christ (the
body of Christ). I cannot give you anything better than what God authorizes
me to give you. God has called me to give the truth to people. Whether God
calls them or not to hear the truth is up to God. In my eyes, the guidance
of the Church sets me free. I am sorry that you feel we are slaves to the
Vatican. We are not. If, however, you don't believe that, that isn't up to
me. It is up to God to call you to believe.

I have said exactly the opposite, and you now have like the 10th lie
on your record, just talking to me.

I have found many of your interpretations of scripture to be flawed and have
used only scripture and a pen and paper to analyze it. I analyze scripture
through the Holy Spirit who compels me to use my knowledge and skill as a
computer analyist and a religious student to extract from scripture what the
evangelist was attempting to explain. I have done so very successfully and,
in doing so, have found no violation of Catholic doctrine in regards to
scripture. I have repented and continue to approach my life with a heart of
repentence (though I am weak and still have certain sin disorders that I am
struggling with).

I repent under the eyes of God, not to you. It can stop merely if you stop
posting. If that be the case, then I will no longer cross post back to you,
but post only to the catholic groups who are recieving your messages.

In Him,

RS

Repent, and here it stops.

jw


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