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User: ""
Date: 26 Aug 2006 01:29:22 AM
Object: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX
My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn, or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.
My cousin has shown me his website stats, and I can say that people
from all over the world visit his website daily.
But this website irritates liars and deceivers like David Horn. David
Horn has a deep hatred against Jason Gastrich, Wolf, Weatherly and
other born again Christians that post on Usenet. This is only more
evidence that David Horn hates Christians of all stripes.
Angelo
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 28 Aug 2006 09:03:48 AM
<hornexposer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156573762.410398.137140@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn, or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.

Whatever - Go masturbate elsewhere, please.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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User: ""

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 01:37:03 AM
wrote:

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus.

Good grief. We're finally free from Gasbag, but the biddies in the
henhouse he founded still cackle at us from the Great Beyond. Here,
suckers...some free candy for you.
http://www.bibleinterp.com/commentary/Finkelstein_Silberman022001.htm
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http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
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Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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User: "Just Mark"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 04:36:23 PM
wrote:

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn, or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.

My cousin has shown me his website stats, and I can say that people
from all over the world visit his website daily.

But this website irritates liars and deceivers like David Horn. David
Horn has a deep hatred against Jason Gastrich, Wolf, Weatherly and
other born again Christians that post on Usenet. This is only more
evidence that David Horn hates Christians of all stripes.

Angelo

You call your cousin by his last name? That's odd.
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User: "Grinder"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 04:34:20 PM
Just Mark wrote:

hornexposer@yahoo.com wrote:

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn, or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.

My cousin has shown me his website stats, and I can say that people
from all over the world visit his website daily.

But this website irritates liars and deceivers like David Horn. David
Horn has a deep hatred against Jason Gastrich, Wolf, Weatherly and
other born again Christians that post on Usenet. This is only more
evidence that David Horn hates Christians of all stripes.
Angelo


You call your cousin by his last name? That's odd.

It might be more of a value judgement. Wolf, as in "wolf in sheep's
clothing," ie "Spiritual Terrorist."
.


User: "Dave"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 09:02:20 AM
wrote:

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn, or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.

As usual, Wolf continues to make things up as he goes along. Evidence
is not something that he needs. The exposure of a potential virus on
his site was actually done at the Internet Infidels board, and was
first brought to the attention of this group by another. I simply
responded in the thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/free.christians/browse_frm/thread/fb8ff57931e900d7?scoring=d&
And here is the link to the page for Wolf's debate at Internet
Infidels:
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=175842
If the reader scrolls through the commentary to the places where "CERM"
is referenced, he or she will note the red comments about the potential
virus at CERM. These comments were placed by the moderators. I am not
a moderator at Internet Infidels. I couldn't edit another post--not
even my own (after, I think, two hours) even were I so inclined.
I find it amusing that Wolf claims that I am so impotent and
unimportant that he not only has created all of these lies to "expose"
me, but he also seems to see me under the bed, as it were, whenever
something like this happens. Not all that long ago, Wolf had some
vandalism occur in his "guest book" at his site, and he tried to blame
me for *that*, too, as if I control the actions of every skeptic,
atheist, or agnostic who happens to wander to his site.
That I've become something of a boogey-man to some of these so-called
"Christians" is actually pretty gratifying. It means that, despite all
of the brave talk that they spew, I'm having an effect.

My cousin has shown me his website stats, and I can say that people
from all over the world visit his website daily.

Yeah, Gastrich makes those claims, too, but they don't address the
potential virus.

But this website irritates liars and deceivers like David Horn.

Again, not one lie or deception on my part has ever been shown, while
Wolf's continued lies are fast become commonplace.

David Horn has a deep hatred against Jason Gastrich, Wolf, Weatherly and
other born again Christians that post on Usenet. This is only more
evidence that David Horn hates Christians of all stripes.

Asked and answered. None of the "Christians" listed are truly
Christians, and I hate none of them. They are just characters on my
screen. The hate is unidirectional. They hate *me*, but I don't care,
and I don't whine about it. Frauds tend to hate the people who expose
them.
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User: "Dave"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 03 Sep 2006 09:49:17 PM
wrote:

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn, or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.

On the 26th, the day after the posting that we see above, Wolf posted a
retraction on the Internet Infidels site:
"Its a blessing to know that David Horn was not behind this 'virus
attack.'"
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?p=3703808#post3703808
Notice that neither Wolf nor his sock puppet had the courage to post
the retraction here, in Usenet, where he also made the accusation.
The day before yesterday, Wolf finally came out of hiding and posted
this whine at me at Internet Infidels:
http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?p=3721804#post3721804
"Horn my cousin did spend 2 months with me and did recently leave. Why
is this so hard to believe?"
The reasons that it was hard to believe have been posted, including
examples of multiple lies that Wolf has told recently and in the past.
Why is it so hard to believe, then? Well, perhaps it's because Wolf is
an unrepentant liar.
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User: "Dave"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 28 Aug 2006 01:39:13 AM
wrote:

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn...

Over on Internet Infidels, Wolf is forced to accept that I had nothing
to do with this issue. Here, he remains silent. There is no
retraction of his claims and innuendos. A Christian would, of course,
would generally not act as Wolf has, in the first place, but on being
shown to be wrong, a Christian would certainly publish a retraction.
Wolf didn't do that.

...or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.

Wolf's ministry is a fraud. It is not blessed by God. This may be why
it's a failure--YMMV. But it's hysterical to watch "Angelo" lie, make
threats, and boast about being a bully, while telling us that he is
capable of judging whether or not a "ministry" is blessed by God.
Regardless, this is another thread in which Wolf tells his lies, and
then never appears again, after they are exposed as lies.
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User: "Rod"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 07:34:50 PM
On 26-Aug-2006, hornexposer@yahoo.comspoke....:

But this website irritates liars and deceivers like David Horn. David
Horn has a deep hatred against Jason Gastrich, Wolf, Weatherly and
other born again Christians that post on Usenet. This is only more
evidence that David Horn hates Christians of all stripes.

Angelo

Perhaps he just dislikes fakes like your cousin John.....
Rod
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User: "SongBookz"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 07:51:01 PM
"Rod" <freelance74601@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156638232_10643@sp6iad.superfeed.net...



On 26-Aug-2006, hornexposer@yahoo.comspoke....:

But this website irritates liars and deceivers like David Horn. David
Horn has a deep hatred against Jason Gastrich, Wolf, Weatherly and
other born again Christians that post on Usenet. This is only more
evidence that David Horn hates Christians of all stripes.

Angelo


Perhaps he just dislikes fakes like your cousin John.....


I hate to tell Wolf this, but his website is barely a blip on the radar,
it's just another amateur website with crap plaigerized from other sites.
--
Terrell D Lewis
http://www.epigramz.com
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User: "Rod"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 03 Sep 2006 09:40:06 PM
On 26-Aug-2006, "SongBookz" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.net> wrote:

I hate to tell Wolf this, but his website is barely a blip on the radar,
it's just another amateur website with crap plaigerized from other sites.

Yea, it would hurt a fellers feelings some, and deflate his ego.
Rod
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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?e1do9nP2ZXZlcn0=?="

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 08:24:11 PM
SongBookz wrote:

I hate to tell Wolf this, but his website is barely a blip on the radar,
it's just another amateur website with crap plaigerized from other sites.

Geez, *I* haven't hated to tell him that at all...
;-)
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 26 Aug 2006 08:51:37 AM
On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:29:22 -0700, hornexposer wrote:

My cousin today received some PM's on a website and later in Usenet
that his website (www.cerm.info) has a virus. This is a hoax probably
crafted by Horn, or one of his buddies in an attempt to silence Wolf
and his God blessed ministry.

You know that's libel Wolf...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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User: "Tornado"

Title: Re: CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries VIRUS HOAX 27 Aug 2006 06:55:25 PM
The Many Identities of John Wolf (+CERM)
John's known aliases:
Name Address First used Notes
1 John Wolf
23-Jan-96
2 JWolf6589
13-Aug-98
3
07-July-01 Contributed
by a visitor to this page
4 John
15-Feb-02
5 Dude
15-Mar-02
6 charlie
15-Mar-02
7 diaper
15-Mar-02
8 Kelli78909
15-Mar-02
9 Billy6589
15-Mar-02
10 Mac User
18-Jun-03
11 Joseinmexico
03-Jul-03
12 Crucifyself03 crucifyself03@aol.comnojunk 10-Jul-03 Signed "Leo"
13 nospam
11-Jul-03
14 Leo Davidson aka John W
23-Jul-03
15 OSXis_1987
28-Jul-03 probably July 28-29 2003 only
16 Beach Boy
22-Aug-03
17 Leo crucifyself03@aol.comnojunk 23-Aug-03
18 Spider Eyes
23-Aug-03
19 Greenmamba9999
11-Sep-03
20 Frank G
5268 14-Sep-03
21 Bible Man John
30-Sep-03
22 Cool dude
18-Oct-03 Someone else used this
address 1998-99
23 Bible
07-Dec-03
24 Satanrules9666
06-Apr-04
25 Leo Davidson
08-Apr-04
26 Bill Nadar
12-Apr-04
27 Ironfist5687
15-Apr-04 Signed "Kurt," "Iron
Fist," "IronFist,"
"Kurt the Iron Fist," "Kur," & "John"
28 Leo Davidson
20-Apr-04
29 Richard Steven W.
21-Apr-04 Impersonating another user*
30 John Wolf
22-Apr-04
31 Richard Steven Walzed
22-Apr-04 Impersonating
another user*
32 Richard Steven Walz
22-Apr-04 Impersonating
another user*
33 Richard Steven Worm
24-Apr-04 Impersonating
another user*
34 George M. Feeley
25-Apr-04
35 Pinkbunny6789
26-Apr-04 Signed "Leah"
36 Billy Taylor
26-Apr-04
37 Big Brother
28-Apr-04
38 Bev A Kupf
29-Apr-04 Impersonating another user
39 Charlie
02-May-04
40 Eugene
05-May-04
41 Vote for George W.Bush
05-May-04
42 Richard Steven the Worm [Steve's actual address] 08-May-04
Impersonating another user*
43 Big Brother
17-May-04
44 Angiegisth
24-May-04 Signed "Angie"
45
23-June-04
Signed "brochus"
46 Jakemarshall0987
29-June-04 Signed "Jake"
47 Jack the Jerk
04-July-04 Signed "Jack"
48 John
20-July-04 Contributed by a visitor to
this page
49 John Wolf
21-Aug-04 An open and honest one!
50 Big Brother
23-Aug-04
51 John
30-Aug-04
52 nospamnospam.com nospamnospam.com 19-Feb-05
53 Bill
01-Mar-05
54 dearmike-dearmike-dearmike-dearmike
ikeafhddfdfdfdearmikedksfsk@dearmike.com 15-Mar-05
55 clintashdgsjdsj sick_dick_clinton_sdjedjkf
clintonfitch.clintonfitch.clintonfitch.fhdkjfhd@clintonthedick.mim
18-Mar-05
56 Shaalabbin son of Ithlah
14-Apr-05
57 Bible John
13-May-05
58 Bible John
19-Jun-05
59 Dr. Bible John
02-Jul-05
60 Chris Tilley - HPC:Factor [Chris's actual address] 02-Jul-05
Impersonating another user*
61 Shemp H
03-Jul-05
62 John the Baptist Jr.
06-Jan-06
63
18-May-06
64Angelo
26 Aug 06
and of course CERM
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