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You're quite welcome.
If you don't know my history, the first time I was molested
(raped), I was about 7. The last time, I was like 15. There were
probably half-a-dozen to a dozen incidents in between, but I don't
recall. So, if there was any doubt, I have ONE thing in my mind
when I see "child molester" in the news. "Give me a gun, leave me
alone with him, and I'll fix it."
I wouldn't give you month old dog ***** for a child molester!

The only way I'll ever "get closure" is to be let loose on those who
attacked me. "Good luck with that." I said MOST of the assaults I
don't even recall, but my therapist says THAT is because most were too
painful, and my mind simply erased those memories.

"Which is fine with me!"
Maybe joining one of the abuse

support groups will help.

No, because then I'd have to talk about it on a regular basis. I
choose not to. I'd prefer to move forward, but I mentioned it to let
you know the RAGE I feel at Steve over this!

I believe that the authorities DO monitor these groups

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Pastor Steve Winter wrote:

"Quartus, a brother to Stephen Adams"
<quartus_a_brother@yahoo.com> spake thusly and wrote:

Here's what I wrote:

"However, you were guilty of a crime

The false-christian scum Charles Stanley declares the publishers
of child porn to be innocent and declares me to be guilty for
reporting the crime!!!

I was not guilty of any crime!

Steve, I still believe that you committed a crime by having
porn in your possession, both moral and legal, but thats
my belief based on your statements, that doesn't make you guilty
of it !

Actually, Steve just admitted to ME (alluded) that the stories are
true.
If he "possessed child porn as a legal agent of the Federal courts"
(a self-appointed pro-tem "attorney"), that means he essentially
appointed himself.
And the US Supreme Court has made it QUITE clear-- as has the US Atty
Gen -- that REGARDLESS of expressed INTENT (how are the authorities
supposed to figure out one's INTENT), the MERE POSSESSION on one's
computer of images of child porn (either kids with kids, or adults
with kids) that MERE POSSESSION, for WHATEVER reason, is a felony!
That is, a FEDERAL felony.
In the Seattle area within the past couple of years, we had a ______
(Stupid Person) who was caught with a HUGE amount of child porn (I
believe I heard MULTIPLE CDs full (quantity unspecified)
He SAID he was "collecting it for law enforcement", only catch was,
law enforcement didn't know a thing about it.
He said he was "just about to down load it all onto CDs and take it
to the cops, but they got wind of his activities (?) and busted him
with a hard drive full of the garbage!
He was interrogated at LENGTH about "why?" and it was FINALLY
concluded that
#1 he had not MANUFACTURED it (no evidence of production, no video
cameras, no evidence that he knew any of the children) and those are
the BIG crimes
#2 he hadn't distributed any of it. Only HE had the images.
IT was finally determined that the guy was just plain THAT STUPID.
He was let go with a warning, "Don't even THINK about doing this
again! Leave it to the authorities!"
And-- as I just told Steve-- just because ONE guy who's as dumb as
a brick got away with it doesn't mean the next guy (Steve) will.
And there is no indication whatever that Steve was "appointed to the
courts" by anyone but himself.
If Steve gets off criminal prosecution for at LEAST being EXTREMELY
STUPID, he'll be only the 3rd person I know of. (there were 2 cases I
know of in Seattle, one made BIG news, so I gave some detail)

Steve simply is a person who plain and simple WILL NOT LISTEN TO
ANYONE.
Pray he's not producing it, if you believe you have information
that Steve IS producing it, or if you believe he continues to Have
child porn on his computer, contact the FBI.

john w

If you're truly not guilty then at least provide

some explanation of your actions to clarify the situation
and perhaps clear your name !

You have repeatedly done the same thing to several people
on usenet that is being done here to you, and you can
STOP it !


Charles Stanley continues to

publish malicious libel!!! I was an agent of the federal court!

In limited capacity only. I have found the federal statues
that demonstrate the limits you are under and the rules you
must abide by.

You tell US how you went about obtaining the evidence, what type
it was, and how you submitted it to the court. In return, I'll
publish the statutes that pertain to your position and you can
judge for yourself whether you are guilty or not. Agreed ?



Rod

Thank you John.

You're quite welcome.
If you don't know my history, the first time I was molested (raped),
I was about 7. The last time, I was like 15. There were probably
half-a-dozen to a dozen incidents in between, but I don't recall.
So, if there was any doubt, I have ONE thing in my mind when I see
"child molester" in the news. "Give me a gun, leave me alone with him,
and I'll fix it."
I wouldn't give you month old dog ***** for a child molester!

Please keep in mind that Steve hasn't been charged with any crime,
nor has evidence been presented that would bring him up on charges.

I have to remind myself of this, as I'm not exactly unbiased.

Well, understand that due to some remarks from the last few days, I am
no longer "trusting you". (it's a two-way street; you don't trust me,
I don't trust you). But what I have said is "old news." It's been
posted in here before.

And Steve may well BE charged now. I believe that the authorities DO
monitor these groups, but I plan (based on what YOU have said) to
forward his ADMISSIONS the past few days to the authorities.
You and I may not know where he is; I'm betting the FBI do.

One of those things I DESPISE with purple rage is someone who would
touch a child!
And I am crying yet again! It's a SORE subject to me.

I'm very sorry John.

Thanks, but you need not be! You didn't do anything on that level
to me!
But with YOU, it's a trust issue, and I don't trust you anymore.
When I tell the truth, I expect to be believed. MANY have taken a
2nd look when I explained that I am SEVERELY bi-polar, and there are
just certain aspects of human behavior (some "dos" and some "dont's")
I simply don't get.
I only know that my comment to the girl was "out of line' because 25
people piled on me about it. I learned by "majority vote", by which
time it was too late.


You haven't been able to heal, and perhaps

it's due to you needing closure.

The only way I'll ever "get closure" is to be let loose on those who
attacked me. "Good luck with that." I said MOST of the assaults I
don't even recall, but my therapist says THAT is because most were too
painful, and my mind simply erased those memories.
"Which is fine with me!"
Maybe joining one of the abuse

support groups will help.

No, because then I'd have to talk about it on a regular basis. I
choose not to. I'd prefer to move forward, but I mentioned it to let
you know the RAGE I feel at Steve over this!

I have periodic bouts of depression

when it gets close to March 31 and Christmas, and I spend some
time talking with them. The company I used to drive for would
usually pull me off the road in the middle of march and the last
part of December and send me home for a couple of weeks each month
to talk with a counselor. I've never known many formerly abused
children that didn't think they brought on their abuse by doing
something wrong, and I hope you're one of the few that understands
that you haven't.

Most certainly not. I was not raised in a home where I felt I had
to deny it. My issue was that the trauma was so severe as a child
that-- by the time I got home from being assaulted, I had quite
literally forgotten I'd been assaulted.
I'd walk into the house, my mother and father would KNOW something
had happened to me, cut lips, black swollen eyes, bloody noses. "What
happened to YOU?" And I wouldn't know what they were talking about.

I very seriously don't want harm to come to him

no matter how vengeful and angry I may sound at times. I would
rather that he just realize thru posts like yours that he was wrong
and correct his ways.

"Good luck with that!"
Frankly, between us, my money would be on the two-legged horse,
not on you / me getting through to Steve!

Steve hears that which pleases him most of the time. I've tried
and failed, but I had to make some effort for my own sake.

If you like beating a dead horse because it feels good to YOU, go
right ahead!
I think scripture is VERY clear on "wasting your efforts" which I
believe you are doing.
I believe what you are doing is:
Well, I've told Steve 100 times, and he didn't listen. Perhaps if
I tell him 50 MORE times...
James said "tell him a time or two, and then DROP it!"
So you are officially in a sin situation (also called stubbornness
and pride) over this.

I've known him roughly 10 YEARS-- and he's NEVER been receptive to
anything but, "You're right about THAT, Steve!"
That bondage to self-- by the way -- is a symptom of demon
possession.
It's also a symptom of megalomania "The God Complex." I've known a
number of folks with The God Complex. John Hennekes seems to have it
(John H), my son's grand father has it.