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"martus" |
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24 Feb 2004 01:22:25 AM |
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Christian(?) theologians sowing doubt! |
DOUBTS
Matthew 13:1-9 (NRSV)
13 That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat beside the sea. 2
Such great crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and sat
there, while the whole crowd stood on the beach. 3 And he told them
many things in parables, saying: "Listen! A sower went out to sow. 4
And as he sowed, some seeds fell on the path, and the birds came and
ate them up. 5 Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not
have much soil, and they sprang up quickly, since they had no depth of
soil. 6 But when the sun rose, they were scorched; and since they had
no root, they withered away. 7 Other seeds fell among thorns, and the
thorns grew up and choked them. 8 Other seeds fell on good soil and
brought forth grain, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. 9
Let anyone with ears listen!"
Matthew 13:18-23 (NRSV)
The Parable of the Sower Explained
18 "Hear then the parable of the sower. 19 When anyone hears the word
of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and
snatches away what is sown in the heart; this is what was sown on the
path. 20 As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who
hears the word and immediately receives it with joy; 21 yet such a
person has no root, but endures only for a while, and when trouble or
persecution arises on account of the word, that person immediately
falls away. 22 As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who
hears the word, but the cares of the world and the lure of wealth
choke the word, and it yields nothing. 23 But as for what was sown on
good soil, this is the one who hears the word and understands it, who
indeed bears fruit and yields, in one case a hundredfold, in another
sixty, and in another thirty."
Concluding Remarks
Faith in God requires a person to keep digging into the Word of God to
understand God better so that they can fend off the devil when he
tries to destroy that God spark that was created in them by the Word
of God.
Doubts, persecutions, the love of the world and its riches are ploys
the Devil uses to destroy a persons faith but the thing that I wish to
focus on is doubts, as it is the least obvious but by far the most
destructive in extinguishing people's faith.
The faithless theologians who study Christianity, which from this
point will be referred to as atheist historians, are motivated by
everything else but God. With their degrees and the backing of those
that oppose God they produce destructive one sided programs and
materials which either cast doubt on Jesus or the books of the bible.
People are influenced into doubt by these theological degree holding
atheist historians to their own destruction. To illustrate my points I
will play the part of an atheist historian in analysing the 9-11
tragedy.
A.H. (atheist historian) : The 9-11 incident did not occur because the
reporter was no where in that vicinity and he does not know the lay
out of the city so the whole story was a fabrication.
C (commentary): Just because the A.H. thinks the reporter was not at
the incident and made an error in a particular landmark does not mean
that the story was a fabrication as their were a whole lot of eye
witness that saw the incident.
A.H.: The story has been added to and the additions should not be
allowed.
C: When something important has happened the first thing is to get the
news out, more details are added later to fill in the gaps in the
original report.
A.H. With all these inconsistencies and additions 9-11 obviously did
not occur.
C: The details and the additions might not be 100% correct between
each witness who told their story of what happened to the reporter who
finally wrote down the detailed report but you can bet your life that
all will remember the life changing unbelievable event of two jumbos
running into two skyscrapers causing them to collapse to the ground.
It is the unbelievable, out of the ordinary, supernatural events that
people remember in great detail and not so much the lesser events
surrounding them.
Let the Word of God sink deep within your hearts and nourish it with
the continuous study and application of the Word in your lives so that
your knowledge and faith will touch others to begin their quest into
devoting their lives to the Creator of all things and not to the
destroyer who perverts all good things.
In this way the children of God bear fruit by helping others in their
search to find God.
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End times:
http://www.geocities.com/mart1963/
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| User: "John Ings" |
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| Title: Re: Christian(?) theologians sowing doubt! |
24 Feb 2004 04:59:12 AM |
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On 23 Feb 2004 23:22:25 -0800, (martus) wrote:
Faith in God requires a person to keep digging into the Word of God to
understand God better
How can one possibly understand God, even one tiny iota?
The first step would be to identify God. How are we to go about that?
so that they can fend off the devil when he
tries to destroy that God spark that was created in them by the Word
of God.
How are we to identify the Devil or any other supernatural spook?
Doubts, persecutions, the love of the world and its riches are ploys
the Devil uses to destroy a persons faith but the thing that I wish to
focus on is doubts, as it is the least obvious but by far the most
destructive in extinguishing people's faith.
Most faith must be extinguished, if any be true. If Christian faith is
correct then the Muslim's and the Hindu's is wrong. And Christianity
itself is sectarian and always has been, so whose faith are you
talking about?
The faithless theologians who study Christianity, which from this
point will be referred to as atheist historians, are motivated by
everything else but God.
Things like honest scholarship.
With their degrees and the backing of those
that oppose God they produce destructive one sided programs and
materials which either cast doubt on Jesus or the books of the bible.
Now show us that this is wrong.
People are influenced into doubt by these theological degree holding
atheist historians to their own destruction.
According to your theology. But where's your evidence?
To illustrate my points I
will play the part of an atheist historian in analysing the 9-11
tragedy.
That's comparing apples and oranges. People reporting on the 9-11
tragedy aren't proslytizing a religion. They aren't making up miracles
and phony prophecies to wow prospective converts.
A.H. (atheist historian) : The 9-11 incident did not occur because the
reporter was no where in that vicinity and he does not know the lay
out of the city so the whole story was a fabrication.
No such argument would be made in the case of 9-11 since the names of
the reporters are known, and we have video and still pictures of the
event, and hundreds of affadavits from known witnesses.
A.H.: The story has been added to and the additions should not be
allowed.
C: When something important has happened the first thing is to get the
news out, more details are added later to fill in the gaps in the
original report.
But when the additions are miracles, and new theology; when a central
participant is changed in the narrative from a human into a deity,
it's time to start asking questions and having doubts. Especially in
view of the motivations of the reporters.
A.H. With all these inconsistencies and additions 9-11 obviously did
not occur.
In the case of the NT, probably the additions did not occur, but the
report is likely founded on a real event. There is little doubt that
Pilate executed a Jewish holy man for treason. But was he God?
C: The details and the additions might not be 100% correct between
each witness who told their story of what happened to the reporter who
finally wrote down the detailed report but you can bet your life that
all will remember the life changing unbelievable event of two jumbos
running into two skyscrapers causing them to collapse to the ground.
But in Jerusalem in the 1st century, nobody noticed. That's just the
point. There were all sorts of people around whom one would expect to
have at least reported on rumours of miracles, but there is not a word
of any such events outside the New Testament.
It is the unbelievable, out of the ordinary, supernatural events that
people remember in great detail
And nobody did. Nobody! That's because the miracles are fictions made
up later to compete with the miracles being fabricated by rival
religions.
Let the Word of God sink deep within your hearts and nourish it with
the continuous study and application of the Word in your lives
And thus create more intolerance and hatred and religious strife of
the sort that Christianity has troubled the world with for nearly two
milennia.
In this way the children of God bear fruit by helping others in their
search to find God.
And cause men to hate one another as a result of believing a pack of
lies told centuries ago by persons unknown.
http://www.geocities.com/mart1963/
And new lies on sites like that one.
## Second coming? I don't believe he came the first time!
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| User: "William" |
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| Title: Re: Christian(?) theologians sowing doubt! |
24 Feb 2004 03:14:28 AM |
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On 23 Feb 2004 23:22:25 -0800, (martus) wrote:
[snip]
Faith in God requires a person to keep digging into the Word of God to
understand God better so that they can fend off the devil when he
tries to destroy that God spark that was created in them by the Word
of God.
Doubts, persecutions, the love of the world and its riches are ploys
the Devil uses to destroy a persons faith
You admit to doubts! Good. Do you doubt the truth of the above
statement? If not, why not?
but the thing that I wish to
focus on is doubts, as it is the least obvious but by far the most
destructive in extinguishing people's faith.
The faithless theologians who study Christianity, which from this
point will be referred to as atheist historians, are motivated by
everything else but God.
Please explain how you know such theologians are atheists. If you
cannot show that they all deny the existence of God (any God) you have
committed the sin of bearing false witness and slander. A very serious
sin. But perhaps you don't believe that part of the bible.
William
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