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14 Dec 2004 08:43:09 PM |
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Consulting the dead. |
The Bible condemns necromancy (consulting the dead).
Prayers to "saints" who have died are sinful.
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Let there not be found among you anyone who immolates his son or daughter in
the fire, nor a fortune-teller, soothsayer, charmer, diviner, or caster of
spells, nor one who consults ghosts and spirits or seeks oracles from the
dead. (Deuteronomy 18:10-11)
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When Jesus' disciples asked him how they were to pray, Jesus didn't tell
them to consult dead "saints." He told them to pray directly to God, their
Father (Luke 11:1-4).
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
18 Jul 2005 09:45:55 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:15:39 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> done
went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet
News'FROUPS:
I've already showed you where "ordinances" is restricted to some bibles, but not
all.
Dream on. You insisted that the very word 'ORDINANCES' was not even IN
the Bible, and I had to correct you.
Irregardless, the definitional word is not important, but the action is
everything. And all 7 are in the bible.
That should be REGARDLESS -- there is no such word as 'irregardless'.
And the '7-ordinances' bit is nothing BUT romanist.
The wording you use in your false 'hail Mary' is also stolen from
several different areas of the Bible, but that doesn't make raying to
her proper.
Better luck next time. You're starting to embarrass your fellow Baptists, doc.
duke
I don't need 'luck'.
I know the Bible, and you don't fool me.
But may God bless you regardless of your ignorance.
Doc
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JESUS IS THE ROCK
God doesn't call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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Please visit http://www.romath.com/
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
19 Jul 2005 06:14:55 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:45:55 -0400, "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!"
<Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
I've already showed you where "ordinances" is restricted to some bibles, but not
all.
Dream on. You insisted that the very word 'ORDINANCES' was not even IN
the Bible, and I had to correct you.
Read my lips again, doc - the word "ordinances" is not found in some bibles.
Hence it is a specific translation that has it.
Irregardless, the definitional word is not important, but the action is
everything. And all 7 are in the bible.
That should be REGARDLESS -- there is no such word as 'irregardless'.
And the '7-ordinances' bit is nothing BUT romanist.
Uh, actually it is Christian, doc.
The wording you use in your false 'hail Mary' is also stolen from
several different areas of the Bible, but that doesn't make raying to
her proper.
I don't "ray" to Mary. But I do pray to her. And how does one "steal" from the
bible? Answer - the same as your word "ordinances". And, the bible is the
bible, and the truth is found throughout the bible, not in one sentence or
paragraph. Truth is truth, doc. I know you don't understand that, but it's
true.
Jesus gave us the 7 actions in which our sanctifying grace is increased - ie,
doing what God calls us to.
I don't need 'luck'.
I know the Bible, and you don't fool me.
Then why do you reject so many of the words of Jesus?
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "CB" |
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02 Apr 2005 10:35:35 PM |
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:12:25 -0800, Jerry Patterson <jerry@dslextreme.com>
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:13:28 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:04:12 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
Did you check into that URL I posted to you concerning the false
prayers to Mary in that thing they call 'The Little Office'???
I'm willing to bet you just ignored it.
JP
Have you ever heard of intercessary prayer; like The Blessed Mother
asking Jesus to work a miracle for the married couple at Wedding Feast
in Cana?
That was a prayer?
Because if you HAD checked into it.... you would have seen for
yourself how they have elevated her to Jesus' literal status...
especially where they say to her:
"Unto YOU do I flee"
"I offer you my very life, my soul"
"Grant that I may be dsaved"
" I offer myself as your slave."
JP
It seems that perhaps you have not heard of intercessory prayer.
Please provide Scripture.
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Blessings,
Jerry
"Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance."
Author Unknown
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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03 Apr 2005 05:55:34 AM |
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On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 22:35:35 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com> sez
the following funny stuff:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:12:25 -0800, Jerry Patterson <jerry@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:13:28 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:04:12 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
Did you check into that URL I posted to you concerning the false
prayers to Mary in that thing they call 'The Little Office'???
I'm willing to bet you just ignored it.
JP
Have you ever heard of intercessary prayer; like The Blessed Mother
asking Jesus to work a miracle for the married couple at Wedding Feast
in Cana?
That was a prayer?
According to Jerry, he seems to imagine it was!!!
How absurd.
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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28 Mar 2005 11:08:37 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:04:12 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
It is not an excuse to attack other Christian
sects or other religions.
Speaking for myself, I need no 'excuse'.
I attack the false teachings of the romanc catholic denominaiton
BECAUSE IT LEADS PEOPLE ASTRAY.
Not wanting to see anyone land in Hell, naturally, I will speak out
against its false doctrines.
If you don't know the history behind that thing, and why so many of us
DO speak out against it, then why do you ridicule those of us who
expose that denomination for what it is?
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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28 Mar 2005 10:45:54 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:45:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
According to that logic, it appears anyone who can perform some kind
of miraculous act is considered God or god by you. I don't. I
recognize that many angels of God can perform miracles, among them,
there are even dark angels. I don't consider any of them God or gods.
And you are correct there, Eric.
ONLY the Lord is to be worshiped. not any fellow human being, not the
angels, not Mary- ONLY the Lord.
The Bible tells us plainly:
Deu 6:13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God, and serve him, and shalt
swear by his name.
Deu 8:19 And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the LORD thy God,
and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify
against you this day that ye shall surely perish.
Deu 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and
keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and
cleave unto him.
Jos 24:16 And the people answered and said, God forbid that we should
forsake the LORD, to serve other gods;
1Sa 12:24 Only fear the LORD, and serve him in truth with all your
heart: for consider how great things he hath done for you.
1Ch 16:29 Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name: bring an
offering, and come before him: worship the LORD in the beauty of
holiness.
Psa 95:6 O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel before the
LORD our make
Psa 97:7 Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast
themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.
Psa 99:5 Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; for
he is holy.
Isa 2:8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of
their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:
Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines
the commandments of men.
Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers
shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father
seeketh such to worship him.
Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause
divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned;
and avoid them.
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but
their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the
hearts of the simple.
Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me,
Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him
only shalt thou serve.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none
other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth:
for I am God, and there is none else.
also:
Rev 9:20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these
plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should
not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and
stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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27 Mar 2005 11:54:03 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world.
MORE false teaching.
The angels are not to be prayed to or worshiped.
It proves again how little you iunderstand, yet you wander in here and
try to instruct us!
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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27 Mar 2005 12:48:03 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:54:03 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world.
MORE false teaching.
The angels are not to be prayed to or worshiped.
It proves again how little you iunderstand, yet you wander in here and
try to instruct us!
Now you have to define worship. When the love of Jesus Christ passes
through you and saves my life, and I bow down in front of you for
receiving such love. Am I worshipping you? Am I not even allowed to
express myself?
When I bow down in front of you, I bow to the Christ in you. When I
pray to you, I pray to the Christ in you. You are the body of Christ,
are you not? then why am I not allowed to pay my respect to you?
:-)
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| User: "icono" |
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27 Mar 2005 04:27:55 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:4sud41pkokfufbmkk8cl0ssd13guotln1d@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:54:03 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world.
MORE false teaching.
The angels are not to be prayed to or worshiped.
It proves again how little you iunderstand, yet you wander in here and
try to instruct us!
Now you have to define worship. When the love of Jesus Christ passes
through you and saves my life, and I bow down in front of you for
receiving such love. Am I worshipping you? Am I not even allowed to
express myself?
I owe you an appolgy. I was assuming that you were fluent in English. What
is your native tongue?
One ONLY "worships" God the Father or some other god.
When I bow down in front of you, I bow to the Christ in you. When I
pray to you, I pray to the Christ in you. You are the body of Christ,
are you not? then why am I not allowed to pay my respect to you?
:-)
Man, where did you take the course in pedantic semantics. You wrote two
paragraphs that argue logically within themselves and each other.
What is your native language?
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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27 Mar 2005 07:27:54 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:27:55 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:4sud41pkokfufbmkk8cl0ssd13guotln1d@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:54:03 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world.
MORE false teaching.
The angels are not to be prayed to or worshiped.
It proves again how little you iunderstand, yet you wander in here and
try to instruct us!
Now you have to define worship. When the love of Jesus Christ passes
through you and saves my life, and I bow down in front of you for
receiving such love. Am I worshipping you? Am I not even allowed to
express myself?
I owe you an appolgy. I was assuming that you were fluent in English. What
is your native tongue?
One ONLY "worships" God the Father or some other god.
When I bow down in front of you, I bow to the Christ in you. When I
pray to you, I pray to the Christ in you. You are the body of Christ,
are you not? then why am I not allowed to pay my respect to you?
:-)
Man, where did you take the course in pedantic semantics. You wrote two
paragraphs that argue logically within themselves and each other.
What is your native language?
What is the problem? I admit my English is not good, but I suspect
that is not the problem in this case. If you truly can't understand
what I wrote above, then I applogize please discard it and move on.
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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28 Mar 2005 10:31:26 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:48:03 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
Now you have to define worship. When the love of Jesus Christ passes
through you and saves my life, and I bow down in front of you for
receiving such love. Am I worshipping you? Am I not even allowed to
express myself?
When I bow down in front of you, I bow to the Christ in you. When I
pray to you, I pray to the Christ in you. You are the body of Christ,
are you not? then why am I not allowed to pay my respect to you?
:-)
I don't need to be worshiped, nor am I worthy OF being worshiped.
I'm not even an ANGEL, and they are not to be worshiped.
My 'payment of respects' would be in seeing another person turning to
Christ, and away from idolatry, false teachings, etc..... from
damnation to salvation.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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28 Mar 2005 01:26:08 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 11:31:26 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:48:03 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
Now you have to define worship. When the love of Jesus Christ passes
through you and saves my life, and I bow down in front of you for
receiving such love. Am I worshipping you? Am I not even allowed to
express myself?
When I bow down in front of you, I bow to the Christ in you. When I
pray to you, I pray to the Christ in you. You are the body of Christ,
are you not? then why am I not allowed to pay my respect to you?
:-)
I don't need to be worshiped, nor am I worthy OF being worshiped.
Doesn't matter what you need. What are you going to do now? Condemn
me?
I'm not even an ANGEL, and they are not to be worshiped.
Sometimes, it's very hard to distinguish between respect and worship.
My 'payment of respects' would be in seeing another person turning to
Christ, and away from idolatry, false teachings, etc..... from
damnation to salvation.
Then you should not reject my respect in the form of worship.
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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28 Mar 2005 02:34:34 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:26:08 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I don't need to be worshiped, nor am I worthy OF being worshiped.
Doesn't matter what you need. What are you going to do now? Condemn
me?
I am not saying it matters 'what I need' - nor am I condemning you. I
am merely setting you strsight. I AM NOT WORTHY OF BEING WORSHIPED.
I am a mere human being,
I'm not even an ANGEL, and they are not to be worshiped.
Sometimes, it's very hard to distinguish between respect and worship.
My 'payment of respects' would be in seeing another person turning to
Christ, and away from idolatry, false teachings, etc..... from
damnation to salvation.
Then you should not reject my respect in the form of worship.
NO ONE is to worship me. I am not GOD.
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| User: "" |
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27 Mar 2005 10:13:06 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:20:20 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
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No, if I say Mary can hear me, I'm saying she can hear me through the
spirit of God. It's the spirit of God that is omnipresent.
It's up to you. Do you believe Mary is omnipresent (a god)?
No, I don't think she is omnipresent, but I do believe she is the
saint.
If she is not omnipresent, she can't hear you.
I gave you my reasons why she can hear me without being omnipresent.
No you didn't. You said she could hear you. Are you saying that she can
only hear you or everybody who speak (Prays) to her. You only = not
omnipresent. Everyone = omnipresent.
Which is it?
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world. How? They hear us through the Spirit of
God. In this world, because we are separated from God, each one of us
becomes isolated individual alone and helpless. In the world of God,
no one is separated from anyone, everyone is interconnected through
God's Spirit. Just because God's angels can hear us, doesn't mean
God's angels are omnipresent. In the case of Mary, mother of Jesus, it
is the same thing. Get it?
Eric, may I ask who taught you this?
You claim that Mary can hear you through the Spirit of God (Holy
Ghost), but we are alone because we are separated from God. So how do
you explain then when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and the
Holy Ghost enters us we are separated from God? Also how do you
explain Jesus's statement in Matthew 28:20 "and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to
the very end of the age."
If you claim we are separated from God, then we are also separated
from Jesus, (who was/is God in the flesh), and that would make His
statement a lie. Which in turn would make Christianity a lie.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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27 Mar 2005 11:16:18 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:13:06 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:20:20 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
snip
No, if I say Mary can hear me, I'm saying she can hear me through the
spirit of God. It's the spirit of God that is omnipresent.
It's up to you. Do you believe Mary is omnipresent (a god)?
No, I don't think she is omnipresent, but I do believe she is the
saint.
If she is not omnipresent, she can't hear you.
I gave you my reasons why she can hear me without being omnipresent.
No you didn't. You said she could hear you. Are you saying that she can
only hear you or everybody who speak (Prays) to her. You only = not
omnipresent. Everyone = omnipresent.
Which is it?
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world. How? They hear us through the Spirit of
God. In this world, because we are separated from God, each one of us
becomes isolated individual alone and helpless. In the world of God,
no one is separated from anyone, everyone is interconnected through
God's Spirit. Just because God's angels can hear us, doesn't mean
God's angels are omnipresent. In the case of Mary, mother of Jesus, it
is the same thing. Get it?
Eric, may I ask who taught you this?
You claim that Mary can hear you through the Spirit of God (Holy
Ghost), but we are alone because we are separated from God. So how do
you explain then when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and the
Holy Ghost enters us we are separated from God?
In reality, nobody is separated from God. It's because our human mind
has fallen from grace, we only "think" we are separated from God. In
my previous post, I was not talking about the Holy Spirit. I was
talking about the omnipresent God's spirit. Please don't confuse the
issue.
Also how do you
explain Jesus's statement in Matthew 28:20 "and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to
the very end of the age."
Since no one is truly separated from God, I think it's easy to
understand why Jesus said that he was with us always.
If you claim we are separated from God, then we are also separated
from Jesus, (who was/is God in the flesh), and that would make His
statement a lie. Which in turn would make Christianity a lie.
Actually, the separation from God is only a delusion of our human
mind. In this universe, nothing can exist if separated from God. The
fact that we are here alive occupying a part of space and the
knowledge that God is omnipresent in the whole universe, proves we are
not separated from God.
Therefore, Jesus was not lying, and Christianity is not a lie.
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| User: "" |
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27 Mar 2005 04:01:12 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:16:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:13:06 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:20:20 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
snip
No, if I say Mary can hear me, I'm saying she can hear me through the
spirit of God. It's the spirit of God that is omnipresent.
It's up to you. Do you believe Mary is omnipresent (a god)?
No, I don't think she is omnipresent, but I do believe she is the
saint.
If she is not omnipresent, she can't hear you.
I gave you my reasons why she can hear me without being omnipresent.
No you didn't. You said she could hear you. Are you saying that she can
only hear you or everybody who speak (Prays) to her. You only = not
omnipresent. Everyone = omnipresent.
Which is it?
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world. How? They hear us through the Spirit of
God. In this world, because we are separated from God, each one of us
becomes isolated individual alone and helpless. In the world of God,
no one is separated from anyone, everyone is interconnected through
God's Spirit. Just because God's angels can hear us, doesn't mean
God's angels are omnipresent. In the case of Mary, mother of Jesus, it
is the same thing. Get it?
Eric, may I ask who taught you this?
You claim that Mary can hear you through the Spirit of God (Holy
Ghost), but we are alone because we are separated from God. So how do
you explain then when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and the
Holy Ghost enters us we are separated from God?
In reality, nobody is separated from God. It's because our human mind
has fallen from grace, we only "think" we are separated from God. In
my previous post, I was not talking about the Holy Spirit. I was
talking about the omnipresent God's spirit. Please don't confuse the
issue.
Sorry if you thought I was confusing the issue. Well the Holy Spirit
and as you say the omnipresent God's spirit are one and the same are
they not?
Also how do you
explain Jesus's statement in Matthew 28:20 "and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to
the very end of the age."
Since no one is truly separated from God, I think it's easy to
understand why Jesus said that he was with us always.
If you claim we are separated from God, then we are also separated
from Jesus, (who was/is God in the flesh), and that would make His
statement a lie. Which in turn would make Christianity a lie.
Actually, the separation from God is only a delusion of our human
mind. In this universe, nothing can exist if separated from God. The
fact that we are here alive occupying a part of space and the
knowledge that God is omnipresent in the whole universe, proves we are
not separated from God.
Yes we are alive here on earth. And God makes it rain on the just and
the unjust alike. But if you do not believe in God (I do), and have
not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior (I have), then you
are separated from God. Because God cannot look on sin, and all have
sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. And the wages of sin is
Death. Because of Jesus, we have the choice to defeat death. He will
not force it on us, we have to make that decision. In other words, our
decision will decide if we are separated from God or not.
Therefore, Jesus was not lying, and Christianity is not a lie.
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
27 Mar 2005 07:19:49 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:01:12 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:16:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:13:06 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:20:20 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
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No, if I say Mary can hear me, I'm saying she can hear me through the
spirit of God. It's the spirit of God that is omnipresent.
It's up to you. Do you believe Mary is omnipresent (a god)?
No, I don't think she is omnipresent, but I do believe she is the
saint.
If she is not omnipresent, she can't hear you.
I gave you my reasons why she can hear me without being omnipresent.
No you didn't. You said she could hear you. Are you saying that she can
only hear you or everybody who speak (Prays) to her. You only = not
omnipresent. Everyone = omnipresent.
Which is it?
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world. How? They hear us through the Spirit of
God. In this world, because we are separated from God, each one of us
becomes isolated individual alone and helpless. In the world of God,
no one is separated from anyone, everyone is interconnected through
God's Spirit. Just because God's angels can hear us, doesn't mean
God's angels are omnipresent. In the case of Mary, mother of Jesus, it
is the same thing. Get it?
Eric, may I ask who taught you this?
You claim that Mary can hear you through the Spirit of God (Holy
Ghost), but we are alone because we are separated from God. So how do
you explain then when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and the
Holy Ghost enters us we are separated from God?
In reality, nobody is separated from God. It's because our human mind
has fallen from grace, we only "think" we are separated from God. In
my previous post, I was not talking about the Holy Spirit. I was
talking about the omnipresent God's spirit. Please don't confuse the
issue.
Sorry if you thought I was confusing the issue. Well the Holy Spirit
and as you say the omnipresent God's spirit are one and the same are
they not?
Of course God is always one and only, but I was not talking about the
Holy Spirit as a deity. I think that is quite obvious.
Also how do you
explain Jesus's statement in Matthew 28:20 "and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to
the very end of the age."
Since no one is truly separated from God, I think it's easy to
understand why Jesus said that he was with us always.
If you claim we are separated from God, then we are also separated
from Jesus, (who was/is God in the flesh), and that would make His
statement a lie. Which in turn would make Christianity a lie.
Actually, the separation from God is only a delusion of our human
mind. In this universe, nothing can exist if separated from God. The
fact that we are here alive occupying a part of space and the
knowledge that God is omnipresent in the whole universe, proves we are
not separated from God.
Yes we are alive here on earth. And God makes it rain on the just and
the unjust alike. But if you do not believe in God (I do), and have
not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior (I have), then you
are separated from God. Because God cannot look on sin, and all have
sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. And the wages of sin is
Death. Because of Jesus, we have the choice to defeat death. He will
not force it on us, we have to make that decision. In other words, our
decision will decide if we are separated from God or not.
That is you think you can make a decision on your own. To me, I would
rather God makes that decision for me. Very much simpler and easier
than your choice, isn't it?
Therefore, Jesus was not lying, and Christianity is not a lie.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
27 Mar 2005 08:55:10 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:19:49 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:01:12 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:16:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:13:06 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 03:55:18 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:20:20 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
snip
No, if I say Mary can hear me, I'm saying she can hear me through the
spirit of God. It's the spirit of God that is omnipresent.
It's up to you. Do you believe Mary is omnipresent (a god)?
No, I don't think she is omnipresent, but I do believe she is the
saint.
If she is not omnipresent, she can't hear you.
I gave you my reasons why she can hear me without being omnipresent.
No you didn't. You said she could hear you. Are you saying that she can
only hear you or everybody who speak (Prays) to her. You only = not
omnipresent. Everyone = omnipresent.
Which is it?
There is only God who is omnipresent, but all God's angels can hear me
and everybody in this world. How? They hear us through the Spirit of
God. In this world, because we are separated from God, each one of us
becomes isolated individual alone and helpless. In the world of God,
no one is separated from anyone, everyone is interconnected through
God's Spirit. Just because God's angels can hear us, doesn't mean
God's angels are omnipresent. In the case of Mary, mother of Jesus, it
is the same thing. Get it?
Eric, may I ask who taught you this?
You claim that Mary can hear you through the Spirit of God (Holy
Ghost), but we are alone because we are separated from God. So how do
you explain then when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior and the
Holy Ghost enters us we are separated from God?
In reality, nobody is separated from God. It's because our human mind
has fallen from grace, we only "think" we are separated from God. In
my previous post, I was not talking about the Holy Spirit. I was
talking about the omnipresent God's spirit. Please don't confuse the
issue.
Sorry if you thought I was confusing the issue. Well the Holy Spirit
and as you say the omnipresent God's spirit are one and the same are
they not?
Of course God is always one and only, but I was not talking about the
Holy Spirit as a deity. I think that is quite obvious.
Also how do you
explain Jesus's statement in Matthew 28:20 "and teaching them to obey
everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to
the very end of the age."
Since no one is truly separated from God, I think it's easy to
understand why Jesus said that he was with us always.
If you claim we are separated from God, then we are also separated
from Jesus, (who was/is God in the flesh), and that would make His
statement a lie. Which in turn would make Christianity a lie.
Actually, the separation from God is only a delusion of our human
mind. In this universe, nothing can exist if separated from God. The
fact that we are here alive occupying a part of space and the
knowledge that God is omnipresent in the whole universe, proves we are
not separated from God.
Yes we are alive here on earth. And God makes it rain on the just and
the unjust alike. But if you do not believe in God (I do), and have
not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior (I have), then you
are separated from God. Because God cannot look on sin, and all have
sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. And the wages of sin is
Death. Because of Jesus, we have the choice to defeat death. He will
not force it on us, we have to make that decision. In other words, our
decision will decide if we are separated from God or not.
That is you think you can make a decision on your own. To me, I would
rather God makes that decision for me. Very much simpler and easier
than your choice, isn't it?
Yes it would be. But we have to make a choice. We have to decide to
accept his gift or not accept his gift.
Therefore, Jesus was not lying, and Christianity is not a lie.
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
27 Mar 2005 10:03:32 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:55:10 -0500, wrote:
snip for brevity
Actually, the separation from God is only a delusion of our human
mind. In this universe, nothing can exist if separated from God. The
fact that we are here alive occupying a part of space and the
knowledge that God is omnipresent in the whole universe, proves we are
not separated from God.
Yes we are alive here on earth. And God makes it rain on the just and
the unjust alike. But if you do not believe in God (I do), and have
not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior (I have), then you
are separated from God. Because God cannot look on sin, and all have
sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. And the wages of sin is
Death. Because of Jesus, we have the choice to defeat death. He will
not force it on us, we have to make that decision. In other words, our
decision will decide if we are separated from God or not.
That is you think you can make a decision on your own. To me, I would
rather God makes that decision for me. Very much simpler and easier
than your choice, isn't it?
Yes it would be. But we have to make a choice. We have to decide to
accept his gift or not accept his gift.
Oops, I don't think I have that choice either. :-)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
28 Mar 2005 04:55:03 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:03:32 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:55:10 -0500, wrote:
snip for brevity
Actually, the separation from God is only a delusion of our human
mind. In this universe, nothing can exist if separated from God. The
fact that we are here alive occupying a part of space and the
knowledge that God is omnipresent in the whole universe, proves we are
not separated from God.
Yes we are alive here on earth. And God makes it rain on the just and
the unjust alike. But if you do not believe in God (I do), and have
not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior (I have), then you
are separated from God. Because God cannot look on sin, and all have
sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. And the wages of sin is
Death. Because of Jesus, we have the choice to defeat death. He will
not force it on us, we have to make that decision. In other words, our
decision will decide if we are separated from God or not.
That is you think you can make a decision on your own. To me, I would
rather God makes that decision for me. Very much simpler and easier
than your choice, isn't it?
Yes it would be. But we have to make a choice. We have to decide to
accept his gift or not accept his gift.
Oops, I don't think I have that choice either. :-)
And why don't you have that choice?
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
28 Mar 2005 05:14:07 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:55:03 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:03:32 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:55:10 -0500, wrote:
snip for brevity
Actually, the separation from God is only a delusion of our human
mind. In this universe, nothing can exist if separated from God. The
fact that we are here alive occupying a part of space and the
knowledge that God is omnipresent in the whole universe, proves we are
not separated from God.
Yes we are alive here on earth. And God makes it rain on the just and
the unjust alike. But if you do not believe in God (I do), and have
not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior (I have), then you
are separated from God. Because God cannot look on sin, and all have
sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. And the wages of sin is
Death. Because of Jesus, we have the choice to defeat death. He will
not force it on us, we have to make that decision. In other words, our
decision will decide if we are separated from God or not.
That is you think you can make a decision on your own. To me, I would
rather God makes that decision for me. Very much simpler and easier
than your choice, isn't it?
Yes it would be. But we have to make a choice. We have to decide to
accept his gift or not accept his gift.
Oops, I don't think I have that choice either. :-)
And why don't you have that choice?
Because it's irresistible? :-)
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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26 Mar 2005 10:45:09 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Mary was used as the earthly vessel to bear the Christ-child when He
was to come to Earth as a man.
She served NO OTHER purpose.
The roman catholic denominatin has literally attempted to declare her
a 'goddess' in that they pray TO her, which our Lord Jesus Christ
NEVER even suggested, let alone authorized.
They bow and kneel before statues of what they think she looked
like... which IS idolatry, regardless of their false claims that
statuary is 'Catholic church art....'
They claim God (the REAL HOLY FATHER) 'pronounced and declared Mary to
be the queen of Heaven'. which is another false teaching. The 'queen
of Heaven' always used to refer to the moon, or 'the lesser light',
not Mary.
and in fact, God OBJECTS to her being referred to AS the Q of H !!
Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire,
and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven,
and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke
me to anger.
Jer 44:18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of
heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all
things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
The Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary also states:
Jer 7:18 - children . . . fathers . . . women--Not merely isolated
individuals practised idolatry; young and old, men and women, and
whole families, contributed their joint efforts to promote it. Oh,
that there were the same zeal for the worship of God as there is for
error (Jer_44:17, Jer_44:19; Jer_19:13)!
cakes . . . queen of heaven--Cakes were made of honey, fine flour,
&c., in a round flat shape to resemble the disc of the moon, to which
they were offered. Others read as Margin, "the frame of heaven," that
is, the planets generally; so the Septuagint here; but elsewhere the
Septuagint translates, "queen of heaven." The Phœnicians called the
moon Ashtoreth or Astarte: the wife of Baal or Moloch, the king of
heaven. The male and female pair of deities symbolized the generative
powers of nature; hence arose the introduction of prostitution in the
worship. The Babylonians worshipped Ashtoreth as Mylitta, that is,
generative. Our Monday, or Moon-day, indicates the former prevalence
of moon worship (see on Isa_65:11).
that they may provoke me--implying design: in worshipping strange gods
they seemed as if purposely to provoke Jehovah.
EOQ....
Hope this helps.
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26 Mar 2005 05:40:37 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:45:09 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Hehe, I think Catholics will feel offended. I'm not catholic, and know
very little about Catholicism.
Mary was used as the earthly vessel to bear the Christ-child when He
was to come to Earth as a man.
She served NO OTHER purpose.
The roman catholic denominatin has literally attempted to declare her
a 'goddess' in that they pray TO her, which our Lord Jesus Christ
NEVER even suggested, let alone authorized.
They bow and kneel before statues of what they think she looked
like... which IS idolatry, regardless of their false claims that
statuary is 'Catholic church art....'
They claim God (the REAL HOLY FATHER) 'pronounced and declared Mary to
be the queen of Heaven'. which is another false teaching. The 'queen
of Heaven' always used to refer to the moon, or 'the lesser light',
not Mary.
and in fact, God OBJECTS to her being referred to AS the Q of H !!
Jer 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire,
and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven,
and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke
me to anger.
Jer 44:18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of
heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all
things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
The Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Commentary also states:
Jer 7:18 - children . . . fathers . . . women--Not merely isolated
individuals practised idolatry; young and old, men and women, and
whole families, contributed their joint efforts to promote it. Oh,
that there were the same zeal for the worship of God as there is for
error (Jer_44:17, Jer_44:19; Jer_19:13)!
cakes . . . queen of heaven--Cakes were made of honey, fine flour,
&c., in a round flat shape to resemble the disc of the moon, to which
they were offered. Others read as Margin, "the frame of heaven," that
is, the planets generally; so the Septuagint here; but elsewhere the
Septuagint translates, "queen of heaven." The Phœnicians called the
moon Ashtoreth or Astarte: the wife of Baal or Moloch, the king of
heaven. The male and female pair of deities symbolized the generative
powers of nature; hence arose the introduction of prostitution in the
worship. The Babylonians worshipped Ashtoreth as Mylitta, that is,
generative. Our Monday, or Moon-day, indicates the former prevalence
of moon worship (see on Isa_65:11).
that they may provoke me--implying design: in worshipping strange gods
they seemed as if purposely to provoke Jehovah.
EOQ....
Hope this helps.
No, it's not. I don't understand why you fight over such small things
so much. We don't know what it is like exactly in heaven until we find
ourselves actually in there. Why argue about things we don't yet know?
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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27 Mar 2005 10:33:58 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:40:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:45:09 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Hehe, I think Catholics will feel offended. I'm not catholic, and know
very little about Catholicism.
If they are offended, I cannot help it- it is the TRUTH. That IS
faulty romanist teaching.
Mary was used as the earthly vessel to bear the Christ-child when He
was to come to Earth as a man.
She served NO OTHER purpose.
The roman catholic denominatin has literally attempted to declare her
a 'goddess' in that they pray TO her, which our Lord Jesus Christ
NEVER even suggested, let alone authorized.
snipped since obviously you're not intrested
anyway..............................
Hope this helps.
No, it's not. I don't understand why you fight over such small things
so much. We don't know what it is like exactly in heaven until we find
ourselves actually in there. Why argue about things we don't yet know?
I DO know the romanist religion is teaching falsely, and am merely
trying to open some EYES in here as to the TRUTHS in the Bible as
opposed to romanist teaching.
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27 Mar 2005 01:05:36 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:33:58 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:40:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:45:09 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Hehe, I think Catholics will feel offended. I'm not catholic, and know
very little about Catholicism.
If they are offended, I cannot help it- it is the TRUTH. That IS
faulty romanist teaching.
Really? Are you trying to make me a catholic simply because I try to
defend their right to practice their religion as they wish?
Mary was used as the earthly vessel to bear the Christ-child when He
was to come to Earth as a man.
She served NO OTHER purpose.
The roman catholic denominatin has literally attempted to declare her
a 'goddess' in that they pray TO her, which our Lord Jesus Christ
NEVER even suggested, let alone authorized.
snipped since obviously you're not intrested
anyway..............................
Hope this helps.
No, it's not. I don't understand why you fight over such small things
so much. We don't know what it is like exactly in heaven until we find
ourselves actually in there. Why argue about things we don't yet know?
I DO know the romanist religion is teaching falsely, and am merely
trying to open some EYES in here as to the TRUTHS in the Bible as
opposed to romanist teaching.
Nobody is perfect. There are flaws and imperfections in all religions.
That is simply the reflection of our own human face. If you think the
catholic face is ugly, what makes your face so nice and lovely when
all you do is to point fingers?
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| User: "icono" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
27 Mar 2005 04:29:42 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p90e41pv7m0vpvf02t44d4gt5a312ac4t4@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:33:58 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:40:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:45:09 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Hehe, I think Catholics will feel offended. I'm not catholic, and know
very little about Catholicism.
If they are offended, I cannot help it- it is the TRUTH. That IS
faulty romanist teaching.
Really? Are you trying to make me a catholic simply because I try to
defend their right to practice their religion as they wish?
Satan worshippers have a "right" to practice their religion, so?
What is your native tongue?
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| User: "Eric Brze" |
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27 Mar 2005 07:55:43 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:29:42 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p90e41pv7m0vpvf02t44d4gt5a312ac4t4@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:33:58 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:40:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:45:09 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Hehe, I think Catholics will feel offended. I'm not catholic, and know
very little about Catholicism.
If they are offended, I cannot help it- it is the TRUTH. That IS
faulty romanist teaching.
Really? Are you trying to make me a catholic simply because I try to
defend their right to practice their religion as they wish?
Satan worshippers have a "right" to practice their religion, so?
So it's not really your business. As a Christian, you should worry
more about your own spiritual practice and betterment instead.
What is your native tongue?
Chinese.
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| User: "icono" |
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27 Mar 2005 10:34:16 PM |
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"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:reoe411jccnlm4lg038cuts437l3k6pqmq@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:29:42 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
news:p90e41pv7m0vpvf02t44d4gt5a312ac4t4@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:33:58 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:40:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:45:09 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Hehe, I think Catholics will feel offended. I'm not catholic, and know
very little about Catholicism.
If they are offended, I cannot help it- it is the TRUTH. That IS
faulty romanist teaching.
Really? Are you trying to make me a catholic simply because I try to
defend their right to practice their religion as they wish?
Satan worshippers have a "right" to practice their religion, so?
So it's not really your business. As a Christian, you should worry
more about your own spiritual practice and betterment instead.
Who told you that?
Scripture and Christian teaching didn't.
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
28 Mar 2005 01:04:13 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:34:16 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:29:42 -0700, "icono" <icono@cox.net> wrote:
"Eric Brze" <brze@no.spam.mail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:33:58 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:40:37 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:45:09 -0500, "Doc: The
absent-minded-professor!" <Doc@Watson.yup> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 02:44:38 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
I disagree. If Jesus said he and his father are one, then logic
dictates, he and his mother are not much different either.
sorry, but that is romanistic faulty teaching.
Hehe, I think Catholics will feel offended. I'm not catholic, and know
very little about Catholicism.
If they are offended, I cannot help it- it is the TRUTH. That IS
faulty romanist teaching.
Really? Are you trying to make me a catholic simply because I try to
defend their right to practice their religion as they wish?
Satan worshippers have a "right" to practice their religion, so?
So it's not really your business. As a Christian, you should worry
more about your own spiritual practice and betterment instead.
Who told you that?
My understanding.
Scripture and Christian teaching didn't.
Really? Oh, well. What a disappointment. Guess you have to throw away
the crutches to walk on you own some day.
:-)
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| User: "Doc: The absent-minded-professor!" |
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| Title: Re: Praying the rosary. |
28 Mar 2005 11:15:32 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:04:13 -0500, Eric Brze <brze@no.spam.mail.com>
sez the following funny stuff:
My understanding.
BUT --- The Bible tells us:
Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto
thine own understanding.
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