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04 Apr 2005 10:02:18 PM |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm
A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a planet
beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought to
be like a young version of our Sun.
Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists believe
the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.
The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in the
journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.
Dr Tam
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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25 Apr 2005 01:08:44 AM |
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Mike Painter wrote:
Duck wrote:
Bible Studier wrote
Programs such as those on the Discovery Channel lay down the facts
and
let the viewer decide on what is possible. In this case satellites
gave a pattern that seem to much the shape of the ark and the
location
was in the most likely place were the ark might be found. It's not
strong enough proof that the ark existed but it's a start.
*It's years old and false. It was dreamed up by a Christian scientist
who wanted to believe it was the ark (and made quite a lot of money
from it) when real scientists examined it they found it to be rock
formation.
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/geocentrism/mt_ararat.html points out a
little different story and is interesting in it's own right
very interesting ...... it's amazing what these guys try and get away
with ....
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
25 Apr 2005 02:03:43 AM |
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In article <pnen611cqg31e9eisnqvhk5t564h3go7ob@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
Everyone has options on UFO's mine is that they are testing a top
secret plane which can become visual at times and the talk about UFO's
and Aliens is just a cover up. No I don't have any proof of this.
Then why assume it is true? It's been shown, by investigations performed
by the Skeptic's Society (www.skeptic.com) and James Randi
(www.randi.org) that most, if not all, UFOs can later be actually
identified.
And can I ask - are you actually thinking that this "top secret" plane
can turn invisible??
Programs such as those on the Discovery Channel lay down the facts and
let the viewer decide on what is possible. In this case satellites
gave a pattern that seem to much the shape of the ark and the location
was in the most likely place were the ark might be found. It's not
strong enough proof that the ark existed but it's a start.
Then why didn't swarms of scientists go to this location and dig up the
ark?
Cheers,
TGHO
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The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "Wonder" |
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25 Apr 2005 03:07:56 AM |
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The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <pnen611cqg31e9eisnqvhk5t564h3go7ob@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
Everyone has options on UFO's mine is that they are testing a top
secret plane which can become visual at times and the talk about UFO's
and Aliens is just a cover up. No I don't have any proof of this.
Then why assume it is true? It's been shown, by investigations performed
by the Skeptic's Society (www.skeptic.com) and James Randi
(www.randi.org) that most, if not all, UFOs can later be actually
identified.
And can I ask - are you actually thinking that this "top secret" plane
can turn invisible??
If it's high enough and fast enough then it may not be seen.
I don't want to get into the subject of UFO's as I'm sure there is
another newsgroup that welcomes posts on UFO activity.
Programs such as those on the Discovery Channel lay down the facts and
let the viewer decide on what is possible. In this case satellites
gave a pattern that seem to much the shape of the ark and the location
was in the most likely place were the ark might be found. It's not
strong enough proof that the ark existed but it's a start.
Then why didn't swarms of scientists go to this location and dig up the
ark?
According to the program guards prevented people from entering the
area.
Bible Studier
Cheers,
TGHO
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Apr 2005 08:12:25 AM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m59p619vif9grcsnf4cc3ucr9tto4u9c0u@4ax.com...
snip
According to the program guards prevented people from entering the
area.
My, oh my. How convenient.
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Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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25 Apr 2005 04:41:10 AM |
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In article <m59p619vif9grcsnf4cc3ucr9tto4u9c0u@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
If it's high enough and fast enough then it may not be seen.
I don't want to get into the subject of UFO's as I'm sure there is
another newsgroup that welcomes posts on UFO activity.
But... But... ;) No, I agree. No worries mate. :)
According to the program guards prevented people from entering the
area.
I answered this in another post, but to reiterate - the Turks don't want
people traipsing all over their land without the proper permits and
official guides/controllers.
Cheers,
TGHO
--
The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "Mephisto" |
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24 Apr 2005 11:47:55 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 03:38:14 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Programs such as those on the Discovery Channel lay down the facts and
let the viewer decide on what is possible. In this case satellites
gave a pattern that seem to much the shape of the ark and the location
was in the most likely place were the ark might be found. It's not
strong enough proof that the ark existed but it's a start.
Why do you happily believe any vague shred of physical evidence that
the ark existed, but ignore the mountain of evidence that it did not?
Physical evidence is either important or it is not. Make up your mind.
Mephisto
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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25 Apr 2005 01:07:08 AM |
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Wonder wrote:
Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth.
What? Where is this evidence?
It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Oh yeah, that's what they all say.
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
And this proves the ark exists, how?
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
And this proves the ark exists, how?
I wish I could tell you what the program was about and how they had
proof that the ark existed, but it's been a long time since I saw it.
I may have it recorded on video tape.
If I find it on tape when I'll watch it again and full you in on the
facts.
Bible Studier
How stupid are you ? A documentary on TV is NOT an argument, I saw a
documentary on Discovery Channel about UFO's, some of the people in this
Doco were quite convinced UFO's ( and the Aliens that go with them )
existed ..... do you believe in UFO's too ? Is this how you get all your
science ?
Everyone has options on UFO's mine is that they are testing a top
secret plane which can become visual at times and the talk about UFO's
and Aliens is just a cover up. No I don't have any proof of this.
Programs such as those on the Discovery Channel lay down the facts and
let the viewer decide on what is possible. In this case satellites
gave a pattern that seem to much the shape of the ark and the location
was in the most likely place were the ark might be found. It's not
strong enough proof that the ark existed but it's a start.
Bible Studier
LOL .... it's not even a start..... that Documentary is years old ....
Turns out the 'shape' was a rock formation ...... kind of like the 'face
on Mars'........ at first glance it looks intriguing, on closer
inspection it's just a bunch of rocks ..... do try to keep up here Boy
Wonder ..... go and buy yourself a copy of 'Scientific American' ....
You're clutching at straws here BS, basing all your evidence on one old,
satellite pic ...... which has since been shown to be some rocks .......
while completely ignoring all the evidence that says it NEVER happened .....
I'll repeat it for you, NO ONE has ever found ANY evidence for the
existence of the Ark ..... lots of people have 'claimed' it, but none of
these claims has ever withstood even the slightest scrutiny ....
and despite your silly claims .... Mt.Ararat has been well and truly
scaled, mapped, explored and documented ......it's been famous for quite
some time now, as you are probably aware, even the US military has
comprehensively imaged it from their satellites...... guess what ?
no Ark .....
READ THESE :
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
When you have examined these links and comprehended them, then maybe you
will see how ignorant you really are ......
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Wonder" |
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25 Apr 2005 03:04:04 AM |
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Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth.
What? Where is this evidence?
It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Oh yeah, that's what they all say.
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
And this proves the ark exists, how?
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
And this proves the ark exists, how?
I wish I could tell you what the program was about and how they had
proof that the ark existed, but it's been a long time since I saw it.
I may have it recorded on video tape.
If I find it on tape when I'll watch it again and full you in on the
facts.
Bible Studier
How stupid are you ? A documentary on TV is NOT an argument, I saw a
documentary on Discovery Channel about UFO's, some of the people in this
Doco were quite convinced UFO's ( and the Aliens that go with them )
existed ..... do you believe in UFO's too ? Is this how you get all your
science ?
Everyone has options on UFO's mine is that they are testing a top
secret plane which can become visual at times and the talk about UFO's
and Aliens is just a cover up. No I don't have any proof of this.
Programs such as those on the Discovery Channel lay down the facts and
let the viewer decide on what is possible. In this case satellites
gave a pattern that seem to much the shape of the ark and the location
was in the most likely place were the ark might be found. It's not
strong enough proof that the ark existed but it's a start.
Bible Studier
LOL .... it's not even a start..... that Documentary is years old ....
Turns out the 'shape' was a rock formation ...... kind of like the 'face
on Mars'........ at first glance it looks intriguing, on closer
inspection it's just a bunch of rocks ..... do try to keep up here Boy
Wonder ..... go and buy yourself a copy of 'Scientific American' ....
That's the type of thing I'm interested to read from news groups such
as these as the program left me wondering have they actually found
somthing important. So now I know that it was not a major discovery.
Bible Studier
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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22 Apr 2005 10:27:15 AM |
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In article <3csaeoF6mclkkU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pbdh615el9qlpovsr7i0e2a4ju9qcc80u2@4ax.com...
The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <qiv561pgb8jvg7n5deqb6vhvopsghjsuf9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth.
What? Where is this evidence?
• One piece of evidence was a piece of wood from Noah's Ark. However,
before the evidence could be scientifically tested, The Devil cleverly
changed the composition of the evidence to make it appear that the wood
came from an abandoned railway line in Long Beach, California.
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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22 Apr 2005 10:52:42 AM |
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". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-2204050827150001@192.168.1.103...
In article <3csaeoF6mclkkU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pbdh615el9qlpovsr7i0e2a4ju9qcc80u2@4ax.com...
The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <qiv561pgb8jvg7n5deqb6vhvopsghjsuf9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any
actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have
something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth.
What? Where is this evidence?
. One piece of evidence was a piece of wood from Noah's Ark. However,
before the evidence could be scientifically tested, The Devil cleverly
changed the composition of the evidence to make it appear that the wood
came from an abandoned railway line in Long Beach, California.
LOL. That Satan - Always kidding around ;)
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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22 Apr 2005 02:20:52 PM |
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In article <3csktoF6odrqaU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
". R. L. Measures" <_r@somis.org> wrote in message
news:_r-2204050827150001@192.168.1.103...
In article <3csaeoF6mclkkU1@individual.net>, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pbdh615el9qlpovsr7i0e2a4ju9qcc80u2@4ax.com...
The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <qiv561pgb8jvg7n5deqb6vhvopsghjsuf9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any
actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have
something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth.
What? Where is this evidence?
. One piece of evidence was a piece of wood from Noah's Ark. However,
before the evidence could be scientifically tested, The Devil cleverly
changed the composition of the evidence to make it appear that the wood
came from an abandoned railway line in Long Beach, California.
LOL. That Satan - Always kidding around ;)
^^ some devilish ***** indeed.
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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22 Apr 2005 05:15:51 PM |
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In article <_r-2204050827150001@192.168.1.103>, says...
=95 One piece of evidence was a piece of wood from Noah's Ark. However,
before the evidence could be scientifically tested, The Devil cleverly
changed the composition of the evidence to make it appear that the wood
came from an abandoned railway line in Long Beach, California.
That's my Dad, always mixing things up, making jokes, having fun!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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22 Apr 2005 05:22:29 PM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <_r-2204050827150001@192.168.1.103>, says...
• One piece of evidence was a piece of wood from Noah's Ark. However,
before the evidence could be scientifically tested, The Devil cleverly
changed the composition of the evidence to make it appear that the wood
came from an abandoned railway line in Long Beach, California.
That's my Dad, always mixing things up, making jokes, having fun!
Too bad he's such a bloody slob! <picks up brimstone underwear and tosses in
abestos-coated laundry basket> ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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24 Apr 2005 10:54:53 PM |
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In article <3ctbp5F6odmg8U1@individual.net>,
says...
Too bad he's such a bloody slob! <picks up brimstone underwear and tosses in
abestos-coated laundry basket> ;)
Hmmm, I don't think your hubby really is Satan - he's a complete neat-
freak. Has been ever since I was a boy. Cripes, you should see his house
- absolutely everything is exactly where it is meant to be. If anything
is out of place, he gets growl.
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Apr 2005 08:04:26 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cd7151ba2dc0afa98977a@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <3ctbp5F6odmg8U1@individual.net>,
says...
Too bad he's such a bloody slob! <picks up brimstone underwear and
tosses in
abestos-coated laundry basket> ;)
Hmmm, I don't think your hubby really is Satan - he's a complete neat-
freak. Has been ever since I was a boy. Cripes, you should see his house
- absolutely everything is exactly where it is meant to be. If anything
is out of place, he gets growl.
LOL - If that's the way the real Satan keeps his house, then MY hubby is
definitely NOT him. He's a terrible slob. While I will miss him while he's
away this week, I most definintely will NOT miss the mess he leaves behind.
Having the house neat for a week will be a pleasure :)
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Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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26 Apr 2005 05:38:43 AM |
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In article <3d486aF6rppqhU1@individual.net>,
says...
LOL - If that's the way the real Satan keeps his house, then MY hubby is
definitely NOT him. He's a terrible slob. While I will miss him while he's
away this week, I most definintely will NOT miss the mess he leaves behind.
Having the house neat for a week will be a pleasure :)
Then I have to say - I don't think your hubby is actually Satan. ;)
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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26 Apr 2005 07:22:11 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cd8c53c8ee9aa5e9897ed@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <3d486aF6rppqhU1@individual.net>,
says...
LOL - If that's the way the real Satan keeps his house, then MY hubby is
definitely NOT him. He's a terrible slob. While I will miss him while
he's
away this week, I most definintely will NOT miss the mess he leaves
behind.
Having the house neat for a week will be a pleasure :)
Then I have to say - I don't think your hubby is actually Satan. ;)
An imposter?!? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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26 Apr 2005 04:13:31 PM |
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In article <3d6q32F6rd9fuU1@individual.net>,
says...
An imposter?!? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :)
Sounds like a movie plot!
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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23 Apr 2005 04:42:23 AM |
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In article <MPG.1cd422a3632b6e81989771@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <_r-2204050827150001@192.168.1.103>, says...
=95 One piece of evidence was a piece of wood from Noah's Ark. However,
before the evidence could be scientifically tested, The Devil cleverly
changed the composition of the evidence to make it appear that the wood
came from an abandoned railway line in Long Beach, California.
That's my Dad, always mixing things up, making jokes, having fun!
^^ Damn!
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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24 Apr 2005 10:53:33 PM |
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In article <_r-2304050242230001@192.168.1.100>, says...
^^ Damn!
Damn what now?
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ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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22 Apr 2005 07:21:27 AM |
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In article <pbdh615el9qlpovsr7i0e2a4ju9qcc80u2@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth.
What do you mean by "scanning"? Satellite photos?
It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Really? Then explain to me why, after literally dozens and dozens of
expeditions, that no evidence has been found. We are even told pretty
much exactly where to look, if you check out the biblical passages.
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
And this has what to do with the ark...? You realise that people once
thought disease occurred because you were inhabited by demons, right? Or
that angels pushed the sun around the earth?
Just because some people believe in something whacky doesn't make it
true. :)
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Okay, firstly I don't have cable (here in Australia it's quite
expensive). Secondly, I don't watch tv. And finally - science quite
definitely shows that the ark could not and did not exist. Besides all
the problems with a global flood, the ark itself has major engineering
problems, none of which can be overcome by iron age humans.
However, if you wish to discuss this further, I have no problems. :)
Cheers,
TGHO
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| User: "Wonder" |
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23 Apr 2005 02:42:03 AM |
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The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <pbdh615el9qlpovsr7i0e2a4ju9qcc80u2@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth.
What do you mean by "scanning"? Satellite photos?
It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Really? Then explain to me why, after literally dozens and dozens of
expeditions, that no evidence has been found. We are even told pretty
much exactly where to look, if you check out the biblical passages.
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
And this has what to do with the ark...? You realise that people once
thought disease occurred because you were inhabited by demons, right? Or
that angels pushed the sun around the earth?
Just because some people believe in something whacky doesn't make it
true. :)
All I'm saying is that good progress in science development has made
discoveries possible. Some say it's impossible and I say it's
possible. Just like some said sending pictures thru the air was
impossible.
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Okay, firstly I don't have cable (here in Australia it's quite
expensive). Secondly, I don't watch tv. And finally - science quite
definitely shows that the ark could not and did not exist. Besides all
the problems with a global flood, the ark itself has major engineering
problems, none of which can be overcome by iron age humans.
However, if you wish to discuss this further, I have no problems. :)
There is a science that tries to prove that the bible is false by
offering alternative explanations and there is a science that is
trying to prove that the bible is correct by making deeper
discoveries.
Because you've never seen it happen does not mean it didn't happen.
What you choose to believe is a personal thing.
Bible Studier
Cheers,
TGHO
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| User: "westprog" |
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23 Apr 2005 07:17:01 AM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com...
....
There is a science that tries to prove that the bible is false by
offering alternative explanations and there is a science that is
trying to prove that the bible is correct by making deeper
discoveries.
Neither of these approaches has anything to do with science. Science looks
for the truth.
The geological evidence is strongly against any world wide flood that
covered the entire Earth at one time in the last 6000 years. But that's the
smaller point. The geological evidence totally disproves the theory that all
fossils on Earth were laid down in a single deposition following a single
flood.
J/
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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24 Apr 2005 11:15:32 PM |
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In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
All I'm saying is that good progress in science development has made
discoveries possible. Some say it's impossible and I say it's
possible. Just like some said sending pictures thru the air was
impossible.
The science behind archaeology and paleontology have been pretty solid
for many, many years - roughly sixty or so. More, if you're dealing with
big, solid objects. Sure, there are always advances, but the basics
don't change.
What I'm saying here is that if there had been an ark to be found - it
would have already been found!
There is a science that tries to prove that the bible is false by
offering alternative explanations and there is a science that is
trying to prove that the bible is correct by making deeper
discoveries.
Incorrect. Totally and utterly.
Science has only one goal, and one goal only. That is to deepen our
understanding of how the natural world works. It has absolutely no
interest in religion, the supernatural, mysticism or magic.
If the bible doesn't match up with the modern understanding of nature,
then the reason for this is because it was written well before humans
actually understood nature. Trying to force nature to match the bible is
just plain silly.
Because you've never seen it happen does not mean it didn't happen.
True, I'll accept that. However, all events leave evidence. And
something as big and as devastating as a global flood would leave a huge
amount of physical evidence - none of which has ever been found.
What you choose to believe is a personal thing.
Again, true. However note that reality follows a set of laws and
theories that have nothing to do with belief, and are not affected by
whatever we humans believe.
Cheers,
TGHO
--
The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "•R.L.Measures" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
29 Apr 2005 11:06:31 AM |
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In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
• chortle
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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29 Apr 2005 01:54:57 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (•R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
• chortle
<runs outside laughing>
PCB
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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29 Apr 2005 04:25:36 PM |
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In article <en057191q6scb1m4pbm3u48gv806260848@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (•R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
• chortle
<runs outside laughing>
• I did not have time to run anywhere.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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30 Apr 2005 07:28:25 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:36 -0700, (• R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <en057191q6scb1m4pbm3u48gv806260848@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (•R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
• chortle
<runs outside laughing>
• I did not have time to run anywhere.
Indeed, I started laughing inside but took it outside where I became
helpless with laughter...for quite some time...best laugh I've had in
quite a while.
PCB
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| User: "• R. L. Measures" |
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30 Apr 2005 07:56:43 AM |
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In article <qdu671p3eo0ntfhj5mmehfrjfslp76absb@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:36 -0700, (• R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <en057191q6scb1m4pbm3u48gv806260848@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (•R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
• chortle
<runs outside laughing>
• I did not have time to run anywhere.
Indeed, I started laughing inside but took it outside where I became
helpless with laughter...for quite some time...best laugh I've had in
quite a while.
• A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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03 May 2005 07:35:24 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:56:43 -0700, (• R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <qdu671p3eo0ntfhj5mmehfrjfslp76absb@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:36 -0700, (• R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <en057191q6scb1m4pbm3u48gv806260848@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (•R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
• chortle
<runs outside laughing>
• I did not have time to run anywhere.
Indeed, I started laughing inside but took it outside where I became
helpless with laughter...for quite some time...best laugh I've had in
quite a while.
• A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
It shows the lengths that some people go to to bolster their
faith...it saddens me this sort of bs.
PCB
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