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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm
A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a planet
beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought to
be like a young version of our Sun.
Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists believe
the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.
The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in the
journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.
Dr Tam
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04 May 2005 05:16:42 PM |
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"Post Colonial Boy" <republican@email.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:56:43 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <qdu671p3eo0ntfhj5mmehfrjfslp76absb@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:36 -0700, (. R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <en057191q6scb1m4pbm3u48gv806260848@4ax.com>, Post Colonial
Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (.R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>, The
Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from outsiders,
it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe others
can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people going
there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as
you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will let
you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks
blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an
excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
. chortle
<runs outside laughing>
. I did not have time to run anywhere.
Indeed, I started laughing inside but took it outside where I became
helpless with laughter...for quite some time...best laugh I've had in
quite a while.
. A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
It shows the lengths that some people go to to bolster their
faith...it saddens me this sort of bs.
Now lads, don't judge too soon.
A group of Turks sold the crossties to a now defunct California RR.
Even with the shipping factored in, the price per tie was outstanding.
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| User: " R. L. Measures" |
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03 May 2005 09:00:29 PM |
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In article <cg4g7151dphc291216cfsdaje45jm87qlm@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:56:43 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <qdu671p3eo0ntfhj5mmehfrjfslp76absb@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:36 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <en057191q6scb1m4pbm3u48gv806260848@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from
outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe
others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people
going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will
let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks
blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an
excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
chortle
<runs outside laughing>
I did not have time to run anywhere.
Indeed, I started laughing inside but took it outside where I became
helpless with laughter...for quite some time...best laugh I've had in
quite a while.
A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
It shows the lengths that some people go to to bolster their
faith...it saddens me this sort of bs.
Surely, but it's good for a laugh when they become ensnared.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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07 May 2005 09:41:01 PM |
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On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:00:29 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <cg4g7151dphc291216cfsdaje45jm87qlm@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:56:43 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <qdu671p3eo0ntfhj5mmehfrjfslp76absb@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:25:36 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <en057191q6scb1m4pbm3u48gv806260848@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:06:31 -0700, (R.L.Measures)
wrote:
In article <MPG.1cd7193e97e01b4298977b@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
The Great
Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <fguj61pu6q4g4rsa8dc91f5v3m3b3a4hj9@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
There is an area in a country that blocks access from
outsiders, it's
heavy guarded. It's were they believe that the ark is located.
It's been a long time since I saw the documentary so maybe
others can
shed more light on this.
This is untrue. Mount Ararat in Turkey is relatively accessible to
tourists and scientists. The Turks tend to frown upon people
going there
because it's near one of their big military bases, but as long as you
are accompanied by government or military officials, they will
let you
go.
The main problem the Turks have is the constant stream of christian
"scientists" who keep telling the outside world that the Turks
blocked
them from taking artifacts or geological samples, purely as an
excuse to
try to lay blame for not finding the ark.
chortle
<runs outside laughing>
I did not have time to run anywhere.
Indeed, I started laughing inside but took it outside where I became
helpless with laughter...for quite some time...best laugh I've had in
quite a while.
A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
It shows the lengths that some people go to to bolster their
faith...it saddens me this sort of bs.
Surely, but it's good for a laugh when they become ensnared.
It is both amusing and sad at the same time...
PCB
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| User: " R. L. Measures" |
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08 May 2005 11:30:44 AM |
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In article <f1vq71tab9rhh7jenjb30j5a8og2gjdctu@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:00:29 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <cg4g7151dphc291216cfsdaje45jm87qlm@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:56:43 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
....
A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
It shows the lengths that some people go to to bolster their
faith...it saddens me this sort of bs.
Surely, but it's good for a laugh when they become ensnared.
It is both amusing and sad at the same time...
Leeny Bruce was right about humour being rooted in truth.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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08 May 2005 02:24:46 PM |
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On Sun, 08 May 2005 09:30:44 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <f1vq71tab9rhh7jenjb30j5a8og2gjdctu@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:00:29 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <cg4g7151dphc291216cfsdaje45jm87qlm@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:56:43 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
....
A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
It shows the lengths that some people go to to bolster their
faith...it saddens me this sort of bs.
Surely, but it's good for a laugh when they become ensnared.
It is both amusing and sad at the same time...
Leeny Bruce was right about humour being rooted in truth.
As the Comic Messiah, John Cleese, said, 'All comedy requires a
victim'....If the victim is a real person/situation/group of people
then the humour is even more cutting.
Of course, some groups dislike being victimised in this manner...
PCB
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| User: " R. L. Measures" |
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08 May 2005 10:33:20 PM |
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In article <jops71lmb94e9u570ghq2oc4s664lt0ggm@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2005 09:30:44 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <f1vq71tab9rhh7jenjb30j5a8og2gjdctu@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Tue, 03 May 2005 19:00:29 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
In article <cg4g7151dphc291216cfsdaje45jm87qlm@4ax.com>, Post Colonial Boy
<republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 05:56:43 -0700, ( R. L. Measures)
wrote:
....
A few years ago CBS produced a special on Noah's Ark. The
investigators went to Mt. Ararat and allegedly brought back a
piece of the
actual wood from Noah's Ark. The wood was subjected to scientific
analysis and it was determined to have come from an abandoned
rail line in
Long Beach, California. Perhaps this was a harbinger of the Dan Rather
blunder?
It shows the lengths that some people go to to bolster their
faith...it saddens me this sort of bs.
Surely, but it's good for a laugh when they become ensnared.
It is both amusing and sad at the same time...
Leeny Bruce was right about humour being rooted in truth.
As the Comic Messiah, John Cleese, said, 'All comedy requires a
victim'....If the victim is a real person/situation/group of people
then the humour is even more cutting.
Of course, some groups dislike being victimised in this manner...
Indeed, PCB. However, such persons are oft' victims of their family's
naivetι, so they get especially pissed when their beliefs are discussed
openly and examined closely.
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Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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22 Apr 2005 06:47:04 AM |
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Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
........
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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22 Apr 2005 05:34:27 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:47:04 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
.......
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
Errr...actually...thats not true. There are kernels of truth in the
Bible...it just so happens that Noah's Flood never happened...to prove
one thing false is enough to upset the apple cart of simplistic
Biblical literalists.
PCB
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| User: "Wonder" |
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23 Apr 2005 02:46:55 AM |
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Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:47:04 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
.......
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
Errr...actually...thats not true. There are kernels of truth in the
Bible...it just so happens that Noah's Flood never happened...to prove
one thing false is enough to upset the apple cart of simplistic
Biblical literalists.
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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25 Apr 2005 01:24:10 AM |
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In article <p9vj61pj1conc7loeb0c2h1p1rpangha50@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Mate, it's very simple. If a global flood actually had happened, then it
would be very well documented in the geological strata. Not to mention
in each civilisation's records.
We don't see any of this evidence anywhere.
Cheers,
TGHO
--
The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "Wonder" |
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25 Apr 2005 02:55:11 AM |
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The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <p9vj61pj1conc7loeb0c2h1p1rpangha50@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Mate, it's very simple. If a global flood actually had happened, then it
would be very well documented in the geological strata. Not to mention
in each civilisation's records.
How could it be recorded when everyone drowned except those inside the
ark.
We don't see any of this evidence anywhere.
Cheers,
TGHO
The parting of the red sea so Mosses could lead his people across the
ocean seems impossible according to science. But either you believe it
or you don't.
Bible Studier
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Apr 2005 08:08:11 AM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d8p61hc7la16v7d6aufj6n1pu5joh3ba4@4ax.com...
The Great Hairy One <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <p9vj61pj1conc7loeb0c2h1p1rpangha50@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Mate, it's very simple. If a global flood actually had happened, then it
would be very well documented in the geological strata. Not to mention
in each civilisation's records.
How could it be recorded when everyone drowned except those inside the
ark.
We don't see any of this evidence anywhere.
Cheers,
TGHO
The parting of the red sea so Mosses could lead his people across the
ocean seems impossible according to science. But either you believe it
or you don't.
Don't.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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25 Apr 2005 06:08:28 AM |
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In article <4d8p61hc7la16v7d6aufj6n1pu5joh3ba4@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
How could it be recorded when everyone drowned except those inside the
ark.
Well, the Chinese, the South Americans, the Indians and the rest all
would have written something like:
"Why is it raining in the middle of the dry season?"
"Rain for the tenth straight day. Things bad. If it doesn't let up,
we'll all drown."
"The water has reached the level of the Great Pagoda. Millions are dead.
The rain has not let up for nearly thirty days."
You get the idea, I think!
Furthermore, there would be extremely obvious geological evidence. Not
to mention all the genetic evidence within humanity's DNA. And dozens of
other pieces of evidence which we would see if a global flood had
happened.
The parting of the red sea so Mosses could lead his people across the
ocean seems impossible according to science. But either you believe it
or you don't.
No, not true. You examine the evidence and come to a conclusion based on
the facts, not on myth and legend.
Let's look at the exodus. Firstly, the Egyptians have no records of such
a large number of slaves running away. They also have no records of a
Pharaoh drowning in the middle of the Red Sea. They also have no records
of any of the diseases, plagues and disasters they were allegedly struck
with.
Secondly, there are many records of weird and wonderful things happening
all over the world at this point. Did you know that in China, a wizard
raised a mountain in a day around this time? That Troy was being sieged
by the Greeks and their god-concepts? The point is, that primitive
humans had very little understanding of the natural world, and also
embellished stories greatly.
None of that means it actually happened, or was in any way, a truthful
account.
Cheers,
TGHO
--
The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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23 Apr 2005 04:48:10 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:47:04 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
.......
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
Errr...actually...thats not true. There are kernels of truth in the
Bible...it just so happens that Noah's Flood never happened...to prove
one thing false is enough to upset the apple cart of simplistic
Biblical literalists.
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
The Bible and facts of the matter. In the Bible it says that the
animals walked back to their places of inhabitation...New Zealand is
an island nation in the south Pacific...we have a number of animals
here who are not capable of swimming across the Pacific ocean in order
to continue their walk home from the Ark...
Either Noah took them to New Zealand, which contradicts what it says
in the Bible or it didn't happen.
Have a nice day
PCB
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24 Apr 2005 10:52:39 AM |
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Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:47:04 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
.......
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
Errr...actually...thats not true. There are kernels of truth in the
Bible...it just so happens that Noah's Flood never happened...to prove
one thing false is enough to upset the apple cart of simplistic
Biblical literalists.
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
The Bible and facts of the matter. In the Bible it says that the
animals walked back to their places of inhabitation...New Zealand is
an island nation in the south Pacific...we have a number of animals
here who are not capable of swimming across the Pacific ocean in order
to continue their walk home from the Ark...
Either Noah took them to New Zealand, which contradicts what it says
in the Bible or it didn't happen.
Have a nice day
PCB
There is nothing written in the bible of how life started in other
countries as the people that wrote the bible had no knowledge of far
away countries.
Bible Studier
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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25 Apr 2005 12:41:38 AM |
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Wonder wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:47:04 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
.......
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
Errr...actually...thats not true. There are kernels of truth in the
Bible...it just so happens that Noah's Flood never happened...to prove
one thing false is enough to upset the apple cart of simplistic
Biblical literalists.
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
The Bible and facts of the matter. In the Bible it says that the
animals walked back to their places of inhabitation...New Zealand is
an island nation in the south Pacific...we have a number of animals
here who are not capable of swimming across the Pacific ocean in order
to continue their walk home from the Ark...
Either Noah took them to New Zealand, which contradicts what it says
in the Bible or it didn't happen.
Have a nice day
PCB
There is nothing written in the bible of how life started in other
countries as the people that wrote the bible had no knowledge of far
away countries.
Bible Studier
What !? So you're saying the Bible is just a local story, confined only
to the Middle East ? Written by humans, NOT God and therefore just a
story ....... not even a logical one .... a Fairy Tale ....
If you look a bit further, you will find that the story of Noah is
copied from the 'Epic of Gilgamesh', which is a Pagan myth that precedes
the OT Bible by a thousand years ....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Wonder" |
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25 Apr 2005 02:51:29 AM |
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Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:47:04 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
.......
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
Errr...actually...thats not true. There are kernels of truth in the
Bible...it just so happens that Noah's Flood never happened...to prove
one thing false is enough to upset the apple cart of simplistic
Biblical literalists.
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
The Bible and facts of the matter. In the Bible it says that the
animals walked back to their places of inhabitation...New Zealand is
an island nation in the south Pacific...we have a number of animals
here who are not capable of swimming across the Pacific ocean in order
to continue their walk home from the Ark...
Either Noah took them to New Zealand, which contradicts what it says
in the Bible or it didn't happen.
Have a nice day
PCB
There is nothing written in the bible of how life started in other
countries as the people that wrote the bible had no knowledge of far
away countries.
Bible Studier
What !? So you're saying the Bible is just a local story, confined only
to the Middle East ? Written by humans, NOT God and therefore just a
story ....... not even a logical one .... a Fairy Tale ....
If you look a bit further, you will find that the story of Noah is
copied from the 'Epic of Gilgamesh', which is a Pagan myth that precedes
the OT Bible by a thousand years ....
Your twisting my words around. All I'm trying to say is the bible does
not say on the other side of the world god created more creatures. Not
everything that happened is recorded in the bible. I believe that the
bible is real and not just a fairy tale.
Bible Studier
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
26 Apr 2005 07:18:53 AM |
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Wonder wrote:
Masked Avenger <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 21:47:04 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
Gidday BS,
In time with technical advances in science it will likely to be
proved.
How so? What evidence will scientists uncover to "prove" (no proof in
science, remember) that Adam and Eve actually were real people?
There are some scientific evidence that Noah's Ark does exists.
Oh really? Care to state what it is, please. I am unaware of any actual
evidence supporting the existence of the ark, so if you have something,
I'd love to hear it.
Cheers,
TGHO
I said SOME evidence by scanning parts of the earth. It's just a
matter of time before hard evidence can be found.
Evidence of Noah's Ark ? LOL ..... don't be so stupid ..... no one has
ever, or will ever, find any ...... it NEVER happened ! What we DO have
evidence for, and there is no shortage of it, is an Earth that is about
4.5 Billion years old ...... but absolutely NO evidence for any Global
Flood, especially in the last 10,000 years ...... I strongly suggest you
read these ...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
People did not believe that pictures could be send through the air and
now we have television.
and people believed the Earth was flat because the Bible said so ....
some people believe the Earth is being visited by Aliens, as we speak
.......
There have been many interesting programs on the Discovery Channel and
History Channel that use science to make discoveries.
Absolutely...... but Discovery Channel and History Channel tend to
simplify science and history to make it easy for most people to
understand..... they are NOT the ultimate authority on Science or
History...... some of what they show is very speculative, and some is
downright rubbish, but there is some good stuff there too...... visit a
University Library if you want to see real science or history ....
Science ( which you seem to be ignorant of ) is never going to support
anything about any Biblical story ..... it has already shown them to be
false .......
Errr...actually...thats not true. There are kernels of truth in the
Bible...it just so happens that Noah's Flood never happened...to prove
one thing false is enough to upset the apple cart of simplistic
Biblical literalists.
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
The Bible and facts of the matter. In the Bible it says that the
animals walked back to their places of inhabitation...New Zealand is
an island nation in the south Pacific...we have a number of animals
here who are not capable of swimming across the Pacific ocean in order
to continue their walk home from the Ark...
Either Noah took them to New Zealand, which contradicts what it says
in the Bible or it didn't happen.
Have a nice day
PCB
There is nothing written in the bible of how life started in other
countries as the people that wrote the bible had no knowledge of far
away countries.
Bible Studier
What !? So you're saying the Bible is just a local story, confined only
to the Middle East ? Written by humans, NOT God and therefore just a
story ....... not even a logical one .... a Fairy Tale ....
If you look a bit further, you will find that the story of Noah is
copied from the 'Epic of Gilgamesh', which is a Pagan myth that precedes
the OT Bible by a thousand years ....
Your twisting my words around. All I'm trying to say is the bible does
not say on the other side of the world god created more creatures. Not
everything that happened is recorded in the bible. I believe that the
bible is real and not just a fairy tale.
Bible Studier
you don't seem to even understand your own Bible .....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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23 Apr 2005 05:07:49 PM |
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Post Colonial Boy wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
There is enough information from any branch of science to show that either
it did not happen or it did happen and some god changed all the rules for a
short time then hid all the evidence and changed the rules back.
There is enough information from farmers alone to show that even had the
flood happened the ark could not have carried enough food for just the
herbivores.
The history of wooden ships shows that nobody has ever built a ship near
that size that would stay afloat.
They did not happen. I say they because as anybody familiar with what is
accepted by *all* major schools of theology in the world today, there are
two separate flood stories in the bible.
The Bible and facts of the matter. In the Bible it says that the
animals walked back to their places of inhabitation...New Zealand is
an island nation in the south Pacific...we have a number of animals
here who are not capable of swimming across the Pacific ocean in order
to continue their walk home from the Ark...
Either Noah took them to New Zealand, which contradicts what it says
in the Bible or it didn't happen.
Have a nice day
PCB
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| User: "Wonder" |
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24 Apr 2005 10:56:16 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
There is enough information from any branch of science to show that either
it did not happen or it did happen and some god changed all the rules for a
short time then hid all the evidence and changed the rules back.
There is enough information from farmers alone to show that even had the
flood happened the ark could not have carried enough food for just the
herbivores.
The history of wooden ships shows that nobody has ever built a ship near
that size that would stay afloat.
They did not happen. I say they because as anybody familiar with what is
accepted by *all* major schools of theology in the world today, there are
two separate flood stories in the bible.
It's also believed that the start of the bible was written by two
people and merged together.
Bible Studier
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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24 Apr 2005 01:49:49 PM |
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Wonder wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>
wrote:
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
There is enough information from any branch of science to show that
either it did not happen or it did happen and some god changed all
the rules for a short time then hid all the evidence and changed the
rules back.
There is enough information from farmers alone to show that even had
the flood happened the ark could not have carried enough food for
just the herbivores.
The history of wooden ships shows that nobody has ever built a ship
near that size that would stay afloat.
They did not happen. I say they because as anybody familiar with
what is accepted by *all* major schools of theology in the world
today, there are two separate flood stories in the bible.
It's also believed that the start of the bible was written by two
people and merged together.
Not exactly. The evidence for the first five books has four main separate
sources and only Deuteronomy is thought to be from one single writer. No one
has seriously challenged the idea in over 100 years.
"Who wrote the bible?" by Richard Friedman is a good place to start.
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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23 Apr 2005 08:57:53 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:07:49 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 19:46:55 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
PCB
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
There is enough information from any branch of science to show that either
it did not happen or it did happen and some god changed all the rules for a
short time then hid all the evidence and changed the rules back.
There is enough information from farmers alone to show that even had the
flood happened the ark could not have carried enough food for just the
herbivores.
The history of wooden ships shows that nobody has ever built a ship near
that size that would stay afloat.
They did not happen. I say they because as anybody familiar with what is
accepted by *all* major schools of theology in the world today, there are
two separate flood stories in the bible.
Can you give me the Biblical chapters where the differing versions
appear please? How do you reconcile the conflicting versions? If the
Bible is the "Word of God" how can it have contradictory accounts
within it?
PCB
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24 Apr 2005 12:01:47 AM |
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Post Colonial Boy wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:07:49 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Can you give me the Biblical chapters where the differing versions
appear please? How do you reconcile the conflicting versions? If the
Bible is the "Word of God" how can it have contradictory accounts
within it?
Genesis I and II are two separate stories from two sources.
Compare the two to see that the order of creation is different, especially
when it come to man. In Chapter one god creates mand and woman together. In
two he createsd man, then the animals and creates woman *only* after man has
not found a suitable "helpmeet"
This and the flood stories are examples of a doublet. Doublets and triplets
are common enough in the bible that scholars gave names to them.
I don't reconcile them and I don't think the people (or possibly a person)
who put them in had any reason to believe that they were anything but
stories of creation similar to many others of the time.
I don't believe the bible is the word of any god or gods.
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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24 Apr 2005 02:31:49 AM |
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 05:01:47 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Post Colonial Boy wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 22:07:49 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Can you give me the Biblical chapters where the differing versions
appear please? How do you reconcile the conflicting versions? If the
Bible is the "Word of God" how can it have contradictory accounts
within it?
Genesis I and II are two separate stories from two sources.
Compare the two to see that the order of creation is different, especially
when it come to man. In Chapter one god creates mand and woman together. In
two he createsd man, then the animals and creates woman *only* after man has
not found a suitable "helpmeet"
This and the flood stories are examples of a doublet. Doublets and triplets
are common enough in the bible that scholars gave names to them.
I don't reconcile them and I don't think the people (or possibly a person)
who put them in had any reason to believe that they were anything but
stories of creation similar to many others of the time.
I don't believe the bible is the word of any god or gods.
All fair comments. I have no substantial argument with you. Others
might disagree though...
PCB
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23 Apr 2005 08:11:05 AM |
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Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
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| User: " R. L. Measures" |
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23 Apr 2005 10:09:30 AM |
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In article <426A4969.68B183B1@netcarrier.com>, Ronald Barnes
<blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
^^^ The geologic record tells those who will listen that Noah's Ark was a lark.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Antagonist for God" |
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23 Apr 2005 10:21:34 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:09:30 -0700, ( R.
L. Measures) spake thusly:
In article <426A4969.68B183B1@netcarrier.com>, Ronald Barnes
<blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
^^^ The geologic record tells those who will listen that Noah's Ark was a lark.
That's your conclusion. Others would disagree.
--
Antagonist for God
Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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23 Apr 2005 07:01:59 PM |
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In article <5vpk611182l4qghi9odpmvde99deft94di@4ax.com>, Antagonist for
God <news-group-mail@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:09:30 -0700, ( R.
L. Measures) spake thusly:
In article <426A4969.68B183B1@netcarrier.com>, Ronald Barnes
<blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
^^^ The geologic record tells those who will listen that Noah's Ark was
a lark.
That's your conclusion. Others would disagree.
Biblr-thumpers would, geologists wouldn't.
--
Rich. 805.386.3734
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| User: "Antagonist for God" |
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24 Apr 2005 07:35:51 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:01:59 -0700, ( R.
L. Measures) spake thusly:
In article <5vpk611182l4qghi9odpmvde99deft94di@4ax.com>, Antagonist for
God <news-group-mail@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:09:30 -0700, ( R.
L. Measures) spake thusly:
In article <426A4969.68B183B1@netcarrier.com>, Ronald Barnes
<blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
^^^ The geologic record tells those who will listen that Noah's Ark was
a lark.
That's your conclusion. Others would disagree.
Biblr-thumpers would, geologists wouldn't.
Are you claiming that every geologist would agree with
your statement?
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Antagonist for God
Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
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