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"Dr Tam" |
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04 Apr 2005 10:02:18 PM |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm
A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a planet
beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought to
be like a young version of our Sun.
Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists believe
the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.
The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in the
journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.
Dr Tam
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| User: "Antagonist for God" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
24 Apr 2005 11:14:31 PM |
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:50:57 -0700, (• R.
L. Measures) spake thusly:
^^^ The geologic record tells those who will listen
that Noah's Ark was a lark.
That's your conclusion. Others would disagree.
• Biblr-thumpers would, geologists wouldn't.
Are you claiming that every geologist would agree with
your statement?
• It's a concensus. There are still people who believe Earth is flat,
but the concensus is that is round.
Oh, I see. This is where you tell people that a REAL
scientists would agree with you. Is that correct?
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Antagonist for God
Silence in the Face of Doctrinal Criticism is Suicide
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/solution.html
http://tinyurl.com/ce97m
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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25 Apr 2005 06:49:18 AM |
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Antagonist for God wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 08:50:57 -0700, (• R.
L. Measures) spake thusly:
^^^ The geologic record tells those who will listen
that Noah's Ark was a lark.
That's your conclusion. Others would disagree.
• Biblr-thumpers would, geologists wouldn't.
Are you claiming that every geologist would agree with
your statement?
• It's a concensus. There are still people who believe Earth is flat,
but the concensus is that is round.
Oh, I see. This is where you tell people that a REAL
scientists would agree with you. Is that correct?
and this is the part where Dave tries to pretend he knows anything about
science.......
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Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
23 Apr 2005 04:53:42 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:21:34 GMT, Antagonist for God
<news-group-mail@nospam-tampa-bay.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 08:09:30 -0700, (• R.
L. Measures) spake thusly:
In article <426A4969.68B183B1@netcarrier.com>, Ronald Barnes
<blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
^^^ The geologic record tells those who will listen that Noah's Ark was a lark.
That's your conclusion. Others would disagree.
How did the Kiwis get to New Zealand after leaving the Ark?
PCB
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| User: "Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
23 Apr 2005 09:02:26 AM |
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Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
Bible Studier
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
23 Apr 2005 12:04:19 PM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:68lk61lhpj9f2lg8rdpu55dt53achb5ddj@4ax.com...
Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
So, you don't have proof that leprechauns don't exist.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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23 Apr 2005 04:53:01 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:04:19 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:68lk61lhpj9f2lg8rdpu55dt53achb5ddj@4ax.com...
Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
So, you don't have proof that leprechauns don't exist.
I've seen them...in Dublin.
PCB
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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25 Apr 2005 01:25:30 AM |
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In article <btgl611sh61ot0m2210l5rve0efk89f2cc@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
I've seen them...in Dublin.
After how many Guinnesses, exactly? ;)
--
The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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25 Apr 2005 03:57:37 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:25:30 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <btgl611sh61ot0m2210l5rve0efk89f2cc@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
I've seen them...in Dublin.
After how many Guinnesses, exactly? ;)
Several...heh...is this Phill from Cant Uni?
PCB
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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26 Apr 2005 03:24:20 AM |
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In article <97cp6110toc8rbcbpnp6tm3rcbnmhcttk0@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Several...heh...is this Phill from Cant Uni?
Cant Uni? No idea where that is mate. I'm an Aussie. :)
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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26 Apr 2005 05:54:03 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:24:20 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <97cp6110toc8rbcbpnp6tm3rcbnmhcttk0@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Several...heh...is this Phill from Cant Uni?
Cant Uni? No idea where that is mate. I'm an Aussie. :)
Ah ok...there's a guy over here, called Phil, who enjoys the skeptical
debate, from Cant Uni who is also referred to as the "The Great
Hairy", "Great Big Hairy" or words to that effect.
PCB
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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26 Apr 2005 04:09:40 PM |
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In article <7c7s611bq77tpdkd74sc8njrvjfq62duga@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Ah ok...there's a guy over here, called Phil, who enjoys the skeptical
debate, from Cant Uni who is also referred to as the "The Great
Hairy", "Great Big Hairy" or words to that effect.
Huh, sounds like I have a brother. I've had this nickname for about 18
years now, since I was at LaTrobe University, back in the late 80's.
Used to be very hairy, but now the beard is nice and neat and the long
hair only comes down to the shoulders.
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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26 Apr 2005 04:56:05 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:09:40 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <7c7s611bq77tpdkd74sc8njrvjfq62duga@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Ah ok...there's a guy over here, called Phil, who enjoys the skeptical
debate, from Cant Uni who is also referred to as the "The Great
Hairy", "Great Big Hairy" or words to that effect.
Huh, sounds like I have a brother. I've had this nickname for about 18
years now, since I was at LaTrobe University, back in the late 80's.
Used to be very hairy, but now the beard is nice and neat and the long
hair only comes down to the shoulders.
Do you habitually walk around in bare feet?
PCB
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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27 Apr 2005 07:38:19 AM |
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In article <u6et61tqu0ehn6dalg89g1snug090k69v6@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Do you habitually walk around in bare feet?
Er, no. I usually wear a suit and nice shoes. Comes from being an IT
manager.
(And having a wife!)
:)
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The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
(Remove spam block to email)
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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27 Apr 2005 04:39:39 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:38:19 +1000, The Great Hairy One
<the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote:
In article <u6et61tqu0ehn6dalg89g1snug090k69v6@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Do you habitually walk around in bare feet?
Er, no. I usually wear a suit and nice shoes. Comes from being an IT
manager.
(And having a wife!)
Heh...the other Hairy One is also in IT...but afaik...probably still
gets around in bare feet.
PCB
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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26 Apr 2005 07:23:53 AM |
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The Great Hairy One wrote:
In article <97cp6110toc8rbcbpnp6tm3rcbnmhcttk0@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Several...heh...is this Phill from Cant Uni?
Cant Uni? No idea where that is mate. I'm an Aussie. :)
Post Colonial boy is a Kiwi, Cant Uni is Canterbury Uni in
Christchurch ( I think )..... close...... but no cigar ......
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Post Colonial Boy" |
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26 Apr 2005 04:56:47 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:23:53 +1000, Masked Avenger
<cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Great Hairy One wrote:
In article <97cp6110toc8rbcbpnp6tm3rcbnmhcttk0@4ax.com>,
republican@email.com says...
Several...heh...is this Phill from Cant Uni?
Cant Uni? No idea where that is mate. I'm an Aussie. :)
Post Colonial boy is a Kiwi, Cant Uni is Canterbury Uni in
Christchurch ( I think )..... close...... but no cigar ......
Masked Avenger is correct...
PCB
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| User: "Jochen Lueg" |
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23 Apr 2005 09:56:30 AM |
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In article <68lk61lhpj9f2lg8rdpu55dt53achb5ddj@4ax.com>,
Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
Anybody can make up anything at all in such a way that it cannot be
disproved.
For instance, I get visited every evening around seven o'clock by a green
Martian who pinches part of my dinner. Trouble is, the bugger is so clever
only I can see him, my wife is totally unaware of him.
Now prove to me that I am wrong.
Alternatively, there were several other floods earlier than Noah's and
what people think is Noah's flood is really another flood altogether -
just prove to me that that is wrong.
Jochen
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If you want to learn about Limavady, why not try
http://www.binevenagh.com
for some local history, photographs and the Roe Valley News Browser.
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| User: "Mephisto" |
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24 Apr 2005 10:48:22 AM |
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:02:26 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
There is plenty of proof that it never happened. For a start, you can
look at the genetic make-up of every animal on the planet. That tells
us that all living things are not descended from a single pair of each
species within the last 10,000 years. That is conclusive proof that
the Noah story is a fabrication.
If you look at the measurements of the Ark, it would not be physically
possible to fit even a tiny fraction of the world's species on it, lat
alone their food supply. That also demonstrates that what is written
in the bible is not true. If they made up all the crap about every
animal being wiped out apart from the ones on the Ark, who's to say
the whole story is not a fabrication?
There's also the 'evil ducks' aspect which Eddie Izzard so brilliantly
pointed out. If every species needed to be reduced to a single pair,
in what way did sending a flood kill the aquatic species?
On top of that, we have the proof from the many layers of earth which
have been examined by archaeologists and geologists, and which show no
sign of a flood of that magnitude within the timescale suggested by
the bible. As a catastrophic event like that would have left massive
traces, that is also proof that it never happened.
In addition, there is the fact that the flood is not mentioned
anywhere else. It would undoubtedly have turned up in many written
traditions if it had happened. It does not.
The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
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| User: "Wonder" |
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24 Apr 2005 11:02:08 AM |
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Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:02:26 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
There is plenty of proof that it never happened. For a start, you can
look at the genetic make-up of every animal on the planet. That tells
us that all living things are not descended from a single pair of each
species within the last 10,000 years. That is conclusive proof that
the Noah story is a fabrication.
If you look at the measurements of the Ark, it would not be physically
possible to fit even a tiny fraction of the world's species on it, lat
alone their food supply. That also demonstrates that what is written
in the bible is not true. If they made up all the crap about every
animal being wiped out apart from the ones on the Ark, who's to say
the whole story is not a fabrication?
There's also the 'evil ducks' aspect which Eddie Izzard so brilliantly
pointed out. If every species needed to be reduced to a single pair,
in what way did sending a flood kill the aquatic species?
On top of that, we have the proof from the many layers of earth which
have been examined by archaeologists and geologists, and which show no
sign of a flood of that magnitude within the timescale suggested by
the bible. As a catastrophic event like that would have left massive
traces, that is also proof that it never happened.
In addition, there is the fact that the flood is not mentioned
anywhere else. It would undoubtedly have turned up in many written
traditions if it had happened. It does not.
The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
God made it possible.
Bible Studier
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24 Apr 2005 01:01:49 PM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pkgn61lfp83ago3naafa3b8l38tdvo7rnv@4ax.com...
Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote:
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The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
God made it possible.
Yeah, and there's an invisible drunken leprechaun dancing on top of my
computer monitor.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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24 Apr 2005 11:37:08 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pkgn61lfp83ago3naafa3b8l38tdvo7rnv@4ax.com...
Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote:
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The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
God made it possible.
Yeah, and there's an invisible drunken leprechaun dancing on top of my
computer monitor.
You and Mr Satan do get up to some strange things on the weekends ... ;)
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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25 Apr 2005 08:04:57 AM |
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"Masked Avenger" <cootey_59@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:426c73fe$0$4657$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pkgn61lfp83ago3naafa3b8l38tdvo7rnv@4ax.com...
Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote:
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The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
God made it possible.
Yeah, and there's an invisible drunken leprechaun dancing on top of my
computer monitor.
You and Mr Satan do get up to some strange things on the weekends ... ;)
Well, we do our best to keep the witchling entertained ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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25 Apr 2005 01:28:11 AM |
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In article <pkgn61lfp83ago3naafa3b8l38tdvo7rnv@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
God made it possible.
Uh-huh. And then this god-concept erased all the evidence, removed
anything to support these events and covered everything up.
Isn't that just a little dishonest?
Cheers,
TGHO
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The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Apr 2005 08:11:18 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cd73906515f3aa198979b@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <pkgn61lfp83ago3naafa3b8l38tdvo7rnv@4ax.com>,
nospam@hotmail.com says...
Gidday BS,
God made it possible.
Uh-huh. And then this god-concept erased all the evidence, removed
anything to support these events and covered everything up.
Isn't that just a little dishonest?
Don't forget that this god hid the dinosaur fossils in the ground "to trick
us" ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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26 Apr 2005 04:46:12 AM |
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In article <3d48j6F6qdi01U1@individual.net>,
says...
Don't forget that this god hid the dinosaur fossils in the ground "to trick
us" ;)
Yeah, good trick. So good, it took everyone in!
--
The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
====================================
CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
(Remove spam block to email)
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| User: "Mephisto" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
24 Apr 2005 11:45:32 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:02:08 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:02:26 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
There is plenty of proof that it never happened. For a start, you can
look at the genetic make-up of every animal on the planet. That tells
us that all living things are not descended from a single pair of each
species within the last 10,000 years. That is conclusive proof that
the Noah story is a fabrication.
If you look at the measurements of the Ark, it would not be physically
possible to fit even a tiny fraction of the world's species on it, lat
alone their food supply. That also demonstrates that what is written
in the bible is not true. If they made up all the crap about every
animal being wiped out apart from the ones on the Ark, who's to say
the whole story is not a fabrication?
There's also the 'evil ducks' aspect which Eddie Izzard so brilliantly
pointed out. If every species needed to be reduced to a single pair,
in what way did sending a flood kill the aquatic species?
On top of that, we have the proof from the many layers of earth which
have been examined by archaeologists and geologists, and which show no
sign of a flood of that magnitude within the timescale suggested by
the bible. As a catastrophic event like that would have left massive
traces, that is also proof that it never happened.
In addition, there is the fact that the flood is not mentioned
anywhere else. It would undoubtedly have turned up in many written
traditions if it had happened. It does not.
The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
God made it possible.
You didn't answer my question.
Why ask for evidence when you will discount it without even giving it
a second thought?
Mephisto
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25 Apr 2005 02:43:14 AM |
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Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 04:02:08 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mephisto <mephisto@go.away> wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 02:02:26 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ronald Barnes <blue8@netcarrier.com> wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
There is plenty of proof that it never happened. For a start, you can
look at the genetic make-up of every animal on the planet. That tells
us that all living things are not descended from a single pair of each
species within the last 10,000 years. That is conclusive proof that
the Noah story is a fabrication.
If you look at the measurements of the Ark, it would not be physically
possible to fit even a tiny fraction of the world's species on it, lat
alone their food supply. That also demonstrates that what is written
in the bible is not true. If they made up all the crap about every
animal being wiped out apart from the ones on the Ark, who's to say
the whole story is not a fabrication?
There's also the 'evil ducks' aspect which Eddie Izzard so brilliantly
pointed out. If every species needed to be reduced to a single pair,
in what way did sending a flood kill the aquatic species?
On top of that, we have the proof from the many layers of earth which
have been examined by archaeologists and geologists, and which show no
sign of a flood of that magnitude within the timescale suggested by
the bible. As a catastrophic event like that would have left massive
traces, that is also proof that it never happened.
In addition, there is the fact that the flood is not mentioned
anywhere else. It would undoubtedly have turned up in many written
traditions if it had happened. It does not.
The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
God made it possible.
You didn't answer my question.
Why ask for evidence when you will discount it without even giving it
a second thought?
Mephisto
It does interest me on what people say for or against what is written
in the bible. Like I said before there have been many posts for the
original subject so it's possible that I may have missed things while
reading the posts.
Bible Studier
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
25 Apr 2005 12:03:12 AM |
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Wonder wrote:
Wonder wrote:
What proof do you have that Noah's Flood never happened?
Bible Studier
If it can be proved that a herd of invisible black cats that fly through
everyone's bedrooms at midnight are not so, then maybe Noah's Ark can be
proved to be a negative.
So you don't have any proof that Noah's Flood never happened.
There is plenty of proof that it never happened. For a start, you can
look at the genetic make-up of every animal on the planet. That tells
us that all living things are not descended from a single pair of each
species within the last 10,000 years. That is conclusive proof that
the Noah story is a fabrication.
If you look at the measurements of the Ark, it would not be physically
possible to fit even a tiny fraction of the world's species on it, lat
alone their food supply. That also demonstrates that what is written
in the bible is not true. If they made up all the crap about every
animal being wiped out apart from the ones on the Ark, who's to say
the whole story is not a fabrication?
There's also the 'evil ducks' aspect which Eddie Izzard so brilliantly
pointed out. If every species needed to be reduced to a single pair,
in what way did sending a flood kill the aquatic species?
On top of that, we have the proof from the many layers of earth which
have been examined by archaeologists and geologists, and which show no
sign of a flood of that magnitude within the timescale suggested by
the bible. As a catastrophic event like that would have left massive
traces, that is also proof that it never happened.
In addition, there is the fact that the flood is not mentioned
anywhere else. It would undoubtedly have turned up in many written
traditions if it had happened. It does not.
The problem is not the lack of evidence - it's that you refuse to open
your eyes and look at it. Why ask for evidence when you will discount
it without even giving it a second thought?
Mephisto
God made it possible.
Bible Studier
ROFLMAO ... a genuine 'God Dunnit' ......... you just claimed in a
previous post that you 'weren't ignorant ' ........ now you are showing
your ignorance loud and clear ...... "Goddunnit" is NOT evidence of
anything except your pig ignorant education .... if God can break the
laws of Physics at will, then ALL our science is nonsense ....
God the great Practical Joker ? Floods the world some 6,000 years ago
and not only removes ALL trace of it, but alters the existing evidence
to make it look like it never happened !
And how do you know God made it possible ? Oh, that's right, you've got
a book of Bronze Age Fairy Tales that says so ....... well Boy Wonder, I
hope you can find some evidence to back up this claim ....
How did Noah keep the Koalas alive ? You know they can only eat 'fresh'
gum leaves .... ? For that matter how did Noah get to Australia ? Or New
Zealand ? Did the Kiwis swim all the way back from the Middle East.....?
I can give you a thousand more of these questions ..... but just answer
these for starters .....
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Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
25 Apr 2005 01:29:51 AM |
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In article <426c7a24$0$5177$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, cootey_59
@yahoo.com says...
ROFLMAO ... a genuine 'God Dunnit' ......... you just claimed in a
previous post that you 'weren't ignorant ' ........ now you are showing
your ignorance loud and clear ...... "Goddunnit" is NOT evidence of
anything except your pig ignorant education .... if God can break the
laws of Physics at will, then ALL our science is nonsense ....
God the great Practical Joker ? Floods the world some 6,000 years ago
and not only removes ALL trace of it, but alters the existing evidence
to make it look like it never happened !
And how do you know God made it possible ? Oh, that's right, you've got
a book of Bronze Age Fairy Tales that says so ....... well Boy Wonder, I
hope you can find some evidence to back up this claim ....
How did Noah keep the Koalas alive ? You know they can only eat 'fresh'
gum leaves .... ? For that matter how did Noah get to Australia ? Or New
Zealand ? Did the Kiwis swim all the way back from the Middle East.....?
I can give you a thousand more of these questions ..... but just answer
these for starters .....
Don't forget the carnivorous koalas. We don't like to tell tourists
about them, but they do exist. Seriously. We lose about 3 tourists a
year to those beast.
--
The Great Hairy One
ANZAC Day
Lest We Forget
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Isn't incest wrong Pastor Dave? |
25 Apr 2005 08:05:35 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1cd7396f3e3245cd98979c@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <426c7a24$0$5177$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>, cootey_59
@yahoo.com says...
ROFLMAO ... a genuine 'God Dunnit' ......... you just claimed in a
previous post that you 'weren't ignorant ' ........ now you are showing
your ignorance loud and clear ...... "Goddunnit" is NOT evidence of
anything except your pig ignorant education .... if God can break the
laws of Physics at will, then ALL our science is nonsense ....
God the great Practical Joker ? Floods the world some 6,000 years ago
and not only removes ALL trace of it, but alters the existing evidence
to make it look like it never happened !
And how do you know God made it possible ? Oh, that's right, you've got
a book of Bronze Age Fairy Tales that says so ....... well Boy Wonder, I
hope you can find some evidence to back up this claim ....
How did Noah keep the Koalas alive ? You know they can only eat 'fresh'
gum leaves .... ? For that matter how did Noah get to Australia ? Or New
Zealand ? Did the Kiwis swim all the way back from the Middle East.....?
I can give you a thousand more of these questions ..... but just answer
these for starters .....
Don't forget the carnivorous koalas. We don't like to tell tourists
about them, but they do exist. Seriously. We lose about 3 tourists a
year to those beast.
Aren't those the infamous "drop bears"? :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Bride of Satan
#1557
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