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"Dr Tam" |
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04 Apr 2005 10:02:18 PM |
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Creation |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm
A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a planet
beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought to
be like a young version of our Sun.
Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists believe
the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.
The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in the
journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.
Dr Tam
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15 Apr 2005 09:32:19 PM |
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Ned Kelly <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:59:21 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other. They did not have human parents. It was the will of god that
they mate and have children.
Yes...we're assuming that for the sake of argument...so they had
children who were *not* the product of incest yes...acceptable...but
where did the next generation come from then?
Ned
Read the rest of the life of Adam and Eve for some answers
The First Book of Adam and Eve
http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm
Bible Studier
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21 Apr 2005 12:27:41 AM |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:32:19 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ned Kelly <republican@email.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 00:59:21 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other. They did not have human parents. It was the will of god that
they mate and have children.
Yes...we're assuming that for the sake of argument...so they had
children who were *not* the product of incest yes...acceptable...but
where did the next generation come from then?
Ned
Read the rest of the life of Adam and Eve for some answers
The First Book of Adam and Eve
http://reluctant-messenger.com/eden_1.htm
"The First Book of Adam and Eve details the life and times of Adam and
Eve after they were expelled from the garden to the time that Cain
kills his brother Abel. It tells of Adam and Eve's first dwelling -
the Cave of Treasures; their trials and temptations; Satan's many
apparitions to them; the birth of Cain, Abel, and their twin sisters;
and Cain's love for his beautiful twin sister, Luluwa, whom Adam and
Eve wished to join to Abel. "
Sounds like incest to me...
PCB
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| User: "Féachadóir" |
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15 Apr 2005 08:27:00 AM |
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Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
They did not have human parents. It was the will of god that
they mate and have children.
Bible Studier
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'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
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| User: "Wonder" |
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15 Apr 2005 08:53:27 AM |
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Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
Bible Studier
They did not have human parents. It was the will of god that
they mate and have children.
Bible Studier
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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15 Apr 2005 09:03:26 AM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com...
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
That doesn't make any sense.
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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15 Apr 2005 09:24:41 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com...
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
That doesn't make any sense.
To put it another way for Eve to be attracted to Adam then Eve would
need to be a woman. Adam would not be attached to himself if the clone
was another male.
Bible Studier
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15 Apr 2005 09:27:43 AM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com...
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the
third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
That doesn't make any sense.
To put it another way for Eve to be attracted to Adam then Eve would
need to be a woman.
Or a gay man.
Adam would not be attached to himself if the clone
was another male.
Ooooh, you never know...............
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "JesusFREAKout" |
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28 Jan 2008 09:21:42 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com...
F=E9achad=F3ir <F=E9ach@d.=F3ir> wrote:
Scr=EDobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
That doesn't make any sense.
To put it another way for Eve to be attracted to Adam then Eve would
need to be a woman. Adam would not be attached to himself if the clone
was another male.
Sorry, but a *story* of Adam & Steve makes JUST as much (fablistic) sense...
Bible Studier
--
Religion(s) require Spirituality; *TRUE* Spirituality NEEDS NOT a religion of
*any* kind...
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29 Jan 2008 01:25:26 AM |
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"JesusFREAKout" <JesusFREAKout@PEDOpreacherSUCKOFFS.com> wrote in message
The Troubles of Matthew Mahoney
In a little town in Devonshire, in the mellow September moonlight,
A gentleman passing along a street saw a pitiful sight,
A man bending over the form of a woman on the pavement.
He was uttering plaintive words and seemingly discontent.
"What's the matter with the woman?" asked the gentleman,
As the poor, fallen woman he did narrowly scan.
"There's something the matter, as yer honour can see,
But it's not right to prate about my wife, blame me."
"Is that really your wife?" said the gentleman.
"Yes, sor, but she looks very pale and wan."
"But surely she is much younger than you?"
"Only fourteen years, sor, that is thrue."
"It's myself that looks a deal oulder nor I really am,
Throuble have whitened my heir, my good gintleman,
Which was once as black as the wings of a crow,
And it's throuble as is dyed it as white as the snow.
Come, my dear sowl, Bridget, it's past nine o'clock,
And to see yez lying there it gives my heart a shock."
And he smoothed away the raven hair from her forehead,
And her hands hung heavily as if she had been dead.
The gentleman saw what was the matter and he sighed again,
And he said, "It's a great trial and must give you pain,
But I see you are willing to help her all you can."
But the encouraging words was not lost upon the Irishman.
"Thrial!" he echoed, "Don't mintion it, yer honour,
But the blessing of God rest upon her.
Poor crathur, she's good barrin' this one fault,
And by any one I don't like to hear her miscault."
"What was the reason of her taking to drink?"
"Bless yer honour, that's jest what I oftentimes think,
Some things is done without any rason at all,
And, sure, this one to me is a great downfall.
'Ah, Bridget, my darlin', I never dreamt ye'd come to this,"
And stooping down, her cheek he did kiss.
While a glittering tear flashed in the moonlight to the ground,
For the poor husband's grief was really profound.
"Have you any children?" asked the gentleman.
"No, yer honour, bless the Lord, contented I am,
I wouldn't have the lambs know any harm o' their mother,
Besides, sor, to me they would be a great bother."
"What is your trade, my good man?"
"Gardening, sor, and mighty fond of it I am.
Kind sor, I am out of a job and I am dying with sorrow."
"Well, you can call at my house by ten o'clock to-morrow.
"And I'll see what I can do for you.
Now, hasten home with your wife, and I bid you adieu.
But stay, my good man, I did not ask your name."
"My name is Matthew Mahoney, after Father Matthew of great fame,"
Then Mahoney stooped and lifted Bridget tenderly,
And carried her home in his arms cheerfully,
And put her to bed while he felt quite content,
Still hoping Bridget would see the folly of drinking and repent.
And at ten o'clock next morning Matthew was at Blandford Hall,
And politely for Mr Gillespie he did call,
But he was told Mrs Gillespie he would see,
And was invited into the parlour cheerfully.
And when Mrs Gillespie entered the room
She said, "Matthew Mahoney, I suppose you want to know your doom.
Well, Matthew, tell your wife to call here to-morrow."
"I'll ax her, my lady, for my heart's full of sorrow."
So Matthew got his wife to make her appearance at Blandford Hall,
And, trembling, upon Mrs Gillespie poor Bridget did call,
And had a pleasant interview with Mrs Gillespie,
And was told she was wanted for a new lodge-keeper immediately.
"But, Bridget, my dear woman, you mustn't drink any more,
For you have got a good husband you ought to adore,
And Mr Gillespie will help you, I'm sure,
Because he is very kind to deserving poor."
And Bridget's repentance was hearty and sincere,
And by the grace of God she never drank whisky, rum, or beer,
And good thoughts come into her mind of Heaven above,
And Matthew Mahoney dearly does her love.
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29 Jan 2008 09:20:52 AM |
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"JesusFREAKout" <JesusFREAKout@PEDOpreacherSUCKOFFS.com> wrote in message
news:uKidnXuz2qBbBgPaRVnyggA@giganews.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com...
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
That doesn't make any sense.
To put it another way for Eve to be attracted to Adam then Eve would
need to be a woman. Adam would not be attached to himself if the clone
was another male.
Sorry, but a *story* of Adam & Steve makes JUST as much (fablistic)
sense...
Excuse me? I didn't write what you're replying to.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Ned Kelly" |
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15 Apr 2005 04:24:06 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 02:24:41 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com...
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
That doesn't make any sense.
To put it another way for Eve to be attracted to Adam then Eve would
need to be a woman. Adam would not be attached to himself if the clone
was another male.
Indeed but Eve was still made from a 'bit' of Adam...its about as
'related' as someone can possibly be...notwithstanding the questions
about the origins of their grandchildren...
Ned
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28 Jan 2008 09:23:13 PM |
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"Wonder" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com...
F=E9achad=F3ir <F=E9ach@d.=F3ir> wrote:
Scr=EDobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
That doesn't make any sense.
Please don't tell me you were expecting some? <bFg>
--
"Brainscrub some Christinsanity out today - save a nation tomorrow"
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| User: "Nebulous" |
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29 Jan 2008 01:30:32 AM |
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"Crackpots-4-Christ" <j.wuest@comcast.net> wrote in message
The Troubles of Matthew Mahoney
In a little town in Devonshire, in the mellow September moonlight,
A gentleman passing along a street saw a pitiful sight,
A man bending over the form of a woman on the pavement.
He was uttering plaintive words and seemingly discontent.
"What's the matter with the woman?" asked the gentleman,
As the poor, fallen woman he did narrowly scan.
"There's something the matter, as yer honour can see,
But it's not right to prate about my wife, blame me."
"Is that really your wife?" said the gentleman.
"Yes, sor, but she looks very pale and wan."
"But surely she is much younger than you?"
"Only fourteen years, sor, that is thrue."
"It's myself that looks a deal oulder nor I really am,
Throuble have whitened my heir, my good gintleman,
Which was once as black as the wings of a crow,
And it's throuble as is dyed it as white as the snow.
Come, my dear sowl, Bridget, it's past nine o'clock,
And to see yez lying there it gives my heart a shock."
And he smoothed away the raven hair from her forehead,
And her hands hung heavily as if she had been dead.
The gentleman saw what was the matter and he sighed again,
And he said, "It's a great trial and must give you pain,
But I see you are willing to help her all you can."
But the encouraging words was not lost upon the Irishman.
"Thrial!" he echoed, "Don't mintion it, yer honour,
But the blessing of God rest upon her.
Poor crathur, she's good barrin' this one fault,
And by any one I don't like to hear her miscault."
"What was the reason of her taking to drink?"
"Bless yer honour, that's jest what I oftentimes think,
Some things is done without any rason at all,
And, sure, this one to me is a great downfall.
'Ah, Bridget, my darlin', I never dreamt ye'd come to this,"
And stooping down, her cheek he did kiss.
While a glittering tear flashed in the moonlight to the ground,
For the poor husband's grief was really profound.
"Have you any children?" asked the gentleman.
"No, yer honour, bless the Lord, contented I am,
I wouldn't have the lambs know any harm o' their mother,
Besides, sor, to me they would be a great bother."
"What is your trade, my good man?"
"Gardening, sor, and mighty fond of it I am.
Kind sor, I am out of a job and I am dying with sorrow."
"Well, you can call at my house by ten o'clock to-morrow.
"And I'll see what I can do for you.
Now, hasten home with your wife, and I bid you adieu.
But stay, my good man, I did not ask your name."
"My name is Matthew Mahoney, after Father Matthew of great fame,"
Then Mahoney stooped and lifted Bridget tenderly,
And carried her home in his arms cheerfully,
And put her to bed while he felt quite content,
Still hoping Bridget would see the folly of drinking and repent.
And at ten o'clock next morning Matthew was at Blandford Hall,
And politely for Mr Gillespie he did call,
But he was told Mrs Gillespie he would see,
And was invited into the parlour cheerfully.
And when Mrs Gillespie entered the room
She said, "Matthew Mahoney, I suppose you want to know your doom.
Well, Matthew, tell your wife to call here to-morrow."
"I'll ax her, my lady, for my heart's full of sorrow."
So Matthew got his wife to make her appearance at Blandford Hall,
And, trembling, upon Mrs Gillespie poor Bridget did call,
And had a pleasant interview with Mrs Gillespie,
And was told she was wanted for a new lodge-keeper immediately.
"But, Bridget, my dear woman, you mustn't drink any more,
For you have got a good husband you ought to adore,
And Mr Gillespie will help you, I'm sure,
Because he is very kind to deserving poor."
And Bridget's repentance was hearty and sincere,
And by the grace of God she never drank whisky, rum, or beer,
And good thoughts come into her mind of Heaven above,
And Matthew Mahoney dearly does her love.
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16 Apr 2005 04:54:10 PM |
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In article <snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com>,
Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
Isn't there such a thing as 'duty' any more
Jochen
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If you want to learn about Limavady, why not try
http://www.binevenagh.com
for some local history, photographs and the Roe Valley News Browser.
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17 Apr 2005 06:39:33 AM |
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Jochen Lueg <jl@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com>,
Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
Isn't there such a thing as 'duty' any more
Jochen
duty? Please expain what you mean.
Bible studier
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| User: "KKKill-4-KKKhrist" |
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28 Jan 2008 09:21:56 PM |
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Jochen Lueg <jl@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com>,
Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
F=E9achad=F3ir <F=E9ach@d.=F3ir> wrote:
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
Isn't there such a thing as 'duty' any more
Jochen
duty? Please expain what you mean.
Ever here of the word "faith"...
Bible studier
It's your *duty* to kill Muslims because they kill "God's" children...now go
volunteer (Air Force would be good for Sky Pilots like you) so you can do
some "real" good work for god...
--
THEE American Military Wants YOU
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29 Jan 2008 01:26:05 AM |
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"KKKill-4-KKKhrist" <captmicro@msn.com> wrote in message
The Troubles of Matthew Mahoney
In a little town in Devonshire, in the mellow September moonlight,
A gentleman passing along a street saw a pitiful sight,
A man bending over the form of a woman on the pavement.
He was uttering plaintive words and seemingly discontent.
"What's the matter with the woman?" asked the gentleman,
As the poor, fallen woman he did narrowly scan.
"There's something the matter, as yer honour can see,
But it's not right to prate about my wife, blame me."
"Is that really your wife?" said the gentleman.
"Yes, sor, but she looks very pale and wan."
"But surely she is much younger than you?"
"Only fourteen years, sor, that is thrue."
"It's myself that looks a deal oulder nor I really am,
Throuble have whitened my heir, my good gintleman,
Which was once as black as the wings of a crow,
And it's throuble as is dyed it as white as the snow.
Come, my dear sowl, Bridget, it's past nine o'clock,
And to see yez lying there it gives my heart a shock."
And he smoothed away the raven hair from her forehead,
And her hands hung heavily as if she had been dead.
The gentleman saw what was the matter and he sighed again,
And he said, "It's a great trial and must give you pain,
But I see you are willing to help her all you can."
But the encouraging words was not lost upon the Irishman.
"Thrial!" he echoed, "Don't mintion it, yer honour,
But the blessing of God rest upon her.
Poor crathur, she's good barrin' this one fault,
And by any one I don't like to hear her miscault."
"What was the reason of her taking to drink?"
"Bless yer honour, that's jest what I oftentimes think,
Some things is done without any rason at all,
And, sure, this one to me is a great downfall.
'Ah, Bridget, my darlin', I never dreamt ye'd come to this,"
And stooping down, her cheek he did kiss.
While a glittering tear flashed in the moonlight to the ground,
For the poor husband's grief was really profound.
"Have you any children?" asked the gentleman.
"No, yer honour, bless the Lord, contented I am,
I wouldn't have the lambs know any harm o' their mother,
Besides, sor, to me they would be a great bother."
"What is your trade, my good man?"
"Gardening, sor, and mighty fond of it I am.
Kind sor, I am out of a job and I am dying with sorrow."
"Well, you can call at my house by ten o'clock to-morrow.
"And I'll see what I can do for you.
Now, hasten home with your wife, and I bid you adieu.
But stay, my good man, I did not ask your name."
"My name is Matthew Mahoney, after Father Matthew of great fame,"
Then Mahoney stooped and lifted Bridget tenderly,
And carried her home in his arms cheerfully,
And put her to bed while he felt quite content,
Still hoping Bridget would see the folly of drinking and repent.
And at ten o'clock next morning Matthew was at Blandford Hall,
And politely for Mr Gillespie he did call,
But he was told Mrs Gillespie he would see,
And was invited into the parlour cheerfully.
And when Mrs Gillespie entered the room
She said, "Matthew Mahoney, I suppose you want to know your doom.
Well, Matthew, tell your wife to call here to-morrow."
"I'll ax her, my lady, for my heart's full of sorrow."
So Matthew got his wife to make her appearance at Blandford Hall,
And, trembling, upon Mrs Gillespie poor Bridget did call,
And had a pleasant interview with Mrs Gillespie,
And was told she was wanted for a new lodge-keeper immediately.
"But, Bridget, my dear woman, you mustn't drink any more,
For you have got a good husband you ought to adore,
And Mr Gillespie will help you, I'm sure,
Because he is very kind to deserving poor."
And Bridget's repentance was hearty and sincere,
And by the grace of God she never drank whisky, rum, or beer,
And good thoughts come into her mind of Heaven above,
And Matthew Mahoney dearly does her love.
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| User: "Jochen Lueg" |
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17 Apr 2005 12:22:21 PM |
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In article <nmi461hspecbdkbnhi8pjn1ct7vddouh03@4ax.com>,
Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Jochen Lueg <jl@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
In article <snhv5153bodmo5qki6ersruls6i3mgbf7v@4ax.com>,
Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
Isn't there such a thing as 'duty' any more
Jochen
duty? Please expain what you mean.
Well, when he said: "Go forth and multiply" he didn't say anything about
enjoying it. So there is no reason not to multiply even if you hate the
others guts - theoretically speaking.
Come to think of it - many women are exactly in that position.
Jochen
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| User: "Ned Kelly" |
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15 Apr 2005 04:23:09 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:53:27 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Féachadóir <Féach@d.óir> wrote:
Scríobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
Indeed but that is irrelevant...Eve was made from a 'bit' of Adam so
clearly they were genetically identical...but how could they be XX &
XY...female & male etc...
Ned
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| User: "Chris Teeanutt" |
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28 Jan 2008 09:22:50 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:53:27 +1200, Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
F=E9achad=F3ir <F=E9ach@d.=F3ir> wrote:
Scr=EDobh Wonder <nospam@hotmail.com>:
Ninth Commandment <ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
As Adam and Eve were the first humans they were not related to each
other.
A literal reading of the text would suggest that Eve was cloned from
Adam.
That's true but to mate you need to be attracted to each other so Eve
would be different from Adam.
Indeed but that is irrelevant...Eve was made from a 'bit' of Adam so
clearly they were genetically identical...but how could they be XX &
XY...female & male etc...
You lost 'em there...way to "scientific" I'm afraid lol
Ned
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Jesus, Son Of God (and Da'Virgin Mary) raised by STEPdad Joseph, is nothing
buttaholy bASStyrd...which reminds me...just who is the grandFATHER of the
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| User: "Nebulous" |
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29 Jan 2008 01:28:53 AM |
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"Chris Teeanutt" <smartin562@comcast.net> wrote in message
The Troubles of Matthew Mahoney
In a little town in Devonshire, in the mellow September moonlight,
A gentleman passing along a street saw a pitiful sight,
A man bending over the form of a woman on the pavement.
He was uttering plaintive words and seemingly discontent.
"What's the matter with the woman?" asked the gentleman,
As the poor, fallen woman he did narrowly scan.
"There's something the matter, as yer honour can see,
But it's not right to prate about my wife, blame me."
"Is that really your wife?" said the gentleman.
"Yes, sor, but she looks very pale and wan."
"But surely she is much younger than you?"
"Only fourteen years, sor, that is thrue."
"It's myself that looks a deal oulder nor I really am,
Throuble have whitened my heir, my good gintleman,
Which was once as black as the wings of a crow,
And it's throuble as is dyed it as white as the snow.
Come, my dear sowl, Bridget, it's past nine o'clock,
And to see yez lying there it gives my heart a shock."
And he smoothed away the raven hair from her forehead,
And her hands hung heavily as if she had been dead.
The gentleman saw what was the matter and he sighed again,
And he said, "It's a great trial and must give you pain,
But I see you are willing to help her all you can."
But the encouraging words was not lost upon the Irishman.
"Thrial!" he echoed, "Don't mintion it, yer honour,
But the blessing of God rest upon her.
Poor crathur, she's good barrin' this one fault,
And by any one I don't like to hear her miscault."
"What was the reason of her taking to drink?"
"Bless yer honour, that's jest what I oftentimes think,
Some things is done without any rason at all,
And, sure, this one to me is a great downfall.
'Ah, Bridget, my darlin', I never dreamt ye'd come to this,"
And stooping down, her cheek he did kiss.
While a glittering tear flashed in the moonlight to the ground,
For the poor husband's grief was really profound.
"Have you any children?" asked the gentleman.
"No, yer honour, bless the Lord, contented I am,
I wouldn't have the lambs know any harm o' their mother,
Besides, sor, to me they would be a great bother."
"What is your trade, my good man?"
"Gardening, sor, and mighty fond of it I am.
Kind sor, I am out of a job and I am dying with sorrow."
"Well, you can call at my house by ten o'clock to-morrow.
"And I'll see what I can do for you.
Now, hasten home with your wife, and I bid you adieu.
But stay, my good man, I did not ask your name."
"My name is Matthew Mahoney, after Father Matthew of great fame,"
Then Mahoney stooped and lifted Bridget tenderly,
And carried her home in his arms cheerfully,
And put her to bed while he felt quite content,
Still hoping Bridget would see the folly of drinking and repent.
And at ten o'clock next morning Matthew was at Blandford Hall,
And politely for Mr Gillespie he did call,
But he was told Mrs Gillespie he would see,
And was invited into the parlour cheerfully.
And when Mrs Gillespie entered the room
She said, "Matthew Mahoney, I suppose you want to know your doom.
Well, Matthew, tell your wife to call here to-morrow."
"I'll ax her, my lady, for my heart's full of sorrow."
So Matthew got his wife to make her appearance at Blandford Hall,
And, trembling, upon Mrs Gillespie poor Bridget did call,
And had a pleasant interview with Mrs Gillespie,
And was told she was wanted for a new lodge-keeper immediately.
"But, Bridget, my dear woman, you mustn't drink any more,
For you have got a good husband you ought to adore,
And Mr Gillespie will help you, I'm sure,
Because he is very kind to deserving poor."
And Bridget's repentance was hearty and sincere,
And by the grace of God she never drank whisky, rum, or beer,
And good thoughts come into her mind of Heaven above,
And Matthew Mahoney dearly does her love.
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| User: "Ned Kelly" |
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15 Apr 2005 04:18:51 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:56:47 GMT, Ninth Commandment
<ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
I've heard of the Elohim. Could you please provide a Biblical
reference to them to me please?
Ned
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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15 Apr 2005 05:48:38 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:56:47 GMT, Ninth Commandment
<ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
I've heard of the Elohim. Could you please provide a Biblical
reference to them to me please?
Ned
I can.
Gen 1:1 "God" is the English translation of Elohim.
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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15 Apr 2005 09:22:12 PM |
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"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:55h061p9vfvdof0b883jp6kq2vc5923j2s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:56:47 GMT, Ninth Commandment
<ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
I've heard of the Elohim. Could you please provide a Biblical
reference to them to me please?
Ned
I can.
Gen 1:1 "God" is the English translation of Elohim.
I was always told that the Elohim were what are now commonly known as
"angels"
Or was that your god screwing everyone?
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| User: "Bible Bob" |
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15 Apr 2005 10:53:44 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:22:12 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:55h061p9vfvdof0b883jp6kq2vc5923j2s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:56:47 GMT, Ninth Commandment
<ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
I've heard of the Elohim. Could you please provide a Biblical
reference to them to me please?
Ned
I can.
Gen 1:1 "God" is the English translation of Elohim.
I was always told that the Elohim were what are now commonly known as
"angels"
Or was that your god screwing everyone?
Are you talking about Genesis 6?
Non-commercial website where everything is free.
http://www.biblebob.net
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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16 Apr 2005 07:39:32 AM |
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"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:22:12 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Bible Bob" <biblebobnospam@biblebob.net> wrote in message
news:55h061p9vfvdof0b883jp6kq2vc5923j2s@4ax.com...
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:18:51 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 01:56:47 GMT, Ninth Commandment
<ninthcommandment@yabbadabbadoo.com> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 17:57:40 +1200, Ned Kelly <republican@email.com>
wrote:
Tell me, if Adam and Eve were the first humans then didn't the third
generation come about by incest?
Isn't that wrong according to God?
Ned
Unfortunatly there were lots of Elohim running around at the time.
I've heard of the Elohim. Could you please provide a Biblical
reference to them to me please?
Ned
I can.
Gen 1:1 "God" is the English translation of Elohim.
I was always told that the Elohim were what are now commonly known as
"angels"
Or was that your god screwing everyone?
Are you talking about Genesis 6?
Beats me.
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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17 Apr 2005 12:49:22 AM |
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In article <3ccfc4F6n1hktU1@individual.net>,
says...
Beats me.
Oooo, can I?!?!
:P
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The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
(Remove spam block to email)
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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17 Apr 2005 07:16:46 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ccca3efedf090ae989691@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <3ccfc4F6n1hktU1@individual.net>,
says...
Beats me.
Oooo, can I?!?!
Weeeelll, the husband IS out of town...................... ;)
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Resident Witchypoo
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| User: "The Great Hairy One" |
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17 Apr 2005 07:28:55 AM |
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In article <3cf2dcF6nfdf6U1@individual.net>,
says...
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ccca3efedf090ae989691@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <3ccfc4F6n1hktU1@individual.net>,
says...
Beats me.
Oooo, can I?!?!
Weeeelll, the husband IS out of town...................... ;)
And Liquid Grace has just gone for a long walk.... :P
How are you Robin? How's things?
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The Great Hairy One,
ICQ: 118086514
All BAAWA and blue
SMASH! Aha! They'll save every one of us!
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CEO EAC Roleplaying Division
The last thing many players
hear is me asking for 45d6...
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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17 Apr 2005 10:40:01 AM |
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"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ccd0196979e567898969b@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <3cf2dcF6nfdf6U1@individual.net>,
says...
"The Great Hairy One" <the.great.hairy@GEEmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ccca3efedf090ae989691@freenews.iinet.net.au...
In article <3ccfc4F6n1hktU1@individual.net>,
says...
Beats me.
Oooo, can I?!?!
Weeeelll, the husband IS out of town...................... ;)
And Liquid Grace has just gone for a long walk.... :P
How are you Robin? How's things?
Things are going well thanks, though the witchling's just getting over an
upper-respiratory virus that's making the rounds through her school. She's
pretty chipper today. I was laid off from Sony electronics last August and
took an extremely delightful six months off. I now work for a company that
designs and installs computer networks in schools. The family is well and
the cats are their usual silly selves.
How are you guys doing? :)
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