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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Dr Tam"
Date: 04 Apr 2005 10:02:18 PM
Object: Creation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm
A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a planet
beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought to
be like a young version of our Sun.
Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists believe
the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.
The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in the
journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.
Dr Tam
.

User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: Creation 04 Apr 2005 10:46:30 PM
"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought to
be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.



Dr Tam

In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
.
User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 01:24:53 AM
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S
.
User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 02:05:34 PM
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup -

thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team

in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about

400

light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.

Your statements are mutually exclusive.
First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky Pixie,
and Creation is a farce.
Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.
Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
.
User: "Alan Hardie"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 02:20:03 PM
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:2kB4e.33845$ij5.31741@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...



God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky

Pixie,

and Creation is a farce.

Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.

Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.

Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...
.
User: "The other Donald"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 02:20:17 PM
"Alan Hardie" <axhardie@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112728697.14906.0@lotis.uk.clara.net...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:2kB4e.33845$ij5.31741@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...



God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky

Pixie,

and Creation is a farce.

Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.

Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...

And what would that be?
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
.
User: "Alan Hardie"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 02:46:29 PM
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:RxB4e.33853$ij5.2161@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Alan Hardie" <axhardie@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112728697.14906.0@lotis.uk.clara.net...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:2kB4e.33845$ij5.31741@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...



God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky

Pixie,

and Creation is a farce.

Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years

old.


Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...


And what would that be?

Believing Adam Whyte-Settlar.
.
User: "Cory Bhreckan"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 03:51:12 PM
Alan Hardie wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:RxB4e.33853$ij5.2161@tornado.texas.rr.com...

"Alan Hardie" <axhardie@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112728697.14906.0@lotis.uk.clara.net...

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:2kB4e.33845$ij5.31741@tornado.texas.rr.com...

"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...



God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky


Pixie,

and Creation is a farce.

Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years


old.

Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...


And what would that be?



Believing Adam Whyte-Settlar.

One of the resident sh*te stirrer for s.c.s
.
User: "Alan Hardie"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 04:57:11 PM
"Cory Bhreckan" <CBhreckan@maelstrom.com> wrote in message
news:4252fb03$1@news101.his.com...

Alan Hardie wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:RxB4e.33853$ij5.2161@tornado.texas.rr.com...


Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...


And what would that be?



Believing Adam Whyte-Settlar.


One of the resident sh*te stirrer for s.c.s

And accomplished at it...
.
User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Title: Re: Creation 07 Apr 2005 03:43:38 AM
"Alan Hardie" <axhardie@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112738148.27711.0@damia.uk.clara.net...


"Cory Bhreckan" <CBhreckan@maelstrom.com> wrote in message
news:4252fb03$1@news101.his.com...

Alan Hardie wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:RxB4e.33853$ij5.2161@tornado.texas.rr.com...


Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...


And what would that be?



Believing Adam Whyte-Settlar.


One of the resident sh*te stirrer for s.c.s


And accomplished at it...

I don't stir it - I just point it out.
A W-S


.

User: "Madra Dubh"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 06:46:00 AM
"Alan Hardie" <axhardie@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1112738148.27711.0@damia.uk.clara.net...


"Cory Bhreckan" <CBhreckan@maelstrom.com> wrote in message
news:4252fb03$1@news101.his.com...

Alan Hardie wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:RxB4e.33853$ij5.2161@tornado.texas.rr.com...


Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...


And what would that be?



Believing Adam Whyte-Settlar.


One of the resident sh*te stirrer for s.c.s


And accomplished at it...

Indeed.
One of the best I've seen (rather, read)
.

User: "Cory Bhreckan"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 05:34:27 PM
Alan Hardie wrote:

"Cory Bhreckan" <CBhreckan@maelstrom.com> wrote in message
news:4252fb03$1@news101.his.com...

Alan Hardie wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:RxB4e.33853$ij5.2161@tornado.texas.rr.com...



Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...


And what would that be?



Believing Adam Whyte-Settlar.


One of the resident sh*te stirrer for s.c.s



And accomplished at it...

I'll drink to that.
.
User: "Michilín"

Title: Re: Creation 07 Apr 2005 01:15:47 PM
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:34:27 -0400, Cory Bhreckan
<CBhreckan@maelstrom.com> wrote:

Alan Hardie wrote:

"Cory Bhreckan" <CBhreckan@maelstrom.com> wrote in message
news:4252fb03$1@news101.his.com...

Alan Hardie wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:RxB4e.33853$ij5.2161@tornado.texas.rr.com...



Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.


Fourth, you guys have fallen for it hook, line, sinker...


And what would that be?



Believing Adam Whyte-Settlar.


One of the resident sh*te stirrer for s.c.s



And accomplished at it...


I'll drink to that.

That's why they call him "The ***** of Darkness"!
Michilín
.







User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 02:07:43 AM
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:2kB4e.33845.


First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky

Pixie,

and Creation is a farce.

Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.

LOL 'Billions of years old' Where's your 'proof' of that. God is testing
your faith.
You're all doomed all you sinners.
A W-S
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 04:13:23 AM
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42538acb$1@clear.net.nz...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:2kB4e.33845.


First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky

Pixie,

and Creation is a farce.

Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.


LOL 'Billions of years old' Where's your 'proof' of that. God is testing
your faith.
You're all doomed all you sinners.

Uh huh, right. What a convincing argument.
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Michilín"

Title: Re: Creation 07 Apr 2005 01:20:48 PM
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 05:13:23 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42538acb$1@clear.net.nz...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:2kB4e.33845.


First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky

Pixie,

and Creation is a farce.

Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.


LOL 'Billions of years old' Where's your 'proof' of that. God is testing
your faith.
You're all doomed all you sinners.


Uh huh, right. What a convincing argument.
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557


Resident Witchypoo? What's you argument? Send in Merlin?
Michilín
.



User: "Michilín"

Title: Re: Creation 07 Apr 2005 01:13:24 PM
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:05:34 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote:


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup -

thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team

in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about

400

light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky Pixie,
and Creation is a farce.

Of course we have proof! Do you think Bishop Ussher just got the job
because no one else could be arsed to do it?


Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.

Ha ha ha! Yeah, sure! I 'd just like to see you prove that!!!

Third, your home-skoolin' religious education is a laughable joke.

Clearly you have never read the Shorter Catechism! Heretic
Rev. Měcheal MacPhŕdruig, DD, MA.
Principal Secretary to The Master,
The Scottish Legal Office for the
Suppression of Heretical and
Episcopalian Deviation.
Mound Place, (off The Royal Mile)
Edinburgh, Scotland EH1 2LX.
Turn in a friend!
0131-650-8933
inquisitor@mound.place.god
.
User: "kathryn"

Title: Re: Creation 26 Apr 2005 05:28:48 AM
"Michilín" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:42557796.12758535@news...

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:05:34 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote:


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup -

thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the
sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team

in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about

400

light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also
have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky
Pixie,
and Creation is a farce.


Of course we have proof! Do you think Bishop Ussher just got the job
because no one else could be arsed to do it?


Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.


Ha ha ha! Yeah, sure! I 'd just like to see you prove that!!!

I'm sorry but what kind of moron are you? You can say the evidence is wrong
but don't pretend it doesn't exist - rocks, fossils, carbon dating, TV
programmes with Alan Titchmarch - do you just stick your fingers in your
ears and go "lalalalalalalalalala"?
.
User: "Madra Dubh"

Title: Re: Creation 26 Apr 2005 07:45:59 AM
"kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote in message
news:d4l550$l4l$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...


"Michilín" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:42557796.12758535@news...

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:05:34 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote:


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of
a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup -

thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the
sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's
team

in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about

400

light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also
have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky
Pixie,
and Creation is a farce.


Of course we have proof! Do you think Bishop Ussher just got the job
because no one else could be arsed to do it?


Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.


Ha ha ha! Yeah, sure! I 'd just like to see you prove that!!!



I'm sorry but what kind of moron are you? You can say the evidence is
wrong but don't pretend it doesn't exist - rocks, fossils, carbon dating,
TV programmes with Alan Titchmarch - do you just stick your fingers in
your ears and go "lalalalalalalalalala"?

No but The Highlander WILL stick his fingers in your ears and say "Gotcha!!"
.

User: "Azrael"

Title: Re: Creation 26 Apr 2005 07:23:46 PM
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:28:48 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com>
wrote:


"Michilín" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:42557796.12758535@news...

On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 19:05:34 GMT, "The other Donald"
<the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote:


"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42522fac@clear.net.nz...


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup -

thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the
sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team

in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about

400

light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also
have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.

That would be very hard to accept/ or for you to prove since today
April 26, 2005ACE is also Nisan 17, 5765 in the Jewish calendar. so
you are claiming that jews started recoring history before the planet
that they live on was even here. Very interesting to know that jews
were here before the planet. I hate that when I'm walking along the
highways and byways of the universe and some thoughtless god puts a
planet in my path, it's just so very rude.

Your statements are mutually exclusive.

First, "faith" is belief without proof. You have no proof of your Sky
Pixie,
and Creation is a farce.


Of course we have proof! Do you think Bishop Ussher just got the job
because no one else could be arsed to do it?


Second, this planet has been proven to be in the billions-of-years old.


Ha ha ha! Yeah, sure! I 'd just like to see you prove that!!!



I'm sorry but what kind of moron are you? You can say the evidence is wrong
but don't pretend it doesn't exist - rocks, fossils, carbon dating, TV
programmes with Alan Titchmarch - do you just stick your fingers in your
ears and go "lalalalalalalalalala"?

.




User: "Sidheseeker"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 10:32:39 AM
Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:


God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S

Yeah.. maybe he's fed up with the way things are
going here.. and getting ready to start over.. :-)
.

User: "Masked Avenger"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 07:43:24 AM
Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:


A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a


planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought


to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists


believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in


the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/


God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S

this is joke .... right ?
if not...... 'proved'(sic) where ? Surely, you're joking .....
--
Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
.
User: "Frank J Warner"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 12:38:50 PM
In article <d2u18d$jj4$1@austar-news.austar.net.au>, Masked Avenger
<cootey59_remove@yahoo.com> wrote:

Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:


A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a


planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought


to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists


believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in


the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/


God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S


this is joke .... right ?

if not...... 'proved'(sic) where ? Surely, you're joking .....

It's no joke. Scientific American has as much as admitted they were
wrong all these years:
Okay, We Give Up
There's no easy way to admit this. For years, helpful letter writers
told us to stick to science. They pointed out that science and politics
don't mix. They said we should be more balanced in our presentation of
such issues as creationism, missile defense and global warming. We
resisted their advice and pretended not to be stung by the accusations
that the magazine should be renamed Unscientific American, or
Scientific Unamerican, or even Unscientific Unamerican. But spring is
in the air, and all of nature is turning over a new leaf, so there's no
better time to say: you were right, and we were wrong.
In retrospect, this magazine's coverage of socalled evolution has been
hideously one-sided. For decades, we published articles in every issue
that endorsed the ideas of Charles Darwin and his cronies. True, the
theory of common descent through natural selection has been called the
unifying concept for all of biology and one of the greatest scientific
ideas of all time, but that was no excuse to be fanatics about it.
Where were the answering articles presenting the powerful case for
scientific creationism? Why were we so unwilling to suggest that
dinosaurs lived 6,000 years ago or that a cataclysmic flood carved the
Grand Canyon? Blame the scientists. They dazzled us with their fancy
fossils, their radiocarbon dating and their tens of thousands of
peer-reviewed journal articles. As editors, we had no business being
persuaded by mountains of evidence.
Moreover, we shamefully mistreated the Intelligent Design (ID)
theorists by lumping them in with creationists. Creationists believe
that God designed all life, and that's a somewhat religious idea. But
ID theorists think that at unspecified times some unnamed superpowerful
entity designed life, or maybe just some species, or maybe just some of
the stuff in cells. That's what makes ID a superior scientific theory:
it doesn't get bogged down in details.
Good journalism values balance above all else. We owe it to our readers
to present everybody's ideas equally and not to ignore or discredit
theories simply because they lack scientifically credible arguments or
facts. Nor should we succumb to the easy mistake of thinking that
scientists understand their fields better than, say, U.S. senators or
best-selling novelists do. Indeed, if politicians or special-interest
groups say things that seem untrue or misleading, our duty as
journalists is to quote them without comment or contradiction. To do
otherwise would be elitist and therefore wrong. In that spirit, we will
end the practice of expressing our own views in this space: an
editorial page is no place for opinions.
Get ready for a new Scientific American. No more discussions of how
science should inform policy. If the government commits blindly to
building an anti-ICBM defense system that can't work as promised, that
will waste tens of billions of taxpayers' dollars and imperil national
security, you won't hear about it from us. If studies suggest that the
administration's antipollution measures would actually increase the
dangerous particulates that people breathe during the next two decades,
that's not our concern. No more discussions of how policies affect
science either⤲so what if the budget for the National Science
Foundation is slashed? This magazine will be dedicated purely to
science, fair and balanced science, and not just the science that
scientists say is science. And it will start on April Fools' Day.
Okay, We Give Up
MATT COLLINS
THE EDITORS

COPYRIGHT 2005 SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN, INC.
-Frank
--
fwarner1-at-franksknives-dot-com
Here's some of my work:
http://www.franksknives.com/
.


User: "William McHale"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 09:22:13 AM
In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic Adam Whyte-Settlar <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:

"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S

That is quite young even by YEC standards. Since its been 2000 years since
Christ lived, that means one only has 2600 years to account for everything
before then. IF we take the Bible literally we have to allow almost
that much time to account for the great span of ages for the pre-flood figures
That doesn't leave much time for the Patriarchs, Exodus, Judges, prophets, etc.
--
Bill
.
User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 01:51:21 AM
"William McHale" <mchale@beast.toad.net> wrote in message
news:pax4e.10$2J5.335@news.abs.net...


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S


That is quite young even by YEC standards. Since its been 2000 years

since

Christ lived, that means one only has 2600 years to account for everything
before then. IF we take the Bible literally we have to allow almost
that much time to account for the great span of ages for the pre-flood

figures

That doesn't leave much time for the Patriarchs, Exodus, Judges, prophets,

etc.
Yes - It's a miracle isn't it.
A W-S
PS - Who's YEC?


--
Bill

.
User: "The Real Fifeshire Bimbo"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 06:15:02 AM
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote

"William McHale" <mchale@beast.toad.net> wrote

In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists
also have discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of
a T-rex:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


That is quite young even by YEC standards. Since its been
since Christ lived, that means one only has 2600 years to
account for everything before then. IF we take the Bible
literally we have to allow almost that much time to account
for the great span of ages for the pre-flood figures
That doesn't leave much time for the Patriarchs, Exodus,
Judges, prophets, etc.


Yes - It's a miracle isn't it.
PS - Who's YEC?

http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/YEC ?
--
Cheers, Helen
hramsay at cogeco dot ca
.
User: "Cory Bhreckan"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 11:52:23 AM
The Real Fifeshire Bimbo wrote:

"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote

"William McHale" <mchale@beast.toad.net> wrote


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists
also have discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of
a T-rex:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/


God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.


That is quite young even by YEC standards. Since its been
since Christ lived, that means one only has 2600 years to
account for everything before then. IF we take the Bible
literally we have to allow almost that much time to account
for the great span of ages for the pre-flood figures
That doesn't leave much time for the Patriarchs, Exodus,
Judges, prophets, etc.


Yes - It's a miracle isn't it.



PS - Who's YEC?


http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/YEC ?

Yec yec yec.
.


User: "Michilín"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 09:58:16 PM
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:51:21 +1200, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:


"William McHale" <mchale@beast.toad.net> wrote in message
news:pax4e.10$2J5.335@news.abs.net...


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S


That is quite young even by YEC standards. Since its been 2000 years

since

Christ lived, that means one only has 2600 years to account for everything
before then. IF we take the Bible literally we have to allow almost
that much time to account for the great span of ages for the pre-flood

figures

That doesn't leave much time for the Patriarchs, Exodus, Judges, prophets,

etc.

Yes - It's a miracle isn't it.

A W-S
PS - Who's YEC?

People who believe in fairies.
Michilín
.



User: "MacRobert"

Title: Re: Creation 05 Apr 2005 10:13:41 AM
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:24:53 +1200, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:


"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yeeehaw9.com> wrote in message
news:qSn4e.33773$1H3.26642@tornado.texas.rr.com...


"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
news:Pcn4e.16008$1S4.1639315@news.xtra.co.nz...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4408187.stm

A European team claims to have obtained the first direct image of a

planet

beyond our own Solar System.
The "extrasolar planet" is said to orbit a star called GQ Lup - thought

to

be like a young version of our Sun.

Similar claims have been made in the past, but sceptical scientists

believe

the pictures merely show objects that share the same view in the sky.

The GQ Lup object is far more certain claims Ralph Neuhaeuser's team in

the

journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.

GQ Lup and its companion are located in a star-forming region about 400
light-years away.



Dr Tam


In a different, but equally noteworthy, discovery, scientists also have
discovered intact, soft tissue from the femur of a T-rex:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683/

God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S

Are you sure? I thought it was at least 5,000. Anyhow, where did the
Almighty state that you were to use the Bible as an astronomy
textbook?
Stephen
.
User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 01:53:11 AM
"MacRobert" <Cannaebe@rsed2look.itup> wrote in message .


God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S


Are you sure?

No - since you ask I think it might be 6,400. I remember it was created on a
Tuesday and not a Monday as most text books state.
A W-S
.
User: "MacRobert"

Title: Re: Creation 06 Apr 2005 11:14:13 AM
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:53:11 +1200, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> paused to reflect but wrote anyway:


"MacRobert" <Cannaebe@rsed2look.itup> wrote in message .


God put it there to test our faith in Creation.
It has been proved that the planet is only 4,600 years old.
A W-S


Are you sure?


No - since you ask I think it might be 6,400. I remember it was created on a
Tuesday and not a Monday as most text books state.

A W-S

And there we see how sloppy writing can destroy your argument. Don't
try to claim dislexia either, or doG will nail your withered, smoking
hide to h*ll's threshold for sure.
MacRobert
.






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