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Topic: Religions > Bible
User: "Jesse"
Date: 09 Sep 2005 03:59:42 PM
Object: Creation or Evolution...
Pro 22:2
(Bishops) The riche and poore meete together: the Lorde is the maker of
them all.
(Geneva) The rich and poore meete together: the Lord is the maker of
them all.
(KJV) The rich and poor meet together: the LORD is the maker of them all.
(MKJV) The rich and poor meet together; Jehovah is the maker of them all.
Pro 22:2 -
1. Among the children of men divine Providence has so ordered it that
some are rich and others poor, and these are intermixed in societies:
The Lord is the Maker of both, both the author of their being and the
disposer of their lot. The greatest man in the world must acknowledge
God to be his Maker, and is under the same obligations to be subject to
him that the meanest is; and the poorest has the honour to be the work
of God's hands as much as the greatest. Have they not all one Father?
Mal_2:10; Job_31:15. God makes some rich, that they may be charitable to
the poor, and others poor, that they may be serviceable to the rich; and
they have need of one another, 1Co_12:21. He make some poor, to exercise
their patience, and contentment, and dependence upon God, and others
rich, to exercise their thankfulness and beneficence. Even the poor we
have always with us; they shall never cease out of the land, nor the
rich neither.
2. Notwithstanding the distance that is in many respects between rich
and poor, yet in most things they meet together, especially before the
Lord, who is the Maker of them all, and regards not the rich more than
the poor, Job_34:19. Rich and poor meet together at the bar of God's
justice, all guilty before God, concluded under sin, and shapen in
iniquity, the rich as much as the poor; and they meet at the throne of
God's grace; the poor are as welcome there as the rich. There is the
same Christ, the same scripture, the same Spirit, the same covenant of
promises, for them both. There is the same heaven for poor saints that
there is for rich: Lazarus is in the bosom of Abraham. And there is the
same hell for rich sinners that there is for poor. All stand upon the
same level before God, as they do also in the grave. The small and great
are there.
Matthew Henry Commentary
God made everyone. No one was made that was not made by God. He knew us
before we were born and sanctified each one of us for a purpose. No one
has a purpose more or less important than ANYONE else.
Minister Jesse
.

User: "Steven J."

Title: Re: Creation or Evolution... 10 Sep 2005 07:53:26 PM
Jesse wrote:

Pro 22:2

(Bishops) The riche and poore meete together: the Lorde is the maker of
them all.

(Geneva) The rich and poore meete together: the Lord is the maker of
them all.

(KJV) The rich and poor meet together: the LORD is the maker of them all.

(MKJV) The rich and poor meet together; Jehovah is the maker of them all.

-- [snip]


God made everyone. No one was made that was not made by God. He knew us
before we were born and sanctified each one of us for a purpose. No one
has a purpose more or less important than ANYONE else.

Since you titled this post, "Creation or Evolution," I thought that
perhaps it would be appropriate to point out that you seem, here, to be
arguing for evolution. You state that "no one was made that was not
made by God." But, of course, this "making" did not take the form of
miraculous creation without biological predecessors. Each of us, rich
or poor, was not made fresh from the soil, but conceived by
naturalistic mechanisms and born in the same fashion as other mammals.
Indeed, some creationists such as those at AiG argue that we ought not
say univocally that modern humans and Adam and Eve were "created by
God," since we were not created in the same sense. Darwin, for his own
part, saw things the other way around: if origin by natural processes
was consistent with the idea that individuals were created by God, then
the origin of the human species (or the hominid family, or the primate
order, or the mammalian class, or the animal kingdom) by natural
processes was equally consistent with the idea that "kinds" were
created by God.


Minister Jesse

-- Steven J.
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