Religions > Bible > Creationists Get an Education at an ID "Conference"
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"Budikka666" |
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30 Mar 2007 09:27:14 PM |
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Creationists Get an Education at an ID "Conference" |
At http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/ Jason Rosenhouse relates the
story of his visit to an so-called intelligent so-called design
conference in Knoxville.
Part 1 starts here:
http://tinyurl.com/yurb4r
Budikka
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Creationists Get an Education at an ID "Conference" |
31 Mar 2007 01:47:50 AM |
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In article <1175308034.354234.120850@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
At http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/ Jason Rosenhouse relates the
story of his visit to an so-called intelligent so-called design
conference in Knoxville.
Part 1 starts here:
http://tinyurl.com/yurb4r
So I see the ID Traveling Circus is in Knoxville. If I ever need a good
laugh, I just might go to one of those things. I wonder if they'll have
one in So. California in the near future? I didn't see anything at their
site.
Budikka
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John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Luminoso" |
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| Title: Re: Creationists Get an Education at an ID "Conference" |
02 Apr 2007 04:19:03 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:47:50 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1175308034.354234.120850@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
At http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/ Jason Rosenhouse relates the
story of his visit to an so-called intelligent so-called design
conference in Knoxville.
Part 1 starts here:
http://tinyurl.com/yurb4r
So I see the ID Traveling Circus is in Knoxville. If I ever need a good
laugh, I just might go to one of those things. I wonder if they'll have
one in So. California in the near future? I didn't see anything at their
site.
Fortunately, the "proofs" of ID and the creationist perspective
offered surely went in one ear and out the other of most attendees
just as any information they received in their high-school science
classes.
If anything, it's cheering to note that the speakers feel they
HAVE to make it all sound "scientific". This means that the
"authority" of science and scientists has not yet disappeared
entirely.
What would have worried me more than the pro-ID rants themselves
would have been if they'd spent a lot more time coaching the
faithful on how to best infiltrate and/or disrupt school boards,
school staff plus local state and federal educational policy-
making entities. It is possible to "win" this kind of battle
without being correct, popular or even logical - simply by
manipulating the system. All that's required is persistence.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Creationists Get an Education at an ID "Conference" |
04 Apr 2007 11:53:34 AM |
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Luminoso wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:47:50 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1175308034.354234.120850@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
At http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/ Jason Rosenhouse relates the
story of his visit to an so-called intelligent so-called design
conference in Knoxville.
Part 1 starts here:
http://tinyurl.com/yurb4r
So I see the ID Traveling Circus is in Knoxville. If I ever need a good
laugh, I just might go to one of those things. I wonder if they'll have
one in So. California in the near future? I didn't see anything at their
site.
Fortunately, the "proofs" of ID and the creationist perspective
offered surely went in one ear and out the other of most attendees
just as any information they received in their high-school science
classes.
If anything, it's cheering to note that the speakers feel they
HAVE to make it all sound "scientific". This means that the
"authority" of science and scientists has not yet disappeared
entirely.
What would have worried me more than the pro-ID rants themselves
would have been if they'd spent a lot more time coaching the
faithful on how to best infiltrate and/or disrupt school boards,
school staff plus local state and federal educational policy-
making entities. It is possible to "win" this kind of battle
without being correct, popular or even logical - simply by
manipulating the system. All that's required is persistence.
===>Looks like the old "primordeal soup" may be the way for organic
material to evolve!
"A Frankensteinesque contraption of glass bulbs and crackling electrodes
has produced yet another revelation about the origin of life.
The results suggest that Earth's early atmosphere could have produced
chemicals necessary for life—contradicting the view that life's building
blocks had to come from comets and meteors. "Maybe we're
over-optimistic, but I think this is a paradigm shift," says chemist
Jeffrey Bada, whose team performed the experiment at the Scripps
Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif." -- L.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleid=9952573C-E7F2-99DF-32F2928046329479&chanId=sa027
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Luminoso" |
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| Title: Re: Creationists Get an Education at an ID "Conference" |
04 Apr 2007 05:02:08 PM |
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:53:34 -0700, Libertarius
<Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Luminoso wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:47:50 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1175308034.354234.120850@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
At http://scienceblogs.com/evolutionblog/ Jason Rosenhouse relates the
story of his visit to an so-called intelligent so-called design
conference in Knoxville.
Part 1 starts here:
http://tinyurl.com/yurb4r
So I see the ID Traveling Circus is in Knoxville. If I ever need a good
laugh, I just might go to one of those things. I wonder if they'll have
one in So. California in the near future? I didn't see anything at their
site.
Fortunately, the "proofs" of ID and the creationist perspective
offered surely went in one ear and out the other of most attendees
just as any information they received in their high-school science
classes.
If anything, it's cheering to note that the speakers feel they
HAVE to make it all sound "scientific". This means that the
"authority" of science and scientists has not yet disappeared
entirely.
What would have worried me more than the pro-ID rants themselves
would have been if they'd spent a lot more time coaching the
faithful on how to best infiltrate and/or disrupt school boards,
school staff plus local state and federal educational policy-
making entities. It is possible to "win" this kind of battle
without being correct, popular or even logical - simply by
manipulating the system. All that's required is persistence.
===>Looks like the old "primordeal soup" may be the way for organic
material to evolve!
"A Frankensteinesque contraption of glass bulbs and crackling electrodes
has produced yet another revelation about the origin of life.
The results suggest that Earth's early atmosphere could have produced
chemicals necessary for life—contradicting the view that life's building
blocks had to come from comets and meteors. "Maybe we're
over-optimistic, but I think this is a paradigm shift," says chemist
Jeffrey Bada, whose team performed the experiment at the Scripps
Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, Calif." -- L.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleid=9952573C-E7F2-99DF-32F2928046329479&chanId=sa027
A tad premature to declare the investigations over.
I'm sure the gadget produced SOME - of the thousands - of chemicals
used by life. But a few ain't enough and then they've got to get
together "just right".
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