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"Bible John" |
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13 Apr 2006 02:35:35 PM |
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Cub Brave are you slandering Winter? |
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hank Hanegraaf made it very clear to me, and others listening to the BAM,
that we must treat Winter with gentleness and with respect.
http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/winter/Hank.wav
Cub;
Winter is clearly teaching another gospel (Gal 1:8-9, 2 Pet 2, Jude), and
has his condemnation in the Lake of Fire (unless he gets saved before then).
But posting a claim that Winter is downloading child porn (which you've done
several times) is not a Christ like way to treat this man.
John
2 Peter 2 (New International Version)
False Teachers and Their Destruction
1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be
false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies,
even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction
on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way
of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you
with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging
over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to
hell,[a] putting them into gloomy dungeons[b] to be held for judgment; 5if
he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly
people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes,
and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if
he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of
lawless men 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was
tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)- 9if
this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to
hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their
punishment.[c] 10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt
desire of the sinful nature[d] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not
bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the
Lord. 12But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are
like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and
destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea
of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes,
reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14With eyes full
of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are
experts in greed-an accursed brood! 15They have left the straight way and
wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of
wickedness. 16But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey-a beast
without speech-who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's
madness.
17These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest
darkness is reserved for them. 18For they mouth empty, boastful words and,
by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice
people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19They promise
them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity-for a man is a
slave to whatever has mastered him. 20If they have escaped the corruption of
the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again
entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were
at the beginning. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the
way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on
the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are
true: "A dog returns to its vomit,"[f]and, "A sow that is washed goes back
to her wallowing in the mud."
--
1 Pet 3:15-But sanctify the Lord God[a] in your hearts, and always be ready
to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in
you, with meekness and fear
CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries
Founder and director
http://johnw.freeshell.org/bible
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| User: "Rod" |
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| Title: Re: Cub Brave are you slandering Winter? |
13 Apr 2006 03:11:56 PM |
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Bible John wrote:
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
This was a very long time ago during a court proceeding that this
happened. It was evidence that Steve was trying to introduce to the
court collected from servers.
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
Steve is NOT doing this, and he isn't guilty of it. Unless you know
completely what is going on, it would be a good idea for you to
grind your axe somewhere else, unless you would like your head
handed to you by one of them. This is between Cub and Steve and
those having a part in it as I did.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hank Hanegraaf made it very clear to me, and others listening to the BAM,
that we must treat Winter with gentleness and with respect.
http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/winter/Hank.wav
So, please take your self, your diaper fetish, and get
some help.
Cub;
Winter is clearly teaching another gospel (Gal 1:8-9, 2 Pet 2, Jude), and
has his condemnation in the Lake of Fire (unless he gets saved before then).
You are the one preaching a gospel that you barely understand.
But posting a claim that Winter is downloading child porn (which you've done
several times) is not a Christ like way to treat this man.
As I said, this is old news, and I explained it above. It's time to
put this old horse down. Steve knows what Cub is reffering to, and Cub
knows why he is bringing it up. It's between them, leave it alone.
John
Rod
--
http://24.116.1.130/kc0oeb/
Mirror @ http://72.24.149.98
Matthew 5:43-45a
"Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate
thine enemy."
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them
that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and
pray for them which despitefully use you, and
persecute you; That ye may be the children of your
Father which is in heaven"
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: Cub Brave are you slandering Winter? |
13 Apr 2006 03:40:12 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:11:56 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@yahoo.com>
wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
Bible John wrote:
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
This was a very long time ago during a court proceeding that this
happened. It was evidence that Steve was trying to introduce to the
court collected from servers.
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
Steve is NOT doing this, and he isn't guilty of it. Unless you know
completely what is going on, it would be a good idea for you to
grind your axe somewhere else, unless you would like your head
handed to you by one of them. This is between Cub and Steve and
those having a part in it as I did.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hank Hanegraaf made it very clear to me, and others listening to the BAM,
that we must treat Winter with gentleness and with respect.
http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/winter/Hank.wav
So, please take your self, your diaper fetish, and get
some help.
Now, see, Rod?
You were doing so well, and then you had to go and slander BJ!
Childish!
Making yourself no better than you accuse BJ of being!
Just because you and he disagree over scriptural interpretation is NOT
valid reason for cheap shots.
john w
Cub;
Winter is clearly teaching another gospel (Gal 1:8-9, 2 Pet 2, Jude), and
has his condemnation in the Lake of Fire (unless he gets saved before then).
You are the one preaching a gospel that you barely understand.
But posting a claim that Winter is downloading child porn (which you've done
several times) is not a Christ like way to treat this man.
As I said, this is old news, and I explained it above. It's time to
put this old horse down. Steve knows what Cub is reffering to, and Cub
knows why he is bringing it up. It's between them, leave it alone.
John
Rod
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| User: "Rod" |
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13 Apr 2006 05:31:21 PM |
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john w <johnw wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:11:56 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@yahoo.com>
wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
Bible John wrote:
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
This was a very long time ago during a court proceeding that this
happened. It was evidence that Steve was trying to introduce to the
court collected from servers.
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
Steve is NOT doing this, and he isn't guilty of it. Unless you know
completely what is going on, it would be a good idea for you to
grind your axe somewhere else, unless you would like your head
handed to you by one of them. This is between Cub and Steve and
those having a part in it as I did.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hank Hanegraaf made it very clear to me, and others listening to the BAM,
that we must treat Winter with gentleness and with respect.
http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/winter/Hank.wav
So, please take your self, your diaper fetish, and get
some help.
Now, see, Rod?
You were doing so well, and then you had to go and slander BJ!
Childish!
I don't recall vying for your approval, or "wanting" it....
Making yourself no better than you accuse BJ of being!
Just because you and he disagree over scriptural interpretation is NOT
valid reason for cheap shots.
john w
--
http://24.116.1.130/kc0oeb/
Mirror @ http://72.24.149.98
Matthew 5:43-45a
"Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate
thine enemy."
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them
that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and
pray for them which despitefully use you, and
persecute you; That ye may be the children of your
Father which is in heaven"
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: Cub Brave are you slandering Winter? |
14 Apr 2006 09:58:55 AM |
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:31:21 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@yahoo.com>
wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
john w <johnw wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:11:56 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@yahoo.com>
wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
Bible John wrote:
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
This was a very long time ago during a court proceeding that this
happened. It was evidence that Steve was trying to introduce to the
court collected from servers.
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
Steve is NOT doing this, and he isn't guilty of it. Unless you know
completely what is going on, it would be a good idea for you to
grind your axe somewhere else, unless you would like your head
handed to you by one of them. This is between Cub and Steve and
those having a part in it as I did.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hank Hanegraaf made it very clear to me, and others listening to the BAM,
that we must treat Winter with gentleness and with respect.
http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/winter/Hank.wav
So, please take your self, your diaper fetish, and get
some help.
Now, see, Rod?
You were doing so well, and then you had to go and slander BJ!
Childish!
I don't recall vying for your approval, or "wanting" it....
If you're going to feel free to post your POV on the group, and take
cheap shots, I'm going to feel free to post MY POV on the group, and
take you to task.
If you want to be considered a Christian, act like one.
And your ugly comment was not "what Jesus would do."
You can disagree with someone without smacking them upside the head
with a brick.
Something Jesus said about "Do unto others as you would ..."
john w
Making yourself no better than you accuse BJ of being!
Just because you and he disagree over scriptural interpretation is NOT
valid reason for cheap shots.
john w
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14 Apr 2006 10:48:50 AM |
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 07:58:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
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If you want to be considered a Christian, act like one.
Take your own advice, please.
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| User: "john w" |
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14 Apr 2006 01:41:53 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 11:48:50 -0400, wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 07:58:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no_spam>@yoo.hoo>
wrote:
If you want to be considered a Christian, act like one.
Take your own advice, please.
I'm trying to follow your glowing example, Elaine.
Give me a glowing example to follow.
So far, I've just seen your beast.
john w
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| User: "Grinder" |
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| Title: Re: Cub Brave are you slandering Winter? |
13 Apr 2006 04:02:32 PM |
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Bible John wrote:
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
This can probably lead you to the case mentioned above:
http://users.rcn.com/sadams.enteract/winfaq.html
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
[snip]
And I'm sure they'll be as interested in that as the local police is in
Mr. Winter's complaints about you.
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| User: "john w" |
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13 Apr 2006 03:40:11 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:35:35 -0700, "Bible John"
<johnw_94020@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
Having been on the receiving end of similar ugly, unfounded remarks, I
couldn't agree more.
And at any rate, this is not the place for such information. If
you/ANYONE has hard evidence of such activity, then the FBI should /
MUST be notified IMMEDIATELY. Not only is such behavior SICK, it is
destructive. Having been on the receiving end (as many of you know) of
numerous molestations, I have absolutely ZERO tolerance of such
behavior.
Worse-- which many people who falsely accuse don't even think about--
there are PLENTY of redneck jerks out there CRUISING for people to
bash, whether they're guilty or not.
I had some psycho accuse me awhile back, just for fun-- thinking it
would be cute-- and some redneck jerk in backwater Texas threatened to
track me down and dispose of me.
A check of the Washington state registry would tell anyone with a
brain that I am not an offender, but that doesn't seem to stop some
rednecks with a 6 foot shotgun and a pea-sized brain.
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
And a note this time, on BJ's behalf. If anyone is even AWARE that
someone they know or know OF has such garbage on their computer, or is
producing it, and you DON'T notify the appropriate authorities, you
become COMPLICIT in the crime!
There's a little saying going around these days. I saw it on the web
and posted a copy on my building's bulletin board. The building
management noticed it and thanked me. It's very appropriate to this
situation.
"If you KNOW something, SAY SOMETHING!"
I've probably called the police and / or the FBI 10 times in the past
10 years. I don't know where those phone calls ended up...
however, a buddy of mine in my building witnessed an altercation in
the hallway outside his unit a year or so ago. It got violent, so he
grabbed his cell phone and dialed 9-1-1. The fists were still flying
apparently when the police got there about 5 minutes later. They
separated the two guys, interviewed them separately, and-- as a matter
of course-- entered the units of the two men involved.
One HAPPENED to be an Al Quaida agent, and his apartment was full of
posters, a map, hate literature, several bombs, and bomb-making
material.
"You never know."
"If you know something, say something."
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hank Hanegraaf made it very clear to me, and others listening to the BAM,
that we must treat Winter with gentleness and with respect.
I disagree with Hank TOTALLY.
Jesus was NOT gentle or respectful to the Pharisees. They would
verbally harass Him, and He would say things that would embarrass them
and shut them up.
And as far as I am concerned, having visited Hank's website, he is on
the very edge of teaching another gospel.
He says that Jesus was absolutely NOT "the Father in flesh." Jesus
absolutely WAS "The Father in flesh."
Hank's teaching borders on OneNess.
John 1 says Jesus Christ was God become flesh. Col 2 says He was God
the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit become flesh. Rev 1
and Rev 22 say Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, a title reserved
for God the Father.
And, BJ, if you swallow Hank's teaching without some discernment
merely because you think he "knows all", then you are guilty of
disobeying Galatians 1.
john w
There are joys which long to be ours.
God sends ten thousands truths, which come
about us like birds seeking inlet;
but we are shut up to them, and so
they bring us nothing, but sit and sing
awhile upon the roof, and then fly away.
-- Henry Ward Beecher
http://www.southcoast.net/johnw/winter/Hank.wav
Cub;
Winter is clearly teaching another gospel (Gal 1:8-9, 2 Pet 2, Jude), and
has his condemnation in the Lake of Fire (unless he gets saved before then).
But posting a claim that Winter is downloading child porn (which you've done
several times) is not a Christ like way to treat this man.
John
2 Peter 2 (New International Version)
False Teachers and Their Destruction
1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be
false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies,
even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction
on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way
of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you
with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging
over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to
hell,[a] putting them into gloomy dungeons[b] to be held for judgment; 5if
he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly
people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes,
and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if
he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of
lawless men 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was
tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)- 9if
this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to
hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their
punishment.[c] 10This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt
desire of the sinful nature[d] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not
bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the
Lord. 12But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are
like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and
destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea
of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes,
reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14With eyes full
of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are
experts in greed-an accursed brood! 15They have left the straight way and
wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Beor, who loved the wages of
wickedness. 16But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey-a beast
without speech-who spoke with a man's voice and restrained the prophet's
madness.
17These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest
darkness is reserved for them. 18For they mouth empty, boastful words and,
by appealing to the lustful desires of sinful human nature, they entice
people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19They promise
them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity-for a man is a
slave to whatever has mastered him. 20If they have escaped the corruption of
the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again
entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were
at the beginning. 21It would have been better for them not to have known the
way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on
the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22Of them the proverbs are
true: "A dog returns to its vomit,"[f]and, "A sow that is washed goes back
to her wallowing in the mud."
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| User: "Rod" |
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| Title: Re: Cub Brave are you slandering Winter? |
14 Apr 2006 04:52:09 PM |
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john w <johnw wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:35:35 -0700, "Bible John"
<johnw_94020@yahoo.com> wrote:
copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no portion of
this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the author
You write
"Before that you were scolded by Judge Tilley for illegally downloading
kiddie porn and TRYING to introduce it as evidence.(what a stupid
blunder on your part)"
Please if you are going to post something like this, cite your sources. Do
you have any hard evidence that Winter is doing this? I by no means speak
in the defense of Winter, but honestly posting something like this, without
hard evidence is slander.
Having been on the receiving end of similar ugly, unfounded remarks, I
couldn't agree more.
And at any rate, this is not the place for such information. If
you/ANYONE has hard evidence of such activity, then the FBI should /
MUST be notified IMMEDIATELY. Not only is such behavior SICK, it is
destructive. Having been on the receiving end (as many of you know) of
numerous molestations, I have absolutely ZERO tolerance of such
behavior.
Worse-- which many people who falsely accuse don't even think about--
there are PLENTY of redneck jerks out there CRUISING for people to
bash, whether they're guilty or not.
I had some psycho accuse me awhile back, just for fun-- thinking it
would be cute-- and some redneck jerk in backwater Texas threatened to
track me down and dispose of me.
And thats a bad thing ?? Oh...sorry...........
A check of the Washington state registry would tell anyone with a
brain that I am not an offender, but that doesn't seem to stop some
rednecks with a 6 foot shotgun and a pea-sized brain.
If Winter is indeed accessing child porn, and has such images and videos on
his computer, than I will be among the first to file a complaint with the
FBI.
And a note this time, on BJ's behalf. If anyone is even AWARE that
someone they know or know OF has such garbage on their computer, or is
producing it, and you DON'T notify the appropriate authorities, you
become COMPLICIT in the crime!
There's a little saying going around these days. I saw it on the web
and posted a copy on my building's bulletin board. The building
management noticed it and thanked me. It's very appropriate to this
situation.
"If you KNOW something, SAY SOMETHING!"
I've probably called the police and / or the FBI 10 times in the past
10 years. I don't know where those phone calls ended up...
however, a buddy of mine in my building witnessed an altercation in
the hallway outside his unit a year or so ago. It got violent, so he
grabbed his cell phone and dialed 9-1-1. The fists were still flying
apparently when the police got there about 5 minutes later. They
separated the two guys, interviewed them separately, and-- as a matter
of course-- entered the units of the two men involved.
One HAPPENED to be an Al Quaida agent, and his apartment was full of
posters, a map, hate literature, several bombs, and bomb-making
material.
"You never know."
"If you know something, say something."
https://tips.fbi.gov/
Hank Hanegraaf made it very clear to me, and others listening to the BAM,
that we must treat Winter with gentleness and with respect.
I disagree with Hank TOTALLY.
Jesus was NOT gentle or respectful to the Pharisees. They would
verbally harass Him, and He would say things that would embarrass them
and shut them up.
And as far as I am concerned, having visited Hank's website, he is on
the very edge of teaching another gospel.
He says that Jesus was absolutely NOT "the Father in flesh." Jesus
absolutely WAS "The Father in flesh."
Hank's teaching borders on OneNess.
John 1 says Jesus Christ was God become flesh. Col 2 says He was God
the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit become flesh. Rev 1
and Rev 22 say Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, a title reserved
for God the Father.
And, BJ, if you swallow Hank's teaching without some discernment
merely because you think he "knows all", then you are guilty of
disobeying Galatians 1.
john w
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Matthew 5:43-45a
"Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate
thine enemy."
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them
that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and
pray for them which despitefully use you, and
persecute you; That ye may be the children of your
Father which is in heaven"
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