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"Ted J L" |
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30 Dec 2007 03:40:37 PM |
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"Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
DANCING
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dancing.html
August 12, 2000 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061,
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)
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*Scripture references are quoted from The holy Bible, King James version
Prepared for the University of Virginia Library Electronic Text Center
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/relig.browse.html
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| User: "vernono vernono@hereandthere" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
30 Dec 2007 04:22:46 PM |
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"Ted J L" <publicmien@yahoo.com.INV> wrote in message
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QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
Klutzes (idiots) are against dancing and against moderate drinking.
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| User: "Carl" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
31 Dec 2007 11:25:17 PM |
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"Ted J L" <publicmien@yahoo.com.INV> wrote in message
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QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
DANCING
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dancing.html
August 12, 2000 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061,
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)
Ted, David Cloud is still a lousy source. He is still off base scripturally,
intellectually and logically making him a poor so-called expert to place a
lot of weight on.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
30 Dec 2007 04:31:31 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:40:37 GMT, (Ted J L)
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
DANCING
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dancing.html
August 12, 2000 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061,
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)
I read a few paragraphs of this with some amusement.
I guess the authors of your silly web page never attended a Jewish
wedding or a Jewish barmitzpha.
Our Lord Jesus attended BOTH, and I PROMISE you, He danced at both!
(it WAS the custom), and He danced with FEMALES (at LEAST with His
mother and His sisters! He likely danced with His cousins, and
family/school FRIENDS.
Your web page shows NO scholarship whatever!
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| User: "Diana" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
30 Dec 2007 06:11:36 PM |
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:40:37 GMT, (Ted J L)
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
DANCING
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dancing.html
August 12, 2000 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061,
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)
I read a few paragraphs of this with some amusement.
I guess the authors of your silly web page never attended a Jewish
wedding or a Jewish barmitzpha.
Our Lord Jesus attended BOTH, and I PROMISE you, He danced at both!
(grin) you have decided that Jesus danced because it was the custom of the
day for jews to dance? ;-)
Not that I disagree with you, but I believe that I will remember that
argument for future reference for other things.
(it WAS the custom), and He danced with FEMALES (at LEAST with His
mother and His sisters!
Er....I don't know if it was the custom to dance with members of the
opposite sex, sir. Certainly Orthodox Jews don't mix sexes in the dance NOW.
I'll have to do some further research, but I believe that dancing was pretty
segregated; men with men, women with women. It was an expression of joy and
worship, not a courtship ritual.
.....at least, not when it was done publically or in ceremonies like
weddings.
He likely danced with His cousins, and
family/school FRIENDS.
Your web page shows NO scholarship whatever!
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| User: "vernono vernono@hereandthere" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
30 Dec 2007 07:16:34 PM |
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"Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com> wrote in message
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:40:37 GMT, (Ted J L)
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
DANCING
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dancing.html
August 12, 2000 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061,
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)
I read a few paragraphs of this with some amusement.
I guess the authors of your silly web page never attended a Jewish
wedding or a Jewish barmitzpha.
Our Lord Jesus attended BOTH, and I PROMISE you, He danced at both!
(grin) you have decided that Jesus danced because it was the custom of the
day for jews to dance? ;-)
Not that I disagree with you, but I believe that I will remember that
argument for future reference for other things.
(it WAS the custom), and He danced with FEMALES (at LEAST with His
mother and His sisters!
Er....I don't know if it was the custom to dance with members of the
opposite sex, sir. Certainly Orthodox Jews don't mix sexes in the dance
NOW. I'll have to do some further research, but I believe that dancing was
pretty
Who told you that.
Most can't, but those who can, do.
segregated; men with men, women with women. It was an expression of joy
and worship, not a courtship ritual.
....at least, not when it was done publically or in ceremonies like
weddings.
He likely danced with His cousins, and
family/school FRIENDS.
Your web page shows NO scholarship whatever!
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| User: "Diana" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
31 Dec 2007 09:22:08 AM |
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"vernono" <vernono@hereandthere> wrote in message
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"Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com> wrote in message
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:40:37 GMT, (Ted J L)
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
DANCING
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dancing.html
August 12, 2000 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061,
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)
I read a few paragraphs of this with some amusement.
I guess the authors of your silly web page never attended a Jewish
wedding or a Jewish barmitzpha.
Our Lord Jesus attended BOTH, and I PROMISE you, He danced at both!
(grin) you have decided that Jesus danced because it was the custom of
the day for jews to dance? ;-)
Not that I disagree with you, but I believe that I will remember that
argument for future reference for other things.
(it WAS the custom), and He danced with FEMALES (at LEAST with His
mother and His sisters!
Er....I don't know if it was the custom to dance with members of the
opposite sex, sir. Certainly Orthodox Jews don't mix sexes in the dance
NOW. I'll have to do some further research, but I believe that dancing
was pretty
Who told you that.
What, that dancing was pretty? I think dancing is pretty...most of the
time. I love 'Dancing with the Stars," don't you? Mind you, I think that
this coital reinactment that sometimes happens on the dance floor among
teens is going a bit far, but then I'm a little old fashioned. In "my day" a
dance called the 'jerk' was banned...and I honestly don't see the grace in
hip hop. The athleticism, yes--the grace? not so much.
Oh, yeah...dancing in the mid-east then...and now...was segragated; men with
men, women with women.
As to who told me?
Research, man, research. Does wonders for one's credibility. Going to
dances. Dancing. You know, research. ;-)
Most can't, but those who can, do.
segregated; men with men, women with women. It was an expression of joy
and worship, not a courtship ritual.
Oh, sorry....there is the qoute.
....at least, not when it was done publically or in ceremonies like
weddings.
He likely danced with His cousins, and
family/school FRIENDS.
Your web page shows NO scholarship whatever!
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| User: "john w" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
31 Dec 2007 01:40:24 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:11:36 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:40:37 GMT, (Ted J L)
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
QUESTION: "David danced before the Lord and Psalm 150:4
says we are to praise God with dance. Why are you, therefore,
against dancing in churches today?"
DANCING
http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/dancing.html
August 12, 2000 (David W. Cloud, Fundamental Baptist
Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061,
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org)
I read a few paragraphs of this with some amusement.
I guess the authors of your silly web page never attended a Jewish
wedding or a Jewish barmitzpha.
Our Lord Jesus attended BOTH, and I PROMISE you, He danced at both!
(grin) you have decided that Jesus danced because it was the custom of the
day for jews to dance? ;-)
????? It's my impression, and the impression of the scholars I
discussed THIS issue with (and His consumption of alcohol, as was
CUSTOMARY), that-- so long as the Jewish custom wasn't SINFUL-- some
were-- He would "fit in."
What was the point of Him creating almost 200 gallons of fermented
wine at the wedding if it wasn't Him "fitting in." ??
Now, if you want to call that "license?"
Picture this: Jesus in NO way controlled the behavior of those
around him, nor were people -- by default-- inclined to their best
behavior when He was around. (proof incident: The cleansing of the
temple. They didn't stop sinning when Jesus walked in)
Picture Jesus at a bachelor party when He's 25. An old buddy is
getting married (Jesus hasn't yet begun preaching/He's just another
young Jewish man, if well known) Jesus arrives at the party, delivers
a gift; say it's a case of good kosher wine.
Within 15 minutes of Jesus' arrival, as was customary in some
circles, the "dancing, stripping *****" shows up. As she begins
gyrating, taking this off, then that, kissing "the It" guy
passionately, rubbing herself against him provocatively, then grabbing
the next guy, and then the next, intending to "do" every guy there,
does Jesus "hang around for His "" turn""? Or does he say, "This isn't
cool!" Gets ignored (hey, it's the CUSTOM), and apologizes, then
leaves?
It's the custom among young males His age (let's pretend it is), but
it's sinful.
He excuses Himself and leaves before ANY contact with the young
*****.
He partook of the customs when there was no sinful activity
involved.
If there was sinful activity, if a few words from Him didn't STOP
the activity, He would leave.
Not that I disagree with you, but I believe that I will remember that
argument for future reference for other things.
Fine, as long as you try to apply scripture, and not just "win a
round."
And I will not promise to "get into it" with you, since I don't
consider us "equals" by any stretch.
I am born again; I believe you follow "false gods."
(it WAS the custom), and He danced with FEMALES (at LEAST with His
mother and His sisters!
Er....I don't know if it was the custom to dance with members of the
opposite sex, sir.
You evidently haven't been to many Jewish weddings or Barmitzphas.
Certainly Orthodox Jews don't mix sexes in the dance NOW.
I don't recall it ever being said that Jesus was "orthodox."
I get the distinct impression from scripture (COULD be wrong,
certainly) that He partook in many / most of the customs of His day.
CUSTOMS. Not just observing the written law.
I'll have to do some further research, but I believe that dancing was pretty
segregated; men with men, women with women. It was an expression of joy and
worship, not a courtship ritual.
....at least, not when it was done publically or in ceremonies like
weddings.
He likely danced with His cousins, and
family/school FRIENDS.
Your web page shows NO scholarship whatever!
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| User: "Diana" |
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31 Dec 2007 09:44:15 AM |
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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And I will not promise to "get into it" with you, since I don't
consider us "equals" by any stretch.
Nice to know that you recognize your intellectual betters, john.
I am born again; I believe you follow "false gods."
john, john....you honestly believe that you are 'born again,' and consider
yourself better than me?
My, my.
....and you don't see a small difficulty with that?
(it WAS the custom), and He danced with FEMALES (at LEAST with His
mother and His sisters!
Er....I don't know if it was the custom to dance with members of the
opposite sex, sir.
You evidently haven't been to many Jewish weddings or Barmitzphas.
That's "bar mitzvah," you blithering idiot. You've been corrected about that
a couple of times now. No, I haven't been to many Jewish weddings or Bar
mitzvahs. Or Bat mitzvahs. In fact, I haven't been to any. However, my
daughter works for an Orthodox Jew, and she not only has been to many, she's
organized more than a few...and trust me on this one. Orthodox jews do not
dance with members of the opposite sex at weddings. In fact, the sexes are
separated by a curtain.
Certainly Orthodox Jews don't mix sexes in the dance NOW.
I don't recall it ever being said that Jesus was "orthodox."
Oh, good grief. What, you think He was Reformed, Conservative or Humanistic?
The point behind Orthodoxy is that they keep, as much as is possible, the
customs of the time when there was a Temple. You know, the time of Jesus.
There is a great deal of speculation that Jesus may have been very
influenced by the Essenes---in which case you KNOW that He never danced with
a woman.
john, don't you ever do any research? Really?
I get the distinct impression from scripture (COULD be wrong,
certainly) that He partook in many / most of the customs of His day.
CUSTOMS. Not just observing the written law.
Careful there. The CUSTOM of the day was that any young male Jew of Jesus'
age had to be married. Indeed, it was unheard of for an unmarried Jew to
preach in the synagogues, yet He did. Are you going to claim now that He had
to have been married?
The custom of that day, as it is today among Orthodox Jews, is that dancing
is encouraged--and not mixed, at least not during celebrations like weddings
and bar mitzvahs.
I'll have to do some further research, but I believe that dancing was
pretty
segregated; men with men, women with women. It was an expression of joy
and
worship, not a courtship ritual.
....at least, not when it was done publically or in ceremonies like
weddings.
He likely danced with His cousins, and
family/school FRIENDS.
Your web page shows NO scholarship whatever!
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| User: "A John 3:16 Whosoever" |
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31 Dec 2007 11:35:07 AM |
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On Dec 31, 7:44=A0am, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in messagenews:u45hn35borv4f84lmss4h=
gcd98nhfnts36@4ax.com...
Nice to know that you recognize your intellectual betters, john.
Wow, that sounds like "self-righteous, supercillious dismissal" to me.
That's "bar mitzvah," you blithering idiot.
Wow, name-calling. Very evolved and intellectually superior.
Oh, good grief. What, you think He was Reformed, Conservative or Humanisti=
c?
BTW, that should be "Reform", not "Reformed".
You know, Diana, it seems to me that it's not "self-righteous,
supercillious dismissal" in general you have a problem with - the
problem is when you think someone has done it to you (because
obviously, you're quite comfortable operating in that manner
yourself).
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| User: "john w" |
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31 Dec 2007 01:58:39 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:44:15 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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<snip to>
And I will not promise to "get into it" with you, since I don't
consider us "equals" by any stretch.
Nice to know that you recognize your intellectual betters, john.
I absolutely do! You have that right! I have known several men of
the intellect of Einstein. My son is one.
I admire those who manipulate numbers, as depicted on the show
"NUMB3RS."
There is one in my family like that.
I admire those who can sit down to the piano-- or to any musical
instrument-- and in a matter of WEEKS-- sound like a Liberace.
There is one in my family like THAT! There were two, but my mother
has passed.
I admire those who can write BEAUTIFULLY.
There's one in my family who does that.
I admire those who are gifted with technology. There are TWO in my
family like that: my son and me.
You?
chuckle.
When you must pay YOURSELF such compliments... "go right ahead!"
You've certainly impressed one of us!
I am born again; I believe you follow "false gods."
john, john....you honestly believe that you are 'born again,' and consider
yourself better than me?
???? "Better than you?" I don't believe I used those words. Nor
was that my intent. Are you going to truly start the New Year by
putting words in people's mouths, intent in their hearts?
tsk tsk
I am born again; you are not.
That's what I said; that's what I meant, and what I mean.
And, Mormon, Roman Catholic, Christian Scientist, Jehovah's Witness,
Jew, Atheist,
if you truly wanted to follow after God, right on His coat tails,
this issue of "being born again"...
(Jesus said "if you want to enter the Kingdom of God, you MUST BE
BORN AGAIN)
Being born again wouldn't be a hindrance.
Being born again is a hindrance because you choose to follow MEN,
rather than God.
JN 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.<
[ You MUST be born again; and YOU aren't interested. ]
17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world,
but to save the world through him. <
v
18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not
believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the
name of God's one and only Son.
^
v
19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved
darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
^
20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the
light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by
the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that
what he has done has been done through God."
My, my.
...and you don't see a small difficulty with that?
I see a problem with you putting words in my mouth.
(it WAS the custom), and He danced with FEMALES (at LEAST with His
mother and His sisters!
Er....I don't know if it was the custom to dance with members of the
opposite sex, sir.
Correct: You do not know.
You evidently haven't been to many Jewish weddings or Barmitzphas.
That's "bar mitzvah," you blithering idiot.
^ ^ ^ Wow! That's civil.
Clean up your attitude, or we can stop communicating with this post.
You've been corrected about that
a couple of times now.
Not that I was aware of. If you are of the false impression that I
read your every post, and hang on your every word-- your every gem--
be corrected. I do not.
No, I haven't been to many Jewish weddings or Bar
mitzvahs. Or Bat mitzvahs. In fact, I haven't been to any. However, my
daughter works for an Orthodox Jew, and she not only has been to many, she's
organized more than a few...and trust me on this one. Orthodox jews do not
dance with members of the opposite sex at weddings. In fact, the sexes are
separated by a curtain.
That's contrary to the information I have been given.
Certainly Orthodox Jews don't mix sexes in the dance NOW.
I don't recall it ever being said that Jesus was "orthodox."
Oh, good grief. What, you think He was Reformed, Conservative or Humanistic?
That was never spelled out.
Scripture doesn't specify, so I doubt seriously if "your sources"
have better information than I do.
The point behind Orthodoxy is that they keep, as much as is possible, the
customs of the time when there was a Temple. You know, the time of Jesus.
^ ^ ^ ^ Thanks for clarifying that. No, I was not aware that there
was a temple in Jesus' day.
That's why His statement, "Destroy this Temple, and in 3 days, I will
rebuild it" always puzzled me.
The "cleansing of the Temple" scenario also always confused me.
"How could He have cleansed the Temple-- or destroyed it? There was
no temple!"
There is a great deal of speculation that Jesus may have been very
influenced by the Essenes---in which case you KNOW that He never danced with
a woman.
Key word: "Speculation."
john, don't you ever do any research? Really?
?????? I could perhaps ask you the same question. Likely, you
trust the contents of the Internet FAR more than I do.
I trust my scholars. And frankly-- as I tried to indicate-- I could
certainly be wrong about Jesus dancing with women.
I don't recall that topic ever coming up at church OR in seminary.
It was my understanding that He did.
It's not an issue I wish to get hung up on.
Is THAT clear enough?
I get the distinct impression from scripture (COULD be wrong,
certainly) that He partook in many / most of the customs of His day.
CUSTOMS. Not just observing the written law.
Careful there. The CUSTOM of the day was that any young male Jew of Jesus'
age had to be married.
"Careful?" I said "He partook in MANY/ MOST..." I didn't say
"all."
Indeed, it was unheard of for an unmarried Jew to
preach in the synagogues, yet He did. Are you going to claim now that He had
to have been married?
I believe I said, "He partook in MANY / MOST..." I didn't say
"all."
You are truly NOT a detail person, are you?
The custom of that day, as it is today among Orthodox Jews, is that dancing
is encouraged--and not mixed, at least not during celebrations like weddings
and bar mitzvahs.
I'll have to do some further research, but I believe that dancing was
pretty
segregated; men with men, women with women. It was an expression of joy
and
worship, not a courtship ritual.
....at least, not when it was done publically or in ceremonies like
weddings.
He likely danced with His cousins, and
family/school FRIENDS.
Your web page shows NO scholarship whatever!
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| User: "Diana" |
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| Title: Re: "Dancing", A Fundamental Baptist Perspective |
31 Dec 2007 02:57:01 PM |
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"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:44:15 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
"john w @yahoo.com>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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<snip to>
And I will not promise to "get into it" with you, since I don't
consider us "equals" by any stretch.
Nice to know that you recognize your intellectual betters, john.
I absolutely do! You have that right! I have known several men of
the intellect of Einstein. My son is one.
I admire those who manipulate numbers, as depicted on the show
"NUMB3RS."
There is one in my family like that.
I admire those who can sit down to the piano-- or to any musical
instrument-- and in a matter of WEEKS-- sound like a Liberace.
There is one in my family like THAT! There were two, but my mother
has passed.
I admire those who can write BEAUTIFULLY.
There's one in my family who does that.
I admire those who are gifted with technology. There are TWO in my
family like that: my son and me.
You?
chuckle.
When you must pay YOURSELF such compliments... "go right ahead!"
You've certainly impressed one of us!
(laughing very hard.....) You are an endless source of amusement, john. I
just wish you understood what the funny part is. I really hate knowing that
you have no clue what you just said.
I am born again; I believe you follow "false gods."
john, john....you honestly believe that you are 'born again,' and consider
yourself better than me?
???? "Better than you?" I don't believe I used those words. Nor
was that my intent.
No? In what, then, are we not 'equal'?
Are you going to truly start the New Year by
putting words in people's mouths, intent in their hearts?
tsk tsk
I am born again; you are not.
You know that, do you?
<snip preaching to>
That's "bar mitzvah," you blithering idiot.
^ ^ ^ Wow! That's civil.
That's earned. If you are going to correct my grammar and spelling, you
cannot afford to goof up yourself, even once.
Clean up your attitude, or we can stop communicating with this post.
Promise?
You've been corrected about that
a couple of times now.
Not that I was aware of.
Liar.
If you are of the false impression that I
read your every post, and hang on your every word-- your every gem--
be corrected. I do not.
I didn't say that *I* had corrected you.
No, I haven't been to many Jewish weddings or Bar
mitzvahs. Or Bat mitzvahs. In fact, I haven't been to any. However, my
daughter works for an Orthodox Jew, and she not only has been to many,
she's
organized more than a few...and trust me on this one. Orthodox jews do not
dance with members of the opposite sex at weddings. In fact, the sexes are
separated by a curtain.
That's contrary to the information I have been given.
Consider yourself corrected.
Certainly Orthodox Jews don't mix sexes in the dance NOW.
I don't recall it ever being said that Jesus was "orthodox."
Oh, good grief. What, you think He was Reformed, Conservative or
Humanistic?
That was never spelled out.
Scripture doesn't specify, so I doubt seriously if "your sources"
have better information than I do.
john, I am quite aware of your doubts. I discount them.
The point behind Orthodoxy is that they keep, as much as is possible, the
customs of the time when there was a Temple. You know, the time of Jesus.
^ ^ ^ ^ Thanks for clarifying that. No, I was not aware that there
was a temple in Jesus' day.
You are kidding, right?
(He's kidding, right?)
That's why His statement, "Destroy this Temple, and in 3 days, I will
rebuild it" always puzzled me.
The "cleansing of the Temple" scenario also always confused me.
"How could He have cleansed the Temple-- or destroyed it? There was
no temple!"
Oh. My. He's not kidding.
Yes, john, there was a temple. It wasn't destroyed until 70 AD, by the
Romans. Here; go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_in_Jerusalem and
read all about it. I think that Wikipedia is good for you.
There is a great deal of speculation that Jesus may have been very
influenced by the Essenes---in which case you KNOW that He never danced
with
a woman.
Key word: "Speculation."
john, don't you ever do any research? Really?
I was correct. You don't do any research.
?????? I could perhaps ask you the same question. Likely, you
trust the contents of the Internet FAR more than I do.
What, is your watchword "If it's on the internet, it's NOT true?" john, Go
to your library. open a real book. You will STILL find out that the second
Temple, authorized and built by Cyrus and renovated by Herod, existed and
was accepted by the Jews...and by JESUS, who was extremely upset at its
desecration...existed during His life.
I trust my scholars. And frankly-- as I tried to indicate-- I could
certainly be wrong about Jesus dancing with women.
I don't recall that topic ever coming up at church OR in seminary.
It was my understanding that He did.
It's not an issue I wish to get hung up on.
Is THAT clear enough?
Ah. You have to admit that you were wrong, and you don't much like the idea,
so you want to move on now.
OK.
I get the distinct impression from scripture (COULD be wrong,
certainly) that He partook in many / most of the customs of His day.
CUSTOMS. Not just observing the written law.
Careful there. The CUSTOM of the day was that any young male Jew of Jesus'
age had to be married.
"Careful?" I said "He partook in MANY/ MOST..." I didn't say
"all."
Indeed, it was unheard of for an unmarried Jew to
preach in the synagogues, yet He did. Are you going to claim now that He
had
to have been married?
I believe I said, "He partook in MANY / MOST..." I didn't say
"all."
You are truly NOT a detail person, are you?
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
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john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
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On Dec 31, 12:57 pm, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. Feel good now?
(diana) Actually, I'm getting over the final symptoms of a rather nasty
cold, thank you. I appreciate your concern.
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31 Dec 2007 06:25:49 PM |
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john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. =A0Feel good now?
(diana) Actually, I'm getting over the final symptoms of a rather nasty
cold, thank you. I appreciate your concern.
And the lack of appropriate concern on your part is noted.
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31 Dec 2007 08:39:22 PM |
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"<A John 3:16 Whosoever>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 2:27 pm, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. Feel good now?
(diana) Actually, I'm getting over the final symptoms of a rather nasty
cold, thank you. I appreciate your concern.
And the lack of appropriate concern on your part is noted.
john, there are all sorts of conditions that are listed under the term
'mentally ill.'
before you can trade on that with me, you will have to be more specific as
to the nature and type.
......and I would not, if I were you, be to supportive of Kelly's defense.
After all, I notice that she isn't all that understanding of your foibles,
either.
However, if you would RATHER that I simply pat you on the head,dismiss you
as not being worthy of respect because you are officially nuts, and thus
excuse you from responsibility for your own insults, stupidity and
assininity, fine. I can do that.
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"<A John 3:16 Whosoever>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 2:27 pm, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. Feel good now?
(diana) Actually,
I believe I said our time is done.
john w
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:39:22 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
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"<A John 3:16 Whosoever>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 2:27 pm, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. Feel good now?
(diana) Actually,
I believe I said our time is done.
Your time may be. With all due respect, you have no control over my time.
Happy New Year, john.
john w
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01 Jan 2008 04:25:23 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:39:22 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
wrote:
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"<A John 3:16 Whosoever>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 2:27 pm, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. Feel good now?
(diana) Actually,
I believe I said our time is done.
Your time may be. With all due respect, you have no control over my time.
I meant, slow one, that your time of conversing with me is done.
I killfiled you a day or so ago, when I read back over a dozen or
more posts from you to me, and I didn't see even ONE kind word, or
anything that wasn't condescending.
That you draw me back into "conversation" is now MY fault.
john w
Happy New Year, john.
john w
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:25:10 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:39:22 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
wrote:
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"<A John 3:16 Whosoever>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 2:27 pm, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. Feel good now?
(diana) Actually,
I believe I said our time is done.
Your time may be. With all due respect, you have no control over my time.
I meant, slow one, that your time of conversing with me is done.
.....he says, as he continues to converse with me, and continues to do so
after he claims to have killfiled me...
john, you might want to look up the definition of 'credibility.' It might be
a real eye-opener.
I killfiled you a day or so ago, when I read back over a dozen or
more posts from you to me, and I didn't see even ONE kind word, or
anything that wasn't condescending.
That you draw me back into "conversation" is now MY fault.
Well, I suppose that's progress. You are now admitting fault. john, sweetie,
if you WANT kind words, you might try to actually say a few.
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31 Dec 2007 09:03:50 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:27:00 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
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"<A John 3:16 Whosoever>" <kaseybeck61@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 31, 12:57 pm, "Diana" <diana...@noyoudont.com> wrote:
john, your elevator doesn't go above the basement.
He's diagnosed mentally ill. Feel good now?
We have just agreed that you can't clean up your "one-up" attitude,
so our time together is quite done.
john w
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31 Dec 2007 09:22:35 PM |
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We have just agreed that you can't clean up your "one-up" attitude,
so our time together is quite done.
uh huh!!
sure.
john w
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:03:50 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
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We have just agreed that you can't clean up your "one-up" attitude,
so our time together is quite done.
uh huh!!
sure.
I know. He makes these promises....
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01 Jan 2008 04:27:29 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:25:40 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:03:50 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
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We have just agreed that you can't clean up your "one-up" attitude,
so our time together is quite done.
uh huh!!
sure.
I know. He makes these promises....
There is an explanation for the above, if ANYBODY BOTHERED to ask,
and didn't PREFER to simply make up ugly stories.
I killfile. At least, that is my intention. However, I have not
learned to do it with the PROGRAM, so I am stuck making lists.
I either forget to put people on the list, or I forget to look at the
list.
I will renew my efforts to look at the list, and not post to you OR
CB.
I truly have better uses for my time.
john w
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01 Jan 2008 07:29:15 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:25:40 GMT, "Diana" <dianaiad@noyoudont.com>
wrote:
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"CB" <country2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:03:50 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We have just agreed that you can't clean up your "one-up" attitude,
so our time together is quite done.
uh huh!!
sure.
I know. He makes these promises....
There is an explanation for the above, if ANYBODY BOTHERED to ask,
and didn't PREFER to simply make up ugly stories.
I killfile. At least, that is my intention. However, I have not
learned to do it with the PROGRAM, so I am stuck making lists.
Oh. If that's the problem, that's an easy fix. You can't killfile with
google.
If you are using Outlook Express, you open the message from the person you
want to killfile, go up to the top toolbar to the word 'message,' select
'block sender,' and you've done it.
I believe that the operation for most other usenet readers is fairly
similar.
I hope that helped you.
I either forget to put people on the list, or I forget to look at the
list.
I will renew my efforts to look at the list, and not post to you OR
CB.
I truly have better uses for my time.
Yes, you do. True, I am being entertained, but quite frankly, baiting you is
an unworthy use of anybody's time; it's a little like tying cans to the
tails of really poisonous lizards; it may be easy, the lizard may fall for
it every time, and it may even save lives because the lizard is too busy
with the can to go after an innocent. However,ultimately it is beneath one.
The trouble is, I can't seem to resist the temptation.
Therefore, if I have given you the tools to remove yourself from my
temptation, I will be very happy for it.
Diana
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01 Jan 2008 06:39:04 PM |
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There is an explanation for the above, if ANYBODY BOTHERED to ask,
and didn't PREFER to simply make up ugly stories.
But no one cares.
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:03:50 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
We have just agreed that you can't clean up your "one-up" attitude,=
so our time together is quite done.
uh huh!!
sure.
I know. He makes these promises....=20
=20
There is an explanation for the above, if ANYBODY BOTHERED to ask,
and didn't PREFER to simply make up ugly stories.
=20
I killfile. At least, that is my intention. However, I have not
learned to do it with the PROGRAM, so I am stuck making lists.
poor poor stupid! I remember when you had to get a 5 yearold to=20
show you how to receive a gift from paypal....
I either forget to put people on the list, or I forget to look at the
list.
sure queen liar
I will renew my efforts to look at the list, and not post to you OR
CB.
oh so scrambled!
I truly have better uses for my time.
you have nothing to do but pick your nose, and practice your=20
tourettes.
john w
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<snip to>
And I will not promise to "get into it" with you, since I don't
consider us "equals" by any stretch.
Nice to know that you recognize your intellectual betters, john.
I absolutely do! You have that right! I have known several men of
the intellect of Einstein. My son is one.
I admire those who manipulate numbers, as depicted on the show
"NUMB3RS."
There is one in my family like that.
I admire those who can sit down to the piano-- or to any musical
instrument-- and in a matter of WEEKS-- sound like a Liberace.
There is one in my family like THAT! There were two, but my mother
has passed.
I admire those who can write BEAUTIFULLY.
There's one in my family who does that.
I admire those who are gifted with technology. There are TWO in my
family like that: my son and me.
You?
chuckle.
When you must pay YOURSELF such compliments... "go right ahead!"
You've certainly impressed one of us!
(laughing very hard.....) You are an endless source of amusement, john.
:-) Why, Thank you!
I hear that a lot.
People tell me constantly how I make them laugh.
I
just wish you understood what the funny part is.
tsk tsk. Your delusions return!
I really hate knowing that
you have no clue what you just said.
smirk.
I am born again; I believe you follow "false gods."
john, john....you honestly believe that you are 'born again,' and consider
yourself better than me?
???? "Better than you?" I don't believe I used those words. Nor
was that my intent.
No? In what, then, are we not 'equal'?
I believe I made that CRYSTAL clear.
As clever as you OBVIOUSLY are (cracking jokes I don't get), I'm
surprised that you would say such!
Are you going to truly start the New Year by
putting words in people's mouths, intent in their hearts?
tsk tsk
I am born again; you are not.
You know that, do you?
I KNOW that if you are a Mormon, you are not born again. I know more
than you may think I know about Mormon dogma.
<snip preaching to>
^ ^ ^ ^ Now, THAT ^ wasn't polite!
That's "bar mitzvah," you blithering idiot.
^ ^ ^ Wow! That's civil.
That's earned.
smirk. So, now you are judge, jury, executioner?
Last I looked, He is the Judge!
I see NO scripture where He appointed you, or stepped down!
If you are going to correct my grammar and spelling, you
cannot afford to goof up yourself, even once.
no one's perfect, except.. MAYBE you!
Clean up your attitude, or we can stop communicating with this post.
Promise?
Absolutely!
And since that seemed as snippy as before,
G'bye!
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I AM a man of my word.
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wrote:
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<snip to>
And I will not promise to "get into it" with you, since I don't
consider us "equals" by any stretch.
Nice to know that you recognize your intellectual betters, john.
I absolutely do! You have that right! I have known several men of
the intellect of Einstein. My son is one.
I admire those who manipulate numbers, as depicted on the show
"NUMB3RS."
There is one in my family like that.
I admire those who can sit down to the piano-- or to any musical
instrument-- and in a matter of WEEKS-- sound like a Liberace.
There is one in my family like THAT! There were two, but my mother
has passed.
I admire those who can write BEAUTIFULLY.
There's one in my family who does that.
I admire those who are gifted with technology. There are TWO in my
family like that: my son and me.
You?
chuckle.
When you must pay YOURSELF such compliments... "go right ahead!"
You've certainly impressed one of us!
(laughing very hard.....) You are an endless source of amusement, john.
:-) Why, Thank you!
I hear that a lot.
People tell me constantly how I make them laugh.
I
just wish you understood what the funny part is.
tsk tsk. Your delusions return!
I really hate knowing that
you have no clue what you just said.
smirk.
I am born again; I believe you follow "false gods."
john, john....you honestly believe that you are 'born again,' and
consider
yourself better than me?
???? "Better than you?" I don't believe I used those words. Nor
was that my intent.
No? In what, then, are we not 'equal'?
I believe I made that CRYSTAL clear.
As clever as you OBVIOUSLY are (cracking jokes I don't get), I'm
surprised that you would say such!
Are you going to truly start the New Year by
putting words in people's mouths, intent in their hearts?
tsk tsk
I am born again; you are not.
You know that, do you?
I KNOW that if you are a Mormon, you are not born again. I know more
than you may think I know about Mormon dogma.
<snip preaching to>
^ ^ ^ ^ Now, THAT ^ wasn't polite!
That's "bar mitzvah," you blithering idiot.
^ ^ ^ Wow! That's civil.
That's earned.
smirk. So, now you are judge, jury, executioner?
Last I looked, He is the Judge!
I see NO scripture where He appointed you, or stepped down!
If you are going to correct my grammar and spelling, you
cannot afford to goof up yourself, even once.
no one's perfect, except.. MAYBE you!
Clean up your attitude, or we can stop communicating with this post.
Promise?
Absolutely!
And since that seemed as snippy as before,
G'bye!
snip
I AM a man of my word.
We'll see.
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31 Dec 2007 09:23:58 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:02:58 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
(laughing very hard.....) You are an endless source of amusement, john.
:-) Why, Thank you!
I hear that a lot.
People tell me constantly how I make them laugh.
Yes, you are a riot!!
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01 Jan 2008 12:08:34 AM |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:23:58 -0600, CB <country2000@hotmail.com>
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© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:02:58 -0800, john w <johnw<no>@yahoo.com>
wrote:
(laughing very hard.....) You are an endless source of amusement, john.
:-) Why, Thank you!
I hear that a lot.
People tell me constantly how I make them laugh.
Yes, you are a riot!!
You are pathetic!
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