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DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two
questions we should consider. There are those who say the Prophet
Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is "pure fiction
based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet, will the events
he described be fulfilled? In answer to the question of his
authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work: thus revealing Satan
to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
BRIEF REVIEW
In the MAJOR PROPHETS and MINOR PROPHETS we have found many
prophecies of the end of this world and the coming of the Lord.
We found within them recognizable signs (key words) which helped
us put similar prophecies into groups. But, though we are able to
sort them into a rough chronological order, we found no sequence
given by the Major or Minor Prophets.
Although there is subtle hint of the Two Advents of the Lord
within prophecies given by the Major and Minor prophets, we are
not told how these events fit into the chronological progression
of human affairs.
In Daniel we find a vision of the sequence of End Time Events
given (significantly) to a pagan king.
VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
Two important facts which we must keep in mind is, first, Daniel
received communications in visual form. He transcribed the
visions into words to record for us. The words are metaphors. He
used words (like a painter uses pigments) to paint a word picture
and pass the visual communication on to us. Second, although the
visions and the words Daniel used to record the visions are
metaphorical, they do contain a literal message: the meaning
designated by God, their Composer. It is His interpretation for
which we seek. 2 Peter 1:20-21.
UNDERSTANDING IS FROM GOD
God gave the vision of the sequence of world ruling empires,
recorded in Daniel's Second Chapter, to the King of Babylon. But
his "wise" men could not figure out its meaning. God gave the
understanding of the vision to Daniel. An understanding of God's
messages is a gift from God. This is an important lesson for us.
Dan. 2:19-21, 12:9-10, Pro. 9:10, Ecc. 2:26. Luke 24:45, James 1:5.
THE SEQUENCE OF NATIONS
This visual communication gives the sequence and description of
the empires which will rule the world from then until That Day.
The first was Babylon. This Empire ruled all the known civilized
world, and destroyed the Nation Judah and the Beloved City by the
will of God. 606-586 B.C. Isa. 39:6-7, Jer. 39:1-2, 2 Kings 25:1.
Second was the Medo-Persian Empire. The Empire of silver defeated
Babylon in 538 B.C. Dan. 5:30-31. It is important to note, the
Medo-Persian army failed to destroy Babylon.
Greece was the third Empire. Alexander the Great defeated the
Medes and Persians in 331 B.C., without (this fact is very
important) destroying either Babylon or Jerusalem.
The first part of the fourth Empire was Rome, the legs of iron.
Dan. 2:33, 40. Rome conquered Babylon (Syria under the Seleucids)
in 54 B.C., and again in 114-117 A.D., without destroying it. For
the most part Babylon remained a Roman "border territory." In 63
B.C. Rome acquired Palestine, without destroying Jerusalem, and
ruled the known world until 476 A.D. (ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITANNICA
MACROPAEDIA, Vol. 11. p. 989-90, Vol. 17, p. 947-51.)
It was during the reign of these kings that our Lord set up His
Kingdom. Dan. 2:44, Acts 2:37-47. But the Kingdom (Heaven) is not
yet given to the Chosen People. Dan. 7:27.
This vision depicts the second half of the fourth empire as being
"iron mixed with miry clay." This empire (Rome re-born) will
conquer the world in the lifetime of this generation. This is
revealed by the fact that this empire and its ruler will be
destroyed at the second coming of the Messiah. Dan. 2:43-45,
7:26, Rev. 14:17-20, 19:11-21, 20:7-10.
A MISTAKE
It is also revealed, by this fact, that those who teach this
second half of the Roman empire is the Holy Roman Catholic Church
are in error. For, while the Catholic Church does exist today, it
is not now a temporal/secular world ruling empire. Also, it was
brought down by the hand of man, not the personal appearance of
the Lord. Dan. 2:40-43, 8:25.
ROME RISING
The many parts of the fourth empire, which will conquer the world
in our lifetime, are now visible as the NATO-Common Market
Alliance Nations. Daniel's Seventh Chapter describes this empire
in more detail.
Daniel 7:1-2. "I saw visions by night, and, behold, four winds
strove upon the great sea..." The "sea" is peoples and the
"winds" are spirits. Rev. 7:1-2, 13:1, 17:15. The winds "whip up"
the seas in order to bring about a desired result. For example,
the spirits arrange a national leader desired by Satan, and he,
by controlling this man, controls that nation. Historical
examples include the Pharaoh of Egypt and the King of Babylon.
More modern examples are Hitler and Saddam Hussein.
THE END TIME BEASTS
In studying this Seventh Chapter it will become apparent it is
divided into several major parts. First is the description of the
four beasts. Note, the first three are not described as World
ruling Empires as were Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
Verses 2 to 8. The next section, verses 9-11, describes the
fourth empire to rule this world and its rise to power, as well
as its destruction at the end of this world.
Verse 12 is a very significant statement, to which we will
return. Verses 17 to 25 are an explanation, giving more detail,
of the four beasts recorded in verses 2-8. Verses 13 and 14, and
22, 26, 27 are a repeat, with more detail, of verses 9 to 11. It
is important to note these descriptions of the "giving of the
Kingdom to the people" do not use the term "set up" or
"establish," because this was accomplished in A.D. 30. Acts
2:37-47, Col. 1:13. Dan. 2:44, Luke 9:27.
FIND THE CLUES
Before discussing the identities of these beasts, we need to look
for an internal key word by which we can connect this vision to
other communications, and events on earth; and a sign of the
times by which we can recognize the earth time in which these
events occur. Clearly the fourth beast (Satan and his empire)
will be destroyed at the second coming of the Messiah. Verses
9-11, 13-14, 22, 26-27. 2 Thes. 2:8, Rev. 20:10. Therefore the
events depicted in this vision will be fulfilled in the lifetime
of the generation who witnessed the return of Israel to
Jerusalem. Luke 21:24, Mat. 24:32-34.
END TIME ROME
This beast (nation) is Rome re-born; the second half of the
fourth kingdom, the part of iron mixed with miry clay. Compare
7:23, 26-27 to 2:44-45. The last half of the fourth kingdom in
the Second Chapter will rule the world until the Lord comes. The
fourth beast in the Seventh Chapter will rule the world until the
Lord comes. Both will be destroyed by the Lord when He comes.
Thus, they are the same beast. Even now the NATO-European Common
Market Alliance is being rewritten. (TIME, March 5, '84, p. 20.
ATLANTIC, April '84, p. 43.) Which State will rule the United
States of Europe? Greece. Dan. 8:21, Joel 3:6, Zec. 9:13. See pp.
175, 181.
THE BEASTS IDENTIFIED
Who are the first three beasts? (7:4, 5, 6.) It is suggested by
verses 2 and 3 that all four beasts "came up" at the same time;
that they co-exist with the Beasts Kingdom. Can this be correct?
THE UNITED STATES
Verse 4. "The first was like a lion..." In Prophetic descriptions
of nations, when a nation is faithful and fulfills God's purpose,
it is depicted as a regal beast. However, when a nation is
unfaithful she is described as a *****. Hosea 1:2, Rev. 17:1.
Thus, one nation may be described by different icons or ideograms
at different times in its existence. The term "man" means
"human." Gen. 1:27.
Daniel watched this beast for some time, until its "wings" (speed
of conquest) were taken away and it was made to stand up like a
"man." Thus, a beast standing like a human; a nation acting like
a person--as this country did under President Carter. What does
the human heart mean? Secular Humanism, the Anthropic principle,
"man as god," the center of all he surveys. "Ye shall be as
gods..." Gen. 3:5.
From about 1600 until 1800 this nation was a haven for those who
fled religious persecution in Europe so they could worship God
according to their Spirit led interpretation of His Word. But
this nation, since the late 1800's, has gone a-whoring after the
false gods of materialism and nuclear/electromagnetic energy; and
has led other nations down the path to nuclear destruction. The
Lion was the United States of America -- now she is Babylon.
RUSSIA
The bear is Gog and Ma-gog, the "land of the north," known today
as Russia. In what year was Russia conquered by the delusion of
God-less Communism? Dan. 7:5, Rev. 2:7. See pp. 175, 181.
Who are the three ribs between its teeth? Look at a globe of the
world. Which three nations look like spare-ribs dangling in front
of the bear? Finland, Sweden and Norway. (READERS DIGEST, April
'84, p. 94.)
CHINA
The Leopard is China, and her cohorts, the Kings of the East.
Dan. 7:6, 11:44, Rev. 9:14, 16:12. Expect war in the east as
China consolidates her empire.
THESE NATIONS CO-EXIST
All these nations can be seen in the beast of Revelation 13:1
(after three of the horns are pulled up). Daniel reveals the
first three beasts, whose lives the fourth beast spares, must
exist at the same time. Dan. 7:12 explains. "Yet their lives were
spared..." The Ram (Medo-Persia) did not spare the government of
Babylon. Nor did the Goat (Alexander) spare the government of
Medo-Persia. Yet these three beasts (America, Russia and China)
will submit to the Beast's (the European Empire under Satan) rule
and he (Satan) will let them "co-exist in peace." Then the people
of this world will exclaim, "Now we have world peace!" It is
written, "By peace he shall destroy many." Dan. 8:25. Rev. 13:1,
17:13-14.
A MORE DETAILED SEQUENCE
The vision in Chapter 8 is also in several sections. The Ram is
Medo-Persia, the silver kingdom in 2:32 which conquered Babylon.
The rough goat is Greece, the brass part in 2:39. 8:5-8, 21. The
first horn is Alexander, the four horns are the Kingdoms which
survived his death.
Verse 9: "And out of one of them came a little horn, which waxed
exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and
toward the pleasant land." As is clear from these visions, the
"little horn" is a man (King or President) who rules a nation.
The questions we need to answer now are: Which nation is this?
Who is the man who will rule? And, what is meant by "Out of one
of them?"
THE PARTS OF THE VISION
From verse 9 to 12 is a description of this "little horn."
Verses 13 and 14 are a conversation between Daniel and the
angels. From verse 15 through 18 we are given details of Daniel's
request for more understanding of the meaning of the vision.
Verse 20 is the identity of the Ram, and verse 21 gives the
identity of the rough goat. Verse 22 shows Alexander's death and
the division of the empire among his four Generals. Rome is not
named. Verses 23, 24 and 25 are another description of the
"little horn" of verse 9, as "he stands against the Prince of
princes" shows. Verse 26 is a very significant statement, to
which we will return.
END TIME GREECE
This prophecy is not about Rome because Greece is named, and,
Rome was broken by many hands. (vv. 21, 22, 25.) This prophecy is
not about Alexander either: since verse 11 states "His sanctuary
was cast down..." And, verse 14 states, "unto 2,300 days; then
shall the sanctuary be cleansed." If this was prophecy about
Alexander then he was to destroy the City and defile the Temple
of God -- but he did not.
Therefore, either this prophecy is about Alexander and the Word
of God has been broken; or this prophecy is not about Greece
under Alexander. This prophecy is about modern Greece, and reborn
Rome, as led by Satan.
IDENTIFY THE CLUES
Look for key words which reveal the time of this prophecy's
fulfillment. Verses 17 and 19. "For at the time of the end shall
be the vision." See verses 14, 23, 26 and Habakkuk 2:3. This
vision clearly contains pictographic descriptions of events which
will be fulfilled at The End of time.
PERIODS OF TIME GIVEN
Verse 26: Many of God's statements of amounts of time are given
in the form "a day for a year." However, He said He created the
Universe in seven days, and each day contained an evening and a
morning. The angels told Daniel, "the vision of the evening and
morning are true." Thus the 2300 evenings and mornings are
literal days, not "a day for a year." And so it is with the 1,290
and 1,335 days. These are about three and a half years; while
2300 days is 255 days short of seven years. Verses 14, 26, Gen.
1:5. Dan. 12:9-10. We will study all the prophecies of time
periods in "PROPHETIC TIME PERIODS."
THE KINGDOMS IDENTIFIED
This King and his kingdom will be seen by the descendants of
Abraham (by blood or adoption) who have witnessed the re-birth of
Israel. Rome re-born will make war on Israel re-born. Russia,
China, Africa and Babylon (the United States of America) will
submit to Satan's rule. Dan. 8:9, 24, 11:22.
The little horn in 8:9 is the same as in 7:7 -- Satan. This King
will understand magic ("craft" and "dark sentences," 8:23, 25) as
did the sorcerers of ancient Egypt and Babylon. Exo. 7:11, Dan.
2:10. 8:25, see 2:45 and 11:45.
OUT OF ONE OF THESE
"Out of one of these" (v. 9) may mean one of two things: A nation
descendant of one of the four Nations which ruled after the
breakup of Alexander's Greece. Or, a descendant of one of the
four men who ruled after Alexander. By the first definition we
are told one of four nations would conquer the world. This omits
Spain as future ruler of Europe. By the second we would be
informed that one of the four leader's progeny survived to
produce a world conqueror. This omits Jaun Carlos as the
"seventh," and last, king of Europe. Rev. 17:9-12.
HUMAN HISTORY OMITTED
We have come to Daniel 9:24 to 27, some of the most difficult
prophecy in the Word of God. We need to re-examine prophecy
concerning two events before proceeding : The establishment of
the Kingdom of God, and the day of Judgment.
Specifically, when will (or did) these events occur? Compare the
following three sets of Scripture carefully and prayerfully.
First: Isa. 2:2-4, 42:1-12, 13-15 and Jer. 23:5. Second: Dan.
2:44, Luke 9:27. 1 John 1:1-8, Col. 1:1-13, John 4:23, 1 Cor.
15:50. Third: Dan 12:2, Micah 4:1-3, Rev. 11:15-19 and 16:17-21.
According to the Master's own Word, the Kingdom was to be
established before the generation who witnessed His life and
death all died. Luke 9:27, Dan 2:44. Therefore "in the days of
these Kings" (the first half of the Roman empire) the Kingdom of
God was "set up." In other words, His people were chosen. Acts
2:37-47, Mat. 1:21, Rev. 12:10. Next, according to the Word of
God as recorded by John, Daniel and Micah, the day of Judgment is
also the day of The End of this world: THAT DAY, The Day of God,
the day of the Seventh Trumpet. "The day... the dead... should be
judged." 2 Peter 3:7, 10-12.
Therefore it seems Isaiah, Jeremiah and Daniel have glossed over,
or otherwise omitted, almost two thousand years of human history:
since they write as if the establishment of the Kingdom and
Judgment Day will occur at the same time. So we have discovered
an almost 2,000 year "gap" concealed within Isaiah 2:2-4,
42:1-12, 13-15 and Jeremiah 23:5.
This missing history is detectable in Daniel's writings. The
first place is between the "legs of iron" in 2:40 and the "feet
and toes of iron mixed with miry clay" in verse 41.
The next place is in Chapter 8 at verses 8 and 9. Verse 8
describes Alexander's death and division of the empire. Verse 9
depicts the "little horn" who will rule the world for almost
seven years (2300 days) at The End of Time. 7:8, 23-26, 8:23-25.
The next place this omission can be seen is in Chapter 9, verse
24. The Messiah died "to make an end of sins, and to make
reconciliation for iniquity." But "everlasting righteousness" is
not yet "brought in."
The next omission is between verses 26 and 27. The City and
Temple were destroyed by Titus in A.D. 70. Yet verse 27 depicts
the last seven years of man's physical existence. But there is no
mention of the history of man from A.D. 70 until the rise (and
final destruction) of Rome-reborn. Dan. 7:27 and 1 Cor. 15:50.
NEW COVENANT DEFINITIONS
Before continuing, we need to take note of an important fact.
That is, when interpreting prophecy we must interpret prophecy
which was to be fulfilled under the Old Covenant by Old Covenant
definitions. But when interpreting prophecy which is to be
fulfilled under the New Covenant, we must use New Covenant
definitions.
Example: Under the Old Covenant "My People" meant the twelve
tribes of Israel. Under the New Covenant this same term must mean
His Church. "For He shall save His people from their sins." Mat.
1:21, Acts 2:37-40. Under the Old Covenant "Twelve Tribes"
designated the blood (and adopted) descendants of Jacob. Now,
under the New Covenant, that term means the People He purchased
with His own blood. Mat. 1:21, James 1:1.
GOD GIVES UNDERSTANDING
Daniel 9:27. "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one
week; and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice
to cease, and for the over-spreading of abominations he shall
make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that
determined shall be poured out upon the desolate." This is known
as "Daniel's 70th week."
FIND THE CLUES
First, consider the recognizable key words. The term "he" is used
three times. `They' accomplish three things: Confirm the
Covenant, stop the worship, and cause desolation until the end.
THE NEW COVENANT CONFIRMED
Who is the first "he" and which "covenant" will be confirmed? The
Old Covenant was broken by God. Zec. 11:10. The Messiah made a
New Covenant with His people Israel. Mat. 1:21, Jer. 31:31.
Therefore, since this prophecy is to be fulfilled after the
destruction of the temple in A.D. 70, this is the New Covenant
which "He" will confirm for "one week." Thus we conclude this
first "He" is the Lord.
WORSHIP OF GOD FORBIDDEN
Who is the second "he" and which sacrifice will be stopped? Under
the Old Covenant God's servants offered animal sacrifices to Him.
Under the New Covenant the Lamb of God has been sacrificed, once
for all, for His Chosen People. Eph. 5:2. Now we are admonished
to offer our bodies as a living sacrifice to our God. Rom. 12:1.
That which we give to the aid of others is also a sweet sacrifice
to God, as is our prayer and songs of praise. Heb. 13:15, Rev. 8:3-4.
Who will stop the faithful from offering their lives and bodies
to God? Amos 6:8-10. Who will command us not to offer the
oblation and incense of prayer and song to the God of Abraham?
That beast who has opposed our God from the beginning, Satan.
Dan. 7:8, 8:9, 7:21, 8:24, 11:31, Rev. 13:15. The second "he" is
the ruler of Greece, Emperor of Rome reborn, conqueror of all the
world, that son of perdition, Satan.
SATAN CLAIMS TO BE GOD
Who is the third "he?" What is meant by "over-spreading of
abominations?" The Holy Spirit identifies Satan as the
Abomination. Isa. 10:20-27, 14:19, Nahum 1:9-14 and Rev.
13:14-15. Yeshua and Paul both mention this Abomination. Dan.
11:31, 12:11, Mat. 24:15 and 2 Thes. 2:4. "When ye therefore
shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by the prophet
Daniel, stand in the Holy Place..." And: "So that he, as God,
siteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
Under the old Covenant the Holy Place was in the Temple. Now,
under the New Covenant, the Holy Place is in the hearts of those
who worship Him. John 4:20-23. This third "he" is Satan, who will
demand to be worshiped as `God' and will murder those who refuse,
bringing desolation upon this world until its end.
UNDERSTANDING
This interpretation of the 27th verse is a gift of the Holy
Spirit. The Lord, after marking His chosen with His Holy Spirit,
will confirm the New Covenant with His Elect for seven years. In
the midst of those years the Son of Perdition will mark the
balance of mankind and will defeat the Saints, forbidding them to
worship the God of Abraham. The false priests will proclaim Satan
to be `God,' causing desolation until the Lord comes to destroy
him and his kingdom. Dan. 7:21, 8:11, 24 and 11:31. Rev. 7:13,
11:3, 13:14-15. 2 Thes. 2:8, Isa. 10:20-27, Eze. 28:9, 13-18.
Compare Dan. 7:28, 8:27 to Rev. 10:10 and Ecc. 1:18.
THE FINAL FRAMEWORK
Daniel begins his Eleventh Chapter with some details of the
Medo-Persian Empire. Verses 1 and 2. Then he speaks of Greece
under Alexander. Verses 3, 4. In verse 5 he describes the rise of
the Roman Empire, and in verse 6 prophesied the change in the
reckoning of the years from B.C. to A.D., (the "last time,") thus
indicating the birth of the Messiah. He then describes the early
years of Rome, and the consummation of the Nation Judah. Verses
14 to 16.
Because the placement of the Abomination of Desolation is
depicted, we conclude the 31st verse is a pictographic
description of events which must be fulfilled at the "time of the
end."
By the Word of God the event depicted in verse 31 will occur just
1290 (or 1335) days before the Lord comes. Dan. 12:9-12.
Where in this vision does Ancient Rome end, and Rome re-born
begin? To discover its beginning, simply follow the trail of
"he's" back to the start of this "he's" story. This vision,
beginning in verse 20, is a most detailed chronological account
of the last seven years of mankind's journey. We will return to
it for the conclusion of our study of End Time prophecy.
oldwetdog
http://www.xprt.net/~servitum/
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For the Lord giveth wisdom: out of His mouth cometh knowledge and
understanding. Solomon
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"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions we
should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself, you
would admit that you accept Daniel merely because you unquestionably accept
anything in the Bible. Matthew 24:15 has nothing to do with it.
If you allowed youself the option of questioning the text you would see that
your arguement from Matthew 24:15 has three basic weaknesses. Frist, the
passage only refers to the prophet Daniel, not to any work attributed to
Daniel as you claimed.
Second, the words are from the anonymous author of "Matthew", not Jesus.
This is the same anonymous author who, among other misquotes, misinterpreted
Zechariah 9:9, and placed Jesus upon two asses so he would enter Jerusalem
looking like a clown (Matt 21:1-6). None of the other gospel writers
misquotes Zechariah, or refer to Daniel.
Third, Jesus cannot be used as a verification of Daniel when it is Daniel
who is used to verify the messiahship of Jesus. You weaken both claims when
you do that.
Historical and internal evidence proves that the Book of Daniel is a
forgery. For example, in 1:21 it is stated that Daniel lived until the
first year of Cyrus, but in 10:1 Daniel has a vision in the third year of
Cyrus.
Dan 1:1, dates Nebuchadnezzar siege of Jerusalem in the third year of King
Jehoiakim. However, Scholars agree that the seize could not have been
earlier than the eleventh year of the reign of Jehoiakim (2 Kings 23:36).
And contrary to Dan 1:2, Jehoiakim died in Jerusalem. It was his son
Jehoiachim whom Nebuchadnezzar took to Babylon (II Kings 24:12.)
One of the main characters in the story is King Belshazzar. According to
verse 5:2, Belshazzar was the son of Nebuchadnezzar. But that cannot be.
The succession runs:
Nabopolassar 626-605
Nebuchadnezzar 605-562
Amel-Marduk 562-559
Neriglissar 559-555
Labishi-Marduk 556
Nabonidus 556-539
Belshazzar was the son of Nabonidus, and became co-regent with him. The
first four names on the list are Caldean kings who ruled over Babylon.
Nabonidus was a Babylonian and came to power in a palace revolt. So
Belshazzar was not even descended from Nebuchadnezzar.
Who was Darius the Mede? You may be thinking of the Darius who signed the
decree permitting the Israelites to return home, but that Darius was a
Persian, not a Mede.
According to Dan 5:29-30 Darius the Mede came to power when King Belshazzar
was killed. However, the Median empire was overthrown by the Persian King
Cyrus seventeen years before Belshazzar's dearth. It was Cyrus himself who
overthrew Babylon, with Darius the Persian coming after Cyrus.
Date of Composition:
The author's lack of information about fifth century Babylon rules out a
fifth century date of composition.
In Daniel 12:4 an Angel tells Daniel to "seal up the book" until "the end
time." The appearance of the book in the middle of the second century
indicates that some one believed that it was the end time. There is no
record of the book before then.
In chapter 2, Nebuchadnezzar has a dream which Daniel interprets. The
interpretation tells about four kingdoms which will rule the world before
they are replaced by the heavenly kingdom which will stand forever (Dan
2:37-45.)
In chapter 7 Daniel himself has a vision of four beasts, and ends with the
coming of "the son of man". An Angel interpret the beasts as being four
kingdoms which will rule until the coming of the Kingdom of God (Dan 7:27.)
In every generation Christians have reinterpreted the dreams to fit the
circumstances of their own time, proclaiming that the kingdom of God is
about to come.
The author knows about "the abomination that makes desolate" (1 Macc 1:54)
(Dan 11:31, 12:11), so we may assume that the setting up of the altar had
already taken place. But he gives conflicting times on when it will be
removed (1 Macc 41-51.) This places the date of composition between 167
and 164 b.c.e. which is the period of the Maccabean revolt.
Therefore the four kingdoms should be explained from a mid second century
b.c.e. view. In which case they can be identified as Babylon, Media,
Persia, and Greece.
Taking this date of composition we see that chapter 11:22-45 gives an
account of the reign of Antiochus Epiphanes (the "King of the North"),
including the persecutions and the revolt of Judas.
But in verses 40-45, "the end time", Antiochus invades Egypt (the "King of
the South") for a third time and dies there. Then at Dan 12:1 the angel
Michael appears and the Kingdom of God is established.
However, Antiochus did not invade Egypt for a third time, and he died in the
east. It is at verse 40 (c. 166-165 b.c.e.). that history passes into
prophecy.
--Wax
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Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions we
should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or
those who deny the book of Daniel, any comment you make is of no
interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
owd
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| User: "Weatherwax" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
18 Jun 2006 08:49:47 PM |
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"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129brmatc4jpqdd@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions we
should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or those who
deny the book of Daniel, any comment you make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums. They are not pulpits from which you can
proclaim religious dogmas as truths. When you post on a newsgroup, you
have to be ready for rebuttals and disagreements.
You chose to post an article which attacked the claim that the book of
Daniel is a forgery. I countered your attack and posted arguments showing
that from both internal and external evidence the book is a forgery.
Instead of replying, you copped out in a way that puts Christians to shame.
--Wax
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
18 Jun 2006 09:02:52 PM |
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Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129brmatc4jpqdd@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions we
should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or those who
deny the book of Daniel, any comment you make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums. They are not pulpits from which you can
proclaim religious dogmas as truths. When you post on a newsgroup, you
have to be ready for rebuttals and disagreements.
You chose to post an article which attacked the claim that the book of
Daniel is a forgery. I countered your attack and posted arguments showing
that from both internal and external evidence the book is a forgery.
Instead of replying, you copped out in a way that puts Christians to shame.
--Wax
Out of curiosity, are you able to publicly declare that Jesus Christ is
your LORD, your Savior, and your GOD?
If the answer is yes, please do so here.
Marana tha !
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
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| User: "Weatherwax" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
18 Jun 2006 11:24:34 PM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are
two questions we should consider. There are those who
say the Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel;
and, it is "pure fiction based on historic events." Was
Daniel a Prophet, will the events he described be fulfilled?
In answer to the question of his authority, Yeshua
approved of Daniel's work: thus revealing Satan to be the
father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest
with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan,
or those who deny the book of Daniel, any comment you
make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums. They are not pulpits from
which you can proclaim religious dogmas as truths. When you
post on a newsgroup, you have to be ready for rebuttals and
disagreements.
You chose to post an article which attacked the claim that the
book of Daniel is a forgery. I countered your attack and
posted arguments showing that from both internal and external
evidence the book is a forgery. Instead of replying, you
copped out in a way that puts Christians to shame.
--Wax
Out of curiosity, are you able to publicly declare that Jesus Christ is
your LORD, your Savior, and your GOD?
If the answer is yes, please do so here.
Marana tha !
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Obviously, I am not a Christian. I gave up that childish illusion years
ago.
But why should that make any difference to you if I am, or am not a
Christian? Do you only listen to people who agree with you? Do you only
pray for people who agree with you? Do you turn your back upon the majority
of people in the world because they are not Christians?
--Wax
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
19 Jun 2006 12:16:44 AM |
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Weatherwax wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are
two questions we should consider. There are those who
say the Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel;
and, it is "pure fiction based on historic events." Was
Daniel a Prophet, will the events he described be fulfilled?
In answer to the question of his authority, Yeshua
approved of Daniel's work: thus revealing Satan to be the
father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest
with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan,
or those who deny the book of Daniel, any comment you
make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums. They are not pulpits from
which you can proclaim religious dogmas as truths. When you
post on a newsgroup, you have to be ready for rebuttals and
disagreements.
You chose to post an article which attacked the claim that the
book of Daniel is a forgery. I countered your attack and
posted arguments showing that from both internal and external
evidence the book is a forgery. Instead of replying, you
copped out in a way that puts Christians to shame.
--Wax
Out of curiosity, are you able to publicly declare that Jesus Christ is
your LORD, your Savior, and your GOD?
If the answer is yes, please do so here.
Marana tha !
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Obviously, I am not a Christian.
Does not surprise me.
I gave up that childish illusion years ago.
Belief is not illusion.
Bottomline: You have never been with the truth.
But why should that make any difference to you if I am, or am not a
Christian?
The truth.
Do you only listen to people who agree with you?
This is not about me but about the truth.
Do you only pray for people who agree with you?
No.
Do you turn your back upon the majority of people in the world because they are not Christians?
No.
However, without the LORD your entire life will be meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).
Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
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| User: "Weatherwax" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
19 Jun 2006 01:33:02 AM |
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1150694204.492097.73780@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote
< CLIP >
Out of curiosity, are you able to publicly declare that Jesus
Christ is your LORD, your Savior, and your GOD?
If the answer is yes, please do so here.
Marana tha !
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Obviously, I am not a Christian.
Does not surprise me.
I gave up that childish illusion years ago.
Belief is not illusion.
Belief is not the same as knowledge.
Bottomline: You have never been with the truth.
But why should that make any difference to you if I am, or
am not a Christian?
The truth.
Do you only listen to people who agree with you?
This is not about me but about the truth.
In a way, I envy you. You are in full possession of "the truth." On the
other hand, I am still learning, and the more I learn, the more I am aware
of how little I know.
It takes a person with either a limited education, or an inflated ego, to
reach your level of knowledge.
Do you only pray for people who agree with you?
No.
Do you turn your back upon the majority of people in the world
because they are not Christians?
No.
You are deceiving yourself with those answers. You're claim to the truth
blocks your understanding of others, in effect, you are turning your back to
those of other beliefs.
However, without the LORD your entire life will be meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).
I don't consider my life to be meaningless at all.
Although I retired from working for the Los Angeles County Public Health
Laboratories several years ago, I still fill my time by teaching mathematics
part time at a junior college in Los Angeles.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
And in return, I will sacrifice a virgin for your salvation? I hope that
you appreciate the gesture.
--Wax
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
19 Jun 2006 04:42:49 PM |
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Weatherwax wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1150694204.492097.73780@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote
< CLIP >
Out of curiosity, are you able to publicly declare that Jesus
Christ is your LORD, your Savior, and your GOD?
If the answer is yes, please do so here.
Marana tha !
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Obviously, I am not a Christian.
Does not surprise me.
I gave up that childish illusion years ago.
Belief is not illusion.
Belief is not the same as knowledge.
Bottomline: You have never been with the truth.
But why should that make any difference to you if I am, or
am not a Christian?
The truth.
Do you only listen to people who agree with you?
This is not about me but about the truth.
In a way, I envy you. You are in full possession of "the truth." On the
other hand, I am still learning, and the more I learn, the more I am aware
of how little I know.
It takes a person with either a limited education, or an inflated ego, to
reach your level of knowledge.
Do you only pray for people who agree with you?
No.
Do you turn your back upon the majority of people in the world
because they are not Christians?
No.
You are deceiving yourself with those answers. You're claim to the truth
blocks your understanding of others, in effect, you are turning your back to
those of other beliefs.
However, without the LORD your entire life will be meaningless
(Ecclesiastes).
I don't consider my life to be meaningless at all.
Although I retired from working for the Los Angeles County Public Health
Laboratories several years ago, I still fill my time by teaching mathematics
part time at a junior college in Los Angeles.
Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
And in return, I will sacrifice a virgin for your salvation? I hope that
you appreciate the gesture.
--Wax
It's a zombie. It can't be reasoned with.
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
19 Jun 2006 11:52:05 AM |
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Weatherwax wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are
two questions we should consider. There are those who
say the Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel;
and, it is "pure fiction based on historic events." Was
Daniel a Prophet, will the events he described be fulfilled?
In answer to the question of his authority, Yeshua
approved of Daniel's work: thus revealing Satan to be the
father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest
with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan,
or those who deny the book of Daniel, any comment you
make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums. They are not pulpits from
which you can proclaim religious dogmas as truths. When you
post on a newsgroup, you have to be ready for rebuttals and
disagreements.
You chose to post an article which attacked the claim that the
book of Daniel is a forgery. I countered your attack and
posted arguments showing that from both internal and external
evidence the book is a forgery. Instead of replying, you
copped out in a way that puts Christians to shame.
--Wax
Out of curiosity, are you able to publicly declare that Jesus Christ is
your LORD, your Savior, and your GOD?
If the answer is yes, please do so here.
Marana tha !
You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Obviously, I am not a Christian. I gave up that childish illusion years
ago.
But why should that make any difference to you if I am, or am not a
Christian? Do you only listen to people who agree with you? Do you only
pray for people who agree with you?
No, the nasty, repugnant, in-your-face trolling fuckwit prays
especially for those he knows won't like it. He cross-posts his zombie
moanings to alt.atheism for precisely this reason.
Do you turn your back upon the majority
of people in the world because they are not Christians?
He turns his back on everybody because he can't cope with human beings.
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| User: "St Dog the Wet" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
18 Jun 2006 09:15:06 PM |
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Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129brmatc4jpqdd@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions we
should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or those who
deny the book of Daniel, any comment you make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums.
They certainly are...
*plonk*
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| User: "Weatherwax" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
18 Jun 2006 11:31:02 PM |
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"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129c25beim12rbb@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129brmatc4jpqdd@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions
we should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or those who
deny the book of Daniel, any comment you make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums.
They certainly are...
*plonk*
You are a hypocrite. You already stated that you have wasted too much time
on me. Now you respond again. You feel that you have lost if you don't
get the last word in, but you do not want to intelligently discuss the
issues.
You now have a choice: Either give in and let me have the last word, or
prove that I am right and respond again. I bet that you respond. You just
have to.
--Wax
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| User: "www.pulpitfire.org" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
18 Jun 2006 11:42:12 PM |
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Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129c25beim12rbb@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129brmatc4jpqdd@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions
we should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or those who
deny the book of Daniel, any comment you make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums.
They certainly are...
*plonk*
You are a hypocrite. You already stated that you have wasted too much time
on me. Now you respond again. You feel that you have lost if you don't
get the last word in, but you do not want to intelligently discuss the
issues.
You now have a choice: Either give in and let me have the last word, or
prove that I am right and respond again. I bet that you respond. You just
have to.
--Wax
You know, you have simultaneously come to the same conclusion I have.
The good thing, however, about the fact his position has now been
reduced to deaf, repetative spamming, and having to have the last word
with everyone, is that this is just the kind of thing, in the long run,
that will start getting him put in people's kill-files. The reward for
his diligent efforts may actually end up being that fewer and fewer,
instead of more people will hear what he is saying.
--
=============================================
There is a Millennium. Six times, Revelation 20 refers to a
thousand year period in which Satan will be bound, and the
saints will reign with Christ. Revelation 19 shows Christ
coming to earth and says He will rule the nations with a rod
of iron. Nowhere does it say he leaves. The saints are
resurrected (on earth, because dead bodies are not stored
in heaven), and reign from earth, in a camp where, at the
end of "a thousand years", the "nations of the four quarters
of the earth" will surround it. www.pulpitfire.org
=============================================
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Weatherwax" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
19 Jun 2006 01:42:27 AM |
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"www.pulpitfire.org" <pulpitfire@gmail.com> wrote
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129c25beim12rbb@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in
< CLIP >
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or those
who deny the book of Daniel, any
comment you make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums.
They certainly are...
*plonk*
You are a hypocrite. You already stated that you have
wasted too much time on me. Now you respond again. You feel that you
have lost if you don't get the last word in,
but you do not want to intelligently discuss the issues.
You now have a choice: Either give in and let me have the
last word, or prove that I am right and respond again. I bet
that you respond. You just have to.
--Wax
You know, you have simultaneously come to the same conclusion I have. The
good thing, however, about the fact his
position has now been reduced to deaf, repetative spamming, and having to
have the last word with everyone, is that this is
just the kind of thing, in the long run, that will start getting him
put in people's kill-files. The reward for his diligent efforts may
actually end up being that fewer and fewer, instead of more people will
hear what he is saying.
But I want the wet dog to post. The more he post, the dumber he looks.
--Wax
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE |
19 Jun 2006 12:16:36 AM |
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www.pulpitfire.org wrote:
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129c25beim12rbb@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:129brmatc4jpqdd@corp.supernews.com...
Weatherwax wrote:
"St Dog the Wet" <g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote
DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two questions
we should consider. There are those who say the
Prophet Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is
"pure fiction based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet,
will the events he described be fulfilled? In answer to the
question of his authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work:
thus revealing Satan to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
You are the one propagating a lie. If you were honest with yourself,
Since it immediately becomes obvious that you defend Satan, or those who
deny the book of Daniel, any comment you make is
of no interest to me...
you have wasted you time,
and now I have wasted too much on you.
No time is wasted.
These newsgroups are open forums.
They certainly are...
*plonk*
You are a hypocrite. You already stated that you have wasted too much time
on me. Now you respond again. You feel that you have lost if you don't
get the last word in, but you do not want to intelligently discuss the
issues.
You now have a choice: Either give in and let me have the last word, or
prove that I am right and respond again. I bet that you respond. You just
have to.
--Wax
You know, you have simultaneously come to the same conclusion I have.
The good thing, however, about the fact his position has now been
reduced to deaf, repetative spamming, and having to have the last word
with everyone, is that this is just the kind of thing, in the long run,
that will start getting him put in people's kill-files. The reward for
his diligent efforts may actually end up being that fewer and fewer,
instead of more people will hear what he is saying.
Out of curiousity, are you able to publicly declare that Jesus Christ
is your LORD, your Savior, and your GOD?
If your answer is yes, please do so here.
Marana tha !
Still praying for you, dear neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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18 Jun 2006 04:36:59 PM |
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DANIEL
In Daniel 3, King Nebuchadnezzar set up an image in the Valley of Dura, which stood
ninety feet high and nine feet wide. It was an image of gold and everyone had to worship
the image. When the music sounded everyone fell down to worship the image of gold.
Everyone did except for Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-Nego. These three Jewish friends
were brought before the king and they told him they refused to bow down before the image
of gold. For this, they were thrown into the fiery furnace yet they weren't harmed because
of the fourth person in the fire, the Lord Jesus Christ. The three Jewish friends represented
the faithful Jewish remnant when the image of the beast is set up. The question is -
Where is Daniel? He was probably attending some political governmental business throughout
the empire so he was away from the plains of Dura when they set up the image. He couldn't
have been accused because of this. He was obviously traveling when the king ordered to
have the image set up. Daniel served as a type of the Rapture when the God will remove
his Church from the scene of the earth before the Tribulation and mid-way through the
Tribulation, an image of the Antichrist will be set up and the faithful Jewish remnant will be
protected from the Antichrist. The Church like Daniel will already be far removed from
the scene of the Tribulation as the Antichrist sets up an image and commands all to worship
him and wear his mark.
INTERVAL BETWEEN EVENTS
There is a contrast between the Rapture and the Glorious Appearing. Many people can not
see why there is a seven year interval between the Rapture and the Glorious Appearing.
However, many Jews saw only one coming of the Messiah despite the fact that there were
two portraits painted in the Old Testament of the Messiah. This time in the New Testament,
there are two portraits of events painted about the Second Coming. The differences between
these two events are identifiable and thus suggest that there are two phases in
the Second Coming - Rapture and Glorious Appearing.
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DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two
questions we should consider. There are those who say the Prophet
Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is "pure fiction
based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet, will the events
he described be fulfilled? In answer to the question of his
authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work: thus revealing Satan
to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
BRIEF REVIEW
In the MAJOR PROPHETS and MINOR PROPHETS we have found many
prophecies of the end of this world and the coming of the Lord.
We found within them recognizable signs (key words) which helped
us put similar prophecies into groups. But, though we are able to
sort them into a rough chronological order, we found no sequence
given by the Major or Minor Prophets.
Although there is subtle hint of the Two Advents of the Lord
within prophecies given by the Major and Minor prophets, we are
not told how these events fit into the chronological progression
of human affairs.
In Daniel we find a vision of the sequence of End Time Events
given (significantly) to a pagan king.
VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
Two important facts which we must keep in mind is, first, Daniel
received communications in visual form. He transcribed the
visions into words to record for us. The words are metaphors. He
used words (like a painter uses pigments) to paint a word picture
and pass the visual communication on to us. Second, although the
visions and the words Daniel used to record the visions are
metaphorical, they do contain a literal message: the meaning
designated by God, their Composer. It is His interpretation for
which we seek. 2 Peter 1:20-21.
UNDERSTANDING IS FROM GOD
God gave the vision of the sequence of world ruling empires,
recorded in Daniel's Second Chapter, to the King of Babylon. But
his "wise" men could not figure out its meaning. God gave the
understanding of the vision to Daniel. An understanding of God's
messages is a gift from God. This is an important lesson for us.
Dan. 2:19-21, 12:9-10, Pro. 9:10, Ecc. 2:26. Luke 24:45, James 1:5.
THE SEQUENCE OF NATIONS
This visual communication gives the sequence and description of
the empires which will rule the world from then until That Day.
The first was Babylon. This Empire ruled all the known civilized
world, and destroyed the Nation Judah and the Beloved City by the
will of God. 606-586 B.C. Isa. 39:6-7, Jer. 39:1-2, 2 Kings 25:1.
Second was the Medo-Persian Empire. The Empire of silver defeated
Babylon in 538 B.C. Dan. 5:30-31. It is important to note, the
Medo-Persian army failed to destroy Babylon.
Greece was the third Empire. Alexander the Great defeated the
Medes and Persians in 331 B.C., without (this fact is very
important) destroying either Babylon or Jerusalem.
The first part of the fourth Empire was Rome, the legs of iron.
Dan. 2:33, 40. Rome conquered Babylon (Syria under the Seleucids)
in 54 B.C., and again in 114-117 A.D., without destroying it. For
the most part Babylon remained a Roman "border territory." In 63
B.C. Rome acquired Palestine, without destroying Jerusalem, and
ruled the known world until 476 A.D. (ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITANNICA
MACROPAEDIA, Vol. 11. p. 989-90, Vol. 17, p. 947-51.)
It was during the reign of these kings that our Lord set up His
Kingdom. Dan. 2:44, Acts 2:37-47. But the Kingdom (Heaven) is not
yet given to the Chosen People. Dan. 7:27.
This vision depicts the second half of the fourth empire as being
"iron mixed with miry clay." This empire (Rome re-born) will
conquer the world in the lifetime of this generation. This is
revealed by the fact that this empire and its ruler will be
destroyed at the second coming of the Messiah. Dan. 2:43-45,
7:26, Rev. 14:17-20, 19:11-21, 20:7-10.
A MISTAKE
It is also revealed, by this fact, that those who teach this
second half of the Roman empire is the Holy Roman Catholic Church
are in error. For, while the Catholic Church does exist today, it
is not now a temporal/secular world ruling empire. Also, it was
brought down by the hand of man, not the personal appearance of
the Lord. Dan. 2:40-43, 8:25.
ROME RISING
The many parts of the fourth empire, which will conquer the world
in our lifetime, are now visible as the NATO-Common Market
Alliance Nations. Daniel's Seventh Chapter describes this empire
in more detail.
Daniel 7:1-2. "I saw visions by night, and, behold, four winds
strove upon the great sea..." The "sea" is peoples and the
"winds" are spirits. Rev. 7:1-2, 13:1, 17:15. The winds "whip up"
the seas in order to bring about a desired result. For example,
the spirits arrange a national leader desired by Satan, and he,
by controlling this man, controls that nation. Historical
examples include the Pharaoh of Egypt and the King of Babylon.
More modern examples are Hitler and Saddam Hussein.
THE END TIME BEASTS
In studying this Seventh Chapter it will become apparent it is
divided into several major parts. First is the description of the
four beasts. Note, the first three are not described as World
ruling Empires as were Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
Verses 2 to 8. The next section, verses 9-11, describes the
fourth empire to rule this world and its rise to power, as well
as its destruction at the end of this world.
Verse 12 is a very significant statement, to which we will
return. Verses 17 to 25 are an explanation, giving more detail,
of the four beasts recorded in verses 2-8. Verses 13 and 14, and
22, 26, 27 are a repeat, with more detail, of verses 9 to 11. It
is important to note these descriptions of the "giving of the
Kingdom to the people" do not use the term "set up" or
"establish," because this was accomplished in A.D. 30. Acts
2:37-47, Col. 1:13. Dan. 2:44, Luke 9:27.
FIND THE CLUES
Before discussing the identities of these beasts, we need to look
for an internal key word by which we can connect this vision to
other communications, and events on earth; and a sign of the
times by which we can recognize the earth time in which these
events occur. Clearly the fourth beast (Satan and his empire)
will be destroyed at the second coming of the Messiah. Verses
9-11, 13-14, 22, 26-27. 2 Thes. 2:8, Rev. 20:10. Therefore the
events depicted in this vision will be fulfilled in the lifetime
of the generation who witnessed the return of Israel to
Jerusalem. Luke 21:24, Mat. 24:32-34.
END TIME ROME
This beast (nation) is Rome re-born; the second half of the
fourth kingdom, the part of iron mixed with miry clay. Compare
7:23, 26-27 to 2:44-45. The last half of the fourth kingdom in
the Second Chapter will rule the world until the Lord comes. The
fourth beast in the Seventh Chapter will rule the world until the
Lord comes. Both will be destroyed by the Lord when He comes.
Thus, they are the same beast. Even now the NATO-European Common
Market Alliance is being rewritten. (TIME, March 5, '84, p. 20.
ATLANTIC, April '84, p. 43.) Which State will rule the United
States of Europe? Greece. Dan. 8:21, Joel 3:6, Zec. 9:13. See pp.
175, 181.
THE BEASTS IDENTIFIED
Who are the first three beasts? (7:4, 5, 6.) It is suggested by
verses 2 and 3 that all four beasts "came up" at the same time;
that they co-exist with the Beasts Kingdom. Can this be correct?
THE UNITED STATES
Verse 4. "The first was like a lion..." In Prophetic descriptions
of nations, when a nation is faithful and fulfills God's purpose,
it is depicted as a regal beast. However, when a nation is
unfaithful she is described as a *****. Hosea 1:2, Rev. 17:1.
Thus, one nation may be described by different icons or ideograms
at different times in its existence. The term "man" means
"human." Gen. 1:27.
Daniel watched this beast for some time, until its "wings" (speed
of conquest) were taken away and it was made to stand up like a
"man." Thus, a beast standing like a human; a nation acting like
a person--as this country did under President Carter. What does
the human heart mean? Secular Humanism, the Anthropic principle,
"man as god," the center of all he surveys. "Ye shall be as
gods..." Gen. 3:5.
From about 1600 until 1800 this nation was a haven for those who
fled religious persecution in Europe so they could worship God
according to their Spirit led interpretation of His Word. But
this nation, since the late 1800's, has gone a-whoring after the
false gods of materialism and nuclear/electromagnetic energy; and
has led other nations down the path to nuclear destruction. The
Lion was the United States of America -- now she is Babylon.
RUSSIA
The bear is Gog and Ma-gog, the "land of the north," known today
as Russia. In what year was Russia conquered by the delusion of
God-less Communism? Dan. 7:5, Rev. 2:7. See pp. 175, 181.
Who are the three ribs between its teeth? Look at a globe of the
world. Which three nations look like spare-ribs dangling in front
of the bear? Finland, Sweden and Norway. (READERS DIGEST, April
'84, p. 94.)
CHINA
The Leopard is China, and her cohorts, the Kings of the East.
Dan. 7:6, 11:44, Rev. 9:14, 16:12. Expect war in the east as
China consolidates her empire.
THESE NATIONS CO-EXIST
All these nations can be seen in the beast of Revelation 13:1
(after three of the horns are pulled up). Daniel reveals the
first three beasts, whose lives the fourth beast spares, must
exist at the same time. Dan. 7:12 explains. "Yet their lives were
spared..." The Ram (Medo-Persia) did not spare the government of
Babylon. Nor did the Goat (Alexander) spare the government of
Medo-Persia. Yet these three beasts (America, Russia and China)
will submit to the Beast's (the European Empire under Satan) rule
and he (Satan) will let them "co-exist in peace." Then the people
of this world will exclaim, "Now we have world peace!" It is
written, "By peace he shall destroy many." Dan. 8:25. Rev. 13:1,
17:13-14.
A MORE DETAILED SEQUENCE
The vision in Chapter 8 is also in several sections. The Ram is
Medo-Persia, the silver kingdom in 2:32 which conquered Babylon.
The rough goat is Greece, the brass part in 2:39. 8:5-8, 21. The
first horn is Alexander, the four horns are the Kingdoms which
survived his death.
Verse 9: "And out of one of them came a little horn, which waxed
exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and
toward the pleasant land." As is clear from these visions, the
"little horn" is a man (King or President) who rules a nation.
The questions we need to answer now are: Which nation is this?
Who is the man who will rule? And, what is meant by "Out of one
of them?"
THE PARTS OF THE VISION
From verse 9 to 12 is a description of this "little horn."
Verses 13 and 14 are a conversation between Daniel and the
angels. From verse 15 through 18 we are given details of Daniel's
request for more understanding of the meaning of the vision.
Verse 20 is the identity of the Ram, and verse 21 gives the
identity of the rough goat. Verse 22 shows Alexander's death and
the division of the empire among his four Generals. Rome is not
named. Verses 23, 24 and 25 are another description of the
"little horn" of verse 9, as "he stands against the Prince of
princes" shows. Verse 26 is a very significant statement, to
which we will return.
END TIME GREECE
This prophecy is not about Rome because Greece is named, and,
Rome was broken by many hands. (vv. 21, 22, 25.) This prophecy is
not about Alexander either: since verse 11 states "His sanctuary
was cast down..." And, verse 14 states, "unto 2,300 days; then
shall the sanctuary be cleansed." If this was prophecy about
Alexander then he was to destroy the City and defile the Temple
of God -- but he did not.
Therefore, either this prophecy is about Alexander and the Word
of God has been broken; or this prophecy is not about Greece
under Alexander. This prophecy is about modern Greece, and reborn
Rome, as led by Satan.
IDENTIFY THE CLUES
Look for key words which reveal the time of this prophecy's
fulfillment. Verses 17 and 19. "For at the time of the end shall
be the vision." See verses 14, 23, 26 and Habakkuk 2:3. This
vision clearly contains pictographic descriptions of events which
will be fulfilled at The End of time.
PERIODS OF TIME GIVEN
Verse 26: Many of God's statements of amounts of time are given
in the form "a day for a year." However, He said He created the
Universe in seven days, and each day contained an evening and a
morning. The angels told Daniel, "the vision of the evening and
morning are true." Thus the 2300 evenings and mornings are
literal days, not "a day for a year." And so it is with the 1,290
and 1,335 days. These are about three and a half years; while
2300 days is 255 days short of seven years. Verses 14, 26, Gen.
1:5. Dan. 12:9-10. We will study all the prophecies of time
periods in "PROPHETIC TIME PERIODS."
THE KINGDOMS IDENTIFIED
This King and his kingdom will be seen by the descendants of
Abraham (by blood or adoption) who have witnessed the re-birth of
Israel. Rome re-born will make war on Israel re-born. Russia,
China, Africa and Babylon (the United States of America) will
submit to Satan's rule. Dan. 8:9, 24, 11:22.
The little horn in 8:9 is the same as in 7:7 -- Satan. This King
will understand magic ("craft" and "dark sentences," 8:23, 25) as
did the sorcerers of ancient Egypt and Babylon. Exo. 7:11, Dan.
2:10. 8:25, see 2:45 and 11:45.
OUT OF ONE OF THESE
"Out of one of these" (v. 9) may mean one of two things: A nation
descendant of one of the four Nations which ruled after the
breakup of Alexander's Greece. Or, a descendant of one of the
four men who ruled after Alexander. By the first definition we
are told one of four nations would conquer the world. This omits
Spain as future ruler of Europe. By the second we would be
informed that one of the four leader's progeny survived to
produce a world conqueror. This omits Jaun Carlos as the
"seventh," and last, king of Europe. Rev. 17:9-12.
HUMAN HISTORY OMITTED
We have come to Daniel 9:24 to 27, some of the most difficult
prophecy in the Word of God. We need to re-examine prophecy
concerning two events before proceeding : The establishment of
the Kingdom of God, and the day of Judgment.
Specifically, when will (or did) these events occur? Compare the
following three sets of Scripture carefully and prayerfully.
First: Isa. 2:2-4, 42:1-12, 13-15 and Jer. 23:5. Second: Dan.
2:44, Luke 9:27. 1 John 1:1-8, Col. 1:1-13, John 4:23, 1 Cor.
15:50. Third: Dan 12:2, Micah 4:1-3, Rev. 11:15-19 and 16:17-21.
According to the Master's own Word, the Kingdom was to be
established before the generation who witnessed His life and
death all died. Luke 9:27, Dan 2:44. Therefore "in the days of
these Kings" (the first half of the Roman empire) the Kingdom of
God was "set up." In other words, His people were chosen. Acts
2:37-47, Mat. 1:21, Rev. 12:10. Next, according to the Word of
God as recorded by John, Daniel and Micah, the day of Judgment is
also the day of The End of this world: THAT DAY, The Day of God,
the day of the Seventh Trumpet. "The day... the dead... should be
judged." 2 Peter 3:7, 10-12.
Therefore it seems Isaiah, Jeremiah and Daniel have glossed over,
or otherwise omitted, almost two thousand years of human history:
since they write as if the establishment of the Kingdom and
Judgment Day will occur at the same time. So we have discovered
an almost 2,000 year "gap" concealed within Isaiah 2:2-4,
42:1-12, 13-15 and Jeremiah 23:5.
This missing history is detectable in Daniel's writings. The
first place is between the "legs of iron" in 2:40 and the "feet
and toes of iron mixed with miry clay" in verse 41.
The next place is in Chapter 8 at verses 8 and 9. Verse 8
describes Alexander's death and division of the empire. Verse 9
depicts the "little horn" who will rule the world for almost
seven years (2300 days) at The End of Time. 7:8, 23-26, 8:23-25.
The next place this omission can be seen is in Chapter 9, verse
24. The Messiah died "to make an end of sins, and to make
reconciliation for iniquity." But "everlasting righteousness" is
not yet "brought in."
The next omission is between verses 26 and 27. The City and
Temple were destroyed by Titus in A.D. 70. Yet verse 27 depicts
the last seven years of man's physical existence. But there is no
mention of the history of man from A.D. 70 until the rise (and
final destruction) of Rome-reborn. Dan. 7:27 and 1 Cor. 15:50.
NEW COVENANT DEFINITIONS
Before continuing, we need to take note of an important fact.
That is, when interpreting prophecy we must interpret prophecy
which was to be fulfilled under the Old Covenant by Old Covenant
definitions. But when interpreting prophecy which is to be
fulfilled under the New Covenant, we must use New Covenant
definitions.
Example: Under the Old Covenant "My People" meant the twelve
tribes of Israel. Under the New Covenant this same term must mean
His Church. "For He shall save His people from their sins." Mat.
1:21, Acts 2:37-40. Under the Old Covenant "Twelve Tribes"
designated the blood (and adopted) descendants of Jacob. Now,
under the New Covenant, that term means the People He purchased
with His own blood. Mat. 1:21, James 1:1.
GOD GIVES UNDERSTANDING
Daniel 9:27. "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one
week; and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice
to cease, and for the over-spreading of abominations he shall
make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that
determined shall be poured out upon the desolate." This is known
as "Daniel's 70th week."
FIND THE CLUES
First, consider the recognizable key words. The term "he" is used
three times. `They' accomplish three things: Confirm the
Covenant, stop the worship, and cause desolation until the end.
THE NEW COVENANT CONFIRMED
Who is the first "he" and which "covenant" will be confirmed? The
Old Covenant was broken by God. Zec. 11:10. The Messiah made a
New Covenant with His people Israel. Mat. 1:21, Jer. 31:31.
Therefore, since this prophecy is to be fulfilled after the
destruction of the temple in A.D. 70, this is the New Covenant
which "He" will confirm for "one week." Thus we conclude this
first "He" is the Lord.
WORSHIP OF GOD FORBIDDEN
Who is the second "he" and which sacrifice will be stopped? Under
the Old Covenant God's servants offered animal sacrifices to Him.
Under the New Covenant the Lamb of God has been sacrificed, once
for all, for His Chosen People. Eph. 5:2. Now we are admonished
to offer our bodies as a living sacrifice to our God. Rom. 12:1.
That which we give to the aid of others is also a sweet sacrifice
to God, as is our prayer and songs of praise. Heb. 13:15, Rev. 8:3-4.
Who will stop the faithful from offering their lives and bodies
to God? Amos 6:8-10. Who will command us not to offer the
oblation and incense of prayer and song to the God of Abraham?
That beast who has opposed our God from the beginning, Satan.
Dan. 7:8, 8:9, 7:21, 8:24, 11:31, Rev. 13:15. The second "he" is
the ruler of Greece, Emperor of Rome reborn, conqueror of all the
world, that son of perdition, Satan.
SATAN CLAIMS TO BE GOD
Who is the third "he?" What is meant by "over-spreading of
abominations?" The Holy Spirit identifies Satan as the
Abomination. Isa. 10:20-27, 14:19, Nahum 1:9-14 and Rev.
13:14-15. Yeshua and Paul both mention this Abomination. Dan.
11:31, 12:11, Mat. 24:15 and 2 Thes. 2:4. "When ye therefore
shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by the prophet
Daniel, stand in the Holy Place..." And: "So that he, as God,
siteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God."
Under the old Covenant the Holy Place was in the Temple. Now,
under the New Covenant, the Holy Place is in the hearts of those
who worship Him. John 4:20-23. This third "he" is Satan, who will
demand to be worshiped as `God' and will murder those who refuse,
bringing desolation upon this world until its end.
UNDERSTANDING
This interpretation of the 27th verse is a gift of the Holy
Spirit. The Lord, after marking His chosen with His Holy Spirit,
will confirm the New Covenant with His Elect for seven years. In
the midst of those years the Son of Perdition will mark the
balance of mankind and will defeat the Saints, forbidding them to
worship the God of Abraham. The false priests will proclaim Satan
to be `God,' causing desolation until the Lord comes to destroy
him and his kingdom. Dan. 7:21, 8:11, 24 and 11:31. Rev. 7:13,
11:3, 13:14-15. 2 Thes. 2:8, Isa. 10:20-27, Eze. 28:9, 13-18.
Compare Dan. 7:28, 8:27 to Rev. 10:10 and Ecc. 1:18.
THE FINAL FRAMEWORK
Daniel begins his Eleventh Chapter with some details of the
Medo-Persian Empire. Verses 1 and 2. Then he speaks of Greece
under Alexander. Verses 3, 4. In verse 5 he describes the rise of
the Roman Empire, and in verse 6 prophesied the change in the
reckoning of the years from B.C. to A.D., (the "last time,") thus
indicating the birth of the Messiah. He then describes the early
years of Rome, and the consummation of the Nation Judah. Verses
14 to 16.
Because the placement of the Abomination of Desolation is
depicted, we conclude the 31st verse is a pictographic
description of events which must be fulfilled at the "time of the
end."
By the Word of God the event depicted in verse 31 will occur just
1290 (or 1335) days before the Lord comes. Dan. 12:9-12.
Where in this vision does Ancient Rome end, and Rome re-born
begin? To discover its beginning, simply follow the trail of
"he's" back to the start of this "he's" story. This vision,
beginning in verse 20, is a most detailed chronological account
of the last seven years of mankind's journey. We will return to
it for the conclusion of our study of End Time prophecy.
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Daniel Commentary Bible Study
in MediaPlayer (WMV Video)
by Dr. Chuck Missler
The Book of Daniel contains the most amazing prophecies of the Bible,
and is one of the most authenticated books of the Old Testament.
The numerous detailed prophecies of the period of Gentile dominion make
this one of the most important foundational studies for anyone who takes
the Bible seriously.
MediaPlayer (WMV Video) Series [96 kbps]
http://bibleweb.info/=DRIVE=bibleweb-drive/_-_/=CD-R=daniel-wmv/index.html
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DANIEL GIVES THE SEQUENCE
DANIEL'S AUTHORITY
Before we begin a study of the Book of Daniel there are two
questions we should consider. There are those who say the Prophet
Daniel did not write the Book of Daniel; and, it is "pure fiction
based on historic events." Was Daniel a Prophet, will the events
he described be fulfilled? In answer to the question of his
authority, Yeshua approved of Daniel's work: thus revealing Satan
to be the father of these lies. Mat. 24:15.
BRIEF REVIEW
In the MAJOR PROPHETS and MINOR PROPHETS we have found many
prophecies of the end of this world and the coming of the Lord.
We found within them recognizable signs (key words) which helped
us put similar prophecies into groups. But, though we are able to
sort them into a rough chronological order, we found no sequence
given by the Major or Minor Prophets.
Although there is subtle hint of the Two Advents of the Lord
within prophecies given by the Major and Minor prophets, we are
not told how these events fit into the chronological progression
of human affairs.
In Daniel we find a vision of the sequence of End Time Events
given (significantly) to a pagan king.
VISUAL COMMUNICATIONS
Two important facts which we must keep in mind is, first, Daniel
received communications in visual form. He transcribed the
visions into words to record for us. The words are metaphors. He
used words (like a painter uses pigments) to paint a word picture
and pass the visual communication on to us. Second, although the
visions and the words Daniel used to record the visions are
metaphorical, they do contain a literal message: the meaning
designated by God, their Composer. It is His interpretation for
which we seek. 2 Peter 1:20-21.
UNDERSTANDING IS FROM GOD
God gave the vision of the sequence of world ruling empires,
recorded in Daniel's Second Chapter, to the King of Babylon. But
his "wise" men could not figure out its meaning. God gave the
understanding of the vision to Daniel. An understanding of God's
messages is a gift from God. This is an important lesson for us.
Dan. 2:19-21, 12:9-10, Pro. 9:10, Ecc. 2:26. Luke 24:45, James 1:5.
THE SEQUENCE OF NATIONS
This visual communication gives the sequence and description of
the empires which will rule the world from then until That Day.
The first was Babylon. This Empire ruled all the known civilized
world, and destroyed the Nation Judah and the Beloved City by the
will of God. 606-586 B.C. Isa. 39:6-7, Jer. 39:1-2, 2 Kings 25:1.
Second was the Medo-Persian Empire. The Empire of silver defeated
Babylon in 538 B.C. Dan. 5:30-31. It is important to note, the
Medo-Persian army failed to destroy Babylon.
Greece was the third Empire. Alexander the Great defeated the
Medes and Persians in 331 B.C., without (this fact is very
important) destroying either Babylon or Jerusalem.
The first part of the fourth Empire was Rome, the legs of iron.
Dan. 2:33, 40. Rome conquered Babylon (Syria under the Seleucids)
in 54 B.C., and again in 114-117 A.D., without destroying it. For
the most part Babylon remained a Roman "border territory." In 63
B.C. Rome acquired Palestine, without destroying Jerusalem, and
ruled the known world until 476 A.D. (ENCYCLOPAEDIA BRITANNICA
MACROPAEDIA, Vol. 11. p. 989-90, Vol. 17, p. 947-51.)
It was during the reign of these kings that our Lord set up His
Kingdom. Dan. 2:44, Acts 2:37-47. But the Kingdom (Heaven) is not
yet given to the Chosen People. Dan. 7:27.
This vision depicts the second half of the fourth empire as being
"iron mixed with miry clay." This empire (Rome re-born) will
conquer the world in the lifetime of this generation. This is
revealed by the fact that this empire and its ruler will be
destroyed at the second coming of the Messiah. Dan. 2:43-45,
7:26, Rev. 14:17-20, 19:11-21, 20:7-10.
A MISTAKE
It is also revealed, by this fact, that those who teach this
second half of the Roman empire is the Holy Roman Catholic Church
are in error. For, while the Catholic Church does exist today, it
is not now a temporal/secular world ruling empire. Also, it was
brought down by the hand of man, not the personal appearance of
the Lord. Dan. 2:40-43, 8:25.
ROME RISING
The many parts of the fourth empire, which will conquer the world
in our lifetime, are now visible as the NATO-Common Market
Alliance Nations. Daniel's Seventh Chapter describes this empire
in more detail.
Daniel 7:1-2. "I saw visions by night, and, behold, four winds
strove upon the great sea..." The "sea" is peoples and the
"winds" are spirits. Rev. 7:1-2, 13:1, 17:15. The winds "whip up"
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