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"skddlbyp" |
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09 Jun 2007 03:33:29 PM |
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Dating the Crucifixion? |
I have been reading in some books that mention that the moon is hidden
three days in each month, maybe at the end of the month? I don't know if
this is true or not, but it could dovetail neatly into the three night
period from the Last Supper through Sunday morning. Perhaps the arrest party
came under cover of a moonless night.
Anyway, the vague idea here is: was there was a jewish passover year that
coincided with a 3 day moonless period?
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Dating the Crucifixion? |
09 Jun 2007 04:36:52 PM |
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:33:29 -0500, "skddlbyp" <ghmvdj@fnp.aiu>
spoke thusly:
I have been reading in some books that mention that the moon is hidden
three days in each month, maybe at the end of the month? I don't know if
this is true or not, but it could dovetail neatly into the three night
period from the Last Supper through Sunday morning. Perhaps the arrest party
came under cover of a moonless night.
Anyway, the vague idea here is: was there was a jewish passover year that
coincided with a 3 day moonless period?
I'm confused.
If there is such a thing and if there was such
a year, how does that date the crucifixion,
when you are relying on "perhaps it was
that way when they approached Jesus in
the garden"?
Either they saw by moonlight, or they would
have had to have used torches. Either way,
they would have needed some light.
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| User: "skddlbyp" |
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| Title: Re: Dating the Crucifixion? |
10 Jun 2007 01:41:41 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ib7m63d2q1s5ef7io3q21krv7esrui2n7t@4ax.com...
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:33:29 -0500, "skddlbyp" <ghmvdj@fnp.aiu>
spoke thusly:
I have been reading in some books that mention that the moon is
hidden
three days in each month, maybe at the end of the month? I don't know if
this is true or not, but it could dovetail neatly into the three night
period from the Last Supper through Sunday morning. Perhaps the arrest
party
came under cover of a moonless night.
Anyway, the vague idea here is: was there was a jewish passover year
that
coincided with a 3 day moonless period?
I'm confused.
If there is such a thing and if there was such
a year, how does that date the crucifixion,
when you are relying on "perhaps it was
that way when they approached Jesus in
the garden"?
Either they saw by moonlight, or they would
have had to have used torches. Either way,
they would have needed some light.
--
Pastor Dave
I thought of that after I posted. It just seems as if it would be good to
know, though. Was there a passover that coincided with a moonless period? If
not, forget it. If so, that would be interesting to bear in mind, just in
case something were to come of it.
If the gospel texts involved are, on the other hand, just literary and
symbolic, it would be a plus to select this moonless phase for symbolic
purposes. It would set a mood, it might explain why6 Jesus's disciples were
taken off guard, and it might suggest why the tomb needed to be heavily
guarded.
And if one supposes that the writers of the gospels could have been
adjusting their texts to appeal to pagans as much as to Jews, or to Jews as
much as to pagans (for example, the spearthrust in Jesus's side is a
perfect description of what happened to Tammuz, Adonis, or Osiris every
year,* compared to which the jewish text - Zech 12.11 -cited by John l9.37 -
is forcibly squeezed out of the actual words) then this might have had some
significance for pagan lunar devotees..
*Thomas Mann, Joseph and His Brothers(Everyman, 2005, Cloth), pp.362-363,
370.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Dating the Crucifixion? |
10 Jun 2007 03:45:25 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 13:41:41 -0500, "skddlbyp"
<ghmvdj@fnp.aiu> spoke thusly:
"Pastor Dave" <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ib7m63d2q1s5ef7io3q21krv7esrui2n7t@4ax.com...
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:33:29 -0500, "skddlbyp" <ghmvdj@fnp.aiu>
spoke thusly:
I have been reading in some books that mention that the moon is
hidden
three days in each month, maybe at the end of the month? I don't know if
this is true or not, but it could dovetail neatly into the three night
period from the Last Supper through Sunday morning. Perhaps the arrest
party
came under cover of a moonless night.
Anyway, the vague idea here is: was there was a jewish passover year
that
coincided with a 3 day moonless period?
I'm confused.
If there is such a thing and if there was such
a year, how does that date the crucifixion,
when you are relying on "perhaps it was
that way when they approached Jesus in
the garden"?
Either they saw by moonlight, or they would
have had to have used torches. Either way,
they would have needed some light.
--
Pastor Dave
I thought of that after I posted. It just seems as if it would be good to
know, though. Was there a passover that coincided with a moonless period?
Well once again, your question assumes that which
you said you do not know for sure, which is that
there is this Moonless period, that recurs regularly.
First you would need to prove that. Then you can
go for the other question, to which I do not at present
have an answer.
But I'll make a deal with ya. Prove the first to be true
and I'll help you find out the answer to the second. :)
--
Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
.
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| User: "Thurisaz, warrior of Thor" |
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| Title: Re: Dating the Crucifixion? |
09 Jun 2007 11:30:14 PM |
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skddlbyp:
I have been reading in some books that mention that the moon is hidden
three days in each month, maybe at the end of the month?
The total ignorance of the typical morontheist never fails to amaze me. How
are you able to function without constant supervision from others? Can you
at least eat and crap without help?
--
Thurisaz, warrior of Thor, natural enemy of morontheism
The judgment of morontheism: http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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