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"John" |
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21 Sep 2004 08:05:32 PM |
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Dave calls the "NIV" RAT POISON! |
When I send a message to rebuff his false argument he ignores it. Dave
why are you acting so childish?
John
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| User: "stone" |
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| Title: Re: Dave calls the "NIV" RAT POISON! |
21 Sep 2004 09:55:06 PM |
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John wrote in message <1095815131.mK3IKboxCbWCOowVZu6zmw@teranews>...
When I send a message to rebuff his false argument he ignores it. Dave
why are you acting so childish?
John
--
Vote George W. Bush in the November election!
http://www.georgewbush.com
Whether itıs taxes, jobs, health care, energy,
or national security: America canıt afford
John Kerry in the White House!
The NIV is based on the corrupted Alexandrian text which has about 5% of the
words changed. The real Bible is the King James Version, which is translated
from a different text; the massoretic text, old testament, and the textus
receptus or byzantine text New Testament.
Website about corrupt manuscripts and corrupt Bible versions:
http://www.avpublications.com/
1.) The publisher of obscene material, Rupert Murdoch, controls the printing
of the NIV.
2.) NIV stylist, Virginia Mollencott, is a lesbian, who promotes witch
covens.
3.) The NIV usually matches the changes and omissions in the Jehovah Witness
Bible.
4.) The word 'Lucifier', in Hebrew, cannot be translated 'morning star'.
5.) The NIV changes basic Bible doctrines.
6.) There are differences between NIV printings.
NIV Documentation $5.95
(Xerox copies)
How often have you heard a Bible teacher say, "The word here actually
means," only to have him unknowingly parrot new version readings all
because he is unfamiliar with the corruption which has affected his Greek
and Hebrew reference books (Strongs, Vines, Thayer, Gesenius, Brown, Driver,
Briggs, Liddell and Scott, etc.)?
Partial List of Corrupt New Versions
AMP Amplified Version ASV American Standard Version CEV Contemporary English
Version KJ21 21st Century King James Version NAB New American Bible (RC)
NASB New American Standard Bible NCV New Century Version NIV New
International Version NIVI New International Version Inclusive NKJV New King
James Version NLT New Living Translation (The Book) NRSV New Revised
Standard Version RSV Revised Standard Version RV Revised Version TEV Today's
English Version (Good News For Modern Man)
The manuscripts from which the textus receptus was taken are the majority of
the Greek manuscripts which agree with each other and have been accepted by
Bible believing Christians down through the centuries. The King James was
translated from these manuscripts. There are 5,309 surviving Greek
manuscripts that contain all or part of the New Testament. These manuscripts
agree together 95% of the time. The other 5% accounts for the differences
between the King James and the modern versions. The textus receptus, King
James, does not include the vaticanus and sinaiticus manuscripts from
Alexandrian Egypt; these are the corrupted manuscripts in question.
Manuscripts from which the modern versions are translated includes the
textus receptus plus the vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts. The modern
versions had to use the textus receptus since it contains the majority of
the surviving Greek manuscripts. The problem is that when the textus
receptus disagreed with the vaticanus or sainaiticus, they preferred these
corrupted manuscripts over the textus receptus. That accounts for the 5%
corruption in the modern versions. Where the textus receptus and the
vaticanus and sinaiticus do not agree, it is because Marcion, 120 - 160 AD
or Origin 184 - 254 AD [or whoever] corrupted those two manuscripts. (The
vaticanus and sinaiticus disagree with each other over 3000 times in the
gospels alone.)
The vast majority of the Greek manuscripts agree together. They have been
passed down through the centuries by true Bible believing Christians. In
1516 Erasmus compiled and printed the Greek (textus receptus) the received
text, from these manuscripts. This is the text that the protestants of the
reformation knew to be the Word of God, from which the King James Bible was
translated.
John Burgon, who spent years studying the texts wrote:
Sinaiticus is extremely unreliable. On many occasions, 10, 20, 30, 40, words
are dropped through very carelessness. Letters, words or whole sentences are
frequently written twice over or begun and immediately cancelled. A whole
clause omitted, because it happens to end in the words of the clause
preceeding happens 115 times in the New Testament.
The above is excerpts from the book:
Lets Weigh the Evidence: Which Bible is the Real Word of God? By Barry
Burton. Find it here:
http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0184.asp
Here is how the corrupted Alexandrian text differs from the real Bible, the
King James version.
1 John 5:7 was removed from the Alexandrian text by someone that did not
believe in the trinity. 1John 5:8 is in its place.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the
Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and
the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1 John 5:7 is by far not the only reason. Changes that were made to the
scriptures in Alexandria, Egypt, by unbelieving philosophers, in the
Alexandrian text, attack other important doctrines of the Christian faith.
You can go to this website and see for yourself how the changes that were
made to the Alexandrian text, affect important doctrines of the Christian
faith; the unsaved philosophers that made these changes were not real
Christians.
http://watch.pair.com/scriptures.html
Examples: The modern Alexandrian texts attack these doctrines:
The deity of Christ: 1 Timothy 3:16 " God was manifest in the flesh" - KJV
1 Tim. 3:16 " He who was revealed in the flesh - NAS
Heb. 2:11 " he that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are all of
one" - KJV
Heb. 2:11 "he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified have all one
origin" - Revised Version
Christ did not have an origin: Jesus said before Abraham was I am,
John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before
Abraham was, I am.
Psalms 90:2 Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst
formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou
art God.
Micah 5:2 kjv whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting
Micah 5:2 Revised standard whose origin is from of old, from ancient days
Verse attacking the doctrine of salvation by faith:
1 Peter 2:2 kjv "desire the sincere milk of the word that ye may grow
thereby."
1 Peter 2:2 revised version "long for the pure spiritual milk, that by it
you may grow up to salvation"
Salvation is obtained through faith in Jesus and repentance, you do not grow
up to it by doing works:
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of
yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Verse attacking ressurection of Christ:
Luke 24:6 KJV He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you
when he was yet in Galilee,
Luke 24:6 " Remember how he told you while he was still in Gallilee -
revised standard
It left out, he is not here, but is risen
Verse attacking word of God:
Luke 4:4 KJV And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall
not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Luke 4:4 " And Jesus answered him, It is written man shall not live on bread
alone" NAS
Leaves out " but by every word of God"
Verses attacking the virgin birth:
Isaiah 7:14 KJV Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a
virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 7:14 "behold a young woman shall conceive and bear a son" - Revised
Standard version
Is. 7:14 Good News Bible, "a young woman who is pregnant will have a son"
Luke 1:34 kjv
Luke 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know
not a man?
Luke 1:34 Revised standard "how shall this be since I have no husband"
The KJV plainly shows Mary to be a virgin: The revised standard opens up the
possibility that she conceived a child by another man that was not Joseph.
Excerpts from
Lets Weigh the Evidence: Which Bible is the Real Word of God? By Barry
Burton. Find it here:
http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/0184.asp
There are other examples of how the corrupted Alexandrian text modern Bible
versions have changed the words aroung to attack important doctrines of the
Christian faith.
Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a
furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Psalms 12:7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from
this generation for ever.
The King James Version is God's true word in English. The modern versions
come from a corrupted Alexandrian text that had the words changed in
important places.
The New King James Bible (NKJV), has proven to be a hoax, and is not a true
translation of the Textus Receptus. Some of the words were deliberately
changed for reasons other than translation.
http://www.llano.net/baptist/isnkjbwordofgod.htm
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| User: "Fred Goodwin, CMA" |
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| Title: Re: Dave calls the "NIV" RAT POISON! |
23 Sep 2004 01:31:42 PM |
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"stone" <antiaging@ineedhits-mail.com> wrote in message
news:4150e98a_2@news1.uncensored-news.com...
1 John 5:7 was removed from the Alexandrian text by someone that did not
believe in the trinity.
You know, don't you, that the MT omits 1 Jo 5:7? It is only in the TR because
the Roman Catholic Vulgate has it.
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