Religions > Bible > Dave recommends not to compromise, and also says that Genesis is literal while Revelation is not. :-D
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21 Sep 2007 03:35:19 PM |
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Dave recommends not to compromise, and also says that Genesis is literal while Revelation is not. :-D |
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
If Genesis is not literal,
then Jesus cannot be Lord and Savior, period and this is
easily proved, if one is willing to listen to Scripture
And if Genesis is literal, Adam and Eve had an eternal body in
Paradise, but then sin separated them from God and brought them death.
"... but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not
eat of it: for in the day that you eat of it you will surely die." Gen
2:17
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
Genesis states it clearly
as six literal days and Genesis isn't the only place in
the Bible that says it is six literal days. In fact, this
argument over Genesis, whether literal or not, is
just nonsense, [...]
Correct!
And Revelation is as literal as Genesis. Scripture is written in the
same Spirit from the beginning to the end. If Genesis is literal,
Revelation is, too.
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
Jesus is Lord.
Do you believe this? I mean, REALLY BELIEVE this?!
Because if you do, He stated that Genesis was literal
and since all things were created through Him and
by Him, He would know, don't you agree?
As much as He knows that there will be a new earth and new heavens...
It is as literal as Genesis.
I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first
earth have passed away, and the sea is no more. I saw the holy city, New
Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready like a bride
adorned for her husband. I heard a loud voice out of heaven saying,
"Behold, God's dwelling is with people, and he will dwell with them, and
they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God.
He will wipe away from them every tear from their eyes. Death will be no
more; neither will there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain, any more.
The first things have passed away." He who sits on the throne said,
"Behold, I am making all things new." He said, "Write, for these words
of God are faithful and true." He said to me, "It is done! I am the
Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give freely to
him who is thirsty from the spring of the water of life. He who
overcomes, I will give him these things. I will be his God, and he will
be my son. But for the cowardly, unbelieving, sinners, abominable,
murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their
part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second
death." One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls, who were loaded
with the seven last plagues came, and he spoke with me, saying, "Come
here. I will show you the wife, the Lamb's bride." He carried me away in
the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city,
Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God.
Her light was like a most precious stone, as if it was a jasper stone,
clear as crystal; having a great and high wall; having twelve gates, and
at the gates twelve angels; and names written on them, which are the
names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel. On the east were
three gates; and on the north three gates; and on the south three gates;
and on the west three gates. The wall of the city had twelve
foundations, and on them twelve names of the twelve Apostles of the
Lamb. He who spoke with me had for a measure, a golden reed, to measure
the city, its gates, and its walls. The city lies foursquare, and its
length is as great as its breadth. He measured the city with the reed,
Twelve thousand twelve stadia. Its length, breadth, and height are
equal. Its wall is one hundred forty-four cubits, by the measure of a
man, that is, of an angel. The construction of its wall was jasper. The
city was pure gold, like pure glass. The foundations of the city's wall
were adorned with all kinds of precious stones. The first foundation was
jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth,
emerald; the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh,
chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth,
chrysoprasus; the eleventh, jacinth; and the twelfth, amethyst. The
twelve gates were twelve pearls. Each one of the gates was made of one
pearl. The street of the city was pure gold, like transparent glass. I
saw no temple in it, for the Lord God, the Almighty, and the Lamb, are
its temple. The city has no need for the sun, neither of the moon, to
shine, for the very glory of God illuminated it, and its lamp is the
Lamb. The nations will walk in its light. The kings of the earth bring
the glory and honor of the nations into it. Its gates will in no way be
shut by day (for there will be no night there), and they shall bring the
glory and the honor of the nations into it so that they may enter. There
will in no way enter into it anything profane, or one who causes an
abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book
of life.
(Revelation 21:1-27 WEB)
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
So either He was right, or a con man.
Correct!
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
You decide,
but don't compromise. And with all due respect,
whether you want to admit it or not, that is exactly
what you are doing!
Just like the people who say Genesis is literal and Revelation is not.
:-D
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| User: "Mark T moi@Kevin07000011" |
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| Title: Re: Dave recommends not to compromise, and also says that Genesis is literal while Revelation is not. :-D |
21 Sep 2007 06:42:34 PM |
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" ::: good news :::" <veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
Revelation is as literal as Genesis.
DESCRIPTION OF JESUS
Jesus has white hair, eyes of fire, feet of brass, and has a sword sticking
out of his mouth. 1:13-16
John repeats his description of Jesus, saying he has eyes of fire and
feet of brass. 2:18
With eyes aflame, many crowns on his head, clothes dripping with blood, a
sword sticking out of his mouth, and a secret name, Jesus leads the faithful
into holy war. 19:12-15
This verse refers to Jesus as the "bright and morning star", as is Lucifer
in Is.14:12. So is Jesus Lucifer? 22:16
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Dave recommends not to compromise, and also says that Genesis is literal while Revelation is not. :-D |
22 Sep 2007 05:51:17 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:35:19 +0200, " ::: good news :::"
<veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
If Genesis is not literal,
then Jesus cannot be Lord and Savior, period and this is
easily proved, if one is willing to listen to Scripture
And if Genesis is literal, Adam and Eve had an eternal body in
Paradise, but then sin separated them from God and brought them death.
Repeating your garbage will not make the fact
that you're a liar go away.
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To email me, just remove the underscores.
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
except his/her own possessions.
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| User: "Fred A Stover" |
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| Title: Gnostic Satanist masquerades as angel of light |
22 Sep 2007 12:40:54 PM |
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"Pastor Knave" < SATAN_@_gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gss9f3hp3e7q2gf8jtp78a1nfgkns7jrnr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:35:19 +0200, " ::: good news :::"
<veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
If Genesis is not literal,
then Jesus cannot be Lord and Savior, period and this is
easily proved, if one is willing to listen to Scripture
And if Genesis is literal, Adam and Eve had an eternal body in
Paradise, but then sin separated them from God and brought them death.
Repeating your garbage will not make the fact
that you're a liar go away.
Duh....
Like most Authors the Author of scripture speaks literally and figuratively.
Your attempting to apply it to a whole book is simply, ignorance.
And, Satan, you're the liar.
How many threads are you going to start trying to claim that we won't be
physically like Christ the firstfruits:
1 Cor. 15:21-23
For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the
dead. [22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made
alive. [23] But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
His,
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| User: " ::: good news :::" |
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| Title: Re: Dave recommends not to compromise, and also says that Genesis is literal while Revelation is not. :-D |
22 Sep 2007 09:08:21 AM |
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In news:gss9f3hp3e7q2gf8jtp78a1nfgkns7jrnr@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:35:19 +0200, " ::: good news :::"
<veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
In news:qbu7f3hoh23aphs2bst66rpovomdl5q6vh@4ax.com,
Pastor Dave <ananias917_@_gmail.com> typed:
If Genesis is not literal,
then Jesus cannot be Lord and Savior, period and this is
easily proved, if one is willing to listen to Scripture
And if Genesis is literal, Adam and Eve had an eternal body in
Paradise, but then sin separated them from God and brought them
death.
Repeating your garbage will not make the fact
that you're a liar go away.
You are the greatest Pinoccio which ACC has ever seen - have you
forgotten already?
:---------------------------------------------)
I do not lie, but the liar is you. And apart from your false preterism
believe this will bring you in to hell - or do you think you do not have
to take this literal, either, and you are above God's rules somehow:
"You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor." (Exodus
20:16 WEB)
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth,
neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which
are written in the Lamb's book of life. (Revelation 21:27 KJV)
Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the
murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices
falsehood. (Revelation 22:15 WEB)
Do you have no respect of the Word of God in a Christian newsgroup?
In all the years I have not seen one single bit of a Christian behavior
from you. I really have to doubt about the truth in anything you have
written, and what integrity you might have in general, and what your
real plans are behind your show.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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| Title: Re: Dave recommends not to compromise, and also says that Genesis is literal while Revelation is not. :-D |
22 Sep 2007 07:45:15 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:08:21 +0200, " ::: good news :::"
<veralein@lycos.com> wrote:
I do not lie, but the liar is you. And apart from your false preterism
believe this will bring you in to hell - or do you think you do not have
to take this literal, either, and you are above God's rules somehow:
Hell is full of liars. You are lying. Be careful!
Do you have no respect of the Word of God in a Christian newsgroup?
I am not the one torturing it.
And why would you ask that? Is it okay with you
to disrespect it elsewhere?
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To email me, just remove the underscores.
A liberal is someone who will give away everything
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