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"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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18 Jan 2007 10:04:48 PM |
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DEATH TO ISLAM, NUKE THE DAMN ANIMALS. |
The "peaceful" muslim piles of *****, busy as usual.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/01/17/warwithin.overview/index.html
DUBLIN, Ireland (CNN) -- At a recent debate over the battle for Islamic
ideals in England, a British-born Muslim stood before the crowd and said
Prophet Mohammed's message to nonbelievers is: "I come to slaughter all of
you."
"We are the Muslims," said Omar Brooks, an extremist also known as Abu
Izzadeen. "We drink the blood of the enemy, and we can face them anywhere.
That is Islam and that is jihad."
Anjem Choudary, the public face of Islamist extremism in Britain, added that
Muslims have no choice but to take the fight to the West.
"What are Muslims supposed to do when they are being killed in the streets
in Afghanistan and Baghdad and Palestine? Do they not have the same rights
to defend themselves? In war, people die. People don't make love; they kill
each other," he said. (Audio slide show: Preying on Britain's young Muslims)
But in the same debate, held on the prestigious grounds of Dublin's Trinity
College in October, many people in the crowd objected.
"These people, ladies and gentleman, have a good look at them. They actually
believe if you kill women and children, you will go to heaven," said one
young Muslim who waved his finger at the radicals.
"This is not ideology. It's a mental illness." (Watch 'No chance in hell' )
'Foreign policy has a lot to do with it'
This war of words is part of a larger debate going on in Britain -- the war
within the Muslim community for the hearts and minds of young people. The
battle of ideas came to the fore again this week when the trial began for
six men who are accused of an "extremist Muslim plot" to target London on
July 21, 2005.
The Woolwich Crown Court was told the men plotted to carry out a series of
"murderous suicide bombings" on London's public transport system, just 14
days after the carnage of the July 7 London bombings, which killed 52
commuters and four bombers.
While Islamic extremists are believed to be a tiny minority of Britain's 1.6
million Muslims, they have no problem having their criticism heard. They
have disdain for democracy -- and, most of all, the Bush administration's
war on terror policies.
A poll taken in June 2006 for the Times of London newspaper suggested that
13 percent of British Muslims believe the July 7 London bombers were
martyrs.
"Foreign policy has a lot to do with it," said Hanif Qadir, a youth worker
and a moderate voice for Islam in Walthamstow, one of London's biggest
Muslim neighborhoods. "But it's the minority radical groups that use that to
get to our young people."
In August, British police descended on Walthamstow, saying they had foiled a
conspiracy to blow up a dozen U.S.-bound airliners with liquid explosives.
That set off the biggest security alert since the September 11, 2001,
terrorist attacks. Police arrested 24 people in connection with the alleged
terror plot, although one man was released after it was determined he was an
innocent bystander.
Britain's Scotland Yard and MI5 have also said they are aware of at least 30
terrorist cells and potential plots inside Britain.
'Blowing people up is quite cool'
Young Muslims are easy prey, Qadir told CNN, because they believe the
British government crackdown has scapegoated them because of their religious
beliefs. The youth also can empathize with those who castigate the Bush
administration.
There are some who believe "blowing people up is quite cool," Qadir said.
Qadir asked them why that was justified.
"The answers that I got back is: When a bomb goes off in Baghdad or in
Afghanistan and innocent women and children are killed over there, who cares
for them? So if a bomb goes off in America or in London, what's wrong with
that?" he said.
Qadir is trying to get mosque leaders, many still practicing the tribal
traditions of Pakistan, to communicate with the younger generation. But he
says it is an uphill battle when radicals like Choudary dominate the debate,
getting their faces -- and their message -- out in the public.
"Our scholars ... are not coming out of their holes -- their mosques and
their holes -- to engage with these people. They're frightened of that,"
Qadir said.
The message of extremism can also thrive among youth who see no way out of
ethnic ghettos.
"They're into all kinds of vices -- street crime, gun crime, drugs, car
theft, credit card fraud. But then now you've got another threat," Qadir
said.
"The new threat is radicalism. It's a cause. Every young man wants a cause."
Activist calls for Islamic law
Choudary, whose group Al-Mahajiroun disbanded before the British government
could outlaw it under its anti-terror laws, spoke to CNN and made clear he
wants to see Islamic law for Britain.
"All of the world belongs to Allah, and we will live according to the Sharia
wherever we are," said Choudary, a lawyer. "This is a fundamental belief of
the Muslims." (Watch a call for Islamic law )
Asked if he believes in democracy, he said, "No, I don't at all."
"One day, the Sharia will be implemented in Britain. It's a matter of time."
Choudary cited the videotaped "will" of one of the London subway bombers,
Mohammed Sidique Khan, who said, "Until you stop the bombing, gassing,
imprisonment and torture of my people, we will not stop this fight."
Choudary said he sides strongly with that statement -- "we have everything
we need in those wills" -- and he cited passages from the Muslim holy book,
the Quran, that he says justify jihad.
"I happen to be in an ideological and political war," Choudary said. "My
brothers in al Qaeda and other Mujahedeen are involved in a military
campaign."
While Choudary and other radicals continue to try to spread their beliefs,
others say there is no justification for jihad in England. Imam Usama Hasan
memorized the Quran by the time he was 11 and at 19, he briefly fought in
Afghanistan against the Soviets.
"If you have the wrong intention, you can justify your criminal actions from
any text -- whether it's the Quran or Bible or Shakespeare," Hasan said.
He said it makes him "furious" when radicals quote the Quran out of context
to justify killing of innocents. It's a "very tiny" minority with such
beliefs, he said, but "it only takes a handful, of course, to create
devastation."
"Many people are terrified of Muslims. They are terrified of a brother
walking down the road with his eastern dress and his hat and his beard,
because they have seen these images associated with suicide bombers," he
said.
"It is up to us to dispel that fear -- to smile at people to tell them that
.... the message of Islam is not about bits of cloth. It is not about the
beard or head scarf or the face veil or violence. It is about peace."
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