"Bible John" <john.doggett@x-files.gov> wrote in message
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I purpose a challenge to a KJVO Fundamentalist Christian the following
topic.
What is the KJVO?
[B]Resolved. The King James version is not God's only Bible for the
English
speaking people[/B]
I precieve all bibles are only "VERSIONS" and they need to be treated
as such.
I will argue in favor and my opponent will oppose. I'd like a 2 week time
frame in between statements, and a concurrent form of 4-5 rounds.
I have no idea what you may be talking about here.
I will arguing these and many other points in my rebuttal of the KJVO
view.
1. How did people get saved before 1611?
In my bible study it looks like before and after 1611, it goes something
like this; we witness to others about Jesus and the Creator God.
when the message is understood and recieved God the father brings His
Son and the new subject together to meet.
Now that new subject makes the choice to accept or reject the Son.
If the subject accepts the Son as the creator Lord the subject is saved
and is in for a real new Life on a higher plain of thinking, (one may call
it
the Rapture).
How ever if the subject rejects the Son, God does not give up on it but
only brings in more witnesses for the subject to learn from and at a
later date sets up the meeting again and again.
However the subject only has until death to receive life eteranal because
after that is the judgement with no excuses that they were not told.
2. Can you explain why the KJV includes the word "Corn" when "Corn" was
not
in Egypt at the time of the Bible?
I questioned that also for a long time but with the modern TV air waves we
see they call wheat "corn" over there for some unknown reason.
I guess it has to do with like the pepper corn also. I think it should be
curnel or Kunrnel or cernel but not corn.
3. Can you explain why the KJV says that "God Repented from evil"?
The KJV also says "God creates evil". How ever I atribute that to just one
more translation errors in that version as I think all versions have
translation
errors as well so we are not to trust any one version over or better then
any other version. How ever it is most important to cross reference versions
to try to get a better view of what the message is that the bible is trying
to get across.
I for one do not speak old KJV English. so it is really hard for me to
understand
a lot of what it is trying to say, so I also use the NIV, New International
Version
4. Can you explain Ex 20:13 where the KJV forbids killing an insect? Yet
the
NKJV and all modern translations do not?
No I can not. Except it is part of the "translating" that went on during
the
time when it was being put together by the few that were working on it.
5. Can you explain what "Gay clothing is?"
I do not have a clue. How ever there is such thing that is called
"Glad rags" or nice clothes for celebrating in with.
6. Can you tell me what a Unicorn looks like?
Yes I can! Look up rinosorus (spelling sorry) it fits it perfectly.
7. Is/was the Latin Vulgate the "word of God"? Why or why not? (Note: the
Latin Vulgate was the standard Bible, by which all else was compared, more
universally and for a longer period of time than the KJV has been)
It too was only a version so yes it too has Gods message in it for the most
part.
8. Is/was the Septuagint (LXX) the "word of God"? Why or why not? (Note:
despite its obvious imperfections and inclusion of apocryphal books, the
KJV
translators still called it "the word of God".
I must say it too is another version. but "all scripture is God breathed".
9. Is/was the Geneva Bible, the Great Bible, Matthew's, Tyndale's, etc.
the
"word of God"? Why or why not?
Again, All versions.
10. If scripture is the sole authority for matters of faith and doctrine,
then by what authority should anyone accept the doctrine of KJV-onlyism?
Onlyism is a dangerous thing to do with any, Bible Version.
One is not better or worse then the other but in study we must look at
more then one or two to see what the message is.
Since scripture does not teach the doctrine of KJV-onlyism, is it not then
an extra-Biblical doctrine? Why should we accept a doctrine needing a
second
authority, proclaimed by those who argue that there is only one authority
for matters of doctrine in the first place?
The versions are all works of man trying to do the best they could with what
they had to work with at the time they were working on each.
So you will find inconsistancies in all "VERSOINS", so use more then one
to see what is going on to get a better feel for Gods Message.
Have you ever made the connection that the Bible, (both old and new
testamenst) is the two witnesses mentioned in Revelation 11?
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Please note that I am not attacking the KJV Translation, for its a very
good
work. I have myself 1 Print KJV Bible and a KJV Bible on all my computers.
he KJV is a good work. But its not the most reliable translation, nor is
it
the only translation.
You may want to take another look at the words; Translatoin and Version
side by side and there in you may see more of a better understanding of
all the different works, weather they are translations or Versions.
Mistylien
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