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"Terry Cross" |
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08 Jul 2006 03:22:43 PM |
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Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter. Read if
for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
Deuteronomy 13
6 "Suppose your brother, son, daughter, beloved wife, or closest friend
comes to you secretly and says, `Let us go worship other gods'--gods
that neither you nor your ancestors have known.
7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live
nearby or who come from the ends of the earth.
8 If they do this, do not give in or listen, and have no pity. Do not
spare or protect them.
9 You must put them to death! You must be the one to initiate the
execution; then all the people must join in.
10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you
away from the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt,
the place of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear about it and be afraid, and such
wickedness will never again be done among you.
12 "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you
13 that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.
14 In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among
you,
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
17 Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he
solemnly promised your ancestors.
18 "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep
all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
That's it, Deborah. But maybe you would like to say the chapter is
allegorical?
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Terry Cross, the Jew Hating ***** |
10 Jul 2006 10:19:18 AM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
And you, Terry, are a *****. In the very literal definition of the
word, of course.
Shavua tov,
Deborah
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| User: "Ariadne" |
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| Title: Re: Terry Cross, the Jew Hating ***** |
10 Jul 2006 10:43:47 AM |
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wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
And you, Terry, are a *****. In the very literal definition of the
word, of course.
Shavua tov,
Deborah
American *****?
English *****?
Both?
What about "Ras clot!"?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Terry Cross, the Jew Hating ***** |
10 Jul 2006 05:22:40 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
And you, Terry, are a *****. In the very literal definition of the
word, of course.
Shavua tov,
Deborah
Ariadne wrote:
American *****?
English *****?
Both?
What about "Ras clot!"?
<g> The Yank version, obviously.
Deborah
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
10 Jul 2006 12:12:26 PM |
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wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Maybe it is just about two-headed giants? Will that be your next
dodge?
The plain unadorned text contains no mention of "idol worshippers and
baby burners" -- that is your invention. Here is the text from
Deuteronomy 13:
12 If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is
giving you to live in 13 that wicked men have arisen among you and have
led the people of their town astray, saying, "Let us go and worship
other gods" (gods you have not known), 14 then you must inquire, probe
and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved
that this detestable thing has been done among you, 15 you must
certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it
completely, [a] both its people and its livestock. 16 Gather all the
plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely
burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD
your God. It is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Then read from the 1917 Jewish Publication Society:
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/jps/deu013.htm
13:13 If thou shalt hear tell concerning one of thy cities, which the
Lord thy God giveth thee to dwell there, saying:
13:14 'Certain base fellows are gone out from the midst of thee, and
have drawn away the inhabitants of their city, saying: Let us go and
serve other gods, which ye have not known';
13:15 then shalt thou inquire, and make search, and ask diligently;
and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such
abomination is wrought in the midst of thee;
13:16 thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the
edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein and
the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
13:17 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the
broad place thereof, and shall burn with fire the city, and all the
spoil thereof every whit, unto the Lord thy God; and it shall be a heap
for ever; it shall not be built again.
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
And you, Terry, are a *****.
Have you ever noticed? Every time you are frustrated by the truth, you
resort to potty-talk. That may be something you should mention to your
doctor.
TCross
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
10 Jul 2006 05:27:31 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Terry Cross wrote:
Maybe it is just about two-headed giants? Will that be your next
dodge?
LOL! That's funny, coming from the champion sidedodger of these NGs.
The plain unadorned text contains no mention of "idol worshippers and
baby burners" -- that is your invention.
Of course not. The level is a bit above the standard American imbecile,
with which the authors were, of course, unacquainted. Lucky them.
Here is the text from Deuteronomy 13:
Already read it, imbecile. And your interpretation is still out of
whack, like the majority of your posts.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Then read from the 1917 Jewish Publication Society:
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/jps/deu013.htm
I can read it in the 2000 version, thank you very much. BTW, do you own
any books, or do you merely fart around on the internet like your
poodle?
Have you ever noticed? Every time you are frustrated by the truth, you
resort to potty-talk. That may be something you should mention to your
doctor.
TCross
That's not frustration, stupid. That's irritation with monumental
stupidty such as yours.
And do you notice your sixth grade level of communcation: "potty talk"?
Still calling for Mommy to help you when you go to the potty?
Deborah
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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10 Jul 2006 11:24:34 PM |
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wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Terry Cross wrote:
Maybe it is just about two-headed giants? Will that be your next
dodge?
LOL! That's funny, coming from the champion sidedodger of these NGs.
The plain unadorned text contains no mention of "idol worshippers and
baby burners" -- that is your invention.
Of course not. The level is a bit above the standard American imbecile,
with which the authors were, of course, unacquainted. Lucky them.
Here is the text from Deuteronomy 13:
Already read it, imbecile. And your interpretation is still out of
whack, like the majority of your posts.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Then read from the 1917 Jewish Publication Society:
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/jps/deu013.htm
I can read it in the 2000 version, thank you very much. BTW, do you own
any books, or do you merely fart around on the internet like your
poodle?
Have you ever noticed? Every time you are frustrated by the truth, you
resort to potty-talk. That may be something you should mention to your
doctor.
TCross
That's not frustration, stupid. That's irritation with monumental
stupidty such as yours.
And do you notice your sixth grade level of communcation: "potty talk"?
I am addressing your inner child, hoping she has more sense of decency
than your outer adult.
TCross
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
11 Jul 2006 10:36:21 AM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Terry Cross wrote:
Maybe it is just about two-headed giants? Will that be your next
dodge?
LOL! That's funny, coming from the champion sidedodger of these NGs.
The plain unadorned text contains no mention of "idol worshippers and
baby burners" -- that is your invention.
Of course not. The level is a bit above the standard American imbecile,
with which the authors were, of course, unacquainted. Lucky them.
Here is the text from Deuteronomy 13:
Already read it, imbecile. And your interpretation is still out of
whack, like the majority of your posts.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Then read from the 1917 Jewish Publication Society:
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/jps/deu013.htm
I can read it in the 2000 version, thank you very much. BTW, do you own
any books, or do you merely fart around on the internet like your
poodle?
Have you ever noticed? Every time you are frustrated by the truth, you
resort to potty-talk. That may be something you should mention to your
doctor.
TCross
That's not frustration, stupid. That's irritation with monumental
stupidty such as yours.
And do you notice your sixth grade level of communcation: "potty talk"?
Terry Cross wrote:
I am addressing your inner child, hoping she has more sense of decency
than your outer adult.
TCross
You are sidedodging again -- which is all you seem capable of doing --
this time into pop-psychobabble bs. Your fertilizer factory apparently
is large and contains multitudes.
Deborah
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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10 Jul 2006 11:24:48 PM |
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wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron. It concerns idol worshippers and baby burners--your
sort of buddies.
Terry Cross wrote:
Maybe it is just about two-headed giants? Will that be your next
dodge?
LOL! That's funny, coming from the champion sidedodger of these NGs.
The plain unadorned text contains no mention of "idol worshippers and
baby burners" -- that is your invention.
Of course not. The level is a bit above the standard American imbecile,
with which the authors were, of course, unacquainted. Lucky them.
Here is the text from Deuteronomy 13:
Already read it, imbecile. And your interpretation is still out of
whack, like the majority of your posts.
Read if for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
I prefer the Hebrew version, not some fundie-site crap version.
Then read from the 1917 Jewish Publication Society:
http://sacred-texts.com/bib/jps/deu013.htm
I can read it in the 2000 version, thank you very much. BTW, do you own
any books, or do you merely fart around on the internet like your
poodle?
Have you ever noticed? Every time you are frustrated by the truth, you
resort to potty-talk. That may be something you should mention to your
doctor.
TCross
That's not frustration, stupid. That's irritation with monumental
stupidty such as yours.
And do you notice your sixth grade level of communcation: "potty talk"?
I am addressing your inner child, hoping she has more sense of decency
than your outer adult.
TCross
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| User: "moshe" |
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10 Jul 2006 01:29:18 PM |
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In article <1152544757.916462.300340@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
dsharavi@gmail.com says...
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter.
Baloney, moron.
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Orthodox Union, Jewish Study Network, and anti-missionary J.D. Stone claim that
Deuteronomy 13 refers to missionaries:
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Page 1
Winter 5765/2004 JEWISH ACTION
Preying on Souls in the Holy Land
Society
By Hdar Yashar
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The battle against missionaries in
Israel is not merely a legal one.
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In Devarim, we are commanded:
If your brother, the son of your mother,
or your son or your daughter, or the wife
of your bosom, or your friend who is like
your own soul will entice you secretly,
saying, “Let us go and worship the gods
of others,” ... you shall not accede to him
and not hearken to him; your eye shall
not take pity on him, you shall not be
compassionate nor conceal him. Rather,
you shall surely kill him; your hand shall
be the first against him to kill him and
the hand of the entire people afterwards.
You shall pelt him with stones, and he
shall die … (13:7-11)
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It may be construed as undemocratic
to destroy the lives of missionaries in
Israel—to force them out of their jobs,
to demonstrate fiercely in front of con-
vention halls and to create strict laws
prohibiting the means in which they
carry out their work—but Israel is a
Jewish State. It is our duty to ensure
that it remains that way.
- quoted from
http://www.ou.org/publications/ja/5765/5765winter/PREYINGO.PDF
- also at
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:xjga0TwMlU0J:www.ou.org/publications/ja/5765/5765winter/PREYINGO.PDF+(missionaries+OR+missionary)+Devarim&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8
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“STAY FAR AWAY!”
John Stone
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G-d is anti Christian! He hates Christianity so much that He made it a capital
sin. [1]
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Footnote:
1. Deuteronomy (Devarim) Chapter 13 (STONE Edition Chumash)
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7. If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or your daughter, or the
wife of your bosom, or your friend who is like your own soul will entice you
secretly, saying, "Let us go and worship the gods of others" -- that you did not
know, you nor your forefathers:
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Mountain View, CA 94043
(650) 961-4576
www.jsn.info
JEWISH STUDY NETWORK
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We find three mitzvot that are indigenous to Re’eh: how to
deal with an idolatrous prophet, an idolatrous missionary, and an apostate city
(13:2-19).
....
- quoted from
http://www.jsn.info/Reeh.pdf
- also at
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:5r1A8nUQsJMJ:www.jsn.info/Reeh.pdf+(missionaries+OR+missionary)+Devarim&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=46&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8
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| User: "moshe" |
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| Title: Re: Terry Cross, the Jew Hating ***** |
10 Jul 2006 01:47:05 PM |
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In article <1152544757.916462.300340@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
dsharavi@gmail.com says...
Terry Cross, the Jew Hating *****
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Present proof for your claim that Terry is a "Jew" and that she "hates *****".
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| User: "" |
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10 Jul 2006 05:28:33 PM |
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moshe wrote:
Present proof for your claim that Terry is a "Jew" and that she "hates *****".
Present your proof that you and Terry the Jew Hating ***** aren't a pair
of closet crotch cannibals.
Deborah
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| User: "Ha SATAN [Sin Tet Nun]" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
11 Jul 2006 04:02:11 AM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
No, silly fool, that is not how things work.
On the other hand i can only contemn you i cannot help you, although i
have tried.
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| User: "Roy Jose Lorr" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
09 Jul 2006 04:21:35 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter. Read if
for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
Deuteronomy 13
6 "Suppose your brother, son, daughter, beloved wife, or closest friend
comes to you secretly and says, `Let us go worship other gods'--gods
that neither you nor your ancestors have known.
7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live
nearby or who come from the ends of the earth.
8 If they do this, do not give in or listen, and have no pity. Do not
spare or protect them.
9 You must put them to death! You must be the one to initiate the
execution; then all the people must join in.
10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you
away from the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt,
the place of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear about it and be afraid, and such
wickedness will never again be done among you.
12 "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you
13 that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.
14 In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among
you,
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
17 Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he
solemnly promised your ancestors.
18 "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep
all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
That's it, Deborah. But maybe you would like to say the chapter is
allegorical?
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
And you are a pathological Jew hating liar. The above
verses specify that the cleansing of 'towns' of idolaters is
to take place only within the towns that are in or will be
in Israel's possession. Unlike moslem and xian holy book
instructions there's nothing in the Five Books of Moses that
encourages Israel to go into towns other than those that
belong to them or will belong to them to commit violent acts
against the town's idolatrous inhabitants. Nor is their any
violence committed in these towns in order to convert the
idolatrous inhabitants to the God of Israel, unlike the
moslems and xians who are instructed in their holy books to
do just such in the name of their gods.
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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10 Jul 2006 11:52:20 AM |
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Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter. Read if
for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
Deuteronomy 13
6 "Suppose your brother, son, daughter, beloved wife, or closest friend
comes to you secretly and says, `Let us go worship other gods'--gods
that neither you nor your ancestors have known.
7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live
nearby or who come from the ends of the earth.
8 If they do this, do not give in or listen, and have no pity. Do not
spare or protect them.
9 You must put them to death! You must be the one to initiate the
execution; then all the people must join in.
10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you
away from the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt,
the place of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear about it and be afraid, and such
wickedness will never again be done among you.
12 "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you
13 that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.
14 In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among
you,
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
17 Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he
solemnly promised your ancestors.
18 "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep
all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
That's it, Deborah. But maybe you would like to say the chapter is
allegorical?
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
And you are a pathological Jew hating liar. The above
verses specify that the cleansing of 'towns' of idolaters is
to take place only within the towns that are in or will be
in Israel's possession. Unlike moslem and xian holy book
instructions there's nothing in the Five Books of Moses that
encourages Israel to go into towns other than those that
belong to them or will belong to them to commit violent acts
against the town's idolatrous inhabitants. Nor is their any
violence committed in these towns
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
Don't know about you, George, but that reads pretty violent in the eyes
of any Gentile.
in order to convert the
idolatrous inhabitants to the God of Israel, unlike the
moslems and xians who are instructed in their holy books to
do just such in the name of their gods.
The Christians have made the mistake of adoptiong the Hebrew
Scriptures, so all the violent ideas of Moses are inherited by the
Christians. However, contrary to what your rabbis told you, there is
almost violence in the New Testament.
You should read the New Testament sometime for yourself, rather than
accepting the rabbis' misinformation.
TCross
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| User: "Roy Jose Lorr" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
10 Jul 2006 01:32:33 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter. Read if
for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
Deuteronomy 13
6 "Suppose your brother, son, daughter, beloved wife, or closest friend
comes to you secretly and says, `Let us go worship other gods'--gods
that neither you nor your ancestors have known.
7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live
nearby or who come from the ends of the earth.
8 If they do this, do not give in or listen, and have no pity. Do not
spare or protect them.
9 You must put them to death! You must be the one to initiate the
execution; then all the people must join in.
10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you
away from the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt,
the place of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear about it and be afraid, and such
wickedness will never again be done among you.
12 "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you
13 that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.
14 In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among
you,
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
17 Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he
solemnly promised your ancestors.
18 "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep
all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
That's it, Deborah. But maybe you would like to say the chapter is
allegorical?
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
And you are a pathological Jew hating liar. The above
verses specify that the cleansing of 'towns' of idolaters is
to take place only within the towns that are in or will be
in Israel's possession. Unlike moslem and xian holy book
instructions there's nothing in the Five Books of Moses that
encourages Israel to go into towns other than those that
belong to them or will belong to them to commit violent acts
against the town's idolatrous inhabitants. Nor is their any
violence committed in these towns
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
Don't know about you, George, but that reads pretty violent in the eyes
of any Gentile.
Violence in war is not the same as violence to convert when
there is no war. That's the point.
in order to convert the
idolatrous inhabitants to the God of Israel, unlike the
moslems and xians who are instructed in their holy books to
do just such in the name of their gods.
The Christians have made the mistake of adoptiong the Hebrew
Scriptures, so all the violent ideas of Moses are inherited by the
Christians. However, contrary to what your rabbis told you, there is
almost violence in the New Testament.
Xians reject Hebrew Scripture.
You should read the New Testament sometime for yourself, rather than
accepting the rabbis' misinformation.
You're the one needs to take that advice.
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| User: "isaac_the_blind" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
08 Jul 2006 04:05:23 PM |
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Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter. Read if
for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
Deuteronomy 13
6 "Suppose your brother, son, daughter, beloved wife, or closest friend
comes to you secretly and says, `Let us go worship other gods'--gods
that neither you nor your ancestors have known.
7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live
nearby or who come from the ends of the earth.
8 If they do this, do not give in or listen, and have no pity. Do not
spare or protect them.
9 You must put them to death! You must be the one to initiate the
execution; then all the people must join in.
10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you
away from the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt,
the place of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear about it and be afraid, and such
wickedness will never again be done among you.
12 "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you
13 that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.
14 In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among
you,
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
17 Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he
solemnly promised your ancestors.
18 "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep
all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
That's it, Deborah. But maybe you would like to say the chapter is
allegorical?
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
I worship the Great God Mithras myself :-)
Isaac
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| User: "Terry Cross" |
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08 Jul 2006 04:33:39 PM |
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isaac_the_blind wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter. Read if
for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
Deuteronomy 13
6 "Suppose your brother, son, daughter, beloved wife, or closest friend
comes to you secretly and says, `Let us go worship other gods'--gods
that neither you nor your ancestors have known.
7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live
nearby or who come from the ends of the earth.
8 If they do this, do not give in or listen, and have no pity. Do not
spare or protect them.
9 You must put them to death! You must be the one to initiate the
execution; then all the people must join in.
10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you
away from the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt,
the place of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear about it and be afraid, and such
wickedness will never again be done among you.
12 "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you
13 that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.
14 In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among
you,
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
17 Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he
solemnly promised your ancestors.
18 "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep
all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
That's it, Deborah. But maybe you would like to say the chapter is
allegorical?
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
I worship ... myself :-)
Isaac
And I believe it.
TCross
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| User: "St Dog the Wet" |
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| Title: Re: Deborah, the Holocaust Denier |
08 Jul 2006 05:18:31 PM |
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isaac_the_blind wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
dsharavi@gmail.com wrote:
Terry Cross wrote:
The major difference between the Jew with a Yarmulke in a Christian
area, and the Christian with a T-shirt in the Jewish area was -
courage.
True. The Jew with a yarmulkeh in a Xian area is far likelier to be
attacked than a Xian in a Jewish area.
They should have followed Deuteronomy 13. The instructions are clear.
If these fools do not follow the divine instructions, they make their
own problems. They should always kill the missionaries, burn down
their towns, and leave their ashes in a heap forever as an offering to
the Lord.
There's nothing in Deut 13 about killing missionizers or burning their
towns.
Of course there is. That is the subject of the whole chapter. Read if
for yourself in whichever version you prefer:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deut%2013;&version=51;
Deuteronomy 13
6 "Suppose your brother, son, daughter, beloved wife, or closest friend
comes to you secretly and says, `Let us go worship other gods'--gods
that neither you nor your ancestors have known.
7 They might suggest that you worship the gods of peoples who live
nearby or who come from the ends of the earth.
8 If they do this, do not give in or listen, and have no pity. Do not
spare or protect them.
9 You must put them to death! You must be the one to initiate the
execution; then all the people must join in.
10 Stone the guilty ones to death because they have tried to draw you
away from the LORD your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt,
the place of slavery.
11 Then all Israel will hear about it and be afraid, and such
wickedness will never again be done among you.
12 "Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving
you
13 that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens
astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.
14 In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it
is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among
you,
15 you must attack that town and completely destroy[a] all its
inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.
16 Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and
burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the
LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be
rebuilt.
17 Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.
Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.
He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he
solemnly promised your ancestors.
18 "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep
all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.
That's it, Deborah. But maybe you would like to say the chapter is
allegorical?
Whatever, burning a town to the ground for the Lord would be a
"Holocaust." You, Deborah, are therefore a _Holocaust_denier_ in the
very literal definition of the word.
TCross
I worship the Great God Mithras myself :-)
Isaac
You must be wrong!
You must be suffering from delusion!!
How can you worship a false god if The Lord came in AD 70?
Those who teach the doctrine of Preterism (aka "Pastor Dave)
teach that The Lord came in AD 70, and therefore according to
prophecy the names of the gods are no more remembered!!
Mic 5:12-13
And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt
have no more soothsayers: Thy graven images also will I cut off,
and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt
no more worship the work of thine hands.
Na 1:14 And the LORD hath given a commandment concerning thee,
that no more of thy name be sown: out of the house of thy gods
will I cut off the graven image and the molten image: I will make
thy grave; for thou art vile.
Zep 1:4-6 I will also stretch out mine hand upon Judah, and upon
all the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and I will cut off the remnant
of Baal from this place, and the name of the Chemarims with the
priests; And them that worship the host of heaven upon the
housetops; and them that worship and that swear by the LORD, and
that swear by Malcham; And them that are turned back from the
LORD; and those that have not sought the LORD, nor enquired for him.
Zec 13:2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD
of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the
land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause
the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.
owd
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