Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints,
and of all who have been slain on earth."

What is described in Revelations of Babylon does not describe
Jerusalem of that day, by any means. The passage in Revelation
describes a condition in which the entire world economy will be
impacted by the destruction of that city.

What is described in Revelations

On 12 Mar 2006 21:51:43 -0800,

Designer of the motionless Tilt-a-Whirl wrote:

A recent commentary had this to say in a discourse concerning the
Parousia:

Who is this harlot, Babylon the great? Most in the
futurist camp would say Rome, the future apostate
Christianity. Not quite! The Bible has the answer
as to the identity of the great city referred to.
Rev. 11:8 says the great city (see Rev. 14:8; 16:19;
17:1, 18; 18:2) which mystically is called Sodom
and Egypt, where the Lord was crucified. It was
Jerusalem, without a doubt. The harlot was
apostate Israel because of her rejection of the Son
of God. Before Christ died on the cross, the Jewish
people cried and "prophesied" against themselves
saying: "His blood be on us and on our children"
(Matt. 27:25). They didn't realize what they were
saying, as after 40 years (a generation) later God
was accomplishing all things as the OT and the NT
had predicted (Luke 21:22, 32).

Exactly. The Lord was not crucified in New York City. Nor will America
be charged with the blood of all the saints, Jesus said Jerusalem would
be...and right quickly too, a generation away. He was gracious to allow
another 40 years for repentance.

The following from Revelation foresees the following concerning the
fall of Babylon:

NAS Rev 18:11 "And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her,
because no one buys their cargoes any more;
12 cargoes of gold and silver and precious stones and pearls and fine
linen and purple and silk and scarlet, and every kind of citron wood
and every article of ivory and every article made from very costly
wood and bronze and iron and marble,
13 and cinnamon and spice and incense and perfume and frankincense
and wine and olive oil and fine flour and wheat and cattle and sheep,
and cargoes of horses and chariots and slaves and human lives.
14 "And the fruit you long for has gone from you, and all things that
were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and men will no
longer find them.
15 "The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will
stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and
mourning,
16 saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine
linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious
stones and pearls;
17 for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every
shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their
living by the sea, stood at a distance,
18 and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying,
'What city is like the great city?'
19 "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping
and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had
ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been
laid waste!'

This does not describe Jerusalem in the Jerusalem of 70 AD.

Why do you say that? Did you know New Testament Palestine had many
ports and Jerusalem traded with merchants from all over the world? Why
they even traded at the Temple in Jerusalem...Jesus was angry about
that. There was trading in Jerusalem for 100's of years.

The inner doors of the Temple were made of solid gold, and gold
between every brick.
The tithes of the people made the Temple a very rich place.

The priests wore purple and drank from golden chalices adorned with
jewels, the people were even blessed with pearls, the pearls of Gods
word...and devoured widows with their greed.

Jerusalem was called a mother.
Jesus went to Jerusalem like a groom coming for His bride, but she
cast Him away...she was a harlot...His chosen people, harlots.

Mat 23:34-36 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes,
some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will flog in your
synagogues and persecute from town to town, so that on you may come ALL
THE RIGHTEOUS BLOOD SHED ON EARTH, from the blood of innocent Abel to
the blood of Zechariah the son of Barachiah, whom you murdered between
the sanctuary and the altar. Truly, I say to you, all these things will

come upon this generation...


Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints,
and of all who have been slain on earth."

What is described in Revelations of Babylon does not describe
Jerusalem of that day, by any means. The passage in Revelation
describes a condition in which the entire world economy will be
impacted by the destruction of that city.

By no stretch of the
imagination can a reasonable person make a sensible comparison between
Jerusalem and the Babylon of Revelation, unless of course one is
trying to squeeze scripture into their own personal, doctrinal PEZ
container. What is described of the Babylon of Revelation which is to
come can be found in Zephaniah:

NAS Zep 2:3 Seek the LORD, All you humble of the earth Who have
carried out His ordinances; Seek righteousness, seek humility. Perhaps
you will be hidden In the day of the LORD's anger.
4 For Gaza will be abandoned, And Ashkelon a desolation; Ashdod will
be driven out at noon, And Ekron will be uprooted.
5 Woe to the inhabitants of the seacoast, The nation of the
Cherethites! The word of the LORD is against you, O Canaan, land of
the Philistines; And I will destroy you, So that there will be no
inhabitant.
6 So the seacoast will be pastures, With caves for shepherds and
folds for flocks.
7 And the coast will be For the remnant of the house of Judah, They
will pasture on it. In the houses of Ashkelon they will lie down at
evening; For the LORD their God will care for them And restore their
fortune.
8 "I have heard the taunting of Moab And the revilings of the sons of
Ammon, With which they have taunted My people And become arrogant
against their territory.
9 "Therefore, as I live," declares the LORD of hosts, The God of
Israel, "Surely Moab will be like Sodom, And the sons of Ammon like
Gomorrah-- A place possessed by nettles and salt pits, And a perpetual
desolation. The remnant of My people will plunder them, And the
remainder of My nation will inherit them."
10 This they will have in return for their pride, because they have
taunted and become arrogant against the people of the LORD of hosts.
11 The LORD will be terrifying to them, for He will starve all the
gods of the earth; and all the coastlands of the nations will bow down
to Him, everyone from his own place.
12 "You also, O Ethiopians, will be slain by My sword."
13 And He will stretch out His hand against the north And destroy
Assyria, And He will make Nineveh a desolation, Parched like the
wilderness.
14 And flocks will lie down in her midst, All beasts which range in
herds; Both the pelican and the hedgehog Will lodge in the tops of her
pillars; Birds will sing in the window, Desolation will be on the
threshold; For He has laid bare the cedar work.
15 This is the exultant city Which dwells securely, Who says in her
heart, "I am, and there is no one besides me." How she has become a
desolation, A resting place for beasts! Everyone who passes by her
will hiss And wave his hand in contempt.

NAS Zephaniah 3:1 Woe to her who is rebellious and defiled, The
tyrannical city!
2 She heeded no voice; She accepted no instruction. She did not trust
in the LORD; She did not draw near to her God.
3 Her princes within her are roaring lions, Her judges are wolves at
evening; They leave nothing for the morning.
4 Her prophets are reckless, treacherous men; Her priests have
profaned the sanctuary. They have done violence to the law.
5 The LORD is righteous within her; He will do no injustice. Every
morning He brings His justice to light; He does not fail. But the
unjust knows no shame.
6 "I have cut off nations; Their corner towers are in ruins. I have
made their streets desolate, With no one passing by; Their cities are
laid waste, Without a man, without an inhabitant.

The Babylon in Revelations is used figuratively to represent
the world government and economy of these Last Days. What you and
Pastor Dave fail to understand in the passage in the 23rd chapter of
Matthew is the dual nature of the prophecy of Christ. While Christ is
indicting the entire "generation" of those who have slain and rejected
the prophets, from the earliest prophets, and Christ in the same
breath is intimating that after the day of Pentecost, this same
generation will behave in a like manner with the saints. The fact
that this prophecy has not seen its end is in verse 38 and 39 when he
declares the divorce of that generation in its rejection of him,
"Behold, your house is being left to you desolate," and the fact that
the Jewish people, on the whole, have not yet confessed "Blessed is He
who comes in the name of the Lord!"

NAS Mat 23:34 "Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise
men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of
them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to
city,
35 that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed
on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah,
the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the
altar.
36 "Truly I say to you, all these things shall come upon this
generation.
37 "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those
who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children
together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you
were unwilling.
38 "Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!
39 "For I say to you, from now on you shall not see Me until you say,
'Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!'"

To assign all of this to the lengthy siege of Jerusalem and
it's ultimate collapse is utter nonsense. You fail to understand the
nature of prophecy is my guess, and too, If Jerusalem were a necessary
and unparalleled port of commerce of particular impact and import in
that day, Tiberius would not have rendered it impotent.

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