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"SJAB1958" |
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20 Apr 2007 11:48:55 PM |
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Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
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| User: "Perplexed in Peoria" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 12:16:08 AM |
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"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
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| User: "JQ" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 12:41:44 AM |
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On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
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| User: "Perplexed in Peoria" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 12:56:46 AM |
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"JQ" <jacqui@writeme.com> wrote in message news:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
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| User: "SJAB1958" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 02:03:13 AM |
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On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
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| User: "Perplexed in Peoria" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 03:29:17 AM |
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"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1177138993.775415.94280@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
Isn't that what I just said? Wrong about one thing means you should be
wrong about everything to be 'consistent'? Believe one silly story,
and you should believe every silly story, otherwise snex and SJAB1958
will laugh at you. My, my. What absolutely convincing rhetoric. I'm
shocked that Christianity hasn't completely disappeared under the force
of your onslaught!
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| User: "SJAB1958" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 04:05:52 AM |
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On 21 Apr, 09:29, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177138993.775415.94280@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
Isn't that what I just said? Wrong about one thing means you should be
wrong about everything to be 'consistent'? Believe one silly story,
and you should believe every silly story, otherwise snex and SJAB1958
will laugh at you. My, my. What absolutely convincing rhetoric. I'm
shocked that Christianity hasn't completely disappeared under the force
of your onslaught!
The only person that mentioned anything about the Christians being
wrong is you.
I merely asked for the apparent contradiction to be cleared up.
There is quite a difference between what I said and how you have
interpreted it.
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| User: "snex" |
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21 Apr 2007 03:33:29 AM |
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On Apr 21, 3:29 am, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177138993.775415.94280@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
Isn't that what I just said? Wrong about one thing means you should be
wrong about everything to be 'consistent'? Believe one silly story,
and you should believe every silly story, otherwise snex and SJAB1958
will laugh at you. My, my. What absolutely convincing rhetoric. I'm
shocked that Christianity hasn't completely disappeared under the force
of your onslaught!
being proven inconsistent is indeed quite the onslaught. i suspect it
has produced most of the atheists at this forum.
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| User: "Perplexed in Peoria" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 11:28:29 AM |
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"snex" <snex@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1177144409.140592.110610@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 3:29 am, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177138993.775415.94280@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
Isn't that what I just said? Wrong about one thing means you should be
wrong about everything to be 'consistent'? Believe one silly story,
and you should believe every silly story, otherwise snex and SJAB1958
will laugh at you. My, my. What absolutely convincing rhetoric. I'm
shocked that Christianity hasn't completely disappeared under the force
of your onslaught!
being proven inconsistent is indeed quite the onslaught. i suspect it
has produced most of the atheists at this forum.
Well, we are in agreement on the subtext of that! Internal inconsistencies
are a much more compelling reason to reject a belief system than mere lack
of supporting evidence.
And that is where I came in. SJAB1958 suggested there was a logical
inconsistency. I pointed out that there isn't. He then took a step
back and claimed mere inconsistent weighting of the supporting evidence.
He can, if he wishes, debate that claim with a Christian. But it is a
weaker claim, and not necessarily a devastating one.
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| User: "SJAB1958" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 02:43:09 PM |
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On 21 Apr, 17:28, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"snex" <s...@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:1177144409.140592.110610@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 3:29 am, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177138993.775415.94280@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
Isn't that what I just said? Wrong about one thing means you should be
wrong about everything to be 'consistent'? Believe one silly story,
and you should believe every silly story, otherwise snex and SJAB1958
will laugh at you. My, my. What absolutely convincing rhetoric. I'm
shocked that Christianity hasn't completely disappeared under the force
of your onslaught!
being proven inconsistent is indeed quite the onslaught. i suspect it
has produced most of the atheists at this forum.
Well, we are in agreement on the subtext of that! Internal inconsistencies
are a much more compelling reason to reject a belief system than mere lack
of supporting evidence.
And that is where I came in. SJAB1958 suggested there was a logical
inconsistency. I pointed out that there isn't. He then took a step
back and claimed mere inconsistent weighting of the supporting evidence.
He can, if he wishes, debate that claim with a Christian. But it is a
weaker claim, and not necessarily a devastating one.
I am not moving my position I was attempting to clarify it after you
misinterpreted it, and now you are misinterpreting my postings again.
Why do you persist in doing this?
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| User: "snex" |
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21 Apr 2007 03:13:56 PM |
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On Apr 21, 11:28 am, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"snex" <s...@comcast.net> wrote in messagenews:1177144409.140592.110610@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 3:29 am, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177138993.775415.94280@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
Isn't that what I just said? Wrong about one thing means you should be
wrong about everything to be 'consistent'? Believe one silly story,
and you should believe every silly story, otherwise snex and SJAB1958
will laugh at you. My, my. What absolutely convincing rhetoric. I'm
shocked that Christianity hasn't completely disappeared under the force
of your onslaught!
being proven inconsistent is indeed quite the onslaught. i suspect it
has produced most of the atheists at this forum.
Well, we are in agreement on the subtext of that! Internal inconsistencies
are a much more compelling reason to reject a belief system than mere lack
of supporting evidence.
And that is where I came in. SJAB1958 suggested there was a logical
inconsistency. I pointed out that there isn't. He then took a step
back and claimed mere inconsistent weighting of the supporting evidence.
He can, if he wishes, debate that claim with a Christian. But it is a
weaker claim, and not necessarily a devastating one.
but there is a logical inconsistency. the christian says that "x is
sufficient evidence to believe y" but refuses to accept z, when x also
implies z. it is inconsistent to claim that x is sufficient to believe
only a subset of the things it implies.
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| User: "Vend" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
22 Apr 2007 08:18:27 AM |
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On 21 Apr, 09:03, SJAB1958 <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 21 Apr, 06:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Did I say anything about Christains being wrong about anything? No, I
didnt.
I am questioning why they believe the impregnation of Mary by their
God is a true historical event, but they reject the idea that other
accounts exist of non-Christian gods doing exactly the same thing with
other mortal women.
For if one account can be considered true without any solid evidence
to support it, you should consider all such accounts true.
On the other hand if all the other accounts are mere stories because
there is no solid evidence for them, the the Biblical account should
also be considered a mere story.
I think that this is equivalent to asking why Greeks belived that Zeus
and not Thor was the god of thunder.
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| User: "Vend" |
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22 Apr 2007 07:44:58 AM |
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On 21 Apr, 07:56, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
Ex falso quodlibet :D
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21 Apr 2007 01:02:59 AM |
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On Apr 21, 12:56 am, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"JQ" <jac...@writeme.com> wrote in messagenews:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
SJAB1958 seems to be suggesting that since Christians are wrong about
one thing, it would only be consistent for them to be wrong about everything.
actually hes suggesting that they are hypocrites because they rightly
scoff at the silly tales of other religions, but pretend the tales of
their own arent silly.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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21 Apr 2007 10:12:44 AM |
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"JQ" <jacqui@writeme.com> wrote in message news:1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
You are changing the question from whether there is a contradiction in
Christian belief to whether there is evidence. Personally, I don't know
of any evidence, hence I am not a Christian. But that doesn't mean that
I think Christianity is self-contradictory.
===>The history of Christianity and its constant production of newer
sects, seen by others as "heresies", is living proof of the internal
contradictions in it.
THE LAW OF SECTS:
"FOR EVERY SECTARIAN DOCTRINE THERE IS AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE
SECTARIAN DOCTRINE -- EACH CLAIMED TO BE BASED ON THE BIBLE." -- L.
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 12:56:34 PM |
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In article <1177134104.886976.265880@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
JQ <jacqui@writeme.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
*
Dr. Prof. Rev. Lenny Flank's pizza delivery boy told him so.
earle
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| User: "Bob Jenkins" |
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21 Apr 2007 01:07:11 AM |
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On Apr 20, 10:41 pm, JQ <jac...@writeme.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
He gave the right answer. The original poster asked why Christians
were happy with it (Christians usually believe that Yahweh is real and
the other gods are all myth).
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| User: "Ron O" |
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21 Apr 2007 06:52:05 AM |
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On Apr 21, 12:41 am, JQ <jac...@writeme.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
Genesis 6:1-4. The Bible has an account as plain as the recitation of
the patriarchs that there were other gods that were around and liked
human women and produced the "heroes of old, warriors of renown." The
half gods were not given names, presumably, because everyone knew who
they were. So other gods are real too by the same evidence. Biblical
scholars are pretty much in agreement about the acknowldegment of
polytheism in the Bible.
For those that don't have a Bible handy:
When mankind began to increase and to spread all over the earth and
daughters were born to them, the sons of the gods saw that the
daughters of men were beautiful; so they took for themselves such
women as they chose. But the Lord said, "My life-giving spirit shall
not remain in man for ever; he for his part is mortal flesh: he shall
live for a hundred and twenty years." In those days when the sons of
the gods had intercourse with the daughters of men and got children by
them, the Nephilim were on earth. They were the heroes of old, men of
renown.
Ron Okimoto
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| User: "prospero33" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 09:21:44 AM |
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On Apr 21, 12:41 am, JQ <jac...@writeme.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
It's really quite simple and logical. I tell you that the Christian
God is real and the others mere fabrication. If after vigorous debate
you don't come to see my point, I kill you.
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
22 Apr 2007 12:09:06 PM |
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In article <1177165304.284230.79040@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
prospero33 <conrad.geller@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 12:41 am, JQ <jac...@writeme.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
<snip>
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
It's really quite simple and logical. I tell you that the Christian
God is real and the others mere fabrication. If after vigorous debate
you don't come to see my point, I kill you.
That is a very effective way of spreading the faith. It worked for
Christianity, and Islam for sure. Sometime exile was offered, or
acceptance of grossly inferior status.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 09:37:51 AM |
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On Apr 21, 1:41 am, JQ <jac...@writeme.com> wrote:
On Apr 21, 2:16 pm, "Perplexed in Peoria" <jimmene...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balf...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
How figure? I mean, what evidence suggests that your god is more real
than all the other gods?
Maybe he just doesn't give his real name "just in case". Cuts down on
paternity suits.
Mark Evans
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 10:09:20 AM |
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Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
===>Those "other gods" are as "real" to others as "Yahweh" is to you.
All gods exist only in the minds of believers, where they are created
by human imagination. -- L.
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| User: "Earle Jones" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 12:59:31 PM |
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In article <qJadnZZYO_C8tLfbnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@comcast.com>,
Libertarius <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
===>Those "other gods" are as "real" to others as "Yahweh" is to you.
All gods exist only in the minds of believers, where they are created
by human imagination. -- L.
*
Right!
"Man created God in his own image."
--Marvin 3:16
earle
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 04:58:16 PM |
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"Earle Jones" <earle.jones@comcast.net> wrote in message news:earle.jones-C02089.10593121042007@netnews.comcast.net...
In article <qJadnZZYO_C8tLfbnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@comcast.com>,
Libertarius <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
===>Those "other gods" are as "real" to others as "Yahweh" is to you.
All gods exist only in the minds of believers, where they are created
by human imagination. -- L.
*
Right!
"Man created God in his own image."
--Marvin 3:16 <=== Marvin is not God, and here seems to be a jerk.
Are you going to follow a jerk?
-- +Sig+
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
22 Apr 2007 12:11:26 PM |
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In article <qJadnZZYO_C8tLfbnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@comcast.com>,
Libertarius <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
===>Those "other gods" are as "real" to others as "Yahweh" is to you.
All gods exist only in the minds of believers, where they are created
by human imagination. -- L.
And that is the glory of Gods. In the best one can create a Deity with
the attributes one want to strive for and then try to embody the God.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 10:19:22 AM |
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:09:20 -0700, in talk.origins
Libertarius <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in
<qJadnZZYO_C8tLfbnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d@comcast.com>:
Perplexed in Peoria wrote:
"SJAB1958" <balfres@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1177130935.498364.147830@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I find it odd that Christians can be perfectly happy with a
manifestation of God, the Holy Spirit joining with Mary to producing
Jesus (God made flesh).
Yet those same Christians dismiss as mere mythology any account of a
god joining with a woman and children being born of such unions.
Can anyone explain this apparently contradictory thinking, or should I
chalk it up to Orwellian DoubleThink?
What is to explain? Those other gods are myth. Yahweh is real. No
contradiction.
HTH.
===>Those "other gods" are as "real" to others as "Yahweh" is to you.
All gods exist only in the minds of believers, where they are created
by human imagination. -- L.
You may say that, Perplexed may know that, but that isn't the
explanation that believers give.
The most important god to many Christians is the Devil, yet the are so
obsessed with their religious doctrines that they refuse to even admit
that Satan is a god.
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 10:45:29 AM |
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:joak23tdkuv3n9v2e1jben69c9do3opcnt@4ax.com...
The most important god to many Christians is the Devil, yet the are so
obsessed with their religious doctrines that they refuse to even admit
that Satan is a god.
Nope!
Satan is a created being, was an archangel, but lost his authority,
he has been defeated at the Cross, and his time is very short.
Maranatha!
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 03:54:12 PM |
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Melchizedek wrote:
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:joak23tdkuv3n9v2e1jben69c9do3opcnt@4ax.com...
The most important god to many Christians is the Devil, yet the are so
obsessed with their religious doctrines that they refuse to even admit
that Satan is a god.
Nope!
Satan is a created being, was an archangel, but lost his authority,
he has been defeated at the Cross, and his time is very short.
Maranatha!
===>WOW!
That "defeated" being is still said to be in full control of this planet!
You guys are so credulous, gullible! ;-) -- L.
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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21 Apr 2007 04:54:56 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message news:FaOdndLM555o5LfbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:joak23tdkuv3n9v2e1jben69c9do3opcnt@4ax.com...
The most important god to many Christians is the Devil, yet the are so
obsessed with their religious doctrines that they refuse to even admit
that Satan is a god.
Nope!
Satan is a created being, was an archangel, but lost his authority,
he has been defeated at the Cross, and his time is very short.
Maranatha!
===>WOW!
That "defeated" being is still said to be in full control of this planet!
You guys are so credulous, gullible! ;-) -- L.
Yep! For a season, only, but his time is short.
-- +Sig+
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pearls before swine, lest they trample them under foot and
turn to attack you. "(Matthew 7:6 RSV)
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will be false teachers among you. They will secretly bring in
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will bring swift destruction on themselves (2 Peter 2:1).
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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22 Apr 2007 11:01:34 AM |
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Melchizedek wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message news:FaOdndLM555o5LfbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:joak23tdkuv3n9v2e1jben69c9do3opcnt@4ax.com...
The most important god to many Christians is the Devil, yet the are so
obsessed with their religious doctrines that they refuse to even admit
that Satan is a god.
Nope!
Satan is a created being, was an archangel, but lost his authority,
he has been defeated at the Cross, and his time is very short.
Maranatha!
===>WOW!
That "defeated" being is still said to be in full control of this planet!
You guys are so credulous, gullible! ;-) -- L.
Yep! For a season, only, but his time is short.
===>Oh, yeah! Just wait a few more millennia.
By then there will be no "Satan".
Because people will abandon any belief in such nonsense. -- L.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Deity/Human Interaction = Special Babies |
21 Apr 2007 05:27:43 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:54:56 -0400, in talk.origins
"Melchizedek" <info@bibleweb.info> wrote in
<rKvWh.7660$Zm3.3333@bignews1.bellsouth.net>:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message news:FaOdndLM555o5LfbnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Melchizedek wrote:
"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message news:joak23tdkuv3n9v2e1jben69c9do3opcnt@4ax.com...
The most important god to many Christians is the Devil, yet the are so
obsessed with their religious doctrines that they refuse to even admit
that Satan is a god.
Nope!
Satan is a created being, was an archangel, but lost his authority,
he has been defeated at the Cross, and his time is very short.
Maranatha!
===>WOW!
That "defeated" being is still said to be in full control of this planet!
You guys are so credulous, gullible! ;-) -- L.
Yep! For a season, only, but his time is short.
So people claim, yet Satan is still asserted to be the most active god
in the Christian pantheon.
Please fix your messed up sig.
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