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"guardian Snow" |
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27 Dec 2007 11:16:22 PM |
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Demons, Schism |
I thought this post was particularly important so I'm reposting it so
it doesn't get lost in the blur between the cut and paste of Mark T's
post that I typically skip past.
That is a good question and one I was hoping to answer today in a
different way. Keep in mind I'm glad that you continue to post to me
but you have a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't
speak to you directly.
Joh 7:43 So a division* came about among the people because of Him.
*schisma
skhis'-mah
=46rom G4977; a split or gap (=E2=80=9Cschism=E2=80=9D), literally or figura=
tively: -
division, rent, schism.
Schism
SCHISM, n. 1. In a general sense, division or separation; but
appropriately, a division or separation in a church or denomination of
christians, occasioned by diversity of opinions; breach of unity among
people of the same religious faith.
A better question is to identify what is a demon.
Act 5:3 But K=C4=95pha said, =E2=80=9CHananyah, why has Satan filled your he=
art to
lie to the Set-apart Spirit and keep back from the price of the land
for yourself?
A demon is a spirit that lies to us just as in this example from Acts
5. Hananyah was demonically possessed. A demon comes to create
division amongst us. Here is a fact, we are all descendants of Adam
and Eve and so we are all brothers. Yes, Mr. Tindall, even you are my
brother and while you may not identify yourself as such because of our
different beliefs, I have no reason to think any less of you. I'm sure
you'll continue to try but even your evil prayers are of no effect to
me.
Luk 21:10 Then He said to them, =E2=80=9CNation shall rise against nation, a=
nd
reign against reign.
One of the greatest demons that has possessed the world with a spirit
of a lie is the one I call, "Brother P" and it is the spirit of
labeling people for the sake of creating division. You call me a
"Yank" but really thats just a label you use to hide your fears and
the demon that hides in you.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name,
there am I in the midst of them.
Other labels people use and there are many.. and they are all equally
wrong don't just include nationality but race, religion and political
labels. They are all schisms to create division amongst us and this in
fact denies us our true power of working together as brother and
sisters. The demons want to create and will create schisms to pick us
off one at a time, to divide and conquer.
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three.
We know this demon is going to grow in power because of the prophesies
by the Messiah but in the aspect of spiritual warfare, we can identify
this spirit and remove it from our midst with prayer and fasting.
Shalom,
Snow
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against? I have. I've been
protested and demonstrated against. Picket signs for my wicked rhymes,
Look at the times.
Eminem
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| User: "Mark T moi@home000whatever146" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
28 Dec 2007 03:36:35 PM |
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"guardian Snow" <snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important
I didn't.
PLONK!
--
DISTINGUISHING FEATURES OF A CHRISTUS OBNOXIUM
.... quoting from James Barr's book "Fundamentalism" on the three
distinguishing features of the Fundamentalist:
'Firstly, a fundamentalist has a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of
the Bible, and believes in the absence from it of any sort of error.
Two, a strong hostility to modern theology and to the method, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible.
And three, an assurance that those who do not share their religious
viewpoint are not really true Christians at all.'
Peter Cameron "Heretic" (Doubleday; Sydney: 1994) p. 178
--
My Blog - MARK T - my thoughts on Christianity & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
FUNDY FUNHOUSE -
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
- a resource on the current Fundamentalist Dark Age and Christian
fundamentalism.
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
28 Dec 2007 10:11:31 PM |
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On Dec 29, 8:36 am, "Mark T" <moi@home000whatever146> wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important
I didn't.
PLONK!
The only thing I can tell you serve is yourself. From what I've seen
your a humanist and you think of yourself as a God. I'd like you to
stop being a coward and just tell me outright.. not in a cut and
paste, what your statement of faith is.
Shalom,
Snow
If we all worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true is
really true, there would be little hope of advance.
Orville Wright
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| User: "Mark T moi@home000whatever151" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
28 Dec 2007 11:34:25 PM |
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"guardian Snow" <snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important
I didn't.
PLONK!
The only thing I can tell you is serve yourself.
"Serve Yourself" - John Lennon
You say you found Jesus. Christ!
He's the only one
....
Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
......
You got to serve yourself
nobody gonna do for you
....
Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in laws
But if you don't go out and serve yourself, la, ain't no room service here
It's still the same old story
A bloody Holy War
I fight for love and glory
Ain't gonna study war no more
I fight for God and country
We're gonna set you free
or put you back in the Stone Age
If you won't be like me - y'get it?
....
'But Christ, you're gonna have to serve yourself and that's all there is to
it.
So get right back here it's in the bloody fridge. God, when I was a kid.
Didn't have stuff like this, TV-fuckin' dinners and all that crap.
You fuckin' kids (are) all the fuckin' same! Want a fuckin' car now...
Lucky to have a pair of shoes!'
....
Ain't nobody gonna do for you ('that's right, la, you better get that
straight
in your fuckin' head')
You gotta serve yourself ('you know that, who else is gonna do it for you,
it ain't me, kid, I tell you that')
Well, you may believe in Jesus, and you may believe in Marx
And you may believe in Marks and Spencer's and you maybe believe in bloody
Woolworths
But there's something missing in this whole bloody stew
....
If you won't be like me, you know, get down on your knees and pray
.....
--
My Blog - MARK T - my thoughts on Christianity & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
FUNDY FUNHOUSE -
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
- a resource on the current Fundamentalist Dark Age and Christian
fundamentalism.
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
29 Dec 2007 12:25:54 AM |
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On Dec 29, 4:34 pm, "Mark T" <moi@home000whatever151> wrote:
"guardian Snow" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important
I didn't.
PLONK!
The only thing I can tell you is serve yourself.
"Serve Yourself" - John Lennon
You say you found Jesus. Christ!
He's the only one
...
Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
.....
You got to serve yourself
nobody gonna do for you
...
Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in laws
But if you don't go out and serve yourself, la, ain't no room service here
It's still the same old story
A bloody Holy War
I fight for love and glory
Ain't gonna study war no more
I fight for God and country
We're gonna set you free
or put you back in the Stone Age
If you won't be like me - y'get it?
...
'But Christ, you're gonna have to serve yourself and that's all there is to
it.
So get right back here it's in the bloody fridge. God, when I was a kid.
Didn't have stuff like this, TV-fuckin' dinners and all that crap.
You fuckin' kids (are) all the fuckin' same! Want a fuckin' car now...
Lucky to have a pair of shoes!'
...
Ain't nobody gonna do for you ('that's right, la, you better get that
straight
in your fuckin' head')
You gotta serve yourself ('you know that, who else is gonna do it for you,
it ain't me, kid, I tell you that')
Well, you may believe in Jesus, and you may believe in Marx
And you may believe in Marks and Spencer's and you maybe believe in bloody
Woolworths
But there's something missing in this whole bloody stew
...
If you won't be like me, you know, get down on your knees and pray
Thats all fine and I give John Lennon credit for at least having the
kohona's to tell the world what he believes but what do you believe.
Spare me the line about how your Christian because, anybody thats read
two words you posted, knows thats a lie.
Shalom,
Snow
Be courageous. I have seen many depressions in business. Always
America has emerged from these stronger and more prosperous. Be brave
as your fathers before you. Have faith! Go forward!
Thomas A. Edison
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| User: "Mark T moi@home000whatever154" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
29 Dec 2007 01:20:35 AM |
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"guardian Snow" <snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote:
Er ... WHAT are you guarding??? .... Your stupidity????
The only thing I can tell you is serve yourself.
"Serve Yourself" - John Lennon
You say you found Jesus. Christ!
He's the only one
...
Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
.....
You got to serve yourself
nobody gonna do for you
...
Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in laws
But if you don't go out and serve yourself, la, ain't no room service
here
It's still the same old story
A bloody Holy War
I fight for love and glory
Ain't gonna study war no more
I fight for God and country
We're gonna set you free
or put you back in the Stone Age
If you won't be like me - y'get it?
...
'But Christ, you're gonna have to serve yourself and that's all there is
to
it.
So get right back here it's in the bloody fridge. God, when I was a kid.
Didn't have stuff like this, TV-fuckin' dinners and all that crap.
You fuckin' kids (are) all the fuckin' same! Want a fuckin' car now...
Lucky to have a pair of shoes!'
...
Ain't nobody gonna do for you ('that's right, la, you better get that
straight
in your fuckin' head')
You gotta serve yourself ('you know that, who else is gonna do it for
you,
it ain't me, kid, I tell you that')
Well, you may believe in Jesus, and you may believe in Marx
And you may believe in Marks and Spencer's and you maybe believe in
bloody
Woolworths
But there's something missing in this whole bloody stew
...
If you won't be like me, you know, get down on your knees and pray
Thats all fine
--
DISTINGUISHING FEATURES OF A CHRISTUS OBNOXIUM
.... quoting from James Barr's book "Fundamentalism" on the three
distinguishing features of the Fundamentalist:
'Firstly, a fundamentalist has a very strong emphasis on the inerrancy of
the Bible, and believes in the absence from it of any sort of error.
Two, a strong hostility to modern theology and to the method, results and
implications of modern critical study of the Bible.
And three, an assurance that those who do not share their religious
viewpoint are not really true Christians at all.'
Peter Cameron "Heretic" (Doubleday; Sydney: 1994) p. 178
--
My Blog - MARK T - my thoughts on Christianity & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
FUNDY FUNHOUSE -
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
- a resource on the current Fundamentalist Dark Age and Christian
fundamentalism.
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
29 Dec 2007 02:19:24 AM |
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On Dec 29, 6:20 pm, "Mark T" <moi@home000whatever154> wrote:
"guardian Snow" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Psa 19:7 The Torah of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is perfect, bringing back the=
being; The
witness of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is trustworthy, making wise the simple;
Psa 19:8 The orders of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are straight, rejoicing the =
heart; The
command of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clear, enlightening the eyes;
Psa 19:9 The fear of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clean, standing forever; Th=
e right-
rulings of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are true, They are righteous altogether,=
Psa 19:10 More desirable than gold, Than much fine gold; And sweeter
than honey and the honeycomb.
Er ... WHAT are you guarding??? .... Your stupidity????
Psa 19:11 Also, Your servant is warned by them, In guarding them there
is great reward.
So, what are you guarding that your to cowardly to just make a
statement of your faith?
Shalom,
Snow
How is it they live in such harmony the billions of stars - when most
men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about
someone they know.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
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| User: "Mark T moi@home000whatever157" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
29 Dec 2007 04:57:43 PM |
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"guardian Snow" <snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote:
Er ... WHAT are you guarding??? .... Your stupidity????
....
In guarding them there is great reward.
A distinguishing feature of the Fundamentalist is "an assurance that those
who do not share their religious viewpoint are not really true Christians at
all."
Therefore, according to guardian Snore ...er ... Snow, if a Christian does
not believe exactly as he / she / it believes then that person is not a
"Trew Kristyun".
Guardian Snow is an ignorant little person.
--
A Trew Kristyun is a deranged individual living in the current
Fundamentalist Dark Age who believes:
- The One God Yahweh is really three gods.
- Jesus, a finite Jew from Nazareth, is the infinite One God Yahweh
- A human sacrifice was required by God because God needs blood, gore and
guts in order to forgive sins.
- The Bible, a collection of fallible ancient Near Eastern books / letters /
myths, is "God's word" and inerrant
--
My Blog - MARK T - my thoughts on Christianity & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
FUNDY FUNHOUSE -
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
- a resource on the current Fundamentalist Dark Age and Christian
fundamentalism.
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "Mark T moi@home000whatever155" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
29 Dec 2007 04:19:58 PM |
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"guardian Snow" <snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote:
Er ... WHAT are you guarding??? .... Your stupidity????
....
Snow
Oh, a snow job.
--
"I believe that the Goths spoke like that ... and if God wished us to speak
through our backsides we should speak like that too." - Rabelais (Gargantua
& Pantagruel)
--
My Blog - MARK T - my thoughts on Christianity & links
http://www.blognow.com.au/strooth/
FUNDY FUNHOUSE -
http://fundamentalistfunhouse.blogspot.com/
- a resource on the current Fundamentalist Dark Age and Christian
fundamentalism.
My Soundclick Page - download my original songs in mp3 format
http://www.soundclick.com/marktindall
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| User: "Linda Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
29 Dec 2007 04:41:44 AM |
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On Dec 29, 3:19 am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 29, 6:20 pm, "Mark T" <moi@home000whatever154> wrote:
"guardian Snow" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Psa 19:7 The Torah of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is perfect, bringing back t=
he being; The
witness of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is trustworthy, making wise the simple=
;
Psa 19:8 The orders of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are straight, rejoicing th=
e heart; The
command of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clear, enlightening the eyes;
Psa 19:9 The fear of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clean, standing forever; =
The right-
rulings of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are true, They are righteous altogethe=
r,
Psa 19:10 More desirable than gold, Than much fine gold; And sweeter
than honey and the honeycomb.
Er ... WHAT are you guarding??? .... Your stupidity????
Psa 19:11 Also, Your servant is warned by them, In guarding them there
is great reward.
So, what are you guarding that your to cowardly to just make a
statement of your faith?
Shalom,
Snow
How is it they live in such harmony the billions of stars - when most
men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about
someone they know.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
Mark isn't really sure of what he believes, except what **God can't**
do, according to the gospel of Mark T.
You've chosen an interesting nic for yourself. See the verse you cited
(below in the KJV), and notice that the word 'keeping' (or guarding)
is Heb. 8104.
Psa 19:11 Moreover1571 by them is thy servant5650 warned:2094 and in
keeping8104 of them there is great7227 reward.6118
Heb. 8104 is the root form of the word translated below as 'watches'.
Ps. 63:6 says of God, =E2=80=9CI remember thee upon my bed, and meditate on
thee in the night watches.=E2=80=9D He is remembering and thinking of God
while =E2=80=98watching=E2=80=99 i.e. lying on his bed, awake, and in stilln=
ess.
Ps. 119:146-148 says, =E2=80=9CI cried unto thee; save me, and I shall keep
thy testimonies =E2=80=A6I hoped in thy word. Mine eyes prevent the night
watches, that I might meditate in thy word.=E2=80=9D His =E2=80=9Ceyes preve=
nt the =E2=80=A6
watches=E2=80=9D because he has fallen asleep, being unable to keep awake so=
that he can watch and meditate =E2=80=9Cin thy word=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 =E2=
=80=9Cthe Word=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 Yeshua`.
The word translated in both of these Scriptures as =E2=80=98watches=E2=80=99=
=E2=80=93 Heb.
821 =E2=80=93 means a night watch. In its root form =E2=80=93 Heb. 8104 =E2=
=80=93 it means
properly to hedge about (as with thorns), i.e., guard; generally to
protect, attend to, etc.
Laying in stillness and =E2=80=98watching=E2=80=99 for God surrounds us with=
protection.
Here Heb. 8104 is translated "wait": Prov. 8:34-35 "Blessed is the
man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, ***waiting*** at the
posts of my doors. For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain
favor of the LORD."
Yeshua` on the subject of watching:
In Rev. 3:1-3 the Messiah says to the people in a church in Sardis, =E2=80=
=9C=E2=80=A6
I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art
dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are
ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast,
and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as
a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.=E2=80=9D
Yeshua` is warning those in this church that they could have eternal
life (=E2=80=9Cthou hast a name that thou livest=E2=80=9D), but they are in =
danger of
death because they refuse to repent and watch (=E2=80=9CIf =E2=80=A6thou sha=
lt not
watch=E2=80=9D). They are to repent of not watching and begin watching in
prayer if they want to live eternally. If they do not repent and begin
praying in that manner, their living name (their immortal spirit) will
die.
In Mark 13:33, the Messiah tells them to pay attention to his warning,
saying, =E2=80=9CTake ye heed, watch and pray=E2=80=9D.
In this instance, the word translated =E2=80=98watch=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Gk. =
69 =E2=80=93 means to be
sleepless, i.e. keep awake. It is from two words, one a negative
particle (meaning =E2=80=98not=E2=80=99) and the other =E2=80=93 Gk. 5258 =
=E2=80=93 is defined as
=E2=80=9Csleep, i.e. (figuratively) spiritual torpor=E2=80=9D [stupor]; and =
is
=E2=80=9Cperhaps akin=E2=80=9D to Heb. 5259 indicating a specifically covert=
ly
[hidden] and especially inferior position or condition.
Those who =E2=80=98watch=E2=80=99, as the Messiah directs us to do, will not=
be in an
inferior condition of spiritual stupor, which remains hidden from
those in that state. To neglect to watch keeps you in a condition of
spiritual stupor, a sleep that consigns your spirit to death and
nonexistence.
Watch in stillness in the name of Yeshua` to be literally roused from
death and avoid the second death of the soul, which is the
nonexistence caused by the death of the spirit.
There's lots more from Yeshua` on watching, but I just thought you
might find this interesting.
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
29 Dec 2007 05:10:51 AM |
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On Dec 29, 9:41 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
On Dec 29, 3:19 am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 29, 6:20 pm, "Mark T" <moi@home000whatever154> wrote:
"guardian Snow" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Psa 19:7 The Torah of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is perfect, bringing back=
the being; The
witness of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is trustworthy, making wise the simp=
le;
Psa 19:8 The orders of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are straight, rejoicing =
the heart; The
command of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clear, enlightening the eyes;
Psa 19:9 The fear of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clean, standing forever=
; The right-
rulings of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are true, They are righteous altoget=
her,
Psa 19:10 More desirable than gold, Than much fine gold; And sweeter
than honey and the honeycomb.
Er ... WHAT are you guarding??? .... Your stupidity????
Psa 19:11 Also, Your servant is warned by them, In guarding them there
is great reward.
So, what are you guarding that your to cowardly to just make a
statement of your faith?
Shalom,
Snow
How is it they live in such harmony the billions of stars - when most
men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about
someone they know.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
Mark isn't really sure of what he believes, except what **God can't**
do, according to the gospel of Mark T.
You've chosen an interesting nic for yourself. See the verse you cited
(below in the KJV), and notice that the word 'keeping' (or guarding)
is Heb. 8104.
Psa 19:11 Moreover1571 by them is thy servant5650 warned:2094 and in
keeping8104 of them there is great7227 reward.6118
Heb. 8104 is the root form of the word translated below as 'watches'.
Ps. 63:6 says of God, =E2=80=9CI remember thee upon my bed, and meditate o=
n
thee in the night watches.=E2=80=9D He is remembering and thinking of God
while =E2=80=98watching=E2=80=99 i.e. lying on his bed, awake, and in stil=
lness.
Ps. 119:146-148 says, =E2=80=9CI cried unto thee; save me, and I shall kee=
p
thy testimonies =E2=80=A6I hoped in thy word. Mine eyes prevent the night
watches, that I might meditate in thy word.=E2=80=9D His =E2=80=9Ceyes pre=
vent the =E2=80=A6
watches=E2=80=9D because he has fallen asleep, being unable to keep awake =
so
that he can watch and meditate =E2=80=9Cin thy word=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 =E2=
=80=9Cthe Word=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 Yeshua`.
The word translated in both of these Scriptures as =E2=80=98watches=E2=80=
=99 =E2=80=93 Heb.
821 =E2=80=93 means a night watch. In its root form =E2=80=93 Heb. 8104 =
=E2=80=93 it means
properly to hedge about (as with thorns), i.e., guard; generally to
protect, attend to, etc.
Laying in stillness and =E2=80=98watching=E2=80=99 for God surrounds us wi=
th
protection.
Here Heb. 8104 is translated "wait": Prov. 8:34-35 "Blessed is the
man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, ***waiting*** at the
posts of my doors. For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain
favor of the LORD."
Yeshua` on the subject of watching:
In Rev. 3:1-3 the Messiah says to the people in a church in Sardis, =E2=80=
=9C=E2=80=A6
I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art
dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are
ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast,
and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as
a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.=E2=80=9D=
Yeshua` is warning those in this church that they could have eternal
life (=E2=80=9Cthou hast a name that thou livest=E2=80=9D), but they are i=
n danger of
death because they refuse to repent and watch (=E2=80=9CIf =E2=80=A6thou s=
halt not
watch=E2=80=9D). They are to repent of not watching and begin watching in
prayer if they want to live eternally. If they do not repent and begin
praying in that manner, their living name (their immortal spirit) will
die.
In Mark 13:33, the Messiah tells them to pay attention to his warning,
saying, =E2=80=9CTake ye heed, watch and pray=E2=80=9D.
In this instance, the word translated =E2=80=98watch=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Gk=
.. 69 =E2=80=93 means to be
sleepless, i.e. keep awake. It is from two words, one a negative
particle (meaning =E2=80=98not=E2=80=99) and the other =E2=80=93 Gk. 5258 =
=E2=80=93 is defined as
=E2=80=9Csleep, i.e. (figuratively) spiritual torpor=E2=80=9D [stupor]; an=
d is
=E2=80=9Cperhaps akin=E2=80=9D to Heb. 5259 indicating a specifically cove=
rtly
[hidden] and especially inferior position or condition.
Those who =E2=80=98watch=E2=80=99, as the Messiah directs us to do, will n=
ot be in an
inferior condition of spiritual stupor, which remains hidden from
those in that state. To neglect to watch keeps you in a condition of
spiritual stupor, a sleep that consigns your spirit to death and
nonexistence.
Watch in stillness in the name of Yeshua` to be literally roused from
death and avoid the second death of the soul, which is the
nonexistence caused by the death of the spirit.
There's lots more from Yeshua` on watching, but I just thought you
might find this interesting.
You know, I find it interesting that of all the people here, we don't
really consider ourselves to be "Christian", but we love Yeshua and we
stand by guarding his words and we treasure them. It's my
inspiration, Psalm 19. It means the a lot that you totally understood
why I have taken this name for myself.
While I believe it is a given we can't "keep" the entire law, we can
guard his truth and write it on our hearts.
Deu 4:9 =E2=80=9COnly, guard yourself, and guard your life diligently, lest
you forget the Words your eyes have seen, and lest they turn aside
from your heart all the days of your life. And you shall make them
known to your children and your grandchildren.
It's one of the reasons I've enjoyed this version of scriptures so
much.
http://www.isr-messianic.org/
That and I enjoy seeing the creators name =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94, in it's =
original
Hebrew writing. The title lord gets used for all sorts of things and
doesn't distinguish the creator.
Shalom,
Snow
Law; an ordinance of reason for the common good, made by him who has
care of the community.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
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29 Dec 2007 06:13:03 AM |
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On Dec 29, 6:10 am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 29, 9:41 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
On Dec 29, 3:19 am, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 29, 6:20 pm, "Mark T" <moi@home000whatever154> wrote:
"guardian Snow" <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
Psa 19:7 The Torah of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is perfect, bringing ba=
ck the being; The
witness of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is trustworthy, making wise the si=
mple;
Psa 19:8 The orders of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are straight, rejoicin=
g the heart; The
command of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clear, enlightening the eyes;
Psa 19:9 The fear of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 is clean, standing forev=
er; The right-
rulings of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 are true, They are righteous altog=
ether,
Psa 19:10 More desirable than gold, Than much fine gold; And sweeter
than honey and the honeycomb.
Er ... WHAT are you guarding??? .... Your stupidity????
Psa 19:11 Also, Your servant is warned by them, In guarding them there=
is great reward.
So, what are you guarding that your to cowardly to just make a
statement of your faith?
Shalom,
Snow
How is it they live in such harmony the billions of stars - when most
men can barely go a minute without declaring war in their minds about
someone they know.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
Mark isn't really sure of what he believes, except what **God can't**
do, according to the gospel of Mark T.
You've chosen an interesting nic for yourself. See the verse you cited
(below in the KJV), and notice that the word 'keeping' (or guarding)
is Heb. 8104.
Psa 19:11 Moreover1571 by them is thy servant5650 warned:2094 and in
keeping8104 of them there is great7227 reward.6118
Heb. 8104 is the root form of the word translated below as 'watches'.
Ps. 63:6 says of God, =E2=80=9CI remember thee upon my bed, and meditate=
on
thee in the night watches.=E2=80=9D He is remembering and thinking of Go=
d
while =E2=80=98watching=E2=80=99 i.e. lying on his bed, awake, and in st=
illness.
Ps. 119:146-148 says, =E2=80=9CI cried unto thee; save me, and I shall k=
eep
thy testimonies =E2=80=A6I hoped in thy word. Mine eyes prevent the nigh=
t
watches, that I might meditate in thy word.=E2=80=9D His =E2=80=9Ceyes p=
revent the =E2=80=A6
watches=E2=80=9D because he has fallen asleep, being unable to keep awak=
e so
that he can watch and meditate =E2=80=9Cin thy word=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 =
=E2=80=9Cthe Word=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 Yeshua`.
The word translated in both of these Scriptures as =E2=80=98watches=E2=
=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb.
821 =E2=80=93 means a night watch. In its root form =E2=80=93 Heb. 8104 =
=E2=80=93 it means
properly to hedge about (as with thorns), i.e., guard; generally to
protect, attend to, etc.
Laying in stillness and =E2=80=98watching=E2=80=99 for God surrounds us =
with
protection.
Here Heb. 8104 is translated "wait": Prov. 8:34-35 "Blessed is the
man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, ***waiting*** at the
posts of my doors. For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain
favor of the LORD."
Yeshua` on the subject of watching:
In Rev. 3:1-3 the Messiah says to the people in a church in Sardis, =E2=
=80=9C=E2=80=A6
I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art
dead. Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are
ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast,
and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as
a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.=E2=80=
=9D
Yeshua` is warning those in this church that they could have eternal
life (=E2=80=9Cthou hast a name that thou livest=E2=80=9D), but they are=
in danger of
death because they refuse to repent and watch (=E2=80=9CIf =E2=80=A6thou=
shalt not
watch=E2=80=9D). They are to repent of not watching and begin watching i=
n
prayer if they want to live eternally. If they do not repent and begin
praying in that manner, their living name (their immortal spirit) will
die.
In Mark 13:33, the Messiah tells them to pay attention to his warning,
saying, =E2=80=9CTake ye heed, watch and pray=E2=80=9D.
In this instance, the word translated =E2=80=98watch=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 =
Gk. 69 =E2=80=93 means to be
sleepless, i.e. keep awake. It is from two words, one a negative
particle (meaning =E2=80=98not=E2=80=99) and the other =E2=80=93 Gk. 525=
8 =E2=80=93 is defined as
=E2=80=9Csleep, i.e. (figuratively) spiritual torpor=E2=80=9D [stupor]; =
and is
=E2=80=9Cperhaps akin=E2=80=9D to Heb. 5259 indicating a specifically co=
vertly
[hidden] and especially inferior position or condition.
Those who =E2=80=98watch=E2=80=99, as the Messiah directs us to do, will=
not be in an
inferior condition of spiritual stupor, which remains hidden from
those in that state. To neglect to watch keeps you in a condition of
spiritual stupor, a sleep that consigns your spirit to death and
nonexistence.
Watch in stillness in the name of Yeshua` to be literally roused from
death and avoid the second death of the soul, which is the
nonexistence caused by the death of the spirit.
There's lots more from Yeshua` on watching, but I just thought you
might find this interesting.
You know, I find it interesting that of all the people here, we don't
really consider ourselves to be "Christian", but we love Yeshua and we
stand by guarding his words and we treasure them. It's my
inspiration, Psalm 19. It means the a lot that you totally understood
why I have taken this name for myself.
While I believe it is a given we can't "keep" the entire law, we can
guard his truth and write it on our hearts.
Deu 4:9 =E2=80=9COnly, guard yourself, and guard your life diligently, les=
t
you forget the Words your eyes have seen, and lest they turn aside
from your heart all the days of your life. And you shall make them
known to your children and your grandchildren.
It's one of the reasons I've enjoyed this version of scriptures so
much.
http://www.isr-messianic.org/
That and I enjoy seeing the creators name =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94, in it'=
s original
Hebrew writing. The title lord gets used for all sorts of things and
doesn't distinguish the creator.
Shalom,
Snow
Law; an ordinance of reason for the common good, made by him who has
care of the community.
Saint Thomas Aquinas
I would consider myself Christian IF that didn't always mean a 'Paul-
worshipper who doesn't much care about the Saviour and what he
taught'.
My son suggested I call myself a 'non-denominational Messianic' like
he does. It seems the only solution. Messianic would be shorter, I
guess. So I am a Messianic, someone who believes God came in the flesh
as Yeshua` the Messiah to act as our Saviour and who developed his own
ministry and chose his own apostles prior to his death and
resurrection and said "It is finished" when he left the flesh behind.
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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29 Dec 2007 06:39:17 PM |
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On Dec 29, 11:13 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
I would consider myself Christian IF that didn't always mean a 'Paul-
worshipper who doesn't much care about the Saviour and what he
taught'.
My son suggested I call myself a 'non-denominational Messianic' like
he does. It seems the only solution. Messianic would be shorter, I
guess. So I am a Messianic, someone who believes God came in the flesh
as Yeshua` the Messiah to act as our Saviour and who developed his own
ministry and chose his own apostles prior to his death and
resurrection and said "It is finished" when he left the flesh behind.
I consider you to be very "Christian" in the kindest of ways that you
represent what is good and true about the faith and the words of
Messiah Yeshua. May you always prevail in his truth.
Shalom,
Snow
The memories of men are too frail a thread to hang history from.
John Still
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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30 Dec 2007 10:48:31 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:39:17 -0800 (PST), guardian Snow
<snowpheonix@eck.net.au> wrote:
I consider you to be very "Christian" in the kindest of ways that you
represent what is good and true about the faith and the words of
Messiah Yeshua. May you always prevail in his truth.
Oh my God! Linda is "Christian"! I'm not talking to Linda anymore. ;-)
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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30 Dec 2007 11:02:23 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:13:03 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote:
I would consider myself Christian IF that didn't always mean a 'Paul-
worshipper who doesn't much care about the Saviour and what he
taught'.
My son suggested I call myself a 'non-denominational Messianic' like
he does. It seems the only solution. Messianic would be shorter, I
guess. So I am a Messianic, someone who believes God came in the flesh
as Yeshua` the Messiah to act as our Saviour and who developed his own
ministry and chose his own apostles prior to his death and
It is a bit a trial trying to explain who are the people of God.
The people back than were Messianic tribes of Judah. Separation.
The 10 lost tribes of Israel aren't found in the state of Israel.
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| User: "Linda Lee" |
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30 Dec 2007 12:17:07 PM |
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On Dec 30, 12:02 pm, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stepha...@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:13:03 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
I would consider myself Christian IF that didn't always mean a 'Paul-
worshipper who doesn't much care about the Saviour and what he
taught'.
My son suggested I call myself a 'non-denominational Messianic' like
he does. It seems the only solution. Messianic would be shorter, I
guess. So I am a Messianic, someone who believes God came in the flesh
as Yeshua` the Messiah to act as our Saviour and who developed his own
ministry and chose his own apostles prior to his death and
It is a bit a trial trying to explain who are the people of God.
The people back than were Messianic tribes of Judah. Separation.
The 10 lost tribes of Israel aren't found in the state of Israel.
Qadosh,
Since the ten tribes were scattered and assimilated into other
cultures, none of us know who the ten tribes are; they could be you or
me or anyone.
I've decided I could be 'labeled' a Messianic Christian (since Christ
simply means anointed) versus a Pauline Christian (which is most
everyone else claiming to be Christian, but who worship Paul over the
Messiah).
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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01 Jan 2008 12:10:48 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:17:07 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote:
On Dec 30, 12:02 pm, Qadosh Stephanos <qadosh.stepha...@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:13:03 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
I would consider myself Christian IF that didn't always mean a 'Paul-
worshipper who doesn't much care about the Saviour and what he
taught'.
My son suggested I call myself a 'non-denominational Messianic' like
he does. It seems the only solution. Messianic would be shorter, I
guess. So I am a Messianic, someone who believes God came in the flesh
as Yeshua` the Messiah to act as our Saviour and who developed his own
ministry and chose his own apostles prior to his death and
It is a bit a trial trying to explain who are the people of God.
The people back than were Messianic tribes of Judah. Separation.
The 10 lost tribes of Israel aren't found in the state of Israel.
Qadosh,
Since the ten tribes were scattered and assimilated into other
cultures, none of us know who the ten tribes are; they could be you or
me or anyone.
I've decided I could be 'labeled' a Messianic Christian (since Christ
simply means anointed) versus a Pauline Christian (which is most
everyone else claiming to be Christian, but who worship Paul over the
Messiah).
It is written that only the tribe of Judah remained in those lands.
Although some Levites also remained. The tribe of Judah is Messiah.
Some accepted the Messiah. Others are still awaiting their Messiah.
Sometime in this century, the Christian's stopped killing the Jews.
The lost tribes can be Muslim, Paganists, Atheists, or Christian's.
The people in Israel are tribes of Judah. The others lost religion.
Maybe we can be called Messianic Gentiles. We don't know our blood.
It doesn't matter anyway, God don't care either. God is not racist.
God gives where He is. The people of demons speak in other tongues.
Australians speak funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0haowbRsmw
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| User: "Debra" |
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27 Dec 2007 11:32:34 PM |
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On Dec 27, 9:16=C2=A0pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important so I'm reposting it so
it doesn't get lost in the blur between the cut and paste of Mark T's
post that I typically skip past.
That is a good question and one I was hoping to answer today in a
different way. Keep in mind I'm glad that you continue to post to me
but you have a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't
speak to you directly.
Joh 7:43 So a division* came about among the people because of Him.
*schisma
skhis'-mah
From G4977; a split or gap (=E2=80=9Cschism=E2=80=9D), literally or figura=
tively: -
division, rent, schism.
Schism
SCHISM, n. 1. In a general sense, division or separation; but
appropriately, a division or separation in a church or denomination of
christians, occasioned by diversity of opinions; breach of unity among
people of the same religious faith.
A better question is to identify what is a demon.
Act 5:3 But K=C4=95pha said, =E2=80=9CHananyah, why has Satan filled your =
heart to
lie to the Set-apart Spirit and keep back from the price of the land
for yourself?
A demon is a spirit that lies to us just as in this example from Acts
5. =C2=A0Hananyah was demonically possessed. A demon comes to create
division amongst us. =C2=A0Here is a fact, we are all descendants of Adam
and Eve and so we are all brothers. =C2=A0Yes, Mr. Tindall, even you are m=
y
brother and while you may not identify yourself as such because of our
different beliefs, I have no reason to think any less of you. I'm sure
you'll continue to try but even your evil prayers are of no effect to
me.
Luk 21:10 Then He said to them, =E2=80=9CNation shall rise against nation,=
and
reign against reign.
One of the greatest demons that has possessed the world with a spirit
of a lie is the one I call, "Brother P" and it is the spirit of
labeling people for the sake of creating division. =C2=A0You call me a
"Yank" but really thats just a label you use to hide your fears and
the demon that hides in you.
Mat 18:20 =C2=A0For where two or three are gathered together in my name,
there am I in the midst of them.
Other labels people use and there are many.. and they are all equally
wrong don't just include nationality but race, religion and political
labels. They are all schisms to create division amongst us and this in
fact denies us our true power of working together as brother and
sisters. The demons want to create and will create schisms to pick us
off one at a time, to divide and conquer.
Luk 12:52 =C2=A0For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three.
We know this demon is going to grow in power because of the prophesies
by the Messiah but in the aspect of spiritual warfare, we can identify
this spirit and remove it from our midst with prayer and fasting.
Shalom,
Snow
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against? I have. I've been
protested and demonstrated against. Picket signs for my wicked rhymes,
Look at the times.
Eminem
Define Demons with the TANAKH.
Debra
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| User: "guardian Snow" |
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28 Dec 2007 12:01:56 AM |
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On Dec 28, 4:32 pm, Debra <the2goldilo...@aol.com> wrote:
Define Demons with the TANAKH.
1Sa 16:14 And the Spirit of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 turned aside from Sha=
=E2=80=99ul, and an evil
spirit from =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 troubled him.
2Ch 18:22 =E2=80=9CAnd now, see, =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 has put a spirit o=
f falsehood1 in the
mouth of these prophets of yours, and =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 has spoken ev=
il concerning
you.=E2=80=9D Footnote: 12 Thess. 2:11.
Gen 3:1 And the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field
which =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 Elohim had made, and he said to the woman, =
=E2=80=9CIs it true that
Elohim has said, =E2=80=98Do not eat of every tree of the garden=E2=80=99?=
=E2=80=9D
You of all people are not ignorant of demonic activity, so why would
you play games with me?
I can give you a dozens more references but I think you should address
your own experience rather then being ignorant.
Lev 17:7 =E2=80=9CAnd let them no longer slaughter their slaughterings to
demons, after whom they whored. This is a law forever for them
throughout their generations.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=99
Shalom,
Snow
One sword keeps another in the sheath. He that cannot forgive others,
breaks the bridge over which he himself must pass if he would ever
reach heaven; for everyone has need to be forgiven.
George Herbert
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28 Dec 2007 10:14:23 AM |
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On Dec 27, 10:01=C2=A0pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:32 pm, Debra <the2goldilo...@aol.com> wrote:
Define Demons with the TANAKH.
1Sa 16:14 And the Spirit of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 turned aside from Sha=
=E2=80=99ul, and an evil
spirit from =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 troubled him.
2Ch 18:22 =E2=80=9CAnd now, see, =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 has put a spirit=
of falsehood1 in the
mouth of these prophets of yours, and =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 has spoken =
evil concerning
you.=E2=80=9D Footnote: 12 Thess. 2:11.
Gen 3:1 =C2=A0And the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field
which =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 Elohim had made, and he said to the woman, =
=E2=80=9CIs it true that
Elohim has said, =E2=80=98Do not eat of every tree of the garden=E2=80=99?=
=E2=80=9D
You of all people are not ignorant of demonic activity, so why would
you play games with me?
I can give you a dozens more references but I think you should address
your own experience rather then being ignorant.
Lev 17:7 =E2=80=9CAnd let them no longer slaughter their slaughterings to
demons, after whom they whored. This is a law forever for them
throughout their generations.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=99
Shalom,
Snow
One sword keeps another in the sheath. =C2=A0He that cannot forgive others=
,
breaks the bridge over which he himself must pass if he would ever
reach heaven; for everyone has need to be forgiven.
George Herbert
I want you to take a look in some of the differences between the
TANAKH... and the NT thinking on evil spirits...
You sited Saul...Well...YHWH put that evil spirit on Saul himself...Is
that a teaching of the NT evil spirits in the modern churches.
And I now believe in my experience I had with that person...that YHWH
did do that perhaps in that way...Similar to Saul because of
disobedience???...I originally looked at it from a NT viewpoint but I
had to go back to the TANAKH view to see if it lines up or not.
I have also years ago had an experience with an old coworker who
professed an alternative lifestyle...standing face to face with me and
I got pushed hard by something you couldn't see...but I stood
firm...Knew it was evil...that person used to make weird gutteral
noises...and when I and a coworker asked her why...she replied because
she could.
The weird thing about her...she could profess Jesus as Lord and "pass
the NT test"
and as in Job to test me.
You cited Micaiah...and YHWH sent the lying spirits to speak in the
mouths of 400 prophets...that is also in I Kings 18 I believe...I saw
that too...personally... Funny...got shown that verse when... I am not
joking...Many people said the same exact phrase to me...and the way I
stood up to the test was to trust YHWH and to take him as counsel with
his word... It was very strange like there was some sort of
orchestration to it.
Again...do people teach that YHWH sends spirits to cause people to
lie?? In the modern church do they teach that...Why is the TANAKH
concept different than the NT concept...did something change?
Like I said...I think you should really study the TANAKH and learn
those concepts by themselves...and then go to the NT...If YHWH does
not change...why a change in concepts?
Debra
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28 Dec 2007 04:47:32 PM |
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On Dec 29, 3:14 am, Debra <the2goldilo...@aol.com> wrote:
On Dec 27, 10:01 pm, guardian Snow <snowpheo...@eck.net.au> wrote:
On Dec 28, 4:32 pm, Debra <the2goldilo...@aol.com> wrote:
Define Demons with the TANAKH.
1Sa 16:14 And the Spirit of =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 turned aside from S=
ha=E2=80=99ul, and an evil
spirit from =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 troubled him.
2Ch 18:22 =E2=80=9CAnd now, see, =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 has put a spir=
it of falsehood1 in the
mouth of these prophets of yours, and =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 has spoke=
n evil concerning
you.=E2=80=9D Footnote: 12 Thess. 2:11.
Gen 3:1 And the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field
which =D7=99=D7=94=D7=95=D7=94 Elohim had made, and he said to the woman=
, =E2=80=9CIs it true that
Elohim has said, =E2=80=98Do not eat of every tree of the garden=E2=80=
=99?=E2=80=9D
You of all people are not ignorant of demonic activity, so why would
you play games with me?
I can give you a dozens more references but I think you should address
your own experience rather then being ignorant.
Lev 17:7 =E2=80=9CAnd let them no longer slaughter their slaughterings t=
o
demons, after whom they whored. This is a law forever for them
throughout their generations.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=99
Shalom,
Snow
One sword keeps another in the sheath. He that cannot forgive others,
breaks the bridge over which he himself must pass if he would ever
reach heaven; for everyone has need to be forgiven.
George Herbert
I want you to take a look in some of the differences between the
TANAKH... and the NT thinking on evil spirits...
You sited Saul...Well...YHWH put that evil spirit on Saul himself...Is
that a teaching of the NT evil spirits in the modern churches.
You seem to think we are talking about different religions just
because OT and NT in bibles are separated. In Christian terms they
are all one set of scriptures and my disagreement with Paul is in no
way related to the Messiah Yeshua. It is forgivable to speak against
a man who rambled on so much his message can be twisted to mean
anything. Yeshua kept his points clear and his message one sided and
I have many written witnesses to his message of forgiveness. That
seems to be the very problem you have in that you are unforgiving.
You spoke nothing about demons and only about your objection to the
NT, which I don't care about. Thats not my business, it's yours, let
it rest.
As to; do people teach that YHWH sends spirits to cause people to
lie??
Yes, they do because Christian ministers use OT books in sermons also
and thats the part you glance over.
Shalom,
Snow
I am proud of the fact that I never invented weapons to kill.
Thomas A. Edison (Inventor of the "Westinghouse" current Electric
Chair)
If someday they say of me that in my work I have contributed something
to the welfare and happiness of my fellow man, I shall be satisfied.
George Westinghouse
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28 Dec 2007 04:06:01 PM |
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guardian Snow wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important so I'm reposting it so
it doesn't get lost in the blur between the cut and paste of Mark T's
post that I typically skip past.
That is a good question and one I was hoping to answer today in a
different way. Keep in mind I'm glad that you continue to post to me
but you have a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't
speak to you directly.
Joh 7:43 So a division* came about among the people because of Him.
*schisma
skhis'-mah
From G4977; a split or gap (=E2=80=9Cschism=E2=80=9D), literally or figura=
tively: -
division, rent, schism.
Schism
SCHISM, n. 1. In a general sense, division or separation; but
appropriately, a division or separation in a church or denomination of
christians, occasioned by diversity of opinions; breach of unity among
people of the same religious faith.
A better question is to identify what is a demon.
Act 5:3 But K=C4=95pha said, =E2=80=9CHananyah, why has Satan filled your =
heart to
lie to the Set-apart Spirit and keep back from the price of the land
for yourself?
A demon is a spirit that lies to us just as in this example from Acts
5. Hananyah was demonically possessed. A demon comes to create
division amongst us. Here is a fact, we are all descendants of Adam
and Eve and so we are all brothers. Yes, Mr. Tindall, even you are my
brother and while you may not identify yourself as such because of our
different beliefs, I have no reason to think any less of you. I'm sure
you'll continue to try but even your evil prayers are of no effect to
me.
Luk 21:10 Then He said to them, =E2=80=9CNation shall rise against nation,=
and
reign against reign.
One of the greatest demons that has possessed the world with a spirit
of a lie is the one I call, "Brother P" and it is the spirit of
labeling people for the sake of creating division. You call me a
"Yank" but really thats just a label you use to hide your fears and
the demon that hides in you.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name,
there am I in the midst of them.
Other labels people use and there are many.. and they are all equally
wrong don't just include nationality but race, religion and political
labels. They are all schisms to create division amongst us and this in
fact denies us our true power of working together as brother and
sisters. The demons want to create and will create schisms to pick us
off one at a time, to divide and conquer.
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three.
We know this demon is going to grow in power because of the prophesies
by the Messiah but in the aspect of spiritual warfare, we can identify
this spirit and remove it from our midst with prayer and fasting.
Shalom,
Snow
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against? I have. I've been
protested and demonstrated against. Picket signs for my wicked rhymes,
Look at the times.
Eminem
Over the ages, it was common belief that evil spirits were either the
fallen angels or the spirits of dead wicked men. They were both.
Some of these demons/devils received worship as 'other gods'.
Deut. 32:17 says, =E2=80=9CThey sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods
whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers
feared not.=E2=80=9D
The word here translated =E2=80=98devils=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 7700 =E2=80=
=93 =E2=80=98shade=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 means =E2=80=9Ca
daemon (as malignant)=E2=80=9D.
Webster's New World Third Coll. Dictionary defines =E2=80=98demon=E2=80=99 a=
s
meaning: 1.) DAEMON - senses 1 & 2 [see below]. 2. ) a devil; evil
spirit. 3.) a person or thing regarded as evil, cruel, etc. 4.a.) a
person who has great energy or skill. b.) an enthusiast or devotee.
Webster=E2=80=99s New World Third Coll. Dictionary defines =E2=80=98daemon=
=E2=80=99 as
meaning: 1.) Greek mythology =E2=80=93 any of the secondary divinities
ranking between the gods and men. 2.) a guardian spirit, inspiring or
inner spirit. 3.) DEMON - sense 2 [=E2=80=9Ca devil; evil spirit=E2=80=9D =
=E2=80=93 see
above].
Demon can be used in a good or bad sense, depending upon the religious
basis. The pagan Greeks considered daemons/demons as good or divine
intermediaries between their =E2=80=98gods=E2=80=99 and men, but the Scriptu=
res
identify them as evil and as the =E2=80=98other gods=E2=80=99 of the pagans.=
Deut. 32:17 equates them with =E2=80=98other gods=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=98gods=E2=
=80=99 other than the LORD
God) to whom the pagans offered sacrificial worship. Therefore, a
demon as an =E2=80=9Cinner spirit=E2=80=9D would represent demon possession
biblically.
Lev. 17:7 says, =E2=80=9CAnd they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto
devils, after whom they have gone a whoring=E2=80=9D.
The same word translated =E2=80=9Cdevils=E2=80=9D in Lev. 17:7 is translated=
=E2=80=9Csatyr=E2=80=9D
in Isaiah 34:14, which says, =E2=80=9CThe wild beasts of the desert shall al=
so
meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to
his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for
herself a place of rest=E2=80=9D.
The word here translated =E2=80=98screech owl=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 3917 =
=E2=80=93 =E2=80=98liyliyth=E2=80=99 (known
in apocryphal Jewish texts as a demon called Lilith) =E2=80=93 is defined =
=E2=80=9Ca
night spectre=E2=80=9D. A =E2=80=98spectre=E2=80=99 (or =E2=80=98specter=E2=
=80=99) is defined by Webster=E2=80=99s New
World Third Coll. Dictionary as =E2=80=9Ca ghost; apparition=E2=80=9D [i.e. =
a spirit/
devil] and =E2=80=9Cany object of fear or dread=E2=80=9D.
The word translated =E2=80=9Cdevils=E2=80=9D in Lev. 17:7 and =E2=80=9Csatyr=
=E2=80=9D in Isa. 34:14 is
analogous to a Roman deity. The word =E2=80=98devils=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98s=
atyr=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 8163
=E2=80=93 is defined =E2=80=9Cshaggy; as noun, a he goat; by analogy a faun=
=E2=80=9D; from
Heb. 8175 =E2=80=93 meaning =E2=80=9Ca primitive root; to storm; by implicat=
ion to
shiver, i.e., fear=E2=80=9D.
A =E2=80=98faun=E2=80=99 is defined by Webster=E2=80=99s New World Third Col=
l. Dictionary as
=E2=80=9Cany of a class of minor Roman deities, usually represented as havin=
g
the body of a man, but the horns, pointed ears, tail and hind legs of
a goat: see also SATYR=E2=80=9D. Undoubtedly, this is the origin of the same=
depiction of The Devil.
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| User: "Debra" |
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
30 Dec 2007 05:36:27 PM |
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On Dec 28, 2:06=C2=A0pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
guardian Snow wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important so I'm reposting it so
it doesn't get lost in the blur between the cut and paste of Mark T's
post that I typically skip past.
That is a good question and one I was hoping to answer today in a
different way. Keep in mind I'm glad that you continue to post to me
but you have a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't
speak to you directly.
Joh 7:43 So a division* came about among the people because of Him.
*schisma
skhis'-mah
From G4977; a split or gap (=E2=80=9Cschism=E2=80=9D), literally or figu=
ratively: -
division, rent, schism.
Schism
SCHISM, n. 1. In a general sense, division or separation; but
appropriately, a division or separation in a church or denomination of
christians, occasioned by diversity of opinions; breach of unity among
people of the same religious faith.
A better question is to identify what is a demon.
Act 5:3 But K=C4=95pha said, =E2=80=9CHananyah, why has Satan filled you=
r heart to
lie to the Set-apart Spirit and keep back from the price of the land
for yourself?
A demon is a spirit that lies to us just as in this example from Acts
5. =C2=A0Hananyah was demonically possessed. A demon comes to create
division amongst us. =C2=A0Here is a fact, we are all descendants of Ada=
m
and Eve and so we are all brothers. =C2=A0Yes, Mr. Tindall, even you are=
my
brother and while you may not identify yourself as such because of our
different beliefs, I have no reason to think any less of you. I'm sure
you'll continue to try but even your evil prayers are of no effect to
me.
Luk 21:10 Then He said to them, =E2=80=9CNation shall rise against natio=
n, and
reign against reign.
One of the greatest demons that has possessed the world with a spirit
of a lie is the one I call, "Brother P" and it is the spirit of
labeling people for the sake of creating division. =C2=A0You call me a
"Yank" but really thats just a label you use to hide your fears and
the demon that hides in you.
Mat 18:20 =C2=A0For where two or three are gathered together in my name,=
there am I in the midst of them.
Other labels people use and there are many.. and they are all equally
wrong don't just include nationality but race, religion and political
labels. They are all schisms to create division amongst us and this in
fact denies us our true power of working together as brother and
sisters. The demons want to create and will create schisms to pick us
off one at a time, to divide and conquer.
Luk 12:52 =C2=A0For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three.
We know this demon is going to grow in power because of the prophesies
by the Messiah but in the aspect of spiritual warfare, we can identify
this spirit and remove it from our midst with prayer and fasting.
Shalom,
Snow
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against? I have. I've been
protested and demonstrated against. Picket signs for my wicked rhymes,
Look at the times.
Eminem
Over the ages, it was common belief that evil spirits were either the
fallen angels or the spirits of dead wicked men. They were both.
Some of these demons/devils received worship as 'other gods'.
Deut. 32:17 says, =E2=80=9CThey sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to god=
s
whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers
feared not.=E2=80=9D
The word here translated =E2=80=98devils=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 7700 =E2=
=80=93 =E2=80=98shade=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 means =E2=80=9Ca
daemon (as malignant)=E2=80=9D.
Webster's New World Third Coll. Dictionary defines =E2=80=98demon=E2=80=99=
as
meaning: =C2=A01.) DAEMON - senses 1 & 2 [see below]. =C2=A0 2. ) a devil;=
evil
spirit. =C2=A03.) a person or thing regarded as evil, cruel, etc. =C2=A04.=
a.) a
person who has great energy or skill. =C2=A0 b.) an enthusiast or devotee.=
Webster=E2=80=99s New World Third Coll. Dictionary defines =E2=80=98daemon=
=E2=80=99 as
meaning: =C2=A01.) Greek mythology =E2=80=93 any of the secondary diviniti=
es
ranking between the gods and men. =C2=A02.) a guardian spirit, inspiring o=
r
inner spirit. =C2=A03.) DEMON - sense 2 [=E2=80=9Ca devil; evil spirit=E2=
=80=9D =E2=80=93 see
above].
Demon can be used in a good or bad sense, depending upon the religious
basis. The pagan Greeks considered daemons/demons as good or divine
intermediaries between their =E2=80=98gods=E2=80=99 and men, but the Scrip=
tures
identify them as evil and as the =E2=80=98other gods=E2=80=99 of the pagan=
s.
Deut. 32:17 equates them with =E2=80=98other gods=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=98gods=
=E2=80=99 other than the LORD
God) to whom the pagans offered sacrificial worship. =C2=A0Therefore, a
demon as an =E2=80=9Cinner spirit=E2=80=9D would represent demon possessio=
n
biblically.
Lev. 17:7 says, =E2=80=9CAnd they shall no more offer their sacrifices unt=
o
devils, after whom they have gone a whoring=E2=80=9D.
The same word translated =E2=80=9Cdevils=E2=80=9D in Lev. 17:7 is translat=
ed =E2=80=9Csatyr=E2=80=9D
in Isaiah 34:14, which says, =E2=80=9CThe wild beasts of the desert shall =
also
meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to
his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for
herself a place of rest=E2=80=9D.
The word here translated =E2=80=98screech owl=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 3917=
=E2=80=93 =E2=80=98liyliyth=E2=80=99 (known
in apocryphal Jewish texts as a demon called Lilith) =E2=80=93 is defined =
=E2=80=9Ca
night spectre=E2=80=9D. A =E2=80=98spectre=E2=80=99 (or =E2=80=98specter=
=E2=80=99) is defined by Webster=E2=80=99s New
World Third Coll. Dictionary as =E2=80=9Ca ghost; apparition=E2=80=9D [i.e=
.. a spirit/
devil] and =E2=80=9Cany object of fear or dread=E2=80=9D.
The word translated =E2=80=9Cdevils=E2=80=9D in Lev. 17:7 and =E2=80=9Csat=
yr=E2=80=9D in Isa. 34:14 is
analogous to a Roman deity. The word =E2=80=98devils=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=
=98satyr=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 8163
=E2=80=93 is defined =E2=80=9Cshaggy; as noun, a he goat; by analogy a fau=
n=E2=80=9D; from
Heb. 8175 =E2=80=93 meaning =E2=80=9Ca primitive root; to storm; by implic=
ation to
shiver, i.e., fear=E2=80=9D.
A =E2=80=98faun=E2=80=99 is defined by Webster=E2=80=99s New World Third C=
oll. Dictionary as
=E2=80=9Cany of a class of minor Roman deities, usually represented as hav=
ing
the body of a man, but the horns, pointed ears, tail and hind legs of
a goat: see also SATYR=E2=80=9D. Undoubtedly, this is the origin of the sa=
me
depiction of The Devil.- Hide quoted text -
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Interesting...so how about the quotes regarding the evil spirits sent
on Saul...and the Lying spirit put into the mouths of the 400 prophets
regarding Micaiah?
Debra
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
30 Dec 2007 06:54:28 PM |
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On Dec 30, 6:36 pm, Debra <the2goldilo...@aol.com> wrote:
On Dec 28, 2:06 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
guardian Snow wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important so I'm reposting it so
it doesn't get lost in the blur between the cut and paste of Mark T's
post that I typically skip past.
That is a good question and one I was hoping to answer today in a
different way. Keep in mind I'm glad that you continue to post to me
but you have a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't
speak to you directly.
Joh 7:43 So a division* came about among the people because of Him.
*schisma
skhis'-mah
From G4977; a split or gap (=E2=80=9Cschism=E2=80=9D), literally or fi=
guratively: -
division, rent, schism.
Schism
SCHISM, n. 1. In a general sense, division or separation; but
appropriately, a division or separation in a church or denomination of=
christians, occasioned by diversity of opinions; breach of unity among=
people of the same religious faith.
A better question is to identify what is a demon.
Act 5:3 But K=C4=95pha said, =E2=80=9CHananyah, why has Satan filled y=
our heart to
lie to the Set-apart Spirit and keep back from the price of the land
for yourself?
A demon is a spirit that lies to us just as in this example from Acts
5. Hananyah was demonically possessed. A demon comes to create
division amongst us. Here is a fact, we are all descendants of Adam
and Eve and so we are all brothers. Yes, Mr. Tindall, even you are my=
brother and while you may not identify yourself as such because of our=
different beliefs, I have no reason to think any less of you. I'm sure=
you'll continue to try but even your evil prayers are of no effect to
me.
Luk 21:10 Then He said to them, =E2=80=9CNation shall rise against nat=
ion, and
reign against reign.
One of the greatest demons that has possessed the world with a spirit
of a lie is the one I call, "Brother P" and it is the spirit of
labeling people for the sake of creating division. You call me a
"Yank" but really thats just a label you use to hide your fears and
the demon that hides in you.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name,
there am I in the midst of them.
Other labels people use and there are many.. and they are all equally
wrong don't just include nationality but race, religion and political
labels. They are all schisms to create division amongst us and this in=
fact denies us our true power of working together as brother and
sisters. The demons want to create and will create schisms to pick us
off one at a time, to divide and conquer.
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house
divided, three against two, and two against three.
We know this demon is going to grow in power because of the prophesies=
by the Messiah but in the aspect of spiritual warfare, we can identify=
this spirit and remove it from our midst with prayer and fasting.
Shalom,
Snow
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against? I have. I've been
protested and demonstrated against. Picket signs for my wicked rhymes,=
Look at the times.
Eminem
Over the ages, it was common belief that evil spirits were either the
fallen angels or the spirits of dead wicked men. They were both.
Some of these demons/devils received worship as 'other gods'.
Deut. 32:17 says, =E2=80=9CThey sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to g=
ods
whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers
feared not.=E2=80=9D
The word here translated =E2=80=98devils=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 7700 =
=E2=80=93 =E2=80=98shade=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 means =E2=80=9Ca
daemon (as malignant)=E2=80=9D.
Webster's New World Third Coll. Dictionary defines =E2=80=98demon=E2=80=
=99 as
meaning: 1.) DAEMON - senses 1 & 2 [see below]. 2. ) a devil; evil
spirit. 3.) a person or thing regarded as evil, cruel, etc. 4.a.) a
person who has great energy or skill. b.) an enthusiast or devotee.
Webster=E2=80=99s New World Third Coll. Dictionary defines =E2=80=98daem=
on=E2=80=99 as
meaning: 1.) Greek mythology =E2=80=93 any of the secondary divinities
ranking between the gods and men. 2.) a guardian spirit, inspiring or
inner spirit. 3.) DEMON - sense 2 [=E2=80=9Ca devil; evil spirit=E2=80=
=9D =E2=80=93 see
above].
Demon can be used in a good or bad sense, depending upon the religious
basis. The pagan Greeks considered daemons/demons as good or divine
intermediaries between their =E2=80=98gods=E2=80=99 and men, but the Scr=
iptures
identify them as evil and as the =E2=80=98other gods=E2=80=99 of the pag=
ans.
Deut. 32:17 equates them with =E2=80=98other gods=E2=80=99 (=E2=80=98god=
s=E2=80=99 other than the LORD
God) to whom the pagans offered sacrificial worship. Therefore, a
demon as an =E2=80=9Cinner spirit=E2=80=9D would represent demon possess=
ion
biblically.
Lev. 17:7 says, =E2=80=9CAnd they shall no more offer their sacrifices u=
nto
devils, after whom they have gone a whoring=E2=80=9D.
The same word translated =E2=80=9Cdevils=E2=80=9D in Lev. 17:7 is transl=
ated =E2=80=9Csatyr=E2=80=9D
in Isaiah 34:14, which says, =E2=80=9CThe wild beasts of the desert shal=
l also
meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to
his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for
herself a place of rest=E2=80=9D.
The word here translated =E2=80=98screech owl=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 39=
17 =E2=80=93 =E2=80=98liyliyth=E2=80=99 (known
in apocryphal Jewish texts as a demon called Lilith) =E2=80=93 is define=
d =E2=80=9Ca
night spectre=E2=80=9D. A =E2=80=98spectre=E2=80=99 (or =E2=80=98specter=
=E2=80=99) is defined by Webster=E2=80=99s New
World Third Coll. Dictionary as =E2=80=9Ca ghost; apparition=E2=80=9D [i=
..e. a spirit/
devil] and =E2=80=9Cany object of fear or dread=E2=80=9D.
The word translated =E2=80=9Cdevils=E2=80=9D in Lev. 17:7 and =E2=80=9Cs=
atyr=E2=80=9D in Isa. 34:14 is
analogous to a Roman deity. The word =E2=80=98devils=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=
=98satyr=E2=80=99 =E2=80=93 Heb. 8163
=E2=80=93 is defined =E2=80=9Cshaggy; as noun, a he goat; by analogy a f=
aun=E2=80=9D; from
Heb. 8175 =E2=80=93 meaning =E2=80=9Ca primitive root; to storm; by impl=
ication to
shiver, i.e., fear=E2=80=9D.
A =E2=80=98faun=E2=80=99 is defined by Webster=E2=80=99s New World Third=
Coll. Dictionary as
=E2=80=9Cany of a class of minor Roman deities, usually represented as h=
aving
the body of a man, but the horns, pointed ears, tail and hind legs of
a goat: see also SATYR=E2=80=9D. Undoubtedly, this is the origin of the =
same
depiction of The Devil.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Interesting...so how about the quotes regarding the evil spirits sent
on Saul...and the Lying spirit put into the mouths of the 400 prophets
regarding Micaiah?
Debra
What's to explain? God sent an evil spirit to influence and punish
Saul,
1Sa 16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil
spirit from the LORD troubled him.
This was not unusual:
Psa 78:49 says "He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath,
and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them" (the
Israelites).
Jdg 9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men
of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with
Abimelech:
And the following is self-explanatory.
2Ch 18:20 Then there came out a spirit, and stood before the LORD,
and said, I will entice him. And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith?
2Ch 18:21 And he said, I will go out, and be a lying spirit in the
mouth of all his prophets. And the LORD said, Thou shalt entice him,
and thou shalt also prevail: go out, and do even so.
2Ch 18:22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in
the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against
thee.
1Ki 22:21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD,
and said, I will persuade him.
1Ki 22:22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will
go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his
prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go
forth, and do so.
1Ki 22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in
the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil
concerning thee.
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| Title: Re: Demons, Schism |
01 Jan 2008 06:34:51 PM |
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On Dec 30 2007, 4:54=C2=A0pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
On Dec 30, 6:36 pm, Debra <the2goldilo...@aol.com> wrote:
On Dec 28, 2:06 pm, Linda Lee <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
guardian Snow wrote:
I thought this post was particularly important so I'm reposting it s=
o
it doesn't get lost in the blur between the cut and paste of Mark T'=
s
post that I typically skip past.
That is a good question and one I was hoping to answer today in a
different way. Keep in mind I'm glad that you continue to post to me=
but you have a troubled spirit Mark and while I'd like to help you
identify it, until you answer my previous question honestly, I can't=
speak to you directly.
Joh 7:43 So a division* came about among the people because of Him.
*schisma
skhis'-mah
From G4977; a split or gap (=E2=80=9Cschism=E2=80=9D), literally or =
figuratively: -
division, rent, schism.
Schism
SCHISM, n. 1. In a general sense, division or separation; but
appropriately, a division or separation in a church or denomination =
of
christians, occasioned by diversity of opinions; breach of unity amo=
ng
people of the same religious faith.
A better question is to identify what is a demon.
Act 5:3 But K=C4=95pha said, =E2=80=9CHananyah, why has Satan filled=
your heart to
lie to the Set-apart Spirit and keep back from the price of the land=
for yourself?
A demon is a spirit that lies to us just as in this example from Act=
s
5. =C2=A0Hananyah was demonically possessed. A demon comes to create=
division amongst us. =C2=A0Here is a fact, we are all descendants of=
Adam
and Eve and so we are all brothers. =C2=A0Yes, Mr. Tindall, even you=
are my
brother and while you may not identify yourself as such because of o=
ur
different beliefs, I have no reason to think any less of you. I'm su=
re
you'll continue to try but even your evil prayers are of no effect t=
o
me.
Luk 21:10 Then He said to them, =E2=80=9CNation shall rise against n=
ation, and
reign against reign.
One of the greatest demons that has possessed the world with a spiri=
t
of a lie is the one I call, "Brother P" and it is the spirit of
labeling p | | | | |
