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30 Aug 2003 10:55:06 AM |
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Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people. The
false ideas of accidential and chance chemical evolution has brought much
suffering into this world. Each time it is embraced by people it has lead
to a diminishing of civilization(nazi death camps, communist gulags,
bounty hunting aboriginals for european museums, etc.). The diminishing
of the value of human life is a hallmark of a downward movement in
civilzation and that is a fact we are now witnessing with abortion,
euthanasia, embryo cell harvesting, sexual promiscuity, adultry, divorce,
family disintegration, meaningless ethics, and so on.
The false idea of survival of the fittest is only brutality and America
was founded on caring for the weakest among us not the stongest. Our
Constitution was not written to protect the government(the strongest) but
the citizens from the excesses of the government. Other nations are now
suffering under these false ideas by putting them into practice. These
governments are totalatarian using their strength to keep their citizens
in bondage. They of course will fail and fall as those who have done this
in the past.
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: Destruction |
31 Aug 2003 01:04:37 AM |
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
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We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
Do you want a theocracy like the Catholic Church, the Iranian Ayatollahs,
Stalin's Russia, or Jim Jones' colony in Guyana? I see yours as no
different from any of those because you make no room in your heart or your
system for those of other faiths.
You are as dangerous and bigoted as the Nazis, to yourself and to human
rights and freedoms.
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| User: "Witness" |
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31 Aug 2003 12:24:10 PM |
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"cactus" <be131344@hotmal.com> wrote in message
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to
totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
Do you want a theocracy like the Catholic Church, the Iranian Ayatollahs,
Stalin's Russia, or Jim Jones' colony in Guyana? I see yours as no
different from any of those because you make no room in your heart or your
system for those of other faiths.
+++++++++Christian theocracy makes place for peoples of all nations, and
displays concern for individuals. Totalatarianism is the result of
allegiance to faith, race, creed. I wish to be judged on the man that i am,
i don't want salvation by belonging to a certain congregation, faith, race
or national group.
You are as dangerous and bigoted as the Nazis, to yourself and to human
rights and freedoms.
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: Destruction |
31 Aug 2003 12:52:08 AM |
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
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Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people.
The Inquisition had the same goal, and tortured a lot of "false ideas." Of
course this was pre-Internet, so they couldn't post.
But do you honestly think that you can convince people of the correctness of
your views, when your facts are wrong, your views are so extreme that even
you don't defend them, and your insencerity shines out like a conflagration?
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| User: "Zachriel" |
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30 Aug 2003 10:55:58 AM |
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
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Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people. The
false ideas of accidential and chance chemical evolution has brought much
suffering into this world.
I think even a cursory examination of the Old Testament would not show any
such trend to suffering.
Each time it is embraced by people it has lead
to a diminishing of civilization(nazi death camps, communist gulags,
bounty hunting aboriginals for european museums, etc.). The diminishing
of the value of human life is a hallmark of a downward movement in
civilzation and that is a fact we are now witnessing with abortion,
euthanasia, embryo cell harvesting, sexual promiscuity, adultry, divorce,
family disintegration, meaningless ethics, and so on.
Other than embryo cell harvesting, all those sins are very ancient.
The false idea of survival of the fittest is only brutality and America
was founded on caring for the weakest among us not the stongest. Our
Constitution was not written to protect the government(the strongest) but
the citizens from the excesses of the government. Other nations are now
suffering under these false ideas by putting them into practice. These
governments are totalatarian using their strength to keep their citizens
in bondage. They of course will fail and fall as those who have done this
in the past.
The world is a cruel place. Always has been. If everything was so
peachy-keen in the old days, why would God bother to send his only begotten
Son?
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
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| User: "Routerider" |
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01 Sep 2003 07:38:04 PM |
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote...
Destruction
The false idea of survival of the fittest is only brutality and America
was founded on caring for the weakest among us not the stongest.
Ummm....these white "christians" who started this nation did it by killing
most of the native americans....
That is a perfect example of the strong surviving over the weak...the
indians could not compete with the
white mans tools/technology.
And you want to talk about brutality....let's read some old testament
scriptures and see how "god's chosen" elect behaved!
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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30 Aug 2003 01:55:44 PM |
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(IknowHimDoYou) wrote in
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Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people.
The false ideas of accidential and chance chemical evolution has
brought much suffering into this world. Each time it is embraced by
What do you mean by "accidental and chance chemical evolution?"
Do you even know?
people it has lead to a diminishing of civilization(nazi death camps,
communist gulags, bounty hunting aboriginals for european museums,
etc.). The diminishing of the value of human life is a hallmark of a
downward movement in civilzation and that is a fact we are now
witnessing with abortion, euthanasia, embryo cell harvesting, sexual
promiscuity, adultry, divorce, family disintegration, meaningless
ethics, and so on.
Oh go stuff it in the barrel of monkey turds with the rest of your
illogic. This is simply stupid sophistry. You have made NO connection
and even if this silly argumentum ad baculum fallacy WERE logical it
would have no bearing on whether or not evolution is (or is not)
occurring. Do they TEACH this kind of "logic" in some creationist school
somewhere?
The false idea of survival of the fittest is only brutality and
America was founded on caring for the weakest among us not the
stongest. Our Constitution was not written to protect the
Evolutionary fitness is reproductive fitness. It has nothing to do with
your dog-eat-dog capitalist philosophy...
government(the strongest) but the citizens from the excesses of the
government. Other nations are now suffering under these false ideas
by putting them into practice. These governments are totalatarian
using their strength to keep their citizens in bondage. They of
course will fail and fall as those who have done this in the past.
More nonsense. Most of the politicians running these shows barely give
the science we're talking about a second glance.
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to
totalatarinism or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through
His Theocracy.
By lying in His name and forcing everyone else to do the same? I think
you will be kicked out of heaven on your butt if you even TRY this. Now
take your abominable heresy and get it out of our political face!
I'll give you this. You're bold enough to state that you HATE DEMOCRACY.
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "Steven J." |
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30 Aug 2003 08:55:40 PM |
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(IknowHimDoYou) wrote in message news:<IknowHim-3008030855060001@pm1-12.kalama.com>...
Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people. The
false ideas of accidential and chance chemical evolution has brought much
suffering into this world. Each time it is embraced by people it has lead
to a diminishing of civilization(nazi death camps, communist gulags,
bounty hunting aboriginals for european museums, etc.). The diminishing
of the value of human life is a hallmark of a downward movement in
civilzation and that is a fact we are now witnessing with abortion,
euthanasia, embryo cell harvesting, sexual promiscuity, adultry, divorce,
family disintegration, meaningless ethics, and so on.
The phrase "kill them all; let God sort them out" was coined by a
Christian waging holy war against Christian heretics (mixed in with
orthodox Christians). The dispossession and frequent slaughter of
native Americans was carried out, for the most part, by people
abjectly ignorant of, and utterly uninterested in, common descent or
the mechanisms for it. Conversely, evolutionary theory has been
accepted by quite a few governments which have not so far seen fit to
open extermination camps or institute totalitarian rule.
Nazi or other racist ideology (I think I've pointed this out to you
before) radically contradicts evolutionary theory, since it denies
variation within groups and asserts that "races" possess traits shared
by all and only members of that group. Communism emphasizes a stress
on the ability of individuals to evolve in response to environmental
changes that, at least, has nothing to do with the evolution of
populations over time. Neither follows logically from changes in
allele frequencies in populations due to differential reproductive
success of variant individuals.
It has been pointed out to you before that the mechanism for
abiogenesis (whether miracle, or some natural cause, or whether we
just hand-wave away the problem of the origin of life) is irrelevant
to the subsequent evolution of life. It has also been pointed out to
you that evolutionary theory no more denies the existence of God than
does heliocentrism or atomic theory. Your posts seem unlikely to
destroy anything except your own reputation for intelligence and
honesty until you show you understand this.
The false idea of survival of the fittest is only brutality and America
was founded on caring for the weakest among us not the stongest. Our
Constitution was not written to protect the government(the strongest) but
the citizens from the excesses of the government. Other nations are now
suffering under these false ideas by putting them into practice. These
governments are totalatarian using their strength to keep their citizens
in bondage. They of course will fail and fall as those who have done this
in the past.
"Survival of the fittest" is not a moral principle. Natural selection
is no more a justification for brutality or totalitarianism than
gravity is a justification for pushing people off rooftops. "Survival
of the fittest" means neither more nor less than this: not all
offspring have an equal chance of producing offspring of their own,
and their different chances are in part the result of different
inheritable traits, and thus traits making you more likely to have
offspring in a given environment will increase in frequency in the
populations in that environment.
Evolutionary theory neither defines "fitness" as "superiority" in any
moral or political sense, nor assumes that "fitter" equals "smarter,"
"prettier," more 'Aryan,'" or any other such trait. Evolutionary
theory does not imply eugenics, and indeed eugenics is an attempt,
like any sort of selective breeding, to override and replace the
effects of natural selection. And, of course, evolutionary theory
deals with biological systems, not political ones.
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
What you are, in fact, asking us to do is abandon science and blindly
follow your own prejudices and bigotry, based on your assurance that
these are the revealed will of God. There seems no obvious reason to
accept your absurd propositions.
-- Steven J.
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| User: "Adam Russell" |
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30 Aug 2003 11:53:05 AM |
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"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
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Destruction
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We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to
totalatarinism
<snip>
You just made mention of 2 antithetical situations. No control and total
control. Care to clarify first how one could *possibly* lead to the other,
and second a few examples to show it *always* does? You may want to
consider thinking more about what is true and less about how prettily words
can be strung together to support your current viewpoint.
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| User: "IknowHimDoYou" |
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30 Aug 2003 06:36:09 PM |
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In article <biqkpg$c8d0r$1@ID-122512.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Adam Russell"
<adamrussell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"IknowHimDoYou" <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-3008030855060001@pm1-12.kalama.com...
Destruction
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We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to
totalatarinism
<snip>
You just made mention of 2 antithetical situations. No control and total
control. Care to clarify first how one could *possibly* lead to the other,
and second a few examples to show it *always* does? You may want to
consider thinking more about what is true and less about how prettily words
can be strung together to support your current viewpoint.
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Let me answer you first question and I will, of course ignore, you
juvenile second statement...
Anarchy(no law) leads to totalatarinism(dictatorship). When a population
jettisons law it is not long before many long for "law and order" to be
re-established. This is the signal for those who promise this "law and
order" and bring in dictatorial control(sometimes using the ruse that free
elections will be held sometime in the future but rarely are).
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| User: "Thore Schmechtig" |
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31 Aug 2003 03:53:55 AM |
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The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people.
Your only hope is to promote ignorance and stupidity. Dismissed.
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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30 Aug 2003 09:47:18 PM |
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IknowHimDoYou <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
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Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people.
That may be your "hope," but until you actually learn something about the
ideas you oppose, rather than relying on creationist propaganda that is
ill-informed at best and deliberately deceptive at worst, you are not
likely to make any progress toward that objective. It would also doubtless
help if you actually stuck around to defend your ideas in real debate,
rather than these hit-and-run postings that strongly imply you are unable
to do so.
The
false ideas of accidential and chance chemical evolution has brought much
suffering into this world. Each time it is embraced by people it has
lead to a diminishing of civilization(nazi death camps,
Excuse me, but Nazism was not inspired by evolution. Hitler made public
speeches in which he explicitly stated that the Bible and Christianity
inspired his anti-Semitism (comparing himself to Jesus driving the Jewish
money-changers out of the temple). His Wehrmacht wore belt buckles that
said (in German) "God With Us".
communist gulags,
I have seen no evidence that communism was inspired by evolution. In fact,
the Soviet Union explicitly rejected Darwinian ideas in favor of the
strange biology of a crackpot named Trofim Lysenko, because Lysenko's odd
beliefs were held to be more consonant with dialectical materialism.
Lysenkoism was, of course, a disaster, and Russian biological science lags
behind the West to this day because of it.
bounty hunting aboriginals for european museums, etc.).
The European slave trade, imperialism, and systematic extermination of
native peoples was going on *long* before Darwin (and, again, justified by
explicit claims to the Bible; the "curse of Ham" this time), so I don't
think you have a leg to stand on here.
The diminishing
of the value of human life
I see no evidence that society places a lesser value on human life than it
once did. If anything, the fact that Western societies now recognize the
equality of all humans (which they did not always do, and this idea came
from Christianity, as I have shown) shows that our recognition of the value
of human life is only increasing.
is a hallmark of a downward movement in
civilzation and that is a fact we are now witnessing with abortion,
As scholars have noted, the Old Testament of the Bible says nothing about
abortion. This fact can have only one of two meanings:
(1) No Hebrew woman ever, at any time, terminated an unwanted pregnancy or
had the idea to do so; or
(2) Abortion in Biblical times was considered the private business of the
woman.
Which of the two do you consider more likely?
euthanasia,
Euthanasia is the merciful termination of a hopelessly ill person's
suffering. I see nothing wrong with it. Only a true fundamentalist would
deny a fellow human surcease from pain, therefore continuing his agony
longer than necessary, out of the misguided belief that only their
invisible, unevidenced deity has the right to make such a decision. When
God starts speaking his opinion clearly and unmistakably on euthanasia,
we'll listen. Until then, if he exists, he has obviously deeded the
decision to us.
embryo cell harvesting,
You see something objectionable about research that may eventually cure
victims of paralysis and inheritable diseases?
sexual promiscuity, adultry, divorce,
The fact that the Bible itself speaks against such things, I'd say, is
pretty good proof that they are not now worse than they once were. (In
fact, to hear the fundamentalists tell it, Sodom and Gomorrah were
destroyed for sexual sins. The fact that this is not happening any more
today proves that we are *improving*, if anything.)
family disintegration, meaningless ethics, and so on.
The false idea of survival of the fittest is only brutality
Interesting. You seem to think that an idea must be false if you find its
consequences objectionable. Do you apply this doctrine to other areas of
your life?
and America
was founded on caring for the weakest among us not the stongest.
I agree, and we should do that. Evolution describes what is, not what
should be; there is nothing morally wrong with recognizing evolution as the
obvious truth it is while still believing it should be resisted, say, by
preserving the lives of people with disorders or injuries that would doom
them in the absence of civilized medical care.
Our Constitution was not written to protect the government(the strongest)
but
the citizens from the excesses of the government. Other nations are now
suffering under these false ideas by putting them into practice. These
governments are totalatarian using their strength to keep their citizens
in bondage. They of course will fail and fall as those who have done
this in the past.
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
I think you should consult your game plan again. We all know
fundamentalists desire a theocracy where the cruel and arbitrary laws and
anti-humanist government system of the Bible would be the law of the land
and human beings would be denied the exercise of the basic rights they all
inherently possess, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to *say* that.
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to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
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| User: "firersa.com" |
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31 Aug 2003 12:18:13 PM |
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"Adam Marczyk" <see@sig.com> wrote in message
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IknowHimDoYou <IknowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IknowHim-3008030855060001@pm1-12.kalama.com...
Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people.
That may be your "hope," but until you actually learn something about the
ideas you oppose, rather than relying on creationist propaganda that is
ill-informed at best and deliberately deceptive at worst, you are not
likely to make any progress toward that objective. It would also doubtless
help if you actually stuck around to defend your ideas in real debate,
rather than these hit-and-run postings that strongly imply you are unable
to do so.
The
false ideas of accidential and chance chemical evolution has brought
much
suffering into this world. Each time it is embraced by people it has
lead to a diminishing of civilization(nazi death camps,
Excuse me, but Nazism was not inspired by evolution. Hitler made public
speeches in which he explicitly stated that the Bible and Christianity
inspired his anti-Semitism (comparing himself to Jesus driving the Jewish
money-changers out of the temple). His Wehrmacht wore belt buckles that
said (in German) "God With Us".
communist gulags,
I have seen no evidence that communism was inspired by evolution. In fact,
the Soviet Union explicitly rejected Darwinian ideas in favor of the
strange biology of a crackpot named Trofim Lysenko, because Lysenko's odd
beliefs were held to be more consonant with dialectical materialism.
Lysenkoism was, of course, a disaster, and Russian biological science lags
behind the West to this day because of it.
bounty hunting aboriginals for european museums, etc.).
The European slave trade, imperialism, and systematic extermination of
native peoples was going on *long* before Darwin (and, again, justified by
explicit claims to the Bible; the "curse of Ham" this time), so I don't
think you have a leg to stand on here.
The diminishing
of the value of human life
I see no evidence that society places a lesser value on human life than it
once did. If anything, the fact that Western societies now recognize the
equality of all humans (which they did not always do, and this idea came
from Christianity, as I have shown) shows that our recognition of the
value
of human life is only increasing.
++++++++A question of fact hinges on evidence, I would be interested in your
evidential sources for showing that Western Societies now recognize the
equality of all humans.
is a hallmark of a downward movement in
civilzation and that is a fact we are now witnessing with abortion,
As scholars have noted, the Old Testament of the Bible says nothing about
abortion. This fact can have only one of two meanings:
(1) No Hebrew woman ever, at any time, terminated an unwanted pregnancy or
had the idea to do so; or
(2) Abortion in Biblical times was considered the private business of the
woman.
++++++++Your conclusion that a lack of direct reference to abortion can only
have two meanings is interesting. How did you ascertain the permutational
limits of only 2 variables.
Historical Writers have clearly enunciated the prohibition of abortion,
viewed as murder, amongst first century christians, hence option 2 is
eliminated.
On your first point, we have no evidence to support either way. My opinion
is that it is improbable that no hebrew woman ever did or even had the idea
, as Birth Control by Abortion was popular in both Ancient Athens and the
Roman Empire and so it is unlikely that it was at least not considered, in
addition being a forbidden practice amongst early Christians it must
certainly have at least been considered .
The debate about abortion involves the primary argument of the "right to
life" and the bible is pretty specific about the right to life. Hence to
overcome the biblical viewpoint the debate has had to explore and solve the
question of when life commences. Again the bible is pretty specific about
when the creator regards life to have commenced during pregnancy.
Which of the two do you consider more likely?
euthanasia,
Euthanasia is the merciful termination of a hopelessly ill person's
suffering. I see nothing wrong with it. Only a true fundamentalist would
deny a fellow human surcease from pain, therefore continuing his agony
longer than necessary, out of the misguided belief that only their
invisible, unevidenced deity has the right to make such a decision. When
God starts speaking his opinion clearly and unmistakably on euthanasia,
we'll listen. Until then, if he exists, he has obviously deeded the
decision to us.
embryo cell harvesting,
You see something objectionable about research that may eventually cure
victims of paralysis and inheritable diseases?
sexual promiscuity, adultry, divorce,
The fact that the Bible itself speaks against such things, I'd say, is
pretty good proof
++++++++How does the fact that the bible mentions these things relate to a
comparison of sin in bible times vs modern times and lead you to a
conclusion that there has been no increase in the prevalence thereof.
that they are not now worse than they once were. (In
fact, to hear the fundamentalists tell it, Sodom and Gomorrah were
destroyed for sexual sins. The fact that this is not happening any more
today proves that we are *improving*, if anything.)
++++++++It is interesting that you use the clearly erroneous statement
(Sexual sins don't happen anymore today) to ***prove*** that we are
improving.
family disintegration, meaningless ethics, and so on.
The false idea of survival of the fittest is only brutality
Interesting. You seem to think that an idea must be false if you find its
consequences objectionable. Do you apply this doctrine to other areas of
your life?
and America
was founded on caring for the weakest among us not the stongest.
I agree, and we should do that. Evolution describes what is, not what
should be; there is nothing morally wrong with recognizing evolution as
the
obvious truth
+++++++++++ Evolution is only truth to those who accept it as truth , namely
evolutonists. It is by no means fact, the statements and propositions of
evolution have not been shown to be true. There is a large percentage of
mankind that dispute the theory, therefore it would appear somewhat
uninformed to label evolution as an obvious truth.
it is while still believing it should be resisted, say, by
preserving the lives of people with disorders or injuries that would doom
them in the absence of civilized medical care.
Our Constitution was not written to protect the government(the
strongest)
but
the citizens from the excesses of the government. Other nations are now
suffering under these false ideas by putting them into practice. These
governments are totalatarian using their strength to keep their citizens
in bondage. They of course will fail and fall as those who have done
this in the past.
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to
totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
I think you should consult your game plan again. We all know
fundamentalists desire a theocracy where the cruel and arbitrary laws and
anti-humanist government system of the Bible would be the law of the land
and human beings would be denied the exercise of the basic rights they all
inherently possess, but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to *say* that.
--
"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: " Phar Lap" |
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31 Aug 2003 03:21:22 PM |
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In article <IknowHim-3008030855060001@pm1-12.kalama.com>,
IknowHim@leavingsoon.com (IknowHimDoYou) wrote:
We have a choice;
either we follow the line of anarchy which always leads to totalatarinism
or we choose to follow our Creator's direction through His Theocracy.
Otherwise known as Fascism
What a dope!!!!!!
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| User: "David Sienkiewicz" |
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| Title: Re: Destruction |
30 Aug 2003 11:45:29 PM |
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Ted Holden <medved@fcc.net> wrote in message news:<F7Wcne4K6qlY3MyiXTWJhQ@fcc.net>...
IknowHimDoYou wrote:
Destruction
The hope of these postings is to destroy false ideas and not people. The
false ideas of accidential and chance chemical evolution has brought much
suffering into this world. Each time it is embraced by people it has lead
to a diminishing of civilization(nazi death camps, communist gulags,
bounty hunting aboriginals for european museums, etc.).
The simplest and best statement of the problem I've ever heard was a remark
by Newt Gingrich,
Who is, of course, emminently qualified to address the subject, eh,
Ted?
who noted that the question of whether a man views his
fellow man as a fellow child of God or as a meat byproduct of random and
stochastic processes, simply has to affect human relations.
Let me suggest to you, Ted, that intellectual lightweights like you
and Gingrich almost certainly would tend to prefer these sorts of
sensationalistic statements. That YOU would find this to be a "best
statement of the problem" doesn't surprise me, given your hatred and
fear of science.
I don't see any logical way out of that.
Why should that concern anyone, Ted? You're not a logical person.
You can't even conduct the simplest research through the Google search
engine, nor can you represent it properly.
A person who accepts evolutionism
has no real basis for morality.
What is "evolutionism," Ted, as opposed to evolution?
I mean, he might behave in a reasonable
manner himself, but he has no really logical or coherent way to frame an
argument against the Jeffrey Dahmers of the world:
"If a person doesn't think that there is a God to be accountable to, then
what's the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within
acceptable ranges? That's how I thought anyway. I always believed the
theory of evolution as truth, that we all came from slime. When we died,
you know , that was it, there is nothing..."
Jeffrey Dahmer, noted Evolutionist
Ted, how does one become a "noted Evolutionist?" Is there a
certification procedure or something?
The fact is that this is more sensationalistic prattling on your part,
as well as an attempt at "guilt by association."
Can't you do better than this?
< snip website ad and self-indulgent .sig >
Ted, I'm still waiting to hear about Ginenthal's credentials, why we
don't find more submerged cities such as the ONE you pointed out,
assuming there was EVER a global flood, and why baleen whale embryos
show teeth during development, assuming that baleen whales did not
evolve from toothed ancestors. I'm also still waiting to hear about
Clark's "war crimes" and how modern cars don't pollute (implied was
"at all") if they are maintained properly.
These newsgroups are no longer a safe place for you, Ted. I told you
that.
Lie in the bed you made.
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