Religions > Bible > Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour?
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24 Aug 2006 03:04:59 PM |
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Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
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25 Aug 2006 12:31:47 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
Why Jesus must have been laughing to himself quite a bit in the fact that
his followers has absolutely no idea he was 'doin' at least one of his
faithful and devoted female followers -- all the while putting up a phony
facade that he was pure as the driven snow. Hah! If he didn't end up landing
in a pile of hay with Mary Magdalene or some other 'hottie' and didn't do
the 'wild thing' with them, he wasn't 'human'. C'mon. Thirty-three years old
and not even a *little* hanky-panky with a member of the opposite sex? Give
me a break. (On the other hand, it may have been a member of the same sex.
Who knows?) He sure stood up for an adulterous woman. I only wonder if
imaginary 'God' got a chuckle watching (perhaps non-historical) Jesus return
some of that 'devotion' he was getting from the ladies. 'Pure and innocent',
my *****.
Greywolf
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| User: "Nechesh" |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
25 Aug 2006 03:31:18 AM |
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Greywolf wrote:
Why Jesus must have been laughing to himself quite a bit in the fact that
his followers has absolutely no idea he was 'doin' at least one of his
faithful and devoted female followers -- all the while putting up a phony
facade that he was pure as the driven snow. Hah! If he didn't end up landing
in a pile of hay with Mary Magdalene or some other 'hottie' and didn't do
the 'wild thing' with them, he wasn't 'human'.
It says in the Bible that JC preached in the temple.
This means JC was a rabbi, as he would not have been allowed to preach
in the temple otherwise.
If he were a rabbi, it therefore means that he was a married man - as
it was not permitted to become a rabbi if one was unmarried.
By the time he started his ministry in his 30's, he would probably have
already celebrated at least his 10th anniversary, and have several
little Jesus n Marys running around the carpentry workshop.
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
28 Aug 2006 10:11:40 AM |
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After serious contemplation, on or about Friday 25 August 2006 4:31 am
Nechesh perhaps from wrote:
Greywolf wrote:
Why Jesus must have been laughing to himself quite a bit in the fact
that his followers has absolutely no idea he was 'doin' at least one
of his faithful and devoted female followers -- all the while putting
up a phony facade that he was pure as the driven snow. Hah! If he
didn't end up landing in a pile of hay with Mary Magdalene or some
other 'hottie' and didn't do the 'wild thing' with them, he wasn't
'human'.
It says in the Bible that JC preached in the temple.
This means JC was a rabbi, as he would not have been allowed to preach
in the temple otherwise.
If he were a rabbi, it therefore means that he was a married man - as
it was not permitted to become a rabbi if one was unmarried.
By the time he started his ministry in his 30's, he would probably
have already celebrated at least his 10th anniversary, and have
several little Jesus n Marys running around the carpentry workshop.
Of course he might not have been a workshop carpenter. His PR people
(the ones that wrote those glowing if inaccurate biographies) portray
him as totally knowledgeable about money and at ease with the wealthy.
The Greek word often translated as carpenter, 'tecton' is often
translated in Greek classics as Master Ship Builder, or General
Contractor (the ones that build cities) both of which imply status and
wealth. And the three gifts of the Magi were worth a king's ransom.
Gold, of course, we all know about. However few know that frankincense
and myrrh were worth more than gold..
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Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
27 Aug 2006 04:55:50 PM |
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On 25 Aug 2006 01:31:18 -0700, "Nechesh" <Nechesh@googlemail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
Greywolf wrote:
Why Jesus must have been laughing to himself quite a bit in the fact that
his followers has absolutely no idea he was 'doin' at least one of his
faithful and devoted female followers -- all the while putting up a phony
facade that he was pure as the driven snow. Hah! If he didn't end up landing
in a pile of hay with Mary Magdalene or some other 'hottie' and didn't do
the 'wild thing' with them, he wasn't 'human'.
It says in the Bible that JC preached in the temple.
It also says bats are birds and rabbits chew their cud.
This means JC was a rabbi, as he would not have been allowed to preach
in the temple otherwise.
He got a divine exemption.
If he were a rabbi, it therefore means that he was a married man - as
it was not permitted to become a rabbi if one was unmarried.
By the time he started his ministry in his 30's, he would probably have
already celebrated at least his 10th anniversary, and have several
little Jesus n Marys running around the carpentry workshop.
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
24 Aug 2006 04:46:09 PM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
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For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Can god tell a joke so funny that even he has to laugh?
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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24 Aug 2006 05:22:54 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:46:09 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:1a1se2liv7abm2ejv7787eaprshdkdkusu@4ax.com...
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Can god tell a joke so funny that even he has to laugh?
I'm sure wcb has an answer....!
--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
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| User: "Nechesh" |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
24 Aug 2006 04:39:19 PM |
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Surprise, and also something being out of place or in some way
incongruous. If something is as it should be, it will not be funny. God
is perfect. And perfection cannot be amusing. As the nature of God is
perfection, it also follows that He cannot be amused, as this would be
a disturbance in His nature - which can't happen.
Of course, this only applies to deities which are allegedly perfect -
namely the Xian and muslim gods. It is not true of the various pagan
gods who often have a very rich sense of humour.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
27 Aug 2006 04:50:56 PM |
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On 24 Aug 2006 14:39:19 -0700, "Nechesh" <Nechesh@googlemail.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
Surprise, and also something being out of place or in some way
incongruous. If something is as it should be, it will not be funny. God
is perfect.
Perfect ***** fictional type.
[]
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "thomas p." |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
26 Aug 2006 03:42:57 AM |
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Therion Ware skrev:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
As somebody else pointed out, he cannot be surprised; therefore nothing
can be funny to him. For the very same reason (his perfection) it is
impossible for him to do anything at all including thinking. Any
activity at all would imply that there was something that had been left
undone, i.e. would imply that he was not perfect. In short his
perfection cancels his existence.
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| User: "colp" |
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| Title: Re: Did Jesus have a sense of humour? Can God have a sense of humour? |
25 Aug 2006 04:01:50 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised.
He's not omniscient:
And they built the high places of Baal, which [are] in the valley of
the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass
through [the fire] unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither
came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause
Judah to sin.
Jeremiah 32:35
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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24 Aug 2006 04:18:12 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Does god have a sense of humor? Ever seen an okapi?
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Aug 2006 07:44:21 AM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
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Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Does god have a sense of humor? Ever seen an okapi?
What about the platypus? What the hell was going on there? ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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24 Aug 2006 06:40:45 PM |
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L. Raymond wrote:
Does god have a sense of humor? Ever seen an okapi?
Or a duckbilled platypus?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "Mike" |
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25 Aug 2006 04:21:08 AM |
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L. Raymond wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Does god have a sense of humor? Ever seen an okapi?
The duck-billed platypus also provides evidence that God can be a
genuine comedian when he feels like it.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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25 Aug 2006 07:46:03 AM |
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"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in message
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L. Raymond wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Does god have a sense of humor? Ever seen an okapi?
The duck-billed platypus also provides evidence that God can be a
genuine comedian when he feels like it.
Perhaps he wasn't feeling well when he came up with the naked mole rat ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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25 Aug 2006 07:54:53 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote in message
news:1156497667.942096.231480@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
L. Raymond wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Does god have a sense of humor? Ever seen an okapi?
The duck-billed platypus also provides evidence that God can be a
genuine comedian when he feels like it.
Perhaps he wasn't feeling well when he came up with the naked mole rat ;)
The golden mole, the Cowfish, and, purely for name, the Pink Fairy
Armadillo.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Carl" |
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25 Aug 2006 08:09:39 AM |
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Does Jesus have a sense of humour, consider this:
Picture the scene:
A group of ten or twelve "Tockerbox boys" have disenbarked from their
tanks long enough to don their white shawls and strap little black
Tockerboxes to their foreheads, they rock backwards and forwards
violently while babbling some ancient incantations addressed to their
own personal God from the worn books in their hands . They claim their
diety gave them the promised lands and also elected them to be the
chosen race. They pray for their gods help in destroying their
enemies.
Meanwhile not many miles away their enemies are in the heads down /
arse up position for the fifth and final prayer of the day. They are
also their gods (Allahs) chosen people and are promised by their
prophet many virgins and an afterlife of joy and everlasting pleasure
in exchange for death and their martyrdom for the cause of their
religion. After prayers they strap on their explosive belts and
venture out to meet the Tockerbox boys.
Brian Rix or the Monty Python writing team couldn't begin to match it!
(Not mine but brill...)
Well? ?
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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24 Aug 2006 05:29:01 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:18:12 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
Does god have a sense of humor? Ever seen an okapi?
Heh. Never ascribe to humour what can be explained by malice...!
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"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
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| User: "Grinder" |
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24 Aug 2006 06:19:28 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
For traditional conceptions of God, I would have thought not, in as
much as much if not all humour depends on an element of surprise, and
an omniscient being cannot by definition be surprised. And of course
has heard every punch-line that ever was, is or will be. Similarly,
Jesus if considered to be incarnate God, faces the same problem.
So, no I don't think so. What do you think? Are there any Biblical
precedents?
Your thoughts welcome!
I think it's pretty funny that Pat Robertson denies evolution all the
while having the face of a chimpanzee. I cannot say, though, if that
joke is of divine origin.
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