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Did John W. Lie Yet Again? Seems So, But Decide For Yourselves |
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman Catholics and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ. Oh, they are not Christian,
either. But I encourage everyone to read the series of posts here and
decide for themselves. This post was extracted from the thread "Again,
Paster Dave, Why?" which addressed yet another extreme fundamentalist lie.
These lunatic fringe, so-called "Christian" fundamentalists just keep these
lies coming don't they?
Now Mr John W., do you read what you post? Why do you tell such obvious and
silly lies? Clearly, the Roman Catholics and Mormons are listed above. Yet
your wrote, "There are certain basic fundamentals of Christianity, like that
Christ is God in flesh;. Essentially all the cults listed above reject the
deity of Christ." Do you really believe that Roman Catholics and Mormons
"deny the deity of Christ?" Or do you just not know what Catholics and
Mormons believe? Or are you just posting without reading your own words
again, i.e., one of your infamous "I did not intend to lie" lies? Or is it
just a vicious and slanderous and deliberate lie?
From: John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:02:09 -0500, David Jensen
<david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in
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You sure have listed some pagan religions under the banner
"Christian." Can't Roman Catholics tell a Christian from a pagan?
You certainly cannot.
Mormons are pagans, just like Roman Catholics. Unitarians believe in
God only, and so they deny the Trinity. Hardly Christian.
Not pagan.
If you are Baptist (my heritage), we trace our faith back to the 1st
Century New Testament and the church Christ founded.
Please provide evidence to support this claim.
...
If you are Christian Scientist,
you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to
Mrs.
Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
Another not Christian. Why do you include so many non-Christian cults?
To make you list longer?
She acknowledges Jesus Christ. Please show how she, or the Mormons are
not Christian.
Anyone who understands the above sects knows the afore mentioned
religions are not Christian. Don't waste my time. There are certain
basic fundamentals of Christianity, like that Christ is God in flesh;.
Essentially all the cults listed above reject the deity of Christ.
John W
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26 Jul 2003 12:08:32 PM |
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:24:27 GMT, "John Hennekes"
<johnhennekes@nc.rr.com> wrote:
I've called off future contact with John Weatherly as John Hennekes.
What John is failing to say is that he wrote me a BRB note, which I
rebuffed.
For
me, personally, enough is enough.
I've been saying that for 2 weeks now.
Others would have stopped sooner, but I
chose not to.
Do you Protestants and Catholics who argue with each
other have any idea how ridiculous you appear to
unbelievers, mockers, and scoffers such as myself?
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:08:32 GMT, "Charles P" <chuck@spammerssuck.com>
wrote:
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:24:27 GMT, "John Hennekes"
<johnhennekes@nc.rr.com> wrote:
I've called off future contact with John Weatherly as John Hennekes.
What John is failing to say is that he wrote me a BRB note, which I
rebuffed.
For
me, personally, enough is enough.
I've been saying that for 2 weeks now.
Others would have stopped sooner, but I
chose not to.
Do you Protestants and Catholics who argue with each
other have any idea how ridiculous you appear to
unbelievers, mockers, and scoffers such as myself?
I've been trying to get that point across for a month now.
John W
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29 Jul 2003 06:26:54 AM |
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:08:32 GMT, "Charles P" <chuck@spammerssuck.com>
wrote:
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:24:27 GMT, "John Hennekes"
<johnhennekes@nc.rr.com> wrote:
I've called off future contact with John Weatherly as John Hennekes.
What John is failing to say is that he wrote me a BRB note, which I
rebuffed.
For
me, personally, enough is enough.
I've been saying that for 2 weeks now.
Others would have stopped sooner, but I
chose not to.
Do you Protestants and Catholics who argue with each
other have any idea how ridiculous you appear to
unbelievers, mockers, and scoffers such as myself?
If you had come in to ask an honest, sincere, probing question, I'd be
concerned with your impressions of the verbal battling, Since you have
expressed NO interest, I couldn't care less.
John W
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| User: "Jim" |
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26 Jul 2003 10:01:24 AM |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman Catholics and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Sorry about that error. I typed it incorrectly. With the dyslexia
(which you stalkers can look back a few weeks and find my mention of),
I had to look at it several times to see my error.)
John W
Oh, they are not Christian,
either. But I encourage everyone to read the series of posts here and
decide for themselves. This post was extracted from the thread "Again,
Paster Dave, Why?" which addressed yet another extreme fundamentalist lie.
These lunatic fringe, so-called "Christian" fundamentalists just keep these
lies coming don't they?
Now Mr John W., do you read what you post? Why do you tell such obvious and
silly lies? Clearly, the Roman Catholics and Mormons are listed above. Yet
your wrote, "There are certain basic fundamentals of Christianity, like that
Christ is God in flesh;. Essentially all the cults listed above reject the
deity of Christ." Do you really believe that Roman Catholics and Mormons
"deny the deity of Christ?" Or do you just not know what Catholics and
Mormons believe? Or are you just posting without reading your own words
again, i.e., one of your infamous "I did not intend to lie" lies? Or is it
just a vicious and slanderous and deliberate lie?
From: John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com>
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:02:09 -0500, David Jensen
<david@dajensen-family.com> wrote:
In alt.talk.creationism, John W <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in
<n5kqhv84sj4o0ojhfo9c7dleucaemvim8f@4ax.com>:
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You sure have listed some pagan religions under the banner
"Christian." Can't Roman Catholics tell a Christian from a pagan?
You certainly cannot.
Mormons are pagans, just like Roman Catholics. Unitarians believe in
God only, and so they deny the Trinity. Hardly Christian.
Not pagan.
If you are Baptist (my heritage), we trace our faith back to the 1st
Century New Testament and the church Christ founded.
Please provide evidence to support this claim.
...
If you are Christian Scientist,
you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to
Mrs.
Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.
Another not Christian. Why do you include so many non-Christian cults?
To make you list longer?
She acknowledges Jesus Christ. Please show how she, or the Mormons are
not Christian.
Anyone who understands the above sects knows the afore mentioned
religions are not Christian. Don't waste my time. There are certain
basic fundamentals of Christianity, like that Christ is God in flesh;.
Essentially all the cults listed above reject the deity of Christ.
John W
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them gods.
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
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26 Jul 2003 01:21:02 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a succession of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe them in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
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26 Jul 2003 02:46:12 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it. They make such kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as to quote
sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names to Mary, none of
which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that it proves that Catholics
teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even though the evidence doesn't support
her.
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of
grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Probably a habit picked up from John W. who thinks it's funny. In google,
I've seen others regularly ask John if he's referring to one of Glady's
Knight's backup singers.
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a succession
of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe them in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Pity that they refuse to acknowledge that they don't really know much about
Catholicism.
It's an interesting thing I've noticed over the years. Catholics who leave
the Catholic Church and go to another Christian Church are frequently
hatefilled & angry - not exactly emotions that Christ encourages. But other
Christians who join the Catholic Church generally speak kindly about their
former church & it's teachings.
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| User: "Tiger" |
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26 Jul 2003 02:42:40 PM |
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"Christopher Robin" <anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote in
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'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as
to quote sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names
to Mary, none of which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that
it proves that Catholics teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even
though the evidence doesn't support her.
Point her to this: http://mariology.com/sections/devotion.html
--
Tiger
"Flowing water never stagnates."
- Chinese proverb
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates
quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in
Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any
Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them
gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it.
They make such kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
WHO are THEY??? I think YOU are fleeing into the woodwork when challenged..
'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as to
quote
sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names to Mary, none of
which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that it proves that Catholics
teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even though the evidence doesn't support
her.
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of
grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Probably a habit picked up from John W. who thinks it's funny. In google,
I've seen others regularly ask John if he's referring to one of Glady's
Knight's backup singers.
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a succession
of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe them in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Pity that they refuse to acknowledge that they don't really know much
about
Catholicism.
It's an interesting thing I've noticed over the years. Catholics who
leave
the Catholic Church and go to another Christian Church are frequently
hatefilled & angry - not exactly emotions that Christ encourages. But
other
Christians who join the Catholic Church generally speak kindly about their
former church & it's teachings.
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates
quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in
Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any
Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them
gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it.
They make such kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
WHO are THEY???
People like John W. Elaine... etc.
I think YOU are fleeing into the woodwork when challenged..
LOL - then why am I still responding to you? Why am I still responding and
refuting Elaine?
Come on galia. are you that blind to what is going on??? I challenged
Elaine about 3 times to post an actual teaching of the Catholic Church and
her reasoning (including documentation) for why it is a false teaching. She
wouldn't (or couldn't) do it.
I've been debating asking those who've died in Christ to pray for us with
you for the past several days.
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates
quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in
Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any
Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them
gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it. They make such kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as to
quote
sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names to Mary, none of
which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that it proves that Catholics
teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even though the evidence doesn't support
her.
Is "galia" this "Elaine" you refer to? It simply baffles me that the
fundamentalists believe they must make up lies about the Catholic Church.
There are, as I am sure you know, real problems in the Catholic Church today
that deserve debate. I understand the origin of many of these hatreds
because the wars of the Reformation were extraordinarily bitter and brutal
on both sides. But everywhere except Ulster and the USA, these wars are
pretty much in the past. Why insist upon a 17th century position? Do
these people (extreme fundamentalists) really believe the Holy Inquisition
is coming to put them on the rack because of their beliefs. Why do they
feel threatend by the 21st century Catholic Church?
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of
grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Probably a habit picked up from John W. who thinks it's funny. In google,
I've seen others regularly ask John if he's referring to one of Glady's
Knight's backup singers.
I like that. About Gladys Knight's back up group.
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a succession
of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe them in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Pity that they refuse to acknowledge that they don't really know much
about
Catholicism.
Ignorance is rather blissfull, isn't it?
It's an interesting thing I've noticed over the years. Catholics who
leave
the Catholic Church and go to another Christian Church are frequently
hatefilled & angry - not exactly emotions that Christ encourages. But
other
Christians who join the Catholic Church generally speak kindly about their
former church & it's teachings.
That is an interesting observation.
.
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27 Jul 2003 07:27:14 AM |
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"Didymos" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates
quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in
Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any
Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them
gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it. They make such kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as to
quote
sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names to Mary, none
of
which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that it proves that Catholics
teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even though the evidence doesn't support
her.
Is "galia" this "Elaine" you refer to?
Nope "Elaine" currently is using a cross as her symbol [but it doesn't
always come through on all newsreaders], [nospam@noway.period
<nospam@noway.period>] is her current anti-spam e-mail address, if you
wanted to search.
Go to the 'Spread the WORD' thread - she's all over in there. [it's only in
the Baptist newsgroup].
It simply baffles me that the
fundamentalists believe they must make up lies about the Catholic Church.
And that they don't need to document the lies with proof.
There are, as I am sure you know, real problems in the Catholic Church
today
that deserve debate.
Absolutely. I enjoy intelligent discussion regarding the different views of
faith...
I understand the origin of many of these hatreds
because the wars of the Reformation were extraordinarily bitter and brutal
on both sides.
Yep, but according to many of the Fundamentalists. They were all innocent
and the Catholics were the bitter & brutal ones.
But everywhere except Ulster and the USA, these wars are
pretty much in the past. Why insist upon a 17th century position? Do
these people (extreme fundamentalists) really believe the Holy Inquisition
is coming to put them on the rack because of their beliefs. Why do they
feel threatend by the 21st century Catholic Church?
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of
grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Probably a habit picked up from John W. who thinks it's funny. In
google,
I've seen others regularly ask John if he's referring to one of Glady's
Knight's backup singers.
I like that. About Gladys Knight's back up group.
:-)
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God
in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a
succession
of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe them
in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Pity that they refuse to acknowledge that they don't really know much
about
Catholicism.
Ignorance is rather blissfull, isn't it?
But some of them seem VERY ignorant, but not very blissful.
It's an interesting thing I've noticed over the years. Catholics who
leave
the Catholic Church and go to another Christian Church are frequently
hatefilled & angry - not exactly emotions that Christ encourages. But
other
Christians who join the Catholic Church generally speak kindly about
their
former church & it's teachings.
That is an interesting observation.
I've noticed lots over the years.
.
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates
quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W.
asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in
Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list
of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any
Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them
gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it. They make such
kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as to
quote
sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names to Mary,
none
of
which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that it proves that
Catholics
teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even though the evidence doesn't
support
her.
Is "galia" this "Elaine" you refer to?
Nope "Elaine" currently is using a cross as her symbol [but it doesn't
always come through on all newsreaders], [nospam@noway.period
<nospam@noway.period>] is her current anti-spam e-mail address, if you
wanted to search.
Go to the 'Spread the WORD' thread - she's all over in there. [it's only
in
the Baptist newsgroup].
It simply baffles me that the
fundamentalists believe they must make up lies about the Catholic
Church.
And that they don't need to document the lies with proof.
There are, as I am sure you know, real problems in the Catholic Church
today
that deserve debate.
Absolutely. I enjoy intelligent discussion regarding the different views
of
faith...
I began posting in January seeking just that. I was naive and silly when I
believed such a thing was possible with those who arrarently the chief
spokepeople hereabouts for the fundamentalist movement. I am not exactly
sure what end is served by addressing someone as an adherent of the "*****
of Babylon."
I understand the origin of many of these hatreds
because the wars of the Reformation were extraordinarily bitter and
brutal
on both sides.
Yep, but according to many of the Fundamentalists. They were all innocent
and the Catholics were the bitter & brutal ones.
But everywhere except Ulster and the USA, these wars are
pretty much in the past. Why insist upon a 17th century position? Do
these people (extreme fundamentalists) really believe the Holy
Inquisition
is coming to put them on the rack because of their beliefs. Why do they
feel threatend by the 21st century Catholic Church?
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her
to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic
succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of
grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Probably a habit picked up from John W. who thinks it's funny. In
google,
I've seen others regularly ask John if he's referring to one of
Glady's
Knight's backup singers.
I like that. About Gladys Knight's back up group.
:-)
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ,
God
in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a
succession
of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe
them
in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Pity that they refuse to acknowledge that they don't really know much
about
Catholicism.
Ignorance is rather blissfull, isn't it?
But some of them seem VERY ignorant, but not very blissful.
I try . . .
It's an interesting thing I've noticed over the years. Catholics who
leave
the Catholic Church and go to another Christian Church are frequently
hatefilled & angry - not exactly emotions that Christ encourages. But
other
Christians who join the Catholic Church generally speak kindly about
their
former church & it's teachings.
That is an interesting observation.
I've noticed lots over the years.
.
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in article B3CUa.23151$Mc.1768720@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net, Didymos
at wrote on 7/26/03 5:06 PM:
"Christopher Robin" <anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Didymos" < > wrote in message
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"Jim" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" < > wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates
quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in
Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any
Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them
gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it. They make such kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as to
quote
sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names to Mary, none of
which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that it proves that Catholics
teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even though the evidence doesn't support
her.
Is "galia" this "Elaine" you refer to? It simply baffles me that the
fundamentalists believe they must make up lies about the Catholic Church.
There are, as I am sure you know, real problems in the Catholic Church today
that deserve debate. I understand the origin of many of these hatreds
because the wars of the Reformation were extraordinarily bitter and brutal
on both sides. But everywhere except Ulster and the USA, these wars are
pretty much in the past. Why insist upon a 17th century position? Do
these people (extreme fundamentalists) really believe the Holy Inquisition
is coming to put them on the rack because of their beliefs. Why do they
feel threatend by the 21st century Catholic Church?
They believe that the Pope is (or will be) the AntiChrist of Revelation, and
that the Catholic Church in general is full of hate against "real
Christians".
This is a holdover of the politicization of the doctrinal differences
between Catholics and Protestants in the 1600s.
What they do not realize is that they have become as rabid against doctrinal
heresy (teachings in opposition to their own position) as they perceive
those Inquisitors to have been. And if they were given the power of
government, they would not hesitate to begin their own trials,
imprisonments, and tortures of their perceived enemies. Think about it. John
Ashcroft has done more than any other person to try to curtail civil
liberties in the United States. He is a fundamentalist. He is scary. It took
a lot of work to stop his plans to electronically spy on every person in the
US.
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of
grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Probably a habit picked up from John W. who thinks it's funny. In google,
I've seen others regularly ask John if he's referring to one of Glady's
Knight's backup singers.
I like that. About Gladys Knight's back up group.
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a succession
of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe them in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Pity that they refuse to acknowledge that they don't really know much
about
Catholicism.
Ignorance is rather blissfull, isn't it?
It's an interesting thing I've noticed over the years. Catholics who
leave
the Catholic Church and go to another Christian Church are frequently
hatefilled & angry - not exactly emotions that Christ encourages. But
other
Christians who join the Catholic Church generally speak kindly about their
former church & it's teachings.
That is an interesting observation.
Fundamentalism is very much full of anger and fear and hate. It is so
epidemic in the movement that the people do not even notice it.
.
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27 Jul 2003 04:48:50 PM |
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Didymos
at wrote on 7/26/03 5:06 PM:
"Christopher Robin" <anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Didymos" < > wrote in message
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"Jim" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:41:04 GMT, "Didymos" < > wrote:
A casual read of the following post by Mr John W. demonstrates
quite
conclusively that he has again posted a lie. Mr John W. asserts
quite
boldly and in straightforward, unequivocal language that Roman
Catholics
and
Mormons do not believe in the deity of Christ.
I just noticed this and noted, dyslexia strikes again. I did not
intend to say or suggest that Roman Catholics do not believe in
Christ
as deity. They do; a lesser deity.
Nope. CHrist is part of the Trinity. The ONE GOD.
Howver they do place Mary and Peter above Christ in their list of
gods.
What list of gods. Please provide the list of 'gods' from any
Catholic
source. Be sure to point out where the Catholic source calls them
gods.
That cannot be proven becasue it does not exist. Just another
fundamentalist kook lie.
I know... but I love tweaking their nose with it. They make such kooky
statements and flee into the woodwork when challenged to provide any
documentation that states what they claim.
'Elaine' (a cross is her current posting name) even goes so far as to
quote
sections of the Catechism that do give a variety of names to Mary, none
of
which are 'goddess' and then she concludes that it proves that
Catholics
teach that Mary is a 'goddess', even though the evidence doesn't
support
her.
Is "galia" this "Elaine" you refer to? It simply baffles me that the
fundamentalists believe they must make up lies about the Catholic
Church.
There are, as I am sure you know, real problems in the Catholic Church
today
that deserve debate. I understand the origin of many of these hatreds
because the wars of the Reformation were extraordinarily bitter and
brutal
on both sides. But everywhere except Ulster and the USA, these wars are
pretty much in the past. Why insist upon a 17th century position? Do
these people (extreme fundamentalists) really believe the Holy
Inquisition
is coming to put them on the rack because of their beliefs. Why do they
feel threatend by the 21st century Catholic Church?
They believe that the Pope is (or will be) the AntiChrist of Revelation,
and
that the Catholic Church in general is full of hate against "real
Christians".
How can one respond to such silliness? John Paul II is the Antichrist?
What kind of fool can take that seriously?This LovJesus character who keeps
posting that drivel under the tread named "666=Nero Caesar*FP=Pope John
Paul? has this all so carefully worked out with his sillyass numerology
identifying John Paul II as the AntiChrist based on some silly numberology
that must have taken him many, many hours to concoct. The problem is that
this idiot assigns numerological values to letters that did not, do not, and
never will exist in the Latin alphabet. Not to mention his "history" makes
fractured fairy tales appear true oin comparison. How does one deal with
such profound ignorance? It seems to me that any so uneducated as to
believe in that bilious nonsense is beyond salvation.
This is a holdover of the politicization of the doctrinal differences
between Catholics and Protestants in the 1600s.
I know. There are real problems in the world screaming for just solutions.
Endlessly rehashing the past is not productive. I cannot recall where I
read this, but there is a truism that goes something like this: "In Ulster
there is no present, there is no future, just the past happening over and
over again." (My abject apologies to the author. If I could recall the
name, I would gladly give the citation. Leon Uris, "Ireland: A Terrible
Beauty" perhaps.) I think this very much summarizes the extreme
fundametnalist position. Only substitute, "In the extreme fundamentalist
world view, there is no present, there is no future, just the 16th and 17th
centuries repeating themselves endlessly."
What they do not realize is that they have become as rabid against
doctrinal
heresy (teachings in opposition to their own position) as they perceive
those Inquisitors to have been. And if they were given the power of
government, they would not hesitate to begin their own trials,
imprisonments, and tortures of their perceived enemies. Think about it.
John
Ashcroft has done more than any other person to try to curtail civil
liberties in the United States. He is a fundamentalist. He is scary. It
took
a lot of work to stop his plans to electronically spy on every person in
the
US.
That is an interesting point you raise, and I believe it is true. The
present extreme fundamentalists are just as rabid in their insistence upon
their narrow interpretation of dogma as the most bloodthirsty Catholic
inquisitor. Mr Ashcroft is a radical and extremist in every sense of the
word. Have you ever looked at the web pages of the church he is a minister
of? It is chilling to know that a man who believes in those precepts is the
Chief Law Engorcement Officer in the government of the United States. But
then we survived John Mitchell, so there is hope. Can you imagine the
suffering the extreme fundamentalists would cause if they controlled the
police and judicial powers of the United States? Or any state?
That is still not allowed, and it is heresy.
And it is also untrue.
Why do I say that they place Mary above Jesus? They pray to her to
cajole or "pull rank on" Jesus.
Do you ask others to pray for you? We do the same.
They also consider the writings of the pips (apostolic succession)
more important than the Bible, or the word of God/Son of God.
Nope... the Bible is the biggest.
I wonder what writing of the popes this refers to? And what kind of
grossly
stupid misspelling of of pope is "pip'?
Probably a habit picked up from John W. who thinks it's funny. In
google,
I've seen others regularly ask John if he's referring to one of Glady's
Knight's backup singers.
I like that. About Gladys Knight's back up group.
Thus they elevate Peter to a status superior to Jesus Christ, God in
flesh.
Nope. We elevate no one higher than Jesus. Why do you lie so?
It seems to be ingrained in the lunatic fringe so-called "Christian"
fundamentalist character. Much of their faith is found in a
succession
of
lies. The tragic aspect of the whole thing is that they believe them
in
spit of the mountain of evidence to the contrary.
Pity that they refuse to acknowledge that they don't really know much
about
Catholicism.
Ignorance is rather blissfull, isn't it?
It's an interesting thing I've noticed over the years. Catholics who
leave
the Catholic Church and go to another Christian Church are frequently
hatefilled & angry - not exactly emotions that Christ encourages. But
other
Christians who join the Catholic Church generally speak kindly about
their
former church & it's teachings.
That is an interesting observation.
Fundamentalism is very much full of anger and fear and hate. It is so
epidemic in the movement that the people do not even notice it.
I have noticed the truth of your statement. Have you ever read Max Weber on
Protestantism?
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Fundamentalism is very much full of anger and fear and hate. It is
so
epidemic in the movement that the people do not even notice it.
hahahah! Sure, sure!!!!!!!!! hhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:31:33 -0400, "Tom" <mmman_90@yahoo.com> wrote:
"?" <nospam@noway.period> wrote in message
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Fundamentalism is very much full of anger and fear and hate. It is
so
epidemic in the movement that the people do not even notice it.
hahahah! Sure, sure!!!!!!!!! hhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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JESUS is the ROCK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Tom: I thought for a second that you said that Jesus was a rock and I was
going to agree with you. I had a pet rock once that had all of the powers of
"god" and Jeebus, I could pray to it and talk to it and it was a great
comfort in troubling times. It even wrote a "holy book" (well, actually I
had to write for it) just like "god" did. Does anyone here see the parallel
between my pet rock and "god". The crucial similarity is that neither of
them can do one damn thing without the intervention of man, not the first
thing.
Why do you continue to post your feces in the baptist group?
John W
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in article j6baivc7fj36iodrl0tpee43torc94ujph@1docnet, † at
nospam@noway.period wrote on 7/28/03 10:02 AM:
Fundamentalism is very much full of anger and fear and hate. It is
so
epidemic in the movement that the people do not even notice it.
hahahah! Sure, sure!!!!!!!!! hhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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JESUS is the ROCK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Well, I stand by what I said. You might find it funny, but I note that you
did not refute it with any substance.
If you were to take a sampling of the posts in this ng, you would find that
the angriest of the posts are from fundamentalists. You would find that
those who are most resistive to explanations other than they are used to are
the fundamentalists. You will rarely find fundamentalists commending anyone
for thinking for themselves. Rather, if you do not conform to their dogma,
the fundamentalists declare you to be going to hell.
Interesting, I think.
And all you do is laugh?
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30 Jul 2003 04:57:15 AM |
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"?" <nospam@noway.period> wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:56:03 -0400, "Raymond E. Griffith"
<tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net> spake thusly in these here little old news
'froups:
Well, I stand by what I said. You might find it funny, but I note
that you
did not refute it with any substance.
If you were to take a sampling of the posts in this ng, you would
find that
the angriest of the posts are from fundamentalists. You would find
that
those who are most resistive to explanations other than they are used
to are
the fundamentalists. You will rarely find fundamentalists commending
anyone
for thinking for themselves. Rather, if you do not conform to their
dogma,
the fundamentalists declare you to be going to hell.
Interesting, I think.
And all you do is laugh?
At this point, YES. It appears to me that there are certain
individuals here who want nothing BUT arguments, so they invent
whatever lies they can to acheive that sad end.
Clearly Elaine was looking in the mirror as she wrote this. Except for one
thing... she just keeps repeating the same old lies about the Cathoilc
Church. Even though she's been thoroughly refuted time and time again.
Even though she can't provide documentation that actually proves her claim.
She has, rarely, provided some texts, but in the end those texts don't
support her conclusions...
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02 Aug 2003 02:33:21 PM |
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:57:15 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:
"?" <nospam@noway.period> wrote in message
news:m0ceivs716b0m43v99squgfl57449fu3p7@1docnet...
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:56:03 -0400, "Raymond E. Griffith"
<tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net> spake thusly in these here little old news
'froups:
Well, I stand by what I said. You might find it funny, but I note
that you
did not refute it with any substance.
If you were to take a sampling of the posts in this ng, you would
find that
the angriest of the posts are from fundamentalists. You would find
that
those who are most resistive to explanations other than they are used
to are
the fundamentalists. You will rarely find fundamentalists commending
anyone
for thinking for themselves. Rather, if you do not conform to their
dogma,
the fundamentalists declare you to be going to hell.
Interesting, I think.
And all you do is laugh?
At this point, YES. It appears to me that there are certain
individuals here who want nothing BUT arguments, so they invent
whatever lies they can to acheive that sad end.
Clearly Elaine was looking in the mirror as she wrote this. Except for
one
thing... she just keeps repeating the same old lies about the Cathoilc
Church. Even though she's been thoroughly refuted time and time again.
Even though she can't provide documentation that actually proves her
claim.
She has, rarely, provided some texts, but in the end those texts don't
support her conclusions...
The Bible is ALL the documentation Christians need to prove the
heresies of Rome.
John w
Ah, actually no, you also need an authoritative source of Catholic belief
and practice to compare the Bible to.
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:57:15 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:
"?" <nospam@noway.period> wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:56:03 -0400, "Raymond E. Griffith"
<tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net> spake thusly in these here little old news
'froups:
Well, I stand by what I said. You might find it funny, but I note
that you
did not refute it with any substance.
If you were to take a sampling of the posts in this ng, you would
find that
the angriest of the posts are from fundamentalists. You would find
that
those who are most resistive to explanations other than they are
used
to are
the fundamentalists. You will rarely find fundamentalists commending
anyone
for thinking for themselves. Rather, if you do not conform to their
dogma,
the fundamentalists declare you to be going to hell.
Interesting, I think.
And all you do is laugh?
At this point, YES. It appears to me that there are certain
individuals here who want nothing BUT arguments, so they invent
whatever lies they can to acheive that sad end.
Clearly Elaine was looking in the mirror as she wrote this. Except for
one
thing... she just keeps repeating the same old lies about the Cathoilc
Church. Even though she's been thoroughly refuted time and time again.
Even though she can't provide documentation that actually proves her
claim.
She has, rarely, provided some texts, but in the end those texts don't
support her conclusions...
The Bible is ALL the documentation Christians need to prove the
heresies of Rome.
John w
Ah, actually no, you also need an authoritative source of Catholic belief
and practice to compare the Bible to.
Actually yes, because ANY authoritative source of catholic belief and
practice would just clash with the teachings of Christ again.
galia
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"galia" <galia@netrover.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:57:15 GMT, "Christopher Robin"
<anonyngaddr@hotmail.com> wrote:
"?" <nospam@noway.period> wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:56:03 -0400, "Raymond E. Griffith"
<tiffirgrReverse@ctc.net> spake thusly in these here little old
news
'froups:
Well, I stand by what I said. You might find it funny, but I note
that you
did not refute it with any substance.
If you were to take a sampling of the posts in this ng, you would
find that
the angriest of the posts are from fundamentalists. You would find
that
those who are most resistive to explanations other than they are
used
to are
the fundamentalists. You will rarely find fundamentalists
commending
anyone
for thinking for themselves. Rather, if you do not conform to
their
dogma,
the fundamentalists declare you to be going to hell.
Interesting, I think.
And all you do is laugh?
At this point, YES. It appears to me that there are certain
individuals here who want nothing BUT arguments, so they invent
whatever lies they can to acheive that sad end.
Clearly Elaine was looking in the mirror as she wrote this. Except
for
one
thing... she just keeps repeating the same old lies about the
Cathoilc
Church. Even though she's been thoroughly refuted time and time
again.
Even though she can't provide documentation that actually proves her
claim.
She has, rarely, provided some texts, but in the end those texts
don't
support her conclusions...
The Bible is ALL the documentation Christians need to prove the
heresies of Rome.
John w
Ah, actually no, you also need an authoritative source of Catholic
belief
and practice to compare the Bible to.
Actually yes, because ANY authoritative source of catholic belief and
practice would just clash with the teachings of Christ again.
galia
And you, too, would have to provide documented proof Galia. that'd be
specific teachings, where they are found, and what they contradict.
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02 Aug 2003 03:56:48 PM |
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