Religions > Bible > Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place?
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01 Oct 2007 06:43:41 PM |
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Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
as the Acts of the Apostles wants to make us believe?
If so, why did Paul ignore its rulings?
How did that ruling find its way into the Arabian Islam?
-I am sure most so-called experts are not aware of this-
Are not the Sola Scriptura crowd picking and choosing?
The New Testament is no word of God. get over it
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
02 Oct 2007 11:18:18 AM |
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Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
as the Acts of the Apostles wants to make us believe?
If so, why did Paul ignore its rulings?
How did that ruling find its way into the Arabian Islam?
-I am sure most so-called experts are not aware of this-
Are not the Sola Scriptura crowd picking and choosing?
The New Testament is no word of God. get over it
===>There was no such "Council".
The book of ACTS was invented to reconcile the conflict
between the Petrine ("St. Peter") sect and the Pauline
("St. Paul") sect of Christinaity.
The Petrine sect apparently wanted closer ties to Judaism,
seeking a modicum of historical authenticity and
opposing Paulinism which was adopted e.g. by Bishop Marcion
who rejected the "God of the Jews" and anything having to
do with Judaism. Marcion produced the first "Bible" containing
one Gospel that eventually was redacted into the "Gospel
according to Luke", and some of the original Pauline essays
written in the form of letters ("epistles").
The "Theos"("GOD") of the New Testament is differentiated from
the deity generally seen as the deity of the Hebrew scriptures
("Old Testament"). In the Pauline documents the Jewish ADONAI
("Lord") is replaced with CHRISTOS, who is seen as the son of
a higher "Father" god, referred to as "THEOS" (a form of ZEUS).
BTW, there is no soch thing as the "Word of God", it is all
the work of men, expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations
and fantasies, produced primarily for propaganda purposes,
and selected, edited and compiled into the "Sacred Books"
(Hagia Biblia - i.e. the Catholic "Bible) by Church authorities. -- L.
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| User: "Codebreaker" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 02:32:00 PM |
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On Oct 2, 12:18 pm, Libertarius <Libertar...@nothingbutthe.truth>
wrote:
Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
as the Acts of the Apostles wants to make us believe?
If so, why did Paul ignore its rulings?
How did that ruling find its way into the Arabian Islam?
-I am sure most so-called experts are not aware of this-
Are not the Sola Scriptura crowd picking and choosing?
The New Testament is no word of God. get over it
===>There was no such "Council".
The book of ACTS was invented to reconcile the conflict
between the Petrine ("St. Peter") sect and the Pauline
("St. Paul") sect of Christinaity.
If you had said James instead of Peter
I would know that you have any clue.
There never was a conflict between
Peter and Paul. Peter was sent as
an APOSTLE to the circumcised
that is to say those under the Law
of Moses or Torah. Paul was sent to the
Gentiles, those who knew nothing about
Moses Law and live a life of uncleaness.
Differnt field, different course action
different theology, different doctrines and ritual
YOU STILL HAVE PROBLEM WITH
WHAT IS MEANT BY MOSES LAW
and its role in the Jewish Society as opposed
to Gentile Society. get an education so that
you may spread around less PLATITUDE.
YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A SON OF *****
The Petrine sect apparently wanted closer ties to Judaism,
seeking a modicum of historical authenticity and
opposing Paulinism which was adopted e.g. by Bishop Marcion
who rejected the "God of the Jews" and anything having to
do with Judaism. Marcion produced the first "Bible" containing
one Gospel that eventually was redacted into the "Gospel
according to Luke", and some of the original Pauline essays
written in the form of letters ("epistles").
The "Theos"("GOD") of the New Testament is differentiated from
the deity generally seen as the deity of the Hebrew scriptures
("Old Testament"). In the Pauline documents the Jewish ADONAI
("Lord") is replaced with CHRISTOS, who is seen as the son of
a higher "Father" god, referred to as "THEOS" (a form of ZEUS).
BTW, there is no soch thing as the "Word of God", it is all
the work of men, expressing their own ideas, opinions, speculations
and fantasies, produced primarily for propaganda purposes,
and selected, edited and compiled into the "Sacred Books"
(Hagia Biblia - i.e. the Catholic "Bible) by Church authorities. -- L.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 05:05:26 PM |
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Codebreaker wrote:
On Oct 2, 12:18 pm, Libertarius <Libertar...@nothingbutthe.truth>
wrote:
Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
as the Acts of the Apostles wants to make us believe?
If so, why did Paul ignore its rulings?
How did that ruling find its way into the Arabian Islam?
-I am sure most so-called experts are not aware of this-
Are not the Sola Scriptura crowd picking and choosing?
The New Testament is no word of God. get over it
===>There was no such "Council".
The book of ACTS was invented to reconcile the conflict
between the Petrine ("St. Peter") sect and the Pauline
("St. Paul") sect of Christinaity.
If you had said James instead of Peter
I would know that you have any clue.
There never was a conflict between
Peter and Paul.
===>FALSE and IGNORANT.
The Pauline essays ("epistles") clearly refer to
the conflict between "Paul" and "Peter", but NEVER
to any conflict between "Paul" and "James"!
Get an education. At least read the stuff
in your Bible! As phony as much of it is, at least
you would not make such asinine statements!
The Roman Church adopted "Peter" as its very founder!
You are just repeating Church propaganda.
As I wrote, the book of ACTS was invented to reconcile the conflict
between the Petrine ("St. Peter") sect and the Pauline
("St. Paul") sect of Christinaity. -- L.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
02 Oct 2007 01:19:21 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
No
There were never any "apostles", you brainwashed blockhead.
Now shut up, and get your psych nurse to tighten those straps.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
02 Oct 2007 08:21:04 PM |
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
Who cares?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 02:43:27 AM |
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:21:04 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
Who cares?
Delusional maniacs who base their lives and their worth on a mass of
lies, that's who.
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 03:45:37 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:21:04 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
Who cares?
Delusional maniacs who base their lives and their worth on a mass of
lies, that's who.
And don't forget us nuts who have an interest in ancient fairy tales.
Besides, who knows what might come in handy for Trivial Pursuit? And it is
fun showing True Believers how ignorant they are of their own religion.
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 05:12:06 PM |
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Darrell Stec wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:21:04 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
Who cares?
Delusional maniacs who base their lives and their worth on a mass of
lies, that's who.
And don't forget us nuts who have an interest in ancient fairy tales.
Besides, who knows what might come in handy for Trivial Pursuit? And it is
fun showing True Believers how ignorant they are of their own religion.
===>Hi Darrell,
Indeed you are so right.
I just put "Codebraker" in his place by pointing out
how asinine his comment was when he wrote:
"If you had said James instead of Peter
I would know that you have any clue.
There never was a conflict between
Peter and Paul."
He would flunk Trivial Pursuit for sure.
Tese fundies don't even know what is in their own
"Holy Bible". If it was really the word of any god
as they claim, that god would be rightly pissed
at them. ;-) -- L.
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| User: "Darrell Stec" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 06:39:01 PM |
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Libertarius wrote:
Darrell Stec wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:21:04 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
Who cares?
Delusional maniacs who base their lives and their worth on a mass of
lies, that's who.
And don't forget us nuts who have an interest in ancient fairy tales.
Besides, who knows what might come in handy for Trivial Pursuit? And it
is fun showing True Believers how ignorant they are of their own
religion.
===>Hi Darrell,
Indeed you are so right.
I just put "Codebraker" in his place by pointing out
how asinine his comment was when he wrote:
"If you had said James instead of Peter
I would know that you have any clue.
There never was a conflict between
Peter and Paul."
He would flunk Trivial Pursuit for sure.
Tese fundies don't even know what is in their own
"Holy Bible". If it was really the word of any god
as they claim, that god would be rightly pissed
at them. ;-) -- L.
I'm not so sure you put Codebreaker in his place. Like all Fundies, he is a
legend in his own mind. In that vast abyss and labyrinth of his mind, he
won the argument.
--
Later,
Darrell Stec
Webpage Sorcery
http://webpagesorcery.com
We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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| User: "Codebreaker" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 02:34:23 PM |
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On Oct 3, 3:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:21:04 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
Who cares?
Delusional maniacs who base their lives and their worth on a mass of
lies, that's who.
There was no lie. It is just an internal matter
and a power strugle. Of course you missed that.
YOU ARE A *****
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
04 Oct 2007 06:39:58 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:34:23 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
On Oct 3, 3:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:21:04 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:43:41 -0700, Codebreaker wrote:
Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place
Who cares?
Delusional maniacs who base their lives and their worth on a mass of
lies, that's who.
There was no lie. It is just an internal matter and a power strugle. Of
course you missed that. YOU ARE A *****
Speaking of delusional maniacs...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
01 Oct 2007 07:00:52 PM |
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On Oct 1, 7:43 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
snip
You are less lucid with each post. Get help. Aren't you close to Grady
Hospital?
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Olrik" |
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01 Oct 2007 10:16:29 PM |
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On Oct 1, 8:00 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 7:43 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
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You are less lucid with each post. Get help. Aren't you close to Grady
Hospital?
Is that a mental ward of some sorts?
;-)
One thing amuses me, though : that "CB" thing cross-posts to a few
religious NGs, yet people from them seldom, if ever, respond to his
posts. Maybe we here in AA like kooks or we have a better sense of
humour.
Olrik
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Codebreaker" |
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03 Oct 2007 02:23:57 PM |
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On Oct 1, 11:16 pm, Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 1, 8:00 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 7:43 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
snip
You are less lucid with each post. Get help. Aren't you close to Grady
Hospital?
Is that a mental ward of some sorts?
;-)
One thing amuses me, though : that "CB" thing cross-posts to a few
religious NGs, yet people from them seldom, if ever, respond to his
posts. Maybe we here in AA like kooks or we have a better sense of
humour.
Olrik
Vou =EAtes seulement incultes
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
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| User: "" |
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02 Oct 2007 12:21:23 PM |
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On Oct 1, 11:16 pm, Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 1, 8:00 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 7:43 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
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You are less lucid with each post. Get help. Aren't you close to Grady
Hospital?
Is that a mental ward of some sorts?
It's the public hospital downtown here. It's going broke because it
doesn't refuse the homeless.
;-)
One thing amuses me, though : that "CB" thing cross-posts to a few
religious NGs, yet people from them seldom, if ever, respond to his
posts. Maybe we here in AA like kooks or we have a better sense of
humour.
Olrik
Heh, I always thought of our group as one that *raises* kooks. They
come in reasonably stable, and leave crazy after we're done with `em!
<g>
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Codebreaker" |
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| Title: Re: Did The Apostles' Council At Jerusalem Really Take Place? |
03 Oct 2007 02:22:54 PM |
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On Oct 1, 8:00 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 7:43 pm, Codebreaker <Codebrea...@bigsecret.com> wrote:
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You are less lucid with each post. Get help. Aren't you close to Grady
Hospital?
Well... We already know that you have no clue
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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